CALLING KINPA OUT!

[Etznab]

Have you already explained your motive and reasons for talking about assholes, shit, fire ants and all the rest? For making up lies about my membership card, etc.? You said it was none of my business? I told you it is my business and I will continue to ask about why you have done it; just like I keep asking about the copying and plagiarisms, wanting to talk about it here and explore it.

Over a year now and your contributions to a.r.e. have left quite a legacy in spite of the dozens and dozens of deleted Kinpa posts.

What's your game Kinpa? Are you trying to censor another Eckist for reviewing plagiarisms in a public forum? Or for investigating what that means? Are you intentionally making up lies to intimidate in hopes that I will stop with the illustrations, or go away?

Maybe there is something about you I don't know? Please take this opportunity to explain why you lied about me, about my friends and made up information about my Eckankar membership card.

Reply to author if you don't want to share something publicly. I just think it's time we learned what you are really doing here, and why.

Thank you.

[Henosis Sage]

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RE: "Over a year now and your contributions to a.r.e. have left quite a legacy"

Indeed he hath done that ... in honor of that great contribution I make but
a small humble offering in kind.

SRI SHABDA KINPAMAT Sings the Blues like a Fuzzhammer Guru

https://youtu.be/m_rWoGRpWRs

.

[Kinpa]

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 5:05:36 AM UTC, Etznab wrote:
> Have you already explained your motive and reasons for talking about assholes, shit, fire ants and all the rest?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Because all of those things were absolutely true. Pretty simple.

For making up lies about my membership card, etc.? You said it was none of my business? I told you it is my business and I will continue to ask about why you have done it;

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There were no lies. Only you have been lying about your card. Obviously you are still taking having been exposed pretty seriously, you are DEFINITELY protesting WAY too much for what you claim to actually be true. I'm not buying it. You can ask whatever you want to, however I am under NO Obligation to answer you unless I choose to, and there is nothing you can do about that, sort of goes hand in hand with your right to investigate plagiarisms endlessly the way you do. Get it? It IS extremely simple.

just like I keep asking about the copying and plagiarisms, wanting to talk about it here and explore it.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There now see how easy that was? I have EVERY right to talking about anything I want to just like you do! While I may bitch and complain about your plagiarism discussion, I have never prevented you from doing it. So stop crying about it. NO ONE has EVER stopped you from investigating it. SOME find it to be a waste of time, and those of us who see it that way CAN see it that way! End of story. So you do what you want to do, and so will we! PERFECT!

> Over a year now and your contributions to a.r.e. have left quite a legacy in spite of the dozens and dozens of deleted Kinpa posts.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My contributions, OR lack thereof, are no concern of yours, nor are they subject to your will in ANY way. Why do you care if I delete ANY posts? You seem not to mind when sean does it, and he has quite the history of doing so, and I CAN prove that and have before...so why are you bothering to bring any of it up??? Does it bother you THAT much?? Not feeling as detached as sean once (recently) claimed that you and he were??? It sure doesn't seem that way....

> What's your game Kinpa? Are you trying to censor another Eckist for reviewing plagiarisms in a public forum? Or for investigating what that means? Are you intentionally making up lies to intimidate in hopes that I will stop with the illustrations, or go away?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What game? When have I EVER censored you? You can keep claiming that I am stating lies, but until you prove that you have NO choice but to just ignore it. That is that. Put on your big boy pants and live your life, and stop complaining so much. I have NO care about you and your "illustrations." You keep going and keep doing them. You NEED to because your life appears to me to have no other purpose. I am fine with that, in fact, I just don't care...do what you want to

> Maybe there is something about you I don't know? Please take this opportunity to explain why you lied about me, about my friends and made up information about my Eckankar membership card.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I didn't lie even once. Prove your assertion before claiming that I lied, unless it is simply you refusing to allow your poor ego to suffer....although if that WERE the actual case, it really is no big deal to suffer it....anyhow, show proof, otherwise it can and will continue...and let's not forget to bring up the fact that you are guilty of doing the same thing to me that you've just accused me of doing to you! Calling headquarters in hopes that I would be intimidated and stop revealing things??? Sound familiar at all? It's funny how you demand that as a right but then change your mind when someone does something similar back at you....sorry man, but that IS a double standard...

> Reply to author if you don't want to share something publicly. I just think it's time we learned what you are really doing here, and why.
>
> Thank you.

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To put it simply, it is none of your (or sean's) damned business what I am doing here. You have NO say in the matter, the sooner you accept THAT reality, the better it will be for you. Do the math....

[Henosis Sage]

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[Etznab]

In your head you didn't lie.

I did call headquarters.

My exploring plagiarisms and illustrating examples can hardly be compared to what you have done. Two different things.

Why do you have a habit of trying to blame your actions on others, on spinning other people's words, is just plain denying your actions altogether? I can see what you are doing, Kinpa. Why are you so defensive?

[Kinpa]

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you say so, so then why did YOU mention both in the same post then? Hmmm? Rereading above it seems that YOU started this thread and I quote

"For making up lies about my membership card, etc.? You said it was none of my business? I told you it is my business and I will continue to ask about why you have done it;just like I keep asking about the copying and plagiarisms, wanting to talk about it here and explore it."

Now, there is your double standard in black and white. YOU put those two things TOGETHER in the first place! Then suddenly when it's convenient for you you backtrack and contradict your earlier words! Let us look again at the most recent quote

"My exploring plagiarisms and illustrating examples can hardly be compared to what you have done. Two different things."

And yet by your own earlier words they were already compared and lumped in together! Stop lying richard, you were never very good at it.

> Why do you have a habit of trying to blame your actions on others, on spinning other people's words, is just plain denying your actions altogether? I can see what you are doing, Kinpa. Why are you so defensive?

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Why are YOU so defensive? I have not one thing to be defensive about...nor did I blame MY actions on anyone else....neither you nor sean were ever stalked, if you disagree, that is fine, but go ahead and show proof, I have a great deal about your worse half over there, and it is HE that has consistently been blaming me for the things that he actually does....and I have been so nicely given a huge amount of evidence BY him in the last 24 hours alone! nice try, but ineffective...call headquarters and actually SPEAK with a human! Regardless, prove that you ARE a current member, or stop whining about it. I believe you to be a liar. You get no option in the matter. End of story!

Now, may your heart be blessed by Divine Light and Sound, and Divine Love also, and be blessed with Perfect Health too, in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta! Have a great night richard!

[Etznab]

Two different things. Yes.

Your lies about me vs. my researching plagiarisms. It was you who tried to paint them as the same thing. They are not.

[Kinpa]

No, it is YOUR opinion that I tried to do that. So say that and leave it at that. No reason to say one more word about it.

[Etznab]

You know the woman from the other group that Sean had issues with?

I have seen the way YOU treated people here and the things you wrote. And yet, you picked something and then tried to paint Sean as a rapist. You remember that now don't you you?

And at the same time you were calling him those things and wastoid drunk, etc., etc. and it was all Sean's fault according to you.

Hey Kinpa. I've got news for you. Some very unloving remarks entered a.r.e. with you back in 2014, etc. It wasn't coming from me and it wasn't coming from Sean. You brought some things here Kinpa. Deleting things doesn't make them go away either because I already made a record.

So don't even try to compare YOUR actions with those of others. Because you are proud of your actions now aren't you, Kinpa? You, who had the nerve to whine about other people calling names.

I forgot to add Boopsy (whatever), but these are the kinds of names you used for others here.

scumbag
assbreath
piece of shit!
egotistical and self-centered asshole

drunk
idiot drunk
drunken dolt
drunken fool!
Wastoid drunk!
drunken cirrhosis!
silly drunk little man
drunken piece of shit
ineffectual drunken slob!
flaccid and drunken sock!

silly boy
madman
silly man
little man
young man!
little camper
sad old man
silly man-child
motherf*cker!

LIAR!
deluded liar
hilarious liar
deceptive liar

fool
dolt
idiot
DOLT!
a joke
stalker
moron
dingus!
tosspot!
criminal
little weasel
WEASEL!!!
tough guy!
internet bully
homosexual
douche-nozzle
an obvious dullard!
arrogant and stupid idot!
effeminate waste of flesh!

dumb as a box of rocks
child
big baby!
youngster!
pooooooor baby!

NEENER NEENER NEENER!
dull dull boy
AMATEUR!
imbicilic twits
Nancypants!
internet stalkers
amateur "astrologer"
amateur "numerologist"
Shitter
Mr. Beans
seanie
seanella
pope Sean
pope seanicus
seanie-boy-girl
Poor poor seanella!
poor wittle seanella
Richie
Mr. McLintock
mr. mcclintock
NOT a current member of Eckankar
NOT an ECKist by ANY standards!
Sean = LIAR!
full of shite, and your breath smells like it....
bunch of lushes
Richard = Liar!

mental midget

What was the matter. Can't express yourself well enough without talking trash?

I watched you inflame things here and then call it entertainment. These and other things are why I finally decided to ask you why? Why did you do it and then I asked about meds. It was not to mock but to seek understanding. I don't know anybody who writes like you do. I was wanting to understand you better. I think your kind of humor makes J.R. look like Tinkerbell.

[Kinpa]

So what???? Going to cry again?? Your opinions have been noted. Did you expect anything else to happen?

[Henosis Sage]

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More insane garbage by a deranged psychotic mentally disturbed individual,
who is also an abusive lying internet stalker and has been for years.

[Henosis Sage]

[Henosis Sage]

=

[roberti...@eiu.com]

Etznab,

Am I misunderstanding this? Are you calling yourself an ECKist? Or are you a former ECKist?

Rob

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[Etznab]

Do you come to a.r.e. much? Or is this your first time?

If you had been here for some time, or read much of the posts here, I believe you would find I answered that question multiple times already.

[Kinpa]

He asked you a legitimate question. What on earth are YOU so angry at him for? You believe that no one has any right to ask you that or something?

https://youtu.be/Dq1UtXwi1ek

[Henosis Sage]

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Are you on drugs?

Why are you so angry?

Do you do the same things with your current wife that you did with the last one?

[Etznab]

I didn't know who that was initially. So I asked if he was new here. Later on, I realized it was Rob.

But who are you, Kinpa, to demand anything at this point? You called me angry? I never said I was angry. Is it you who are angry?

Btw. Did you, Kinpa, ask if I was a current member of Eckankar. I think I asked you about this once. Let me see ... Quoting ...

Why don't you ask me if I have a current Eckankar I.D. card? Have you asked me already? (Please show the question and the answer.)

And if you haven't asked me then maybe you should. Maybe that would be the most respectable thing to do (since I have my card and you don't)?

Here is the opportunity.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/S1iL93AZzAcJ

Your response that followed:

"That was how this began, I did not ever ask you. I stated that you do NOT have a current one. You already know this, so, show us! It cannot be ANY simpler than that, I even went first, I am not asking you to do anything that I am unwilling to do myself...that pic is not doctored as the exif data shows very clearly, and I of course invite you to do the same, there is no need for you to reveal your ID number or your initiation level...those are not relevant to the idea I stated....I will however, admit that I AM waiting to see what sean comes up with to prove his claim...feel free to prove me wrong!"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/85-0VhIjs8cJ

I then wrote:

Let the record show Kinpa wrote:

"That was how this began, I did not ever ask you. I stated that you do NOT have a current one. [... .]"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/HGGLW9vCLgkJ

Do you see what that says? You stated that I did not have a current one. And that was not all that you stated.

As for Rob, I recall his language to me in past posts and I think he might care to clean the mud off his boots before asking a question like that, if you know what I mean.

[Kinpa]

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am me...have a problem with that? I don't get angry. But you obviously DO since you have been harping about this for quite some time...it's getting to the point where you appear to be pretty far "out there"...

> Btw. Did you, Kinpa, ask if I was a current member of Eckankar. I think I asked you about this once. Let me see ... Quoting ...
>
> Why don't you ask me if I have a current Eckankar I.D. card? Have you asked me already? (Please show the question and the answer.)
>
> And if you haven't asked me then maybe you should. Maybe that would be the most respectable thing to do (since I have my card and you don't)?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quit your bitching, and SHOW your card! You talk a LOT, and provide not one thing, and still never have, not even once! Don't like my asking? TOO BAD! I can ask all I want to, and you CAN'T do anything about that!

> Here is the opportunity.
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/S1iL93AZzAcJ
>
> Your response that followed:
>
> "That was how this began, I did not ever ask you. I stated that you do NOT have a current one. You already know this, so, show us! It cannot be ANY simpler than that, I even went first, I am not asking you to do anything that I am unwilling to do myself...that pic is not doctored as the exif data shows very clearly, and I of course invite you to do the same, there is no need for you to reveal your ID number or your initiation level...those are not relevant to the idea I stated....I will however, admit that I AM waiting to see what sean comes up with to prove his claim...feel free to prove me wrong!"
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/85-0VhIjs8cJ
>
> I then wrote:
>
> Let the record show Kinpa wrote:
>
> "That was how this began, I did not ever ask you. I stated that you do NOT have a current one. [... .]"
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/mKPJPAMq0rs/HGGLW9vCLgkJ
>
> Do you see what that says? You stated that I did not have a current one. And that was not all that you stated.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stop crying...going to show your card or not? I still don't believe that you have one...you talk a lot but have NEVER shown a card...it is REALLY looking like a lie at this point....THAT is the wonderful thing about opinions, I don't NEED your permission to have it....you have been protesting FAR too much for a person that demands to be believed is telling the truth...where is that card? All of this bellyaching and still nothing?

> As for Rob, I recall his language to me in past posts and I think he might care to clean the mud off his boots before asking a question like that, if you know what I mean.

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Leave Rob alone, he has every right to ask if he wants to, you just worry about the mud on YOUR boots! You have NO right to demand that anyone NOT ask you simple questions! Your permission is in no way required, and you also don't have to like it, but ANYONE certainly CAN ask you if you have a current card!

The ONE thing that you have been consistent with, is that you NEVER show your card! If you aren't going to show it, then why the hell are you SO on the defensive??Not any great amount of detachment going on in this either...sean had claimed that you both WERE quite detached, but that is just another of his lies....in the end, you can piss off richard mcclintock, and I can't put it any simpler than that. And I am breaking NO law by not believing what you say. End of story!

So where is the card then?? Scared to show it????

[Etznab]

Now you are asking about the card?

Nice try at diversion, but you already stated malicious falsehoods with regard to my membership card when considering the context of our dialogue about it for months now.

Add to that your attitude about people shitting and drinking, etc. and it shows how you abused the truth to the detriment of others. That you did it repeatedly and knowingly in spite of others views and attempts to communicate to you the truth. Kinpa, you blatantly refused the truth and did so maliciously. This can already be illustrated because the record has been documented.

Maybe next time you look in the mirror ask yourself what makes you and Rob so special that you, Kinpa, can talk trash and TELL people they aren't members of Eckankar? Who do you think you are to do that? And who is Rob to TELL others what are the qualifications of Eckists. Get over yourselves!

[Kinpa]

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No diversions....you have NEVER shown proof that you actually are an ECKist, and I simply don't believe that you are. I consider you a liar. Deal with it. Don't like that? Too bad. Nice try at diversion yourself. You've played the same card twice. You are not a mirror and that "look in the mirror" ploy is useless. VERY ineffective. You don't look too good by anyone's standards. Why so overly defensive? Have something to hide???

ANYONE can ask you if you are actually an ECKist. Get over yourself. Stop crying about it, because it is THAT that most makes you look like a liar....

[Henosis Sage]

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[Etznab]

You've been caught in lies and lying to and about another Eckists on a public forum. I have the dialogue recorded and documented.

Is it that you are trying to say now (have it appear to look like) it's all about you asking and not about telling?

I've seen it mentioned here before by you, something about you doing things and then later realizing it was not the best thing to do. Is this another case of that?

[Etznab]

It was you who did the insisting and the telling, and you who could have rephrased your words a little better (as I see you are trying to do now).

[Kinpa]

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just a claim, and your documentation means not one thing in ANY court anywhere until you FIRST prove it a lie! How? By PROVING current membership! And you STILL make empty threats and refuse to show a card....keep trying

> Is it that you are trying to say now (have it appear to look like) it's all about you asking and not about telling?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I made no claims. This is more opinion or is it you being creative?

> I've seen it mentioned here before by you, something about you doing things and then later realizing it was not the best thing to do. Is this another case of that?

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This is another claim and opinion. Meaningless. You bore me richard. Why not just show your card and end the entire thing? Your records can't win you anything since no law was ever broken.

Regardless may your dark and narrow heart be blessed by Divine Love and Light, with Perfect Health, in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta!

[Kinpa]

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And who made you the verbiage police? As far as I can see you have NO authority, and so where are you using any of this so called "record?"

You are one funny bird mr. mcclintock!

[Henosis Sage]

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Oh poor the diddums reported your truthful nice post as ABUSE to google Etznab.

Talk about a STALKING CONTROL FREAK with the intelligence of a rock.

[Henosis Sage]

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[Etznab]

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[Etznab]

Question for Fife.

Take a read and please tell us what you think about the writings of this Kinpa person. This member of Eckankar. Do you think that people, that Eckists, have the right to lie with impunity without other people so much as batting an eyelash?

The question is so I can get to know you better, because you have oft written in similar vein as Kinpa. I'm curious what do you think about his lies?

[Etznab]

I know there was a post sent to here.

[Etznab]

O.K. There it is.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/XUYp8GyZEJQ/7bX1pjagAgAJ

[Etznab]

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 6:52:38 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 10:33:24 PM UTC, Etznab wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:50:12 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:

> > > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 5:05:36 AM UTC, Etznab wrote:
> > > > Have you already explained your motive and reasons for talking about assholes, shit, fire ants and all the rest?

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Because all of those things were absolutely true. Pretty simple.
> > >
> > >

> > > For making up lies about my membership card, etc.? You said it was none of my business? I told you it is my business and I will continue to ask about why you have done it;

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > There were no lies. Only you have been lying about your card. Obviously you are still taking having been exposed pretty seriously, you are DEFINITELY protesting WAY too much for what you claim to actually be true. I'm not buying it. You can ask whatever you want to, however I am under NO Obligation to answer you unless I choose to, and there is nothing you can do about that, sort of goes hand in hand with your right to investigate plagiarisms endlessly the way you do. Get it? It IS extremely simple.
> > >
> > >

> > > just like I keep asking about the copying and plagiarisms, wanting to talk about it here and explore it.

> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > There now see how easy that was? I have EVERY right to talking about anything I want to just like you do! While I may bitch and complain about your plagiarism discussion, I have never prevented you from doing it. So stop crying about it. NO ONE has EVER stopped you from investigating it. SOME find it to be a waste of time, and those of us who see it that way CAN see it that way! End of story. So you do what you want to do, and so will we! PERFECT!
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > > Over a year now and your contributions to a.r.e. have left quite a legacy in spite of the dozens and dozens of deleted Kinpa posts.

> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > My contributions, OR lack thereof, are no concern of yours, nor are they subject to your will in ANY way. Why do you care if I delete ANY posts? You seem not to mind when sean does it, and he has quite the history of doing so, and I CAN prove that and have before...so why are you bothering to bring any of it up??? Does it bother you THAT much?? Not feeling as detached as sean once (recently) claimed that you and he were??? It sure doesn't seem that way....
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > > What's your game Kinpa? Are you trying to censor another Eckist for reviewing plagiarisms in a public forum? Or for investigating what that means? Are you intentionally making up lies to intimidate in hopes that I will stop with the illustrations, or go away?

> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > What game? When have I EVER censored you? You can keep claiming that I am stating lies, but until you prove that you have NO choice but to just ignore it. That is that. Put on your big boy pants and live your life, and stop complaining so much. I have NO care about you and your "illustrations." You keep going and keep doing them. You NEED to because your life appears to me to have no other purpose. I am fine with that, in fact, I just don't care...do what you want to
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > > Maybe there is something about you I don't know? Please take this opportunity to explain why you lied about me, about my friends and made up information about my Eckankar membership card.

> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > I didn't lie even once. Prove your assertion before claiming that I lied, unless it is simply you refusing to allow your poor ego to suffer....although if that WERE the actual case, it really is no big deal to suffer it....anyhow, show proof, otherwise it can and will continue...and let's not forget to bring up the fact that you are guilty of doing the same thing to me that you've just accused me of doing to you! Calling headquarters in hopes that I would be intimidated and stop revealing things??? Sound familiar at all? It's funny how you demand that as a right but then change your mind when someone does something similar back at you....sorry man, but that IS a double standard...
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > > Reply to author if you don't want to share something publicly. I just think it's time we learned what you are really doing here, and why.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > To put it simply, it is none of your (or sean's) damned business what I am doing here. You have NO say in the matter, the sooner you accept THAT reality, the better it will be for you. Do the math....
> >
> > "I didn't lie even once. Prove your assertion before claiming that I lied, unless it is simply you refusing to allow your poor ego to suffer....although if that WERE the actual case, it really is no big deal to suffer it....anyhow, show proof, otherwise it can and will continue...and let's not forget to bring up the fact that you are guilty of doing the same thing to me that you've just accused me of doing to you! Calling headquarters in hopes that I would be intimidated and stop revealing things??? Sound familiar at all? It's funny how you demand that as a right but then change your mind when someone does something similar back at you....sorry man, but that IS a double standard..."
> >
> > In your head you didn't lie.
> >
> > I did call headquarters.
> >
> > My exploring plagiarisms and illustrating examples can hardly be compared to what you have done. Two different things.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> If you say so, so then why did YOU mention both in the same post then? Hmmm? Rereading above it seems that YOU started this thread and I quote
>

> "For making up lies about my membership card, etc.? You said it was none of my business? I told you it is my business and I will continue to ask about why you have done it;just like I keep asking about the copying and plagiarisms, wanting to talk about it here and explore it."
>

> Now, there is your double standard in black and white. YOU put those two things TOGETHER in the first place! Then suddenly when it's convenient for you you backtrack and contradict your earlier words! Let us look again at the most recent quote
>
> "My exploring plagiarisms and illustrating examples can hardly be compared to what you have done. Two different things."
>
> And yet by your own earlier words they were already compared and lumped in together! Stop lying richard, you were never very good at it.
>
>
> > Why do you have a habit of trying to blame your actions on others, on spinning other people's words, is just plain denying your actions altogether? I can see what you are doing, Kinpa. Why are you so defensive?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Why are YOU so defensive? I have not one thing to be defensive about...nor did I blame MY actions on anyone else....neither you nor sean were ever stalked, if you disagree, that is fine, but go ahead and show proof, I have a great deal about your worse half over there, and it is HE that has consistently been blaming me for the things that he actually does....and I have been so nicely given a huge amount of evidence BY him in the last 24 hours alone! nice try, but ineffective...call headquarters and actually SPEAK with a human! Regardless, prove that you ARE a current member, or stop whining about it. I believe you to be a liar. You get no option in the matter. End of story!
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> Now, may your heart be blessed by Divine Light and Sound, and Divine Love also, and be blessed with Perfect Health too, in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta! Have a great night richard!

Kinpa says that neither I or Sean were ever stalked. Even though Kinpa bragged about his knowing things (that were lies BTW) from his abilities of remote viewing. Like he was able to see me and my friends at parties. Able to see people on the toilet and people shitting themselves.

This person, IMO, really needed to be reigned in. And he was. It was the truth that did that. Otherwise he could go on and on forever spinning lies and poking fun at anyone he pleased.

Kinpa was given no pardon, because to this very day he has never apologized for the lies he publicly illustrated against me and the malicious falsehoods that were spread. He will get no pardon from me for that. Not as Kinpa, or any other name should he try to come here under the guise of. Eckists do not publicly make out that other members of Eckankar don't have a current membership card when, in fact, they do. That is not the Eckankar I am a member of. That is Kinpa and his deal.