JR the a.r.e. Troll cries foul on the LFN

[Henosis Sage]

JR the a.r.e. Troll cries foul on the LFN


JR the a.r.e. Troll cries foul when *shit* is thrown back in the face of at
the Spiritual Scumbag Matt Sharpe Kinpa who is the real Internet Troll here.

Now JR (ie John Ryan Clark of WA state) used to be known here by multiple
pseudos, a recent one is Dusty Jackson. Dusty and JR would talk to themselves
here as if they were two separate people, when they are not. This is classic
Internet Troll behaviour.

Another old pseudonym was JR as Lurk / arelurker AT charter.net - that was an
educational ISP at the time when JR was studying there in WA state. JR has also posted under JR via that college isp post-Lurk.

Lurk was one of the most outspoken prolific critics of ECKists and Eckankar
here for years in early 2000s. See some of his activity can be seen here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!activity/alt.religion.eckankar/Vzv2gdLuTRcJ

So "Lurk" ie JR was NO 'friend" of Matt Sharpe's nor mine. However for a time I
looked upon JR as a real friend not knowing anything about the Lurk connection.
iow he was knowingly misrepresenting himself to me and ingratiated himself into my good books. Not surprisingly Matt Shapre did the exact same thing with me.
I do not forget such deceits and betrayals once they are proven to me beyond
all doubt.


See some of JRs high quality spirituality and social etiquette here:

cher wrote:
Issues? That piece of crap you offered as a theory? Oh lurk.... you will
pout over this one for ages, won't you? LOL.......
arelurker 18/08/2004
The loud mouth Cunt will not reveal why the theory is crap....she thinks
making me the issue is a refutation. Duh.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/-CcbAI_4L9k/W0knxUtEU4YJ

arelurker 02/11/2003
**Re: * Re: LURK on dehumanising behaviour
Cher, the last thing I think of when I'm with a women is you're cunty behavior.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/HNBPvhpwjnQ/2dcs3VdMPVMJ

arelurker 05/11/2003
lurk on the use of the "c---" word in the proper control of women
arelurker 29/10/2003
LURK on dehumanising behaviour
Sean,
Where else can someone call a women c--- and have one of her fellow members
repeated in a post for her over and over.
Thanks for doing my dirty work Sean. I think she needs to here it again.
Lurk
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/HNBPvhpwjnQ/IesMB9kN3PQJ

Things went so 'crazy' on a.r.e. that before long he was simply responding to
Cher with whole posts that only included scores of the word "c---".

I think he was tad frustrated with her, but I don't know for certain. LOL

It is not unusual for people like JR Clark and Matt Sharpe to carry on like
this online. Pretending to be decent people while endlessly abusing others,
stalking them personally, and lying about them endlessly.

That is precisely The Problem With Trolls, Spiritual Scumbags, Cyber-Stalkers
and Unethical Liars with zero personal Integrity or minimal social values.

Why on earth anyone would ever accept the word or look to JR or Kinpa for
advice or wisdom about "foul mouthed trolls" is beyond me and all normal people
too imho.

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NOW Quoting from the LFN where JR has found a new home with like-minded friends

Submitted by JR on Fri, 2016-01-08 23:05
Spiritual Scumbag - The Problem With Trolls
http://www.lightforcenetwork.com/forum/7/spiritual-scumbag-%E2%80%93-problem-trolls

JR writes:
Scumbag: A reprehensible person with no morals and holds no regard for anyone
but him/herself; A person with no sense of propriety, decency or discretion. -
urbandictionary.com
Scumbag: A dirty or despicable person. - merriam-webster.com
Scumbag: A low-life. - wicktionary.org


HS responds:
YES correct - and it can be noted here in the arechives that it was myself who
first applied that label to Kinpa first. Because it was true. I used this video
to emphasize that truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDZcCKEz1dI

JR writes:
Troll, a one word term defining a highly dysfunctional online user who targets
others using cyber harassment, internet defamation, online deception,
cyberstalking, disinformation, extortion, duplicity and cyberbullying ...


HS responds:
YES correct. This clearly articulates the words and the consistent intentional
behaviour of Matt Sharpe Kinpa here during the last 17 months. I have the evidence. I have reported this dysfunctional behaviour to the FBI, to local
Police and others; and I will continue to do so until it stops. And until all
the abuse and defamation intended to destroy other's "reputations" is removed.


JR writes:
As a forensic psychologist having spent the last 20 years working with
criminal, addicted, psychopathological and cybercriminal minds, the Internet
Troll is a unique and complex profile. Trolls (aka, Internet Trolls) and the
characters they assume, are driven by primitive psychodynamic themes.

One does not have to be a forensic psychologist or criminal profiler to
understand how deeply disturbed they are. The Troll relies upon a fragmented
unconscious and lives within a fantasy world of being powerful, in control and
envied by all others.

HS responds:
YES correct. Self-evident to anyone who has actually read ALL what Kinpa
has written here the last 17 months.

JR then includes in his copy/paste missive many items, finishing with this one:

Never-Give-Up, Never-Surrender Troll: "This troll is ALWAYS right and will
battle to the death to prove it. There's no point in trying to fight her. If
she can't back something up with reality, she'll make something up, just to
show you how wrong you are."

HS responds:
YES correct. This again nails Kinpa to his own petard accurately. One only
needs to READ what he has written here repeatedly to see that.

Or go to the LFN and keep an eye out for his latest version of crying like a baby who refuses to face reality:

SRI SHABDA - Preceptor: "Only fools believe that silence means acquiescence."
- Matt Sharpe 5 days 5 hours ago - on the right side panel "SPEAK YOUR TRUTH"

LMAO~! Truth? What a joke! What an absolute fool is he.

I will not be intimidated. I will not be silenced. I will not stop reporting
Kinpa's Matt Sharpe's disgusting scumbag behavior to appropriate authorities
and relevant websites and organizations such as Eckankar for starters.

Meanwhile JR can say whatever he wants on the LFN website. And so can Kinpa.

And anyone who wishes to believe them and take their "side" and continue to
look upon them as the poor "victims" while ignoring the facts and the truth
of all this can do so.

Lastly there is a huge difference between being a scumbag troll Back-Stalker:
"This Internet Troll will pour through your archives until he or she finds
something you wrote that contradicts something you've written more recently.
It will be pointed out. Every time you write anything."

.... and a truth teller who is exposing a scumbag troll and their non-stop
predilection for LYING and misrepresenting themselves, and their LONG TERM
dysfunctional, entrenched and abusive behaviours.

Of course people do and can change. That is true. By their fruits though shalt
know them... is my response.


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On the flip side, much good was done and much love has been shared on this group over the years. Here is one small example of that.

Sean and Sam have a short chat after much water under the bridge.

QUOTING from
Re: when detractors stoop to using widowhood as a weapon... <sigh>
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/-CcbAI_4L9k/xEGKGVJhh4UJ


Sam
28/08/2004

"sean" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message news
Hi Samo,

How ru doing? May the books roll out the door and the money fall into your
lap! :)

Yes detachment and caring [compassion] are pretty important to help smooth
out the edges of living in the world.

I miss you. I learned a lot from you on this newsgroup,

Love Sean

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SAM responds:

Well, it seems like a hundred years have come and gone since I first
started reading and posting here. I almost always posted with an open
heart, albeit in a style that's somewhat protestant in delivery. When
I reflect back upon what I was trying to say, it makes some sense
considering that I'm from a Protestant background. In real life, I'm
not one to rock the boat too much anywhere - would rather go about my
way in a quiet manner, unnoticed. I'm rereading a book titled
"Creative Aggression - The Art of Assertive Living" by Dr. George R.
Bach, and Dr. Herb Goldberg. It's nice and noble to be loving and all,
and have a heart of gold, but unfortunately, I've often been taken
advantage of by others due to my kind nature. So sometimes kicking
back a bit doesn't hurt at all. It doesn't mean that we should become
anti this and anti that, just more realistic. There's nothing wrong
with expressing anger, for sometimes that's the best way to heal, that
is, if we can then let the issue go. I was quite pissed off about a
lot of things when I first came to this forum, but along the way, with
good folks such as yourself - who's not afraid to speak his mind - I
feel fine about religion, for the most part anyway. I just don't wish
to think about it too much anymore. It's an interesting topic, but too
much of it can lead to inertia, unproductivity, and a sense of life
having no meaning. Like, round and round and round that poor old mind
goes. I think highly creative people often have a hard time in life.
When the imagination works positively, heaven is near, but watch out
when it starts getting negative. It's a double-edged sword.

As for you having learned much from me, so have I from you and others.
That's how I always wanted to see this newsgroup, people sharing and
teaching each other. That's what we're here for. The problem is, it's
all too easy to get jaded in this forum, so I would suggest to any
newcomer: Use this forum sparingly and with great care. Most
importantly - If you can appreciate the different styles of humour,
you just might become an elder in the Church of Big Egos and survive.

Love
Samo



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POST SCRIPT


People are more than welcome, as well as able to go compare the posts by
Sean and Sam and Etznab and Henosis Sage and Peetee with those from JR/Lurk
and from Kinpa Matt Sharpe here anytime they want.

It is so very easy to apply faulty "definitions and examples" as JR has done,
as Matt Sharpe keeps doing here the last 17 months and TWIST THE TRUTH OUT OF
PROPORTION TO THE REALITY.

That is in fact what real cyber-stalkers and internet scumbag trolls and
spiritual frauds tend to do. They project their own disgusting long term
anti-social and dysfunctional behaviours onto to others whilst claiming
purity and innocence and playing the Victim instead.

What actually counteracts such bullshit is the Truth backed up by verifiable
facts, in throwing their own "words" back at them by repeating them as quotes often, showing the original evidence of what they had said and done, and also
by "mimicking" their own behaviour by copying it and then watching them SCREAM
BLOODY MURDER the moment they see in front of them their very own words and
behaviour they had already brought to a group like a.r.e. in the FIRST PLACE.

They hate it.

They also hate being accurately labelled for what they are and the behaviours
they exhibit ... Liars and manipulators and seriously disturbed individuals
and internet scumbag trolls and abusive cyber-stalkers for YEARS online.

I will continue TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT as best as I am able to and often.

Set The Record Straight
The place to clear your name, hide from abuse, and to comfort those who hurt
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/106988988392755761538

and We've Only Just Begun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPAM5ABhvs

No Quarter!

Remember?

I do not Lie!

Remember?


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[Kinpa]

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http://tinyurl.com/JR-Mistaken-Identity

[Kinpa]

Mistaken identity is defined as ... An instance when someone incorrectly thinks that they have found or recognized a particular person - collinsdictionary.com

Who do people think that you are? How do they define you? More importantly, are they correct in their assessment?

Humor me here for a moment.

I believe I may have a Doppelgänger or at least an evil twin or at the very very least, I am the target of someone's rather overactive imagination which is the most likely scenario. Exactly why this has happened I do not know and having worked in a hospital for many years in Urgent Care and often exposed to Personality Disordered individuals, I am not about to play amateur psychologist to try and figure out why I have been mistaken for someone else. It seems to be too tangled of an ongoing web for me to unravel yet I thought it only kind to bring some awareness to the finger pointer at large and perhaps help others who are not firmly in their own power enough to be unaffected by such instability from another person.

Now, in all fairness, sure, people make mistakes and usually they are honest ones and totally forgivable but when a person accuses someone of something or of being someone else for personal/ego satisfaction, jealousy, hatred, gain, or to make themselves appear as some sort crusader, well, they just might deserve a little more than some egg on their face. There are names for people like this:

Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeler - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Famacider - a killer of reputation
Liar - which covers all of the above
Let's review some spiritual law about accusation:

Spiritual Law states that we all are supposed to make 'diligent inquisition' which means we are supposed to be very careful and search the actual facts before making a judgment against someone. Most normal people take the time to do this. Yet, someone with an agenda or a deviant mind will skip this prerequisite and jump to what looks like a familiarity and use it for basis in fact because it is effective (to them at least) and or fits the fantasy that has been created. That familiarity is often superficial at best and nowhere near the actual truth and very easy to see through in some cases and in other cases a well-veiled manipulation that a bit of research can unveil as there is often a prominent psychological pattern. The whole thing is a shame really when all our unfriendly neighborhood accuser had to do was man up and ask. Personally, in my case, I would be more than happy to answer any questions to alleviate doubt.

False accusation is worse than backbiting and some petty gossip. At its very worst, multiple false accusations result in a distortion campaign. Remember, false accusations are used by abusers as a deflection technique, to discredit their victim and promote the idea that the abuse is merited. This ends up inevitably worse for the accuser than his target because he winds up in an endless and never-ending loop of lying to cover up previous sins in order to remain believable. That means a lot of sleepless nights and energy expended in a negative direction. More's the pity methinks - a little karmic kickback there.

Here are some helpful hints for staying in your personal power and engaging your higher self:

Don't let them get into your head - do not believe everything a Personality-Disordered person says to you or about you. If they are vulnerable to deceiving themselves they will occasionally try to deceive you too.
Don't try to negotiate by asking the Personality-Disordered individual to retract their accusations more than once. The goal of the false accusation may be simply to bait you into a fight.
Don't play Dr. Phil by trying to over-analyze false claims. If someone believes something untrue, that is their problem, not yours.
Drop the guilt and don't blame yourself for being falsely accused. You are responsible for the truth in your own words, not someone else's.
Somewhere, out there (as the song goes) there is another JR who is also suffering from a case of mistaken identity. I hope he too is in his power and unaffected. I'm sure he would accept an apology just like I would. In the meantime ... Sometimes you just gotta' laugh.