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Are Philip and Stephanie Carr-Gom really 'Crooks'?

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ardad...@gmail.com

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May 8, 2009, 4:09:34 PM5/8/09
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Michael McGrath, the man who used to claim he was the 'Archdruid of
Ireland' until he volunteered his 'retirement, effective immediately'
on April 27 2009 has declared Philip Carr-Gom and his wife Stephanie
as 'Crooks'. I don't know these people and wonder if this is a widely
held belief.

Here is what McGrath said:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.druid/browse_thread/thread/f9af9f80752a6c63/c41d42ca731435d1?lnk=gst&q=Philip+Carr-Gomm#c41d42ca731435d1


"Carr-Gomm's books are a load of trash"

"OBOD is simply a money-making machine, it was never otherwise, even
high druids of the Council of British Druid
Orders have told me that - including my former colleague, the former
Chairman of CoBDO the late Tony Newman"

"Carr-Gomm's books ... don't make much money, but they are designed to
lead the reader on to join OBOD and you can't join OBOD without
agreeing to pay the fees for its correspondence course..."

"And in recent years Philip has made his wife Stephanie the Chief
Scribe of OBOD, to ensure his majority on the OBOD Triad that controls
his order, and thus hold on tightly to the monies and properties of
OBOD. Philip has also played little or no part since 1995 in the
organization and development of Druidry in England. He has contented
himself to count the new members and the money as he continues to
enrich himself at the great expense of Druidry in the UK and abroad."

"... what is now obvious to all of us over here to be nothing more
than a money-making operation, not for the cause of Druidry, but for
the personal and continuing enrichment of Mr. and Mrs. Philip and
Stephanie Carr-Gomm. It is variously estimated that they have amassed
three to four million pounds stering out of their Druid venture to
date from subscriptions to the OBOD Correspondence course."

" Most people who paid their monies to OBOD, thinking that they were
helping the cause of Druidry, are now disillusioned. And when they
become disillusioned with Druidry, they do not stay as Druids , they
do not move on to genuine Druid Orders, they leave for good,
disheartened forever"

- (hey, I thought Orders were a bad thing)

"Basically you have an old coterie of Janet Farrar, Philip Carr-Gomm,
Olivia Durdin Robertson and such other Anglo-Irish and expatriate
English people in Ireland at the helm, they're all very genteel
people, and they like the native irish in a most benevolent sweet way
- but they get darned tougb when the native Irish do not seem grateful
for their paternal and patronising help. And they constitute the
greatest block amongst the Irish to the advance of Druidry."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.druid/browse_thread/thread/a810878c540223b1/e0dda97395f6d682#e0dda97395f6d682
"OBOD are even bigger Crooks, Frauds and Beggars than Bonewits, and
what a load of absolutle manure they produce."

cons...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2009, 9:09:12 PM5/12/09
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But -
Almost all Druid Orders and groves and almost every wiccan coven and
pagan outfit on the face of the earth welcomed Gina , the new
Archdruid of Tara, massive Druid Orders such as OBOD - Philip Carr-
Gomm almost tripped over himself to welcome Gina, there was never
anything like it seen on Tara with so many High Druids of Ireland,
Britain and the World present for her Initiation.

from
http://www.groupsrv.com/religion/about293126-0-asc-0.html
says McGrath fake druid

stonehengeio

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May 12, 2009, 9:34:00 PM5/12/09
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Phillips not allowed in CoBDO until he works for free, even if he did
help Rollo found it.
seems perfectly logical to me.
I see you talking to yourself and getting tied, so i will let you
sleep now.
Im just getting up.LOL

An Coibhi Drui

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May 12, 2009, 10:39:14 PM5/12/09
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Con is not allowed in by the Irish Druids even if he does work for
free !!!

ardad...@gmail.com

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May 13, 2009, 1:31:38 AM5/13/09
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On May 13, 3:39 am, An Coibhi Drui <PhotographerOfKilke...@gmail.com>
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What Irish Druids? Facts Mr Newspaper man. You would think you were
only lying about being a journo with your lack of background and
substantiation.

Cormac Mac Carthaigh

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May 18, 2009, 8:57:27 PM5/18/09
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> substantiation.- Hide quoted text -

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He has certainly defamed Mr Carr-Gom and his wife in the above piece

An Coibhi Drui

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May 19, 2009, 12:09:30 PM5/19/09
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On May 19, 12:57 am, Cormac Mac Carthaigh <guydecerv...@gmail.com>
wrote:


And you're worried about that, Con ?
They made it big with their OBOD Course, real big money too,
whereas your oul shyte of a Druidschool course is an dismal failure -
I made sure of that !

Cheers,
Michael.

mona...@netzero.com

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Apr 8, 2020, 1:59:53 AM4/8/20
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I'm surely late to this party but having met and traveled forests with Philip and Stephanie on the west coast of America many years ago I can say without hesitation that their understanding of the worlds of nature and spirits, including human spirits is on very good footing. Whoever is complaining about them making money needs to look at how druids have worked throughout the ages. Does anyone think that they weren't compensated in many ways for their study, their knowledge and their leadership? Take a snapshot of reality. please. Mona Leigh (OBOD)since 1994.
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