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JazzIs TvRicky

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Jul 11, 2017, 5:28:01 AM7/11/17
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I am determined to eliminate pressure and control from the practice of Faith in Nichiren's Teachings

Noel

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Well done Richard,I commend you for making it known why gongyo isn't necessary by emphasising over and over again by presenting gosho to drive the message home

I feel liberated in knowing that my practice using daimoku with Nichiren's 10 world Gohonzon is now complete and unwanting

tvr...@gmail.com

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Noel now take it and teach it widely, my friend. Together we can open the world to the power of Faith as taught in Nichiren's Teachings👍🏽🙏🏽😊

Noel

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Jul 11, 2017, 6:56:23 AM7/11/17
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Amen to that. How can such conviction of a revelation of such magnitude be contained.

It has been a long journey frought with many many obstacles to reach this level of practice which is the most pure and simple

tvr...@gmail.com

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Noel in all my declarations since 1985...you have truly grasped what Nichiren is Teaching! I am sure we have a profound mission, as fellow Bodhisattvas of The Earth 🌏

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Sincerely Richard

Noel

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I consider myself most fortunate for being able to hear Nichiren and finding a an unregulated forum ARBN where free thinkers can share their revelations without the fear of having to be of the same mind as the regulator or be banished

Only in this way can truth reveal itself by being unhindered by supression and grow free

JazzIs TvRicky

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Deep this is my friend🙏🏽

Katie Higgins

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So how come Nichiren recited the Sutra and recommended daily recitation for his disciples and lay followers ? I dunno - but maybe he believed the Buddha's every single golden word ?
I follow Nichiren and practice as he did - to
The best of my understanding and ability .

Ricky proved that the fourfold rise and fall is like a cross to a vampire with regard to his " Tendai bunk" -/

Ricky has done little else but post his every brain fart here to disrupt discussion and bury the information I shared from " scholarly sources "

Not deterred -/😉

~Katie

Chas.

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The practice of gongyo in front of the Gohonzon was not formalized until around 1500 BCE:

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/dic/Content/R/45#para-0

Having said that it is very possible that when Nichiren Daishonin said "gongyo" in a Gosho letter that he literally meant to “exert [oneself in] practice.”:

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/dic/Content/G/53

That would mean chanting every day and as much as one could (which is sage advice.)

I cannot find the names "Threefold Lotus Sutra", nor "Chu Hokkekyo" in searching the two WND volumes, does it have another name?

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

JazzIs TvRicky

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Eventually this will be taught and embraced by most who seriously seek The Way! What a wonder that I was the first to proclaim this in a way accessible to all!

Even though I be nearby' they refuse to see me...

Katie Higgins

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For Chas:
Meaning of gongyo in medieval japanese.

勤行 - 学研全訳古語辞典
名詞※「す」が付いて他動詞(サ行変格活用)になる①仏道修行をすること。②決まった時刻に仏前で読経・焼香などをすること。お勤め。◆仏教語。

" medieval " is the term I'd like to emphasize / for Chas, who thinks this description of Buddhist practice was. "Post" / Nichiren thing ‼️

~Katie

JazzIs TvRicky

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What is Gongyo anyway? Why did it come about? Who started this tradition? Why is it constantly changed by certain groups?

Good Questions all! But there is no need for them. Because there is no need to perform Gongyo a concept not found in any scripture or writing by Nichiren or Shakyamuni. It has no relevant history among lay persons who practice Nichiren's Teachings. For instance:

"In 13th century Japan, not many people were able to read kanji, the Chinese characters into which the Lotus Sutra was translated into from Sanskrit. Therefore, the Daishonin sent letters to his literate disciples such as Toki Jonin and Shijyo Kingo , and asked them to read them to many other disciples. Furthermore, and unlike most other Buddhist priests of his day, the Daishonin often used the common language of the time (Hiragana, or Japanese phonetic characters) in his letters, so that as many of his followers as possible could read them.

Among the Daishonin’s disciples, many were farmers and common people such as the famous three brothers of Atsuhara Village.Their practice only consisted of chanting daimoku, since they could not read the Lotus Sutra. Obtaining a copy of the Lotus Sutra was expensive and very difficult, so it seems most unlikely that they would have had such a copy. In fact, it seems that most disciples relied solely on chanting daimoku as their primary practice. At any rate, the Daishonin certainly stressed the importance of chanting daimoku as the primary practice.

In 1277, Nichiren Daishonin wrote a letter to Matsuno Rokuro Saemon: As I have been saying for some time, in your situation as a lay believer, you should just single-mindedly chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo morning and evening, day and night” (WND p. 843).

A year later, in 1278, the Daishonin wrote to the lay nun Myoho(*8) : “The Heart of the Lotus Sutra is its title, or the daimoku, of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. Truly, if you chant this in the morning and evening, you are correctly reading the entire Lotus Sutra.” (WND p.923)

The Atsuhara brothers must have chanted daimoku single-mindedly to fight as they did against governmental authority and to have been willing to sacrifice their lives for their beliefs. Although they probably did not recite the Lotus Sutra, they were examples of true disciples. Indeed, it was their strong faith and courageous actions that eventually led to the Daishonin inscribing the Dai-Gohonzon for the sake of people throughout the world.

So now as to our particular addiction to reciting Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra which I see as a 'danger'as the Daishonin warns in his Ten Major Writings, one of which is deeply dealing with 'FAITH and PRACTICE'

This Gosho is most important in determining this very important doctrinal question and it's positioning within our practice of faith

The Doctrine I am referring to is Nichiren's Writing: 'On The Four Stages Of Faith and The Five Stages of Practice'

I would like to delve deeper into this work so that I may present important concepts and doctrine found within this work which sometimes gets confusing to those coming in contact with it for the first time or for those who are not necessarily good at study or rely on group study to comprehend. Then, there are always those with ego, arrogance, 'gotta be right', 'everything is fake', 'the real meaning' ETC, We will let them do as they please.

I prefer to follow the words of 'Shakyamuni Buddha' as he states in the Sixth Volume of the Nirvana Sutra: "Rely On The Law' - "The Nirvana Sutra says: “Rely on the Law and not upon persons.... Rely on wisdom and not on discriminative thinking.”

"A sutra says: "Rely on the Law and not upon persons. Rely on the meaning [of the teaching] and not upon the words. Rely on wisdom and not upon discriminative thinking. Rely on sutras that are complete and final and not on those that are not complete and final." The meaning of this passage is that one should rely not upon the words of the bodhisattvas and teachers, but should heed what was established by the Buddha. It further means that one should rely not upon the teachings of the Shingon, Zen and Nembutsu sects, which are based upon the Kegon, Agon, Hodo and Hannya sutras, but uphold the sutras that are complete and final. And by relying upon "sutras that are complete and final," it means upholding the Lotus Sutra."
{'How Those Initially Aspiring to the Way Can Attain Buddhahood Through the Lotus Sutra' Major Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, Vol. 6,}

So with the Buddha's words as our guide, let's examine this Gosho in some detail.

In the Gosho 'On the Four Stages of Faith and the Five Stages of Practice'

Nichiren opens by stating he no longer agrees with the concept of the three types of learning associated with the practice of the Lotus Sutra. He then moves directly to thetransmission section bypassing both the preparation and revelation sections. Nichiren writes: {"Setting aside here as a whole the sacred teachings of the Buddha's lifetime, let us examine the question in the light of the Lotus Sutra. Here, too, we may set aside the teachings contained in the preparation and revelation sections. That brings us to the transmission section, which constitutes a clear mirror for the Latter Day of the Law and is most to be relied upon [in determining this matter]."

{"The transmission section has two parts. The first is that of the theoretical teaching and consists of the five chapters beginning with the Hosshi chapter. The second is that of the essential teaching and consists of the latter part of the Fumbetsu Kudoku chapter through the eleven chapters that comprise the remainder of the sutra. The five chapters from the theoretical teaching and the eleven and a half chapters from the essential teaching combine to make sixteen and a half chapters, and in these it is clearly explained how one should practice the Lotus Sutra in the Latter Day of the Law.'}

How many times I have heard in explanations of the practice at various meetings the sixteen and a half chapter analogy. Now Nichiren clarifies it and how important it is in the practice of 'The Way'.

"Within these chapters of transmission, the four stages of faith and five stages of practice expounded in the in Fumbetsu Kudoku chapter represent the most important essential in the practice of the Lotus Sutra, a mirror to persons living in the time of the Buddha and after his passing.

This is made clear and present within the lives of those truly seeking. These are the teachings of Nichiren from publications which are accepted by most popular Buddhist Sects and Organizations.

Nichiren goes on to pen the most important doctrine from this writing,
"Ching-hsi writes: "'To produce even a single moment's faith and understanding' represents the beginning in the practice of the essential teaching." Of these various stages, the four stages of faith are intended for those living in the Buddha's lifetime, and the five stages of practice for those living after his passing. Among these, the first of the four stages of faith is that of producing even a single moment's faith and understanding, and the first of the five stages of practice is that of rejoicing on first hearing the Lotus Sutra. These two stages together form a casket containing the treasures of the "hundred worlds and thousand factors" and the "three thousand realms in a single life-moment"; they are the gate from which all Buddhas of the ten directions and the three existences emerge.

Shakyamuni compassionately regarded his fellow human beings, all of whom shared with him
the same potential for enlightenment. He was saddened by their worries, and he took on their
sufferings as his own. Therefore, he tirelessly expounded his teachings—the Dharma, or Law—
to awaken all people to the truth concealed in their lives. The Buddha wholeheartedly devoted
himself to the struggle to open people’s eyes to the eternal Law to which he was awakened.

Nichiren Daishonin named this eternal Law Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. While Nam-myoho-renge-
kyo is the name of the Law, it is also the name of the life of the Buddha who is one with that
Law; that is to say, it is the very life of Nichiren Daishonin. This Law is the ultimate source of all
Buddhas. Therefore, rather than making Shakyamuni or any other Buddha the object of
devotion, the object of devotion should be the eternal Law itself.

Now we move on realizing how important it is that we identify what The Eternal Law is and means as it pertains to the practice of Nichiren's Buddhism. In the Scripture" 'Reply to Kyo'o' Nichiren writes: "I, Nichiren, have inscribed my life in sumi, so believe in the Gohonzon with your whole heart. The Buddha's will is the Lotus Sutra, but the soul of Nichiren is nothing other than Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. Miao-lo states in his interpretations, "The revelation of the Buddha's original enlightenment is the heart of the sutra."

Where are we to see any great import on the recitation of Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra. Even when Nichiren recommends reciting it it is either before Sado Teachings or concerning prayers for the deceased or memorials.

What is to be noted is the fact that Nichiren uses the words, simply, simple, only, exclusively, solely, only, single, single-mindedly, single-minded. etc in reference to the Daimoku and not the recitation of the Sutra. I will provide sources to back up what I am trying to convey.

{simply}: "Question: If a person simply chants Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with no understanding of its meaning, are the benefits of understanding thereby included?
Answer: When a baby drinks milk, it has no understanding of its taste, and yet its body is naturally nourished. Who ever took the wonderful medicines of Jīvaka knowing of what they were compounded? Water has no intent, and yet it can put out fire. Fire consumes things, and yet how can we say that it does so consciously? This is the explanation of both Nāgārjuna and T’ien-t’ai, and I am restating it here."

{only{: "Question: What passages of proof can be cited to show that one should chant only the daimoku?
Answer: The eighth volume of the Lotus Sutra of the Wonderful Law states that one who accepts and upholds the mere name of the Lotus Sutra will enjoy immeasurable good fortune.

{solely} " But ignorant persons living in this latter age of ours, a time of evil and confusion, should discard the so-called difficult-to-practice way and easy-to-practice way that the Nembutsu believers talk of, and devote themselves solely to chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, the daimoku of the Lotus Sutra.

{single-mindedly}: "This is the only glory that you need seek in your present lifetime, and is the action that will draw you toward Buddhahood in your next existence. Single-mindedly chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo and urge others to do the same; that will remain as the only memory of your present life in this human world. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.

{exclusively}: "Such persons are restricted from practicing almsgiving, the keeping of the precepts, and the others of the five paramitas, and are directed to chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo exclusively. This practice corresponds to the capacity of persons at the stages of "producing even a single moment's faith and understanding" and "rejoicing on first hearing the Lotus Sutra." It represents the true intention of the Lotus Sutra."

Now we return to our purpose here. Why I say, with the proof of Scripture, that reciting Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra is not necessary in the practice of faith and taking the Buddhist Concept of Zuiho Bini into consideration it makes little sense in countries like America where the diversity of cultures and cultural differences are many. This Buddhist Precept

precept of adapting to local customs [随方毘尼] ( zuihō-bini): A Buddhist precept indicating that, in matters the Buddha did not expressly either permit or forbid, one may act in accordance with local custom so long as the fundamental principles of Buddhism are not violated. The precept of adapting to local customs was employed when Buddhism made its way to various regions that differed in culture, tradition, manners and customs, climate, and other natural and human aspects. While this guidance does not prohibit or prescribe any specific behavior, it is described as a precept.

In another writing Nichiren writes:"Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is “the master of all the Buddhas of the three existences, the teacher of all the bodhisattvas in the ten directions, and the guide that enables all living beings to attain the Buddha way”

Where dose the Daishonin give specifics in the writing at hand on the exclusivity of the Daimoku and the negation of reciting Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra?

Nichiren writes:
"Question: For practitioners in the Latter Day of the Law, who have just aroused the aspiration for enlightenment, what types of practice are restricted?
Answer: Such persons are restricted from practicing almsgiving, the keeping of the precepts, and the others of the five paramitas, and are directed to chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo exclusively. This practice corresponds to the capacity of persons at the stages of "producing even a single moment's faith and understanding" and "rejoicing on first hearing the Lotus Sutra." It represents the true intention of the Lotus Sutra.
- hide quoted text -

Sincerely, Richard H Brown A Votary of The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Chas.

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Readers will note that Mark Rogow and Katie smear along with what the KGB used to call the "useful idiots" Iain and now Noel and Ricky, while I quote the many history books to make my case against the un-indicted war criminals of Nichiren Shu, initiators and co-perpetrators of the Asian Holocaust against the peoples of the Pacific Rim and especially the Chinese people of Nanking.

These war criminals have never been brought to justice.

It is high time that they are hauled into court, because there is no statute of limitations on war crimes.

Justice for the victims of the Rape of Nanking and elsewhere, and prosecution of the war criminals of Nichiren Shu, whose radical militaristic followers and chaplains misled the Japanese people and the royalty into this abomination!

Their distortions of Nichiren Buddhism into Shinto statue worship is the cause, and that distortion continues to be perpetuated by Mark Rogow and Katie Higgins and their "useful idiot", Iain.

Their attacks on the SGI are merely a cover for their perpetual guilt over their complicity in war crimes while the founders of the SGI were cornered by Imperial Way Buddhism and their Shinto Talisman supporting the Pacifc War of Imperial State Zen. Mr. Makiguchi and Mr. Toda were ultimately imprisoned in Tokyo until Mr. Makiguchi's death and Mr. Toda's release at the end of the War, while the forces unleashed by Nichiren Shu (and with the complicity of the Nichiren Shoshu priesthood) ran rampant over China and the Pacific Rim.

here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

and here:

http://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_JapWarCrimes.html

The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre

The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses

The Bataan Death March (1942)

The Sandakan Death March (1945)

Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)

Conscripting women for sexual slavery in Japanese Army brothels (1937-1945)

Mutilation and murder of Dutch civilians in Borneo

Murder and cannibalism - captured American pilots

-Chas

JazzIs TvRicky

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Re: Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:49 am
by Minobu
JazzIsTvRicky wrote:
I am a Teacher of The Law

Why do I proclaim this title?

Who else has presented this Doctrinal Discussion on 'Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects'?

Where are three any books or published works which propounds what I have presented here?



From where i sit thats a might big ego trip ya got going there.
Pretty self centered as well.
We all have opinion , and unlike Tien Tai the Great , Lord Buddha , Lord Buddha Nagarjuna, Dengyo the Great, Nichiren Daishonin , we follow their lead and their part in establishing Lotus Buddhism and practice, not declaring to the world "I am a Teacher of The Law".

So you have opinion on gongyo, great !!! good for you.
Did you reinvent it? I don't think so./
People will always discuss and opinionated on these matters.

this does not make you a I am a Teacher of The Law.
A teacher of the Law is one who is enlightened to it.
Now if you can show us that , then i will be the first to say so.

so keep diatribing on about gongyo . But please do not embarass yourself with your declaration of being "I am a Teacher of The Law" .

It's really great though you praise Daimoku and see it as The Way . for sure you are well read in gosho and it has entered your mindstream .


you do realize there are orally handed traditions in Nichiren Shonin's Dharma, and Gongyo or the practice of reciting the chapters we do is one of them.

I tried to convey to you in this thread that since i came back i have not done it...once or twice doing just the recital of the three chapter thing....rather badly...

But when i made a determination to get this into my daily life and do the prescribed three chapter thing on it's own in keeping with Nichiren Daishonin's words about if you have time you can offer up a reciting of the Lotus sutra, or something close to what he intended in gosho...

So I'm now doing it daily once...and it has enhanced everything to do with my day...

so i would be careful in this quest of yours to thwart it's practice./
JazzIsTvRicky wrote:
If you can move my stance 'left' then please do so. I am truly seeking, while also teaching.

Sincerely, JazzIs









what you are teaching is to not do this practice ....dangerous stuff ....and defo not in accordance with being one of these..
[b]I am a Teacher of The Law[b]

Re: Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:47 am
by Minobu
also there is the primary practice in this Buddhist dharma and then there are auxiliary practises.

just saying...both are important like study and how you live your life whilst displaying the fact you are a follower and should try at least to act with decency ...and do gongyo when you can...offer up prayers to the deceased when you can as an auxiliary practice.

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Re: Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:41 pm
by Queequeg
Joking aside...

As far as I know, there are NO Nichiren denominations that share Richard's views that any practice other than chanting of daimoku is actually prohibited. The actual continuous lineages in their several forms all include recitation of the 2nd and 16th Chapters of the Lotus Sutra in their regular practice - not just memorial services. There has never been a prohibition that lay people not recite portions of the Lotus Sutra.

Just because a teaching is essential does not mean it is exclusive of all other practices.

Nichiren actually praised "reading" the sutra with the body as the highest practice:

Tomorrow I am to leave for the province of Sado. In the cold tonight, I think of what it must be like for you in prison, and it pains me. Admirable Nichirō, because you have read the entirety of the Lotus Sutra with both the physical and spiritual aspects of your life, you will also be able to save your father and mother, your six kinds of relatives, and all living beings. Others read the Lotus Sutra with their mouths alone, in word alone, but they do not read it with their hearts. And even if they read it with their hearts, they do not read it with their actions. It is reading the sutra with both one’s body and mind that is truly praiseworthy! Since the sutra teaches that “the young sons of heavenly beings will wait on him and serve him. Swords and staves will not touch him and poison will have no power to harm him,” certainly nothing untoward will befall you. When you are released from prison, please come as quickly as you can. I am eager to see you, and to show you that I too am well.


There is no dispute that chanting the Daimoku with faith is the Essential Practice. That is not where the path Nichiren taught ends and to focus on a few words with a literal bend and ignore the contextual meaning of those words, in translation, no less, is almost guaranteed to lead to some unique conclusions.

Re: Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:55 am
by JazzIsTvRicky
Nichiren Teaches:



"You should realize that it is because of a profound karmic relationship from the past that you can teach others even a sentence or phrase of the Lotus Sutra.

The sutra reads, “Nor will they hear the correct Law—such people are difficult to save.” The “correct Law” means the Lotus Sutra; it is difficult to save those who are deaf to the teachings of this sutra.

A passage from the “Teacher of the Law” chapter reads: “If one of these good men or good women [in the time after I have passed into extinction is able to secretly expound the Lotus Sutra to one person, even one phrase of it, then you should know that] he or she is the envoy of the Thus Come One.”

This means that anyone who teaches others even a single phrase of the Lotus Sutra is the envoy of the Thus Come One, whether that person be priest or layman, nun or laywoman.

You are already a lay practitioner and therefore one of the “good men” described in the sutra. One who listens to even a sentence or phrase of the sutra and cherishes it deep in one’s heart may be likened to a ship that crosses the sea of the sufferings of birth and death.

The Great Teacher Miao-lo stated, “Even a single phrase cherished deep in one’s heart will without fail help one reach the opposite shore.

To ponder one phrase and practice it is to exercise navigation.” Only the ship of Myoho-renge-kyoenables one to cross the sea of the sufferings of birth and death."

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1 ... t/3#para-3

There is no arrogance in declaring the truth! Nowhere on this Earth has anyone taught Nichiren Daishonin's Teachings as I have presented here!

I suggest you who are knowledgeable seRch deeply and find the diamond of Faith in 'The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo,

Sincerely Richard H Brown A Votary of The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

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Katie Higgins

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As Ricky and Chas scuttle away from exposure of their ignorance-- DO, please note that the practice of reciting sutras at designated time/daily was medieval Japanese Buddhist practice-- This would be Nichiren's reference for his citation in the Chu-hokkekyo regarding gongyo and attaining Buddhahood.

It is particularly grueling to move beyond the long standing practice of "dueling Gosho passages" as a "standard" for serious doctrinal debates. Besides translation error and a few proven forgeries, the real problem is that Nichiren himself read and studied extensively-- there is probably no one who has completed the reading of nichiren's bibliography-- Additionally Nichiren himself describe "ongoing" benefits of his own correct faith-- meaning that because he was realizing the "effect" of correct faith, having mastered the writings that stood up to qualify as doctrinal foundation for his teachings, he was aware of the "benefit" for ALL who are able to practice correctly and assiduously and Independently; that,they too would encounter good influences, and comprehend profound teachings-- they would "know" as Nichiren did. Expecting to clinch an argument with a Gosho passage would be as foolish as Nichiren propagating a "new" teaching based on "passages" of any treatise written by any Great Sage. That is not how Nichiren learned, and it is not how he taught others!!

Getting to the heart of the matters that matter most to those who do want to practice as Nichiren did and are concerned about the doctrines that are the foundation for his teachings, requires consultation with those who have expertise with classical Chinese and classical Japanese as well as historical and cultural background that informed the language and its meaning.

Nichiren obviously knew that propagation of his teaching was about individual investment in what he Nichiren was also invested in, namely; the true teachings and the Buddha's own golden words. No school, sect or sangha could resist the human tendency to become authoritarian and to control teachings for "personal"financial gain.

The most important thing to know about Nichiren is that his teachings were based solely on the Lotus sutra and that he recognized and showed reverence for the Buddha who preached the Lotus sutra, Shakyamuni. No one has authority over Nichiren's teachings, but two specific sects have gone to great lengths to pretend to have this authority and to conceal the evidence that they are corrupting what Nichiren actually wrote and "lived"--

Everyone is capable of attaining what Nichiren himself attained, by returning to Nichiren-- Sharing this path and encouraging others to trust in their own capacity based on correct faith is my only goal--

~Katie

JazzIs TvRicky

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Nichiren Teaches:

"It is written that those who embrace the daimoku of the Lotus Sutra will be protected by Kishimojin and her ten daughters. They will enjoy the happiness of Aizen and the good fortune of Bishamon.2 Wherever your daughter may frolic or play, no harm will come to her; she will be free from fear like the lion king. Among Kishimojin's ten daughters, the protection of Kodainyo3 is the most profound.

But your faith alone will determine all these things. A sword will be useless in the hands of a coward. The mighty sword of the Lotus Sutra must be wielded by one courageous in faith. Then he will be as strong as a demon armed with an iron staff.

I, Nichiren, have inscribed my life in sumi,4 so believe in the Gohonzon with your whole heart. The Buddha's will is the Lotus Sutra, but the soul of Nichiren is nothing other than Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.

Miao-lo states in his interpretations, "The revelation of the Buddha's original enlightenment is the heart of the sutra."

http://nichiren.info/gosho/ReplyKyoo.htm

Katie Higgins

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Ricky, can you tell us what became of Shijo Kingo's daughter Kyo-o ?

~Katie

Katie Higgins

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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:06:10 AM UTC-4, Katie Higgins wrote:
> Ricky, can you tell us what became of Shijo Kingo's daughter Kyo-o ?
>
> ~Katie

??? well, ricky??

JazzIs TvRicky

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Google Gongyo anyway you like my revelation is everywhere!

A change is bout to come Soka Gakkai NST etc etc

Katie Higgins

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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 9:55:53 PM UTC-4, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> Google Gongyo anyway you like my revelation is everywhere!
>
> A change is bout to come Soka Gakkai NST etc etc

Bet it won't come as quickly as you change the subject when you can't answer a simple question :-)

~Katie

Chas.

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Katie Higgins

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On second thought---

Chas.

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What motivates Katie Higgins, Mark Rogow (Buku) and what the KGB calls their "useful idiots", Iain and now Noel and Ricky, to go on like this (aside from their inner demons cultivated by slandering the Law through chanting to statues and images), what causes them to attack the SGI so vigorously? They are connected to Nichiren Shu and Kempon Hokke and other temples and these temples are un-indicted co-conspirators in war crimes.

It's not just that their Nichiren Shu youth militia groups were the incendiary driving force behind the inner officer corps of the Imperial Japanese forces that pushed for expansion into the Asian Pacific War.

It's not just that their Nichiren Shu chaplains were on the front lines with those ravenous militias as they committed war crimes around the Asia Pacific, cheering them on and correcting their style of Zen beheading of innocents, and using bound captives for bayonet and other kinds of practice.

It's that at the very beginning, Nichiren Shu priests created the premise for invasion of China, they were the match that lit the conflagration.

They will deny the truth in their usual incendiary manner, but the two posts below quote many history books and you cannot deny the condemnation of history.

From: "Nichiren Shu (with Kempon Hokke Myomanji Sect) and the Asian Holocaust #1"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.zen/pfHcnbnjHus/B_RYwmkbCgAJ

and from "Nichiren Shu (with Kempon Hokke Myomanji Sect) and the Asian Holocaust #2"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.zen/QgGf39rK6jU/39hhlHcbCgAJ

So the answer to why they attack the SGI?

It's to cover up with flak the fact that Mr. Makiguchi died in prison, while Mr Toda spent the War in prison to be released at the end, for standing up the the imperial Way Buddhism and Imperial State Zen government perpetrating the Pacific War and its countless atrocities, which Nichiren Shu initiated, promulgated and rode the four horses of the Apocalypse straight through.

They can do no other than what they are doing to save the shreds of face that they still possess. That's why.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Aug 11me

"Gohonzon Shichi Ka So-Jo” Written by Nikko Shonin he asked Nichiren questions and Nikko records Nichiren's answer.
A rough, literal, translation.
①明星直見の本尊の事如何、師曰く末代の凡夫・幼稚の為に何者を以つて本尊とす可きと・虚空蔵菩薩に御祈請ありし時 "What is the meaning of 'The Gohonzon when seen in the evening star'?" Our master (Nichiren) says: "I was praying and vowing in front of Bodhisattva Kokuzo (Akasagarbha) to discern clearly what is the true object of devotion for us ignorant beings of mortal flesh"
②古僧示して言はく、汝等が身を以って本尊と為す可し・明星の池を見給えとの玉えば、即ち彼の池を見るに不思議なり日蓮 "at the time, a very talented and well-versed senior monk came and said to me, 'You should establish the object of devotion of the mortal flesh of yourself! Look at the surface of that pond reflecting under the evening star out there!' And I saw the pond that was very mystic!"
③が影・今の大曼荼羅なり云云、此の事を俊範法印に御物語りありしを法印讃歎して言く善哉云云・釈迦古僧に値い奉つて塔中に直受せるなり貴し貴しと讃め被れたり、日興は浪の上にゆられて見え給ひつる処の本尊の御形なりしをば能く能く似せ奉るなり、仍つて本尊書写の事・一向日興之を書写し奉る可き事勿論なるのみ。 "My shadow reflection (on the pond) was the Mandala of which I inscribe now! Right after that, I went and told another talented and well-versed senior monk named 'Shun' (or Toshi) about the stories of what I experienced at the pond, etc. He repeatedly said in a sincere manner: 'This is a good experience! This is a good experience for you! You've just met Sakyamuni and received the true object of devotion directly in the treasure tower!'"
I, Nikko, saw the shadow and the figure of my master, Nichiren, as the Honzon very clearly on the sea surface when I was on a small boat with him while the boat was rocking with the gentle motion of the waves on our way. Thus, I, Nikko, copy the Gohonzon of my master without even a little difference, which I believe it has to be so!"

Chas.

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To make it perfectly clear once more, Ricky, your treason towards Nichiren Daishonin, by promoting the download of internet pirated Gohonzon printouts, using images of Gohonzon stolen by the traitorous priests who betrayed the Daishonin after his death by turning his Buddhism into a statue worshiping cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of god almighty ... that treason of yours is not cloaked in the slightest by wrapping yourself in Gosho quotes taken from the website of the SGI you hate.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Noel writes


Origin of the word "Gongyo"

"The word Gongyo originated in ancient China; although nowadays it is more often used in Buddhism, it first appeared in the Taoism classic - Zhuang Zi. Its original meaning is "very hard and frequent walking/practice".

Chinese philosopher Zhuangzi abstracted and modified this word from an earlier classic of Taoism - Laozi's Tao Te Ching, in which it states:“上士闻道,勤而行之。”, which means taking effort and practicing. During the Sui and Tang dynasties, the buddhist philosophy developed dramatically in central China, and was influenced by Taoism. Chinese Buddhist philosophers borrowed this word from Taoism classics, and it spread to Korea, Japan, Vietnam with Buddhism."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_liturgy



Shōjin (精進)

Devotion

noun
devotion
献身, 信心, 帰依, 真心, 精進, 礼拝
diligence
勤勉, 精励, 勤怠, 精進, 丹念, 勉強
concentration
濃度, 集中, 濃厚, 結集, 専心, 精進
purification
精製, 浄化, 純化, 清め, 精進, 祓い


Otsutome (お勤め)

Work

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=japanese+translator&oq=japanese+translator&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l5.15682j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The meaning of Gongyo has come a long way from its original meaning "very hard and frequent walking/practice" to the stage where it is today when we follow its natural progression which is a practice that requires the components of Devotion,Diligence,Concentration,Purification and Work

Chanting Nam[u] Myoho Renge Kyo can be considered as having these key elements for the Latter Day of the Law interpretation of gongyo and when combined with Nichirens Gohonzon it becomes the sacred ceremony that is ritualistically carried out on a daily bases

Chas.

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Wrote this for Katie who is crazy rigid on the formality of gongyo. You are crazy rigid on NOT doing it and are also incredibly wrong.

Reciting the sutra AND THEN chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo with no other phrases of the Lotus Sutra mixed in, is exactly what Nichiren Daishonin is talking about in that quote..
___________________________________________________

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:28:37 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:

[snip]

Notice your evasive style in refusing to respond to my response to your evil declaration of Nichiren Daishonin as a liar:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/1fUX4H4ZIaw/V2HnNSsFBwAJ

> But- maybe all of your sideshows really are only effects from your egocentric approach to faith . So, once again I will direct you to the basics - Nichiren's declaring his devotion to the Lotus Sutra and his recommending daily recitation of the Hoben and Juryo chapters of the Lotus Sutra.

> Apparently Noel and co. don't focus much on the Buddha's golden words and have missed the emphasis Nichiren placed on each character , each word of the Lotus Sutra . I think you missed a very straightforward clear concise message regarding FAITH as the only portal to the wisdom of the Buddha -- maybe because you don't know what you're saying or perhaps you don't care to know? At the beginning of the Life Span chapter , Shakyamuni decides to continue preaching even though his disciples admit they cannot fathom the teachings Shakyamuni is sharing from his own enlightenment ; Shakyamuni continues because his disciples pledge three times to accept the Buddha's words with FAITH.
>

Another profoundly incorrect reading of the Gosho. Nichiren talked about reciting PART of the Hoben Chapter sometimes, but talked dozens of times (especially in the "Letter to Hōren") about reciting the 'verse section of the "Life Span" chapter', also known as the Ji-Gage, in many, many situations.

From "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", written in the "twelfth year of Bun’ei (1275)", well after the Gohonzon has emerged and been propagated as the "supreme object of devotion in all of Jambudvipa", WND I, p.486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0

... I have written out the prose section of the “Expedient
... Means” chapter for you. You should recite it together with
... the verse portion of the “Life Span” chapter, which I sent
... you earlier.

Much earlier (on the seventeenth day of the fourth month in the first year of Bun’ei in 1264, well before the emergence of the Gohonzon as the object of devotion) at the beginning of a Gosho letter to the wife of Daigaku Saburō who was mistakenly chanting Namu-ichijō-myōten for about two and a half hours a day to the cover of the Lotus Sutra, Nichiren Daishonin suggests it would be better to recite the Hoben and Juryo chapters, and he does not say in part, implying all the prose and the verse sections. However, at the end of the letter he states his final guidance:

In the Gosho letter: 'The Recitation of the "Expedient Means" and "Life Span" Chapters', WND I, p. 72:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/9#para-26

... On this basis, even if your menstrual period should last as
... long as seven days, if you feel so inclined, DISPENSE WITH
... THE READING OF THE SUTRA AND SIMPLY RECITE
... NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. Also, when making your devotions, you
... need not bow facing the sutra.

He states this again clearly in "The Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 143:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/14#para-19

... To accept, uphold, read, recite, take delight in, and
... protect all the eight volumes and twenty-eight chapters of
... the Lotus Sutra is called the comprehensive practice. TO
... ACCEPT, UPHOLD, AND PROTECT THE “EXPEDIENT MEANS” CHAPTER
... AND THE “LIFE SPAN” CHAPTER IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED
... PRACTICE. And simply to chant one four-phrase verse or the
... daimoku, and to protect those who do so, is called the
... essential practice. HENCE, AMONG THESE THREE KINDS OF
... PRACTICE, COMPREHENSIVE, ABBREVIATED, AND ESSENTIAL, THE
... DAIMOKU IS DEFINED AS THE ESSENTIAL PRACTICE.

In particular, this shows that Nichiren Daishonin's "essential practice" is chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, and reciting gongyo is a formality, although one I love dearly.

Your statements are CLEARLY IN ERROR, once again Katie Higgins.

There is a line from the "Life Span" chapter that you should think about: "Ga hon gyo bosatsu do", which means "originally I practiced the bodhisattva way", he's referring to his time spent with his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and his 15 brothers in the remote past

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/16#para-14

Here is the passage from the Lotus Sutra, where Shakyamuni quotes his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One talking about the family's Kosen Rufu enterprise:

From the Lotus Sutra, Chapter 7, "Parable of the Phantom City", pp.172-173:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-282

... “You monks, I will now tell you this. These disciples of
... the buddha, these sixteen shramaneras, have now all
... attained supreme perfect enlightenment. In the lands in the
... ten directions they are at present preaching the Law, with
... immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions
... of bodhisattvas and voice-hearers for their retinues. Two
... of these shramaneras have become buddhas in the eastern
... region. One is named Akshobhya and lives in the Land of
... Joy. The other is named Sumeru Peak. Two are buddhas in the
... southeastern region, one named Lion Voice, the other named
... Lion Appearance. Two are buddhas in the southern region,
... one named Void-Dwelling, the other named Ever Extinguished.
... Two are buddhas in the southwestern region, one named
... Emperor Appearance, the other named Brahma Appearance. Two
... are buddhas in the western region, one named Amitayus, the
... other named Saving All from Worldly Suffering. Two are
... buddhas in the northwestern region, one named Tamala Leaf
... Sandalwood Fragrance Transcendental Power, the other named
... Sumeru Appearance. Two are buddhas in the northern region,
... one named Cloud Freedom, the other named Cloud Freedom
... King. Of the buddhas of the northeastern region, one is
... named Destroying All Worldly Fears. THE SIXTEENTH IS I,
... SHAKYAMUNI BUDDHA, WHO IN THIS SAHA LAND HAVE ATTAINED
... SUPREME PERFECT ENLIGHTENMENT.

Did the grandfather have sons other than the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One? It is not stated. What is clear is that Shakyamuni is not the entirety of the effort, there are others involved in this enterprise.

So, your statue-worshiping practice of deifying Shakyamuni as God Almighty is made into a great lie by the Lotus Sutra, as preached by Shakyamuni.

In his human form he can only be your God of Gods above all, if he is a great liar, which he is not.

In fact, he is only human, like the rest of us and part of a great enterprise, like the rest of us. And the true entity that we share in that enterprise of Kosen Rufu, has the actual name of "Myoho-Renge", NOT Shakyamuni, NOT Nichiren Daishonin, nor anyone else that is an impermanent human being: according to Nichiren Daishonin.

[snip the rest]

Ricky, deny that Nichiren Daishonin did gongyo recitation of the Lotus Sutra as a daily practice at your LYING PERIL. He also asked his followers to do a daily practice, or chant daimoku if they could not. LIE ABOUT THAT AT YOUR PERIL.

-Chas.

Noel

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Have you read the Dialogue concerning Gongyo at Dharma wheel?

Chas.

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No, nor will I. Whatever you want to say to me, put into clear text, not a corrupted website URL.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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No he has'nt Noel. Look at what he quotes above which verifies the efficacy of the Daimoku My yet he like the typical Cult follower is blind to Nichiren's Teachings. Chas is one of SGI's House Negro's!

Noel

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On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 4:23:13 PM UTC+10, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> No he hasn't Noel. Look at what he quotes above which verifies the efficacy of the Daimoku My yet he like the typical Cult follower is blind to Nichiren's Teachings. Chas is one of SGI's House Negro's!

If Chas had read the dialogue concerning Gongyo at Dharma wheel I doubt that he would have said this:

>Ricky, deny that Nichiren Daishonin did gongyo recitation of the Lotus Sutra as a daily practice at your LYING PERIL. He also asked his followers to do a daily practice, or chant daimoku if they could not. LIE ABOUT THAT AT YOUR PERIL"

________________________________________________________________________________
From above

"He states this again clearly in "The Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 143:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/14#para-19

... To accept, uphold, read, recite, take delight in, and
... protect all the eight volumes and twenty-eight chapters of
... the Lotus Sutra is called the comprehensive practice. TO
... ACCEPT, UPHOLD, AND PROTECT THE “EXPEDIENT MEANS” CHAPTER
... AND THE “LIFE SPAN” CHAPTER IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED
... PRACTICE. And simply to chant one four-phrase verse or the
... daimoku, and to protect those who do so, is called the
... essential practice. HENCE, AMONG THESE THREE KINDS OF
... PRACTICE, COMPREHENSIVE, ABBREVIATED, AND ESSENTIAL, THE
... DAIMOKU IS DEFINED AS THE ESSENTIAL PRACTICE.

In particular, this shows that Nichiren Daishonin's "essential practice" is chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, and reciting gongyo is a formality, although one I love dearly."

Chas has deducted from reading Nichiren's Gosho that the essential practice is chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and reciting gongyo is a formality which means it is something that has to be done but has no real importance, although he loves it dearly. Hmmmm!

Noel

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Nichiren conversed and converted those from other sects. Why do you treat them with such disdain and consider Dharma Wheel such a corrupted website URL that you wont even talk to them on their turf or would you perhaps prefer them to come here on an unmoderated Nichiren site where gloves are off and share their views on Nichiren Buddhism?

JazzIs TvRicky

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Buddhism is not a religion of exclusion Chas. The opportunity to perform Shakubuku exist everywhere.

How deeply the poison of SGI has penetrated into your soul!

Jigyo Keta is no longer apart of your Corporate made up Soka Religion of Master Slave.

You have crawled back to the Plantation Chas and have freely chained your life to the Slander of Nichiren's Teachings

Wake up idiot!👀

Chas.

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No, that is not what "formality" means. a formality is changeable and not essential, hence AC:AM + AC:PM for 5 minutes each, instead of AC-ABC-AC-AC-AC:AM + ABC-AC-AC:PM for 30 minutes + 15 minutes. And nowadays, youth leaders skip gongyo every once in a while when the situation warrants. Not me, of course, I haven't missed a gongyo in 18 years.

-Chas.

Chas.

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I'm not Nichiren Daishonin, and I would not be foolish enough to try to be.

I follow Nikko Shonin, precisely because Nichiren Daishonin directed his followers to do so.

I do not wander into evil places like corrupt temples, etc. "even even if only to have a look around," because Nikko Shonin enjoins me from such activities (Admonitions 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 26.)

More specifically,

6. Lay believers should be strictly prohibited from visiting [heretical] temples and shrines. Moreover, priests should not visit slanderous temples or shrines, which are inhabited by demons, even if only to have a look around. To do so would be a pitiful violation [of the Daishonin's Buddhism.] This is not my own personal view; it wholly derives from the sutras [of Shakyamuni] and the writings [of Nichiren Daishonin].

21. You should not sit together with slanderers of the Law [at religious ceremonies] for fear of suffering the same punishment as they.

22. You must not accept offerings from slanderers of the Law.

Here are the rest:
___________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________

Listed from President Ikeda on Nikko's 26 Admonitions: (from Living Buddhism 4/1998)

These articles of warning were originally intended for priests. Nonetheless, we in the SGI, awakened [to our mission] as Bodhisattvas of the Earth, have strictly put these admonitions into practice.

President Toda composed and dedicated the following poem to youth:

..... You, young people,
..... engraving in your hearts
..... the twenty-six precepts,
..... dedicate your lives
..... to the path of the Mystic Law.

The "twenty-six precepts" in this poem refers to Nikko Shonin's twenty-six warning articles. President Toda urged young people to struggle for kosen-rufu, just as the second high priest admonished, with the spirit of not begrudging their lives.

Nikko Shonin's 26 Admonitions:

I will here set forth some articles for the sake of later students of Buddhism. This is solely because I treasure the [Daishonin's] golden words regarding kosen- rufu.

1. The doctrines of the Fuji school must not differ in the least from the teachings of the late master.

2. The doctrines of the five senior priests differ in every regard from the teachings of the late master.

3. There will [in the future] appear persons who slander our school, saying that the Gosho are forged writings. You must not associate with such evil priests.

4. Those who produce forged writings and say that they are Gosho, or who practice with the view that the essential and theoretical teachings [of the Lotus Sutra] are the same, are parasites in the lion's body.

5. You should refrain from indulging in poetry or non- Buddhist works, or from engaging in idleness and chatter without [having the aim of] rebuking slander.

6. Lay believers should be strictly prohibited from visiting [heretical] temples and shrines. Moreover, priests should not visit slanderous temples or shrines, which are inhabited by demons, even if only to have a look around. To do so would be a pitiful violation [of the Daishonin's Buddhism.] This is not my own personal view; it wholly derives from the sutras [of Shakyamuni] and the writings [of Nichiren Daishonin].

7. Disciples of ability should be allowed to devote themselves to the study of the Gosho and other doctrines of Buddhism, without being pressed to perform miscellaneous services for their teachers.

8. Those of insufficient learning who are bent on obtaining fame and fortune are not qualified to call themselves my followers.

9. Until they are well versed in the difference between the provisional and true teachings, followers of later generations should visit this temple, setting aside the debt of gratitude they owe to their parents and teachers, and undertake various studies in order to free themselves [from the sufferings of birth and death] and attain the Way.

10. Unless you have a thorough understanding of and firm faith in the teachings [of Nichiren Daishonin], you should not study T'ien-t'ai's doctrines.

11. Followers of this school should engrave the teachings of the Gosho in their lives and thereby inherit the ultimate principles expounded by the master. Then, if they have any leisure time, they should inquire into the doctrine of the T'ien-t'ai school.

12. You should be inclined to engage in discussion or deliver lectures [on Buddhism], and you should refrain from pursuing secular concerns.

13. Until kosen-rufu is achieved, propagate the Law to the full extent of your ability without begrudging your life.

14. As for practitioners who treasure the Law more highly than their own lives, even if they are but humble teachers of the Law, you must hold them in great esteem, revering them as you would the Buddha.

15. You should revere a teacher of the Law who engages in its propagation as a sacred priest, even though he may be your junior.

16. Even though they may be lowly, you should deeply respect and regard as your teachers those whose understanding of Buddhism surpasses your own.

17. Do not follow even the high priest if he goes against the Buddha's Law and propounds his own views.

18. Even if a view is set forth unanimously by a conference [of believers], the high priest should repudiate it if it goes against the Buddha's Law.

19. Black robes should not be worn [by priests].

20. Jikitotsu should not be worn [by priests].

21. You should not sit together with slanderers of the Law [at religious ceremonies] for fear of suffering the same punishment as they.

22. You must not accept offerings from slanderers of the Law.

23. Carrying a sword or staff in order to protect the Buddhist Law is permissible. However, [weapons] should not be worn when presiding over religious services, though accompanying priests may be permitted to carry them [to protect themselves and others].

24. [At religious ceremonies] young acolytes should not occupy seats lower than those of high-ranking lay followers.

25. My disciples should conduct themselves as holy priests, patterning their behavior after that of the late master. However, even if a high priest or a priest striving for practice and understanding should temporarily deviate from [the principle of] sexual abstinence, he may still be allowed to remain in the priesthood [as a common priest without rank].

26. You should treasure those practitioners who are skilled in difficult debate, just as the late master did.

I have set forth these 26 articles for the sake of the eternal salvation and protection of humankind. Those who violate even one of these articles cannot be called disciples of Nikko.

thirteenth day of the first month of the third year of the Genko era (1333).
Nikko(Seal)

Note: THE Fuji school is the line of Nikko Shonin's followers. The "late master" is Nichiren Daishonin.

From Living Buddhism 4/1998, full article original at:
http://nichiren.info/buddhism/library/SokaGakkai/Study/26Adm/

JazzIs TvRicky

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And that shows you have no faith in The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo because you also teach beginners to recite Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra primarily and to Chant Daimoku secondarily. Which is against Nichiren's Teachings!

Lie and say your Cult dose not do so!

Chas.

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On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 7:33:03 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> And that shows you have no faith in The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo because you also teach beginners to recite Shakyamuni's Lotus Sutra primarily and to Chant Daimoku secondarily. Which is against Nichiren's Teachings!
>
> Lie and say your Cult dose not do so!

-Another profoundly incorrect reading of the Gosho. Nichiren talked about reciting PART of the Hoben Chapter sometimes, but talked dozens of times (especially in the "Letter to Hōren") about reciting the 'verse section of the "Life Span" chapter', also known as the Ji-Gage, in many, many situations.

-From "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", written in the "twelfth year of Bun’ei (1275)", well after the Gohonzon has emerged and been propagated as the "supreme object of devotion in all of Jambudvipa", WND I, p.486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0

.. I have written out the prose section of the “Expedient
.. Means” chapter for you. You should recite it together with
.. the verse portion of the “Life Span” chapter, which I sent
.. you earlier.

-Much earlier (on the seventeenth day of the fourth month in the first year of Bun’ei in 1264, well before the emergence of the Gohonzon as the object of devotion) at the beginning of a Gosho letter to the wife of Daigaku Saburō who was mistakenly chanting Namu-ichijō-myōten for about two and a half hours a day to the cover of the Lotus Sutra, Nichiren Daishonin suggests it would be better to recite the Hoben and Juryo chapters, and he does not say in part, implying all the prose and the verse sections. However, at the end of the letter he states his final guidance:

-In the Gosho letter: 'The Recitation of the "Expedient Means" and "Life Span" Chapters', WND I, p. 72:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/9#para-26

.. On this basis, even if your menstrual period should last as
.. long as seven days, if you feel so inclined, DISPENSE WITH
.. THE READING OF THE SUTRA AND SIMPLY RECITE
.. NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. Also, when making your devotions, you
.. need not bow facing the sutra.

-He states this again clearly in "The Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 143:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/14#para-19

.. To accept, uphold, read, recite, take delight in, and
.. protect all the eight volumes and twenty-eight chapters of
.. the Lotus Sutra is called the comprehensive practice. TO
.. ACCEPT, UPHOLD, AND PROTECT THE “EXPEDIENT MEANS” CHAPTER
.. AND THE “LIFE SPAN” CHAPTER IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED
.. PRACTICE. And simply to chant one four-phrase verse or the
.. daimoku, and to protect those who do so, is called the
.. essential practice. HENCE, AMONG THESE THREE KINDS OF
.. PRACTICE, COMPREHENSIVE, ABBREVIATED, AND ESSENTIAL, THE
.. DAIMOKU IS DEFINED AS THE ESSENTIAL PRACTICE.

-In particular, this shows that Nichiren Daishonin's "essential practice" is chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, and reciting gongyo is a formality, although one I love dearly.

-Your statements are CLEARLY IN ERROR, once again Katie Higgins.

-There is a line from the "Life Span" chapter that you should think about: "Ga hon gyo bosatsu do", which means "originally I practiced the bodhisattva way", he's referring to his time spent with his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and his 15 brothers in the remote past

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/16#para-14

-Here is the passage from the Lotus Sutra, where Shakyamuni quotes his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One talking about the family's Kosen Rufu enterprise:

-From the Lotus Sutra, Chapter 7, "Parable of the Phantom City", pp.172-173:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-282

.. “You monks, I will now tell you this. These disciples of
.. the buddha, these sixteen shramaneras, have now all
.. attained supreme perfect enlightenment. In the lands in the
.. ten directions they are at present preaching the Law, with
.. immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions
.. of bodhisattvas and voice-hearers for their retinues. Two
.. of these shramaneras have become buddhas in the eastern
.. region. One is named Akshobhya and lives in the Land of
.. Joy. The other is named Sumeru Peak. Two are buddhas in the
.. southeastern region, one named Lion Voice, the other named
.. Lion Appearance. Two are buddhas in the southern region,
.. one named Void-Dwelling, the other named Ever Extinguished.
.. Two are buddhas in the southwestern region, one named
.. Emperor Appearance, the other named Brahma Appearance. Two
.. are buddhas in the western region, one named Amitayus, the
.. other named Saving All from Worldly Suffering. Two are
.. buddhas in the northwestern region, one named Tamala Leaf
.. Sandalwood Fragrance Transcendental Power, the other named
.. Sumeru Appearance. Two are buddhas in the northern region,
.. one named Cloud Freedom, the other named Cloud Freedom
.. King. Of the buddhas of the northeastern region, one is
.. named Destroying All Worldly Fears. THE SIXTEENTH IS I,
.. SHAKYAMUNI BUDDHA, WHO IN THIS SAHA LAND HAVE ATTAINED
.. SUPREME PERFECT ENLIGHTENMENT.

-Did the grandfather have sons other than the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One? It is not stated. What is clear is that Shakyamuni is not the entirety of the effort, there are others involved in this enterprise.

-So, your statue-worshiping practice of deifying Shakyamuni as God Almighty is made into a great lie by the Lotus Sutra, as preached by Shakyamuni.

-In his human form he can only be your God of Gods above all, if he is a great liar, which he is not.

-In fact, he is only human, like the rest of us and part of a great enterprise, like the rest of us. And the true entity that we share in that enterprise of Kosen Rufu, has the actual name of "Myoho-Renge", NOT Shakyamuni, NOT Nichiren Daishonin, nor anyone else that is an impermanent human being: according to Nichiren Daishonin.

-[snip the rest]

-Ricky, deny that Nichiren Daishonin did gongyo recitation of the Lotus Sutra as a daily practice at your LYING PERIL. He also asked his followers to do a daily practice, or chant daimoku if they could not. LIE ABOUT THAT AT YOUR PERIL.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Chas you are so off my friend! I have thoroughly dealt with this very important Doctrinal Question which you pretend to not have visited. Go waste someone else's' stoke with your elementary grade study level!

All my answers to Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects is found here!

https://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?t=23047

You are so delusional and very inept in your comphrehension of The True Buddhas Teachings!

Get of your behind and learn how to truly read Nichiren's Teachings before you approach me with your elementary level nonsense!

Chas.

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Your answers are irrelevant.

Nichiren's answers are the only ones that anyone who practices Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism should take note of.

I'll point you back to his answers above your distorted self-aggrandizing last posting:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/XpBlCbpVZ2w/AD7-tISjAgAJ

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Chas.

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Ricky Is The Laziest Babbling Fraud In Nichiren Buddhism, EVER! +

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:45:52 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:

[snip]

> No where in Nichiren’s Post Sado Teachings dose he equate the Recitation of Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra with “Faith”!
>
> As I have said in the Debate on Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects” your affinity towards Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra is proof of your lack of Faith in The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!
>
> The Guilt Teachings of Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects is evident in your insistence of going against Nichiren’s Teachings and promoting the sell of Gongyo Books which your SGI-USA CULT changes often and regularly!
>

[snip]

>
> You are a deceptive and devious Slanderer if Nichiren’s Teachings Chas
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨‍🏫 of The Law

As pre-Sado Island teachings go, they are illustrative of the supplemental practice Nichiren Daishonin continued to his death (recitation of part of the Hoben chapter and the Jigage verse section of the Juryo chapter), so I am getting it right and conversely it is you, Ricky who are the fraud.

Here are the Gosho passages refuting your ignorant rantings. In all of these post-Sado writings Nichiren Daishonin discusses doing gongyo as a filial act in appreciation of the Lotus Sutra and Shakyamuni Buddha who preached it (as the supplementary and not as the primary practice):

In 1275, "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", WND I, p. 486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0

In 1275, "Letter to Hōren", WND I, p. 513, again on p. 516, again on p. 517, and finally on p. 518:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-74
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-95
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-104
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-105

In 1275, "New Year’s Greeting", WND II, p. 530:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/243#para-1

In 1276, "The Fourteen Slanders", WND I, p. 756:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/92#para-4

In his 1276 autobiography of the Sado history, "The Actions of the Votary of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 768:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/93#para-25

In 1280, "On Filial and Unfilial Conduct", WND I p. 1033:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/146#para-0

In 1280, "White Horses and White Swans", WND I, p. 1066 second paragraph, and again on the same page, fourth paragraph:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-1
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-3

Finally, at the end of 1280 and less than two years before his death, "Reply to the Mother of Ueno", WND I, p. 1072:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/154#para-0

The fact that you have made destroying Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Gongyo your cause celebre and that second fact that Nichiren Daishonin's own writings utterly refute you over and over, exposes the third fact that YOU, RICKY, ARE UNIQUE AS THE SINGLE LAZIEST BABBLING FRAUDULENT COMMENTATOR ON THE SUBJECT OF NICHIREN DAISHONIN'S PRACTICE OF THE BUDDHISM OF THE LOTUS SUTRA, EVER!

-Chas.
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 10:56:27 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> DAVE your presentations are more than welcome for instance: Nichiren The Buddhist Prophet is a most enlightening work so much valuable information and truly a work capturing Nichiren Daishonin’s Spirit of Faith!
>
> Thank you for taking the time to share and inform those of us who are not intimidated by those who have valuable contributions to the Spread of Nichiren Daishonin’s Teachings
>
> Sincerely Richard

Ricky, your attempts to deflect won't work. Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ

Let's see if you can respond intelligently this time.

-Chas.
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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 9:27:56 AM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> My position on Gongyo is Nichiren’s Teachings not mine your ignorance of Nichiren’s Teachings are not my fault Chas your lack of capacity in Study is grounded in prejudice and habit!
>
> Gongyo is your Gohonzon not The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo! Which you and Your Soka Cult now deny as necessary in the practice of Nichiren Daishonin’s Buddhism! How pitiful
>

Actually, as I have demonstrated in detail above:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ

Your position on Gongyo REQUIRES THAT YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE NICHIREN DAISHONIN"S TEACHINGS.

Your foolishness based solely upon your blatant and blind, willful ignorance is your trademark, Ricky.

-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 8:18:34 PM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> Chas the Gohonzon Burner and Statue Worshippers Guru! Nichiren is not God Chas. Read his teachings and stop with the deification off Shayamuni’s Lotus Sutra!

Now you have REALLY gone around the bend, Ricky. (1) I would be the last person in the world to do the dishonor to ANY HUMAN BEING by deifying them: which to me really means dehumanizing them. There are of course a large number of people who stand against deification of any sort, but I say that I would be the VERY LAST ONE (2) simply because it is in my nature to ignore social pressure of any sort. And that goes all the way back to my childhood. Finally (3) I think you have to be a nice person (the opposite of a hater) to want to make a God out of someone, and I am CLEARLY NOT A NICE PERSON.

Hence your current theorem about me does not pass the initial inspection by any 12-year-old, and what does that say about you?

-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:

[snip]

> I am A Thus Come One!
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨‍🏫 of The Law

While it is clear from Nichiren Daishonin that the common mortal is the true Buddha, it is also clear from your laziness and utter foolishness that you are not a "Teacher of the Law", nor are you a "Thus Come One" and you are extremely unlikely to become one in this lifetime.

I do, however, predict in a vastly distant future that you will become that kind of great Buddha by virtue of your extremely poison drum relationship with the Lotus Sutra, your absolute hatred of Nichiren Daishonin and his teachings and your animus towards the Kosen Rufu movement in the SGI.

-Chas.
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nyoz...@gmail.com

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Everyone of your references are for Preist, Funerals or Memorials please quit trying to dupe others who are not trained or well versed in Nichiren Daishonin’s Teachings!

Such is what your Ikeda SGI CULT DOSE

Chas.

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Deflecting won't work. Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/XpBlCbpVZ2w/Ym9TxDpDAQAJ

To make it perfectly clear yet again, Ricky, your treason towards Nichiren Daishonin, by promoting the download of internet pirated Gohonzon printouts, using images of Gohonzon stolen by the traitorous priests who betrayed the Daishonin after his death by turning his Buddhism into a statue worshiping cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of god almighty ... that treason of yours is not cloaked in the slightest by wrapping yourself in Gosho quotes taken from the website of the SGI you hate. Making up new Buddhism is pretending that you are Nichiren Daishonin without the scholarship he practiced from his early youth. That cannot be repeated, because a lot of what he read in those temple libraries is gone, burned during the Islamic conquest of India, Mao's destruction of the temples in China and Nobunaga and Hideyoshi's destruction of the temples, like Enryakuji, in Japan. You are not Nichiren Daishonin and no one can ever be like him again.

We'll see if you can respond intelligently, at some point.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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Who?

Chas.

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Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/f57xtj81RVk/fkp7oKHhAgAJ

To make it perfectly clear one more time, Ricky, your treason towards Nichiren Daishonin, by promoting the download of internet pirated Gohonzon printouts, using images of Gohonzon stolen by the traitorous priests who betrayed the Daishonin after his death by turning his Buddhism into a statue worshiping cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of god almighty ... that treason of yours is not cloaked in the slightest by wrapping yourself in Gosho quotes taken from the website of the SGI you hate. Making up new Buddhism is pretending that you are Nichiren Daishonin without the scholarship he practiced from his early youth. That cannot be repeated, because a lot of what he read in those temple libraries is gone, burned during the Islamic conquest of India, Mao's destruction of the temples in China and Nobunaga and Hideyoshi's destruction of the temples, like Enryakuji, in Japan. You are not Nichiren Daishonin and no one can ever be like him again. Both the source material serving as reference material for many of his thoughts, and the environment behind the forging of the steely character of his mind are gone forever.

Let's just see if you can respond intelligently this time.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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FYI

Chas.

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On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:39:41 PM UTC-8, Noel wrote:
> When ALL of the SGI-haters ALL stop posting their lies and hate against the SGI members and Sensei ... then I will stop responding to that hate speech with rebukes. And then I will cut down the cycle of repeat to a lower threshold.
>
>
> When I post some Edifying gosho of Nichiren without anything else you will respond with personal vindictive criticism instead of looking at the Gosho and speaking of the goodness of it
>
> You need to deal with your own hate first and lead by example if you ever hope to correct others Chas

Your hate must cease first, and by your I mean ALL OF YOU. Then my rebukes will lessen to a trickle. Not before. I am not a Christian, I do not turn the other cheek.

-Chas.

Noel

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Chas: When ALL of the SGI-haters ALL stop posting their lies and hate against the SGI members and Sensei ... then I will stop responding to that hate speech with rebukes. And then I will cut down the cycle of repeat to a lower threshold.

Noel: When I post some Edifying gosho of Nichiren without anything else you will respond with personal vindictive criticism instead of looking at the Gosho and speaking of the goodness of it. You need to deal with your own hate first and lead by example if you ever hope to correct others Chas.

Chas: Your hate must cease first, and by your I mean ALL OF YOU. Then my rebukes will lessen to a trickle. Not before. I am not a Christian, I do not turn the other cheek.

Noel: Nor are you in the league of Bodhisattva Never Disparaging whom exemplifies the spirit of the Lotus Sutra


“Bodhisattva Never Disparaging” chapter [常不軽菩薩品] ( Jōfukyō-bosatsu-hon): Abbreviated as the “Never Disparaging” chapter. The twentieth chapter of the Lotus Sutra, in which Shakyamuni illustrates, with the story of Bodhisattva Never Disparaging, both the benefit of embracing and practicing the Lotus Sutra and the gravity of retribution for slandering its votaries.

The chapter describes this Bodhisattva as having lived in the Middle Day of the Law after the death of a Buddha named Awesome Sound King, at a time when arrogant monks held great authority and power.

Never Disparaging venerated all people, repeating the phrase “I have profound reverence for you, I would never dare treat you with disparagement or arrogance. Why? Because you will all practice the Bodhisattva way and will then be able to attain Buddhahood.”


Monks, nuns, laymen, and laywomen mocked him and attacked him with staves and stones. Bodhisattva Never Disparaging, however, persevered in his practice and achieved purification of his six senses through the benefit of the Lotus Sutra. When the arrogant clerics and laypersons who had treated Never Disparaging with ridicule and contempt heard his preaching and saw that he had purified his senses, they all took faith in him and became his followers.

But due to their past offenses of treating him with animosity, they did not encounter a Buddha, hear of the Law, or see the community of monks for two hundred million kalpas. For a thousand kalpas, they underwent great suffering in the Avīchi hell. After they had finished paying for their offenses, they again encountered Bodhisattva Never Disparaging and received instruction from him in attaining supreme perfect enlightenment.


This story illustrates the principle of attaining enlightenment through a reverse relationship, or the connection established with the correct teaching through rejecting or slandering it. It illustrates the great power of the Lotus Sutra to save even those who oppose or slander it.

Shakyamuni identifies Bodhisattva Never Disparaging as himself in a past existence and reveals that those who disparaged him are present in the assembly of the Lotus Sutra on Eagle Peak.

Shakyamuni further states that these people are now at the stage of practice where they will never regress in their pursuit of supreme perfect enlightenment. He then urges that the Lotus Sutra be single-mindedly embraced and propagated after his death."

Noel

Chas.

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I am being totally honest with you, you might not recognize that being such a source of lies and distortions.

Look, the Kosen Rufu movement of the SGI IS THE VOTARY OF THE LOTUS SUTRA IN THIS WORLD. As such, the votary of the Lotus Sutra is subject to persecution, abuse, injustice, and relentless attacks from many sources and vectors: this is predicted by Shakyamuni in the Lotus Sutra and by Nichiren Daishonin in the Gosho. Thus, how could it happen to be otherwise?

Whereas, you all only have to fear rebuttal and refutation from me. Talk about asymmetric warfare!

In spite of the asymmetry, you all moan like Al Qaeda and ISIS suffering from drone strikes and precision bombing. I am not the USAF. You are all still standing, although your arguments are in ruins.

Grow up. Stop whining. My daily posts are in the low tens. When I came on, Bratcher was posting hate and lies against Sensei and the SGI many hundreds of times a day.

Here's an offer:

When ALL of the SGI-haters (Mark Rogow, Katie Higgins, David Cole, Jon Petry, Alex, Iain Dewar, Mark Strumpf, John Ayres, Noel, Ricky, Bridgett Cash, Judy Scobee, Chris Holte, Andy Hanlen, Robin Beck, Brian Holly, Reginald Carpenter, Denise Gold, Craig Bratcher, Derek Juhl, Michael Cody, Mark Porter AND ANY NEW SGI-HATERS, OR OLD SGI-HATERS UNDER PSEUDONYMS) ALL stop posting their lies and hate against the SGI members and Sensei ... then I will stop responding to that hate speech with rebukes. And then I will cut down the cycle of repeat to a lower threshold.

-Chas.

JazzIs TvRicky

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For your information😊

Chas.

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Sticking to the Nichiren Shoshu views, translations and distortions is deleterious to your mental health, Ricky +

I would remind you that Nichiren Daishonin in many, many writings declares that the Lotus Sutra is the true teaching and supreme over all others preached before or after the Lotus Sutra was preached. Furthermore, Nichiren Daishonin declared that all other teachings are thus expedient teachings, and that includes his Gosho and anything else written after, which then means that those writings must bow to the Lotus Sutra and not call it a liar. Every chapter of the Lotus Sutra has the title of the Law, which one would you throw out with the trash?

Here, Nichiren Daishonin puts that matter to rest:

From "Embracing the Lotus Sutra," WND I, p. 57: .
https://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/8#para-15

... And the Great Teacher Miao-lo stated: “Though other sutras
... may call themselves the king among sutras, THERE IS NONE
... THAT ANNOUNCES ITSELF AS FOREMOST AMONG ALL THE SUTRAS
... PREACHED IN THE PAST, NOW BEING PREACHED, OR TO BE PREACHED
... IN THE FUTURE. Thus one should understand them according to
... the principle of ‘combining, excluding, corresponding, and
... including.’” This passage of commentary is saying in
... essence that EVEN IF THERE SHOULD BE A SUTRA THAT CALLS
... ITSELF THE KING OF SUTRAS, IF IT DOES NOT ALSO DECLARE
... ITSELF SUPERIOR TO THOSE PREACHED BEFORE IT AND THOSE TO BE
... PREACHED AFTER, THEN ONE SHOULD KNOW THAT IT IS A SUTRA
... BELONGING TO THE EXPEDIENT TEACHINGS.

And at the end of this passage, he declares that people maintaining this Nichiren Shoshu view are off-base, to put it mildly:

From: "On Establishing the Four Bodhisattvas as the Object of Devotion", WND, p. 978
https://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/134#para-10

... You also mentioned in your letter that the people
... connected with Ota Jomyo are apparently saying that the
... theoretical teaching of the Lotus Sutra can in no way
... lead to enlightenment. They are making a serious
... mistake. Remember this about the theoretical and
... essential teachings of the Lotus Sutra: Which is shallow
... and which profound, which superior and which inferior,
... which lenient and which severe, and which subordinate
... and which primary must be judged in accordance with the
... time and the people's capacity. There are three periods
... in which the sacred teachings of the Buddha's lifetime
... should be propagated; the people's capacity should be
... thought of in the same way.
...
... In the first five hundred years of the Former Day of the
... Law following the Buddha's passing, only Hinayana
... teachings spread, while in the next five hundred years,
... provisional Mahayana teachings spread. The thousand
... years of the Middle Day of the Law saw the rise of the
... theoretical teaching. IN THE BEGINNING OF THE LATTER DAY
... OF THE LAW, ONLY THE ESSENTIAL TEACHING SPREADS, BUT
... EVEN SO, THE THEORETICAL TEACHING SHOULD NOT BE
... DISCARDED. NOWHERE IN THE ENTIRE LOTUS SUTRA DO WE FIND
... A PASSAGE SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD DISCARD THE FIRST
... FOURTEEN CHAPTERS, WHICH COMPRISE THE THEORETICAL
... TEACHING. When we distinguish between the theoretical
... and the essential teachings on the basis of the
... threefold classification of the entire body of the
... Buddha's teachings, the pre-Lotus Sutra teachings were
... to be spread in the Former Day, and the theoretical
... teaching, in the Middle Day, but the Latter Day is the
... time to propagate the essential teaching. IN THE PRESENT
... PERIOD THE ESSENTIAL TEACHING IS PRIMARY, WHILE THE
... THEORETICAL TEACHING IS SUBORDINATE. BUT THOSE WHO
... THEREFORE DISCARD THE LATTER, SAYING IT IS NOT THE WAY
... TO ENLIGHTENMENT, AND BELIEVE ONLY IN THE FORMER, HAVE
... NOT YET UNDERSTOOD THE DOCTRINE OF NICHIREN'S TRUE
... INTENTION. THEIRS IS A COMPLETELY DISTORTED VIEW.
...
... THIS DOCTRINE CONCERNING THE THEORETICAL AND ESSENTIAL
... TEACHINGS IS NOT MY OWN [BUT WAS EXPOUNDED BY THE
... BUDDHA]. THOSE WHO WOULD DISTORT IT CAN ONLY BE
... POSSESSED BY THE HEAVENLY DEVIL, OR PAPIYAS, AND WILL
... TOPPLE OTHERS ALONG WITH THEMSELVES INTO THE GREAT
... CITADEL OF THE HELL OF INCESSANT SUFFERING. HOW FOOLISH
... THEY ARE! Teach this doctrine to others clearly as I
... have taught you these many years. Those who call
... themselves my disciples and practice the Lotus Sutra
... should all practice as I do. If they do, Shakyamuni,
... Many Treasures, Shakyamuni's emanations throughout the
... ten directions, and the ten demon daughters will protect
... them. Yet, for all that, [some people associated with
... Ota Jomyo distort the teaching]. I CANNOT FATHOM WHAT
... COULD BE IN THEIR MINDS.

Also, that Nichiren Shoshu translation of the Lotus Sutra passage is inaccurate and misleading, and contains an accretion.

... Ji ga toku bur-rai.
... Sho kyo sho kosshu.
... Muryo hyaku sen man.
... Oku sai asogi.

translates directly to

... Since I attained buddhahood
... the number of kalpas that have passed
... is an immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands,
... millions, trillions, asamkhyas.

Sticking to the Nichiren Shoshu translations and views of the sutras and the Nichiren Shoshu distortions of what Nichiren Daishonin says is deleterious to your mental health, Ricky.

-Chas.
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