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Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names

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Apr 18, 2011, 6:32:57 AM4/18/11
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There appears to be misinformation being spread on alt.politics
concerning the format used by the US military for expressing the date.

Army Regulation 25-50 establishes the date format used by the Army.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf

Note there are several formats in use, depending upon the type of
correspondence and the formality of the correspondence.

Basically, the military date format is DAY MONTH YEAR.

Formal correspondence spells out the month and year -- e.g.: 3 June
2002, 15 June 2002, 27 September 1998. (Note the date printed at the
bottom of each page of AR 25-50 as an example.)
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf

A short date format is also used for correspondence in which space is
limited or brevity is important. In these cases, the date may be
written variously: DAY ABBREVIATED MONTH ABBREVIATED YEAR

In the short format, 15 September 2010 can be written as:

15 Sep 10

OR

15 SEP 10

OR

1 Jan 94

OR

01 JAN 94

Note that in the short form date:

-- the day can be one or two digist, depending on formality of the
document.

-- the month always consists of three letters -- Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr,
May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec -- and can be written
capitalized with lower case, or, all caps.

-- the year is always two digits -- e.g., 15 Sep 99, NOT 15 Sep 1999.

(Page 27, AR 25-50; Par 2-4a(2)(c).


Of course, message correspondence used the DTG -- DATE TIME GROUP --
which is another matter entirely. The DTG includes date and time
written as DA (2 DIGITS) HOUR (2 DIGITS) MINUTE (2 DIGITS) Z
(SPACE) MONTH (3 LETTERS) YEAR (2 DIGITS).

1545 HOURS ZULU on 1 JANUARY 1998 would be written as:

011545 Z JAN 98

Certain older message systems run it all together:
011545ZJAN98


When discussing military matters, it's always a good idea to go to the
original source -- regulations -- and don't depend on short, specific
documents that may not address the matter in depth or detail.


http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf
----------------------------------------------

The material posted here may or may not be factual.

The author is following the example set by
Senator Jon Kyl (R, AZ) who was caught citing
false statistics, after which his staff stated
that his comments were "not intended to be factual."

KATN

Dave Heil

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Apr 18, 2011, 8:00:37 PM4/18/11
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On 4/18/2011 10 32, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
> There appears to be misinformation being spread on alt.politics
> concerning the format used by the US military for expressing the date.

> Of course, message correspondence used the DTG -- DATE TIME GROUP --


> which is another matter entirely. The DTG includes date and time
> written as DA (2 DIGITS) HOUR (2 DIGITS) MINUTE (2 DIGITS) Z
> (SPACE) MONTH (3 LETTERS) YEAR (2 DIGITS).
>
> 1545 HOURS ZULU on 1 JANUARY 1998 would be written as:
>
> 011545 Z JAN 98

No, Foghorn, it shouldn't.

It should be written as 011545Z JAN 98 per ACP-127. Sheesh.

> When discussing military matters, it's always a good idea to go to the
> original source -- regulations -- and don't depend on short, specific
> documents that may not address the matter in depth or detail.
>
> http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf

The Army is is not the ultimate authority in military or government
communications. Government/military record traffic is generally ACP-127
formatted.

ZBM-2 [Place a competent operator on this circuit]
<CR> <CR>

NNNN


Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names

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Apr 18, 2011, 8:29:38 PM4/18/11
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 00:00:37 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:


That's exactly what I wrote: 011545Z JAN 98

Buster Norris

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:07:35 PM4/18/11
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:32:57 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There appears to be misinformation being spread on alt.politics
>concerning the format used by the US military for expressing the date.

Thats becaused YOU LIED...................


>
>Army Regulation 25-50 establishes the date format used by the Army.
>http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf

>>Basically, the military date format is DAY MONTH YEAR.
>
>Formal correspondence spells out the month and year -- e.g.: 3 June
>2002, 15 June 2002, 27 September 1998. (Note the date printed at the
>bottom of each page of AR 25-50 as an example.)
>http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r25_50.pdf
>
>A short date format is also used for correspondence in which space is
>limited or brevity is important. In these cases, the date may be
>written variously: DAY ABBREVIATED MONTH ABBREVIATED YEAR
>
>In the short format, 15 September 2010 can be written as:
>
>15 Sep 10
>
>OR
>
>15 SEP 10
>
>OR
>
>1 Jan 94
>
>OR
>
>01 JAN 94
>
>
>
>Note that in the short form date:
>
>-- the day can be one or two digist, depending on formality of the
>document.
>
>-- the month always consists of three letters -- Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr,
>May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec -- and can be written
>capitalized with lower case, or, all caps.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2–4. Format
When writing a memorandum..........
(2) Date.
(c) Express the date in this order: day, month, year. Day—Express in
numerals. Month—Spell out if the year is not abbreviated; abbreviate
if the year is abbreviated (15 January 1999 or 15 Jan 99 but not 15
January 99 or 15 Jan 1999).

>When discussing military matters, it's always a good idea

to never listen to someone who never served.................

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buster Norris

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:12:23 PM4/18/11
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:29:38 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> 011545 Z JAN 98


>>
>That's exactly what I wrote: 011545Z JAN 98

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were never in any military, except maybe the Freak & Mutant
Army!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buster Norris

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:13:44 PM4/18/11
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:29:38 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> 011545 Z JAN 98
>>


>That's exactly what I wrote: 011545Z JAN 98

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were never in any military, except maybe the Freak & Mutant
Army!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 01:45:43 -0700 (PDT), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Names" <PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Perhaps PG needs to read the following criteria for the award of the
>Purple Heart. He should pay special attention to paragraph 2-8 b. ,
>which reads:
>-- quote
>b. While clearly an individual decoration, the Purple Heart differs
>from all other decorations in that an individual is not "recommended"
>for the decoration; rather he or she is entitled to it upon meeting
>specific criteria.
>-- end quote

You FAILED to CITE your source.

This is one such source: http://www.americal.org/awards/ph.htm

You FAILED to consider:

>the wound
>for which the award is made must have required treatment by a medical
>officer and records of medical treatment for wounds or injuries
>received in action must have been made a matter of official record.

What "official record" would that be?

>(3) When contemplating an award of this decoration, the key issue that
>commanders...

Why would commanders be "contemplating an award of this decoration" if
OFFICIAL APPROVAL WAS NOT REQUIRED?

>The fact that... ...is not sole justification for award.

Why would "justification for award" be REQUIRED if OFFICIAL APPROVAL
WAS NOT REQUIRED?

>(6) ...Commanders must also take into consideration the
>circumstances surrounding an injury....

Why would commanders be considering the "circumstances surrounding an
injury" if OFFICIAL APPROVAL WAS NOT REQUIRED?

In addition to DEBUNKING the Kerry MYTH I have ALSO DEBUNKED the LIE
that YOU had a career in the military.

ONLY a DISHONORABLE LIAR would post material WITHOUT A CITE.

ONLY a DISHONORABLE LIAR with ZERO MILITARY EXPERIENCE would NOT BE
FAMILIAR WITH:

MANUAL OF MILITARY DECORATIONS & AWARDS
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Force Management Policy)
DoD 1348.33-M, September 1996
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134833m.pdf

C3.3.2. All recommendations for Defense decorations shall be submitted
by official memorandum or letter (original plus 3 copies) through
command or staff channels to the appropriate approval authority using
the format shown in Figure C3.F1.

What part of "ALL RECOMMENDATIONS for Defense decorations shall be
submitted by official memorandum or letter" don't YOU understand?

Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/

Buster Norris

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:14:18 PM4/18/11
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:29:38 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> 011545 Z JAN 98
>>


>That's exactly what I wrote: 011545Z JAN 98

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were never in any military, except maybe the Freak & Mutant
Army!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:08:42 -0400, Patriot Games
<Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 01:36:51 -0700 (PDT), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
>Names" <PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Jul 7, 1:25 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:22:11 -0700 (PDT), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
>>> Names" <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Jul 6, 5:55 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>>> >There is no such thing as a recommendation for a Purple Heart.
>>> Wrong.


>>> MANUAL OF MILITARY DECORATIONS & AWARDS
>>> Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense
>>> (Force Management Policy)
>>> DoD 1348.33-M, September 1996
>>> http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134833m.pdf
>>> C3.3.2. All recommendations for Defense decorations

>>The key word here is "decorations."
>
>Wrong. The important word used to CATCH YOU LYING, AGAIN, is
>"Service" as in SERVICE AWARDS.
>
>>Military medals are of two types: AWARDS and DECORATIONS -- known to
>>anyone who has served a few minutes in uniform is "awards and decs."
>
>Wrong. SERVICE AWARDS are NOT Decorations. The Purple Heart IS NOT a
>Service Award.
>
>>The Purple Heart is an award, not a decoration.
>
>Wrong. But thanks so much for the opportunity to PROVE CONCLUSIVELY
>that YOU ARE A LIAR and that YOU HAVE NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE.
>
>>Once again, ol' PG has his ass handed to him.
>
>Let's recap.
>
>I provided CITED REFERENCES.
>
>YOU are a PROVEN LIAR.
>
>I provided ORIGINAL MILITARY DOCUMENTATION.
>
>YOU, a PROVEN LIAR, provided WORTHLESS PERSONAL OPINION.
>
>And now I will demonstrate using CITED ORIGINAL MILITARY DOCUMENTATION
>that YOU ARE A LIAR AND A FRAUD:


>
>MANUAL OF MILITARY DECORATIONS & AWARDS
>Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense
>(Force Management Policy)
>DoD 1348.33-M, September 1996
>http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134833m.pdf

>C1.1. PURPOSE
>This Manual explains DoD policies and procedures on awarding Defense
>decorations and SERVICE awards...
>[...]
>AP1. APPENDIX 1
>U.S. MILITARY DECORATIONS
>AP1.1.1. This Appendix contains a brief description of the various
>decorations that have been authorized for the Armed Forces of the
>United States:
>AP1.1.2. Those decorations include the following:
>[...]
>AP1.1.2.21. PURPLE HEART
>[...]
>
>We NOW KNOW for a PROVEN FACT that YOU LIED about having ANY MILITARY
>EXPERIENCE.
>
>I hope you will enjoy having me post this again, and again, and again,
>and again as much as I will enjoy posting it again, and again, and
>again, and again.
>
>YOU ARE NOW A TOTALLY DISCREDITED LIAR AND FRAUD!

=====================================

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Names" <old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Why is the over-65 crowd so worked up about health insurance reform?
>After all, they (we, actually, I'm on Medicare)

Thanks for admitting YOU NEVER RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY!

Hahahahahahahahha!!

=====================================

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/c9b8842a2f0982a0?hl=en

From: "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <old_redn...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
> Military retirees carry TriCare as their primary insurer UNTIL
> AGE 65 AT WHICH TIME WE GO ON MEDICARE with TriCare
> For Life as our secondary insurer.
> http://www.military.com/benefits/tricare/tricare-and-medicare
> I am a military retiree over 65.
> Medicare is my primary,
> TFL is my secondary.

Oops! Busted BAD this time!

"If you are the widow or widower of a service member... you are no
longer covered by TRICARE..."

As I have LONG SUSPECTED we NOW KNOW why you said "I'm on Medicare."

Because YOU NEVER SERVED, but YOUR HUSBAND DID!!

YOU are a OLD BITCH WIDOW HAG!

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!

=====================================

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:37:30 -0800 (PST), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
Names" <old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 11:20 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> > Military retirees carry TriCare as their primary insurer UNTIL
>> > AGE 65 AT WHICH TIME WE GO ON MEDICARE with TriCare
>> > For Life as our secondary insurer.
>> >http://www.military.com/benefits/tricare/tricare-and-medicare
>> > I am a military retiree over 65.
>> > Medicare is my primary,
>> > TFL is my secondary.
>> Oops! Busted BAD this time!
>Yep -- and you are the one who is busted -- bad -- really bad.

Nope...

>> "If you are the widow or widower of a service member... you are no
>> longer covered by TRICARE..."
>I didn't say I am now covered by TriCare.
>This is what I said:
>>> I am a military retiree over 65.
>> > Medicare is my primary,
>> > TFL is my secondary.
>TFL = TriCare For Life
>http://www.tricare.mil/mybenefit/ProfileFilter.do;jsessionid=K9KR7QXgppyYqgGG2sF2Gyg8MWGTSm9n5FJZt25M4TXZvJCgH1ly!-491296821?&puri=%2Fhome%2Foverview%2FPlans%2FLearnAboutPlansAndCosts%2FTRICAREForLife
>or
>http://tinyurl.com/y9bvca2
>-- quote
>TRICARE For Life
>TRICARE For Life (TFL) is TRICARE's Medicare-wraparound coverage
>available to all Medicare-eligible TRICARE beneficiaries, regardless
>of age, provided they have Medicare Parts A and B.

"TRICARE beneficiaries..."

>While Medicare is your primary insurance, TRICARE acts as your
>secondary payer minimizing your out-of-pocket expenses. TRICARE
>benefits include covering Medicare's coinsurance and deductible.
>-- end quote
>Just in case you missed it, here's the salient point again:
>-- quote
>TRICARE For Life (TFL) is TRICARE's Medicare-wraparound coverage
>available to all Medicare-eligible TRICARE beneficiaries, regardless
>of age, provided they have Medicare Parts A and B.
>-- end quote

"TRICARE beneficiaries..."

You are a 'beneficiary' BECAUSE "you are the widow or widower of a
service member..."

>I just love it when you're busted again and again and again.

In case you haven't noticed THIS IS GAME OVER FOR YOU.

YOU are an OLD WOMAN.

Case closed.

YOU were a Service Member's DOORMAT.

Case closed.

That Service member died, making YOU a "beneficiary" of HIS BENEFITS.

Case closed.

YOU NEVER SERVED.

PROVEN.

Case closed.

And...

Game over.

(The BEST part is that I knew if I waited long enough YOU would
provide the very CITE that WOULD DO YOU IN!)

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

<---- Update ----------------------------------------------->

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:56:48 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>She [Angle] is not working but her husband is a retired federal
>guvmint employee who is drawing a nice, fat federal pension
>yet she wants to shut down the tiny social security pension
>that so many of us depend on to stay out of poverty.

"Us?"

Thanks for PROVING YOU DO NOT GET A MILITARY RETIREMENT!

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Dave Heil

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Apr 19, 2011, 1:42:29 AM4/19/11
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No it isn't. You placed a space between the time and the letter "Z."
Take a gander at your work up the page. If you intend to give some guy
hell over the manner in which he uses a date, you'd better have your
shit grouped.

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