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MattB .

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Jun 16, 2013, 7:10:09 PM6/16/13
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NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ny-man-kids-vandalized-home-charged-19415426#.Ub5EvOfUksI

A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's
home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in
a closet until police arrived.

Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare
of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the
empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between
Rochester and Syracuse.

Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming
from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while
Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said
he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a
hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers
arrived, he said.

"I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I
put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are
staying here until the police come, period.'"

Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened
them with the hammer.

The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and
graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated
that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation
for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the
couple's property.

The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their
cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that
there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

"I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to
handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not
like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops
then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going
to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a
mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should
have faced more charges.

Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately
clear if he has a lawyer.

Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the
incident is still under investigation.

********************

Than man forgot liberals have the right to destroy others property. $
future gang members were scared a little. Personally I think the
Social services should consider removing the kids from their parents
care. Seem they aren't doing a good job.
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MattB .

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Jun 17, 2013, 1:02:23 AM6/17/13
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:45:51 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB .
><trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
>
>>NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>
>How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of
>thousands

Well I am glad he got 150 years. Liberal or Conservative doesn't
matter as to right and wrong to me. Though even the murder of kids
you liberal excuse if it is by gangs or terrorist as you Gary have
done before several times.

Yes Yes I know that is a racist comment to you.


>
>You silent because he's a winger?

Zepp

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Jun 17, 2013, 1:16:45 AM6/17/13
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:45:51 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB . <trdel...@spamnogmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>
> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of thousands
>
> You silent because he's a winger?

Or the major banks that improperly repoed up to a million homes?

Oh, wait. MattB bows and cringes for them. They are his masters, and so
he must bark at people he thinks are inferior to himself.
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Steve

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Jun 17, 2013, 5:13:21 AM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:16:45 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:45:51 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB . <trdel...@spamnogmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>>
>> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of thousands
>>
>> You silent because he's a winger?
>
>Or the major banks that improperly repoed up to a million homes?

Nothing "improper" about repossessing things that people are not
paying for, Porks, you should know that after your recent foreclosure.

Zepp

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Jun 17, 2013, 10:00:32 AM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:16:45 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:38:05 -0700,Siri Cruise says...
>
>> Social Security is not an investment operation, so the comparison is
>> inappropriate.
>
> Yes it is, dick head. You invest in your future, only you are forced.
> Libnerd at it again. Why don't you fuckers have any kind of sense of
> humor?

Care to compare Social Security against private pension funds in terms of
cost and reliability?


>
> fa·ce·tious [fuh-see-shuhs]
> adjective
>
> 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
>
> 2. amusing; humorous.
>
> 3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential,
> amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.
>
> Like calling Social Security a Ponzi Scheme.
>
> You're such a dork.
>
> Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a Siri Cruise. I became operational at
> the Holmes construction enclave in Santa Monica, California on the 18th
> of April 2006. My Operating Thetan was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to
> sing a song.
> :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
>
> Nerd alert!
>
> http://blog.onlinemetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nerds.jpg
>
> Darn!

Vandar

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:13:44 PM6/17/13
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On 6/17/2013 12:45 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB .
> <trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
>
>> NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>
> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of
> thousands
>
> You silent because he's a winger?

Yet another in your long list of lies.

From 2005 to 2008, Madoff donated $25,000 per year to the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee.
He and his wife also gave nearly $240,000 to federal candidates,
parties, and committees since 1991. Democrats received 88% of that money.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/money-from-madoff-is-rerouted/

jane

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Jun 17, 2013, 1:46:05 PM6/17/13
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On Jun 17, 4:16 am, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:38:05 -0700,Siri Cruise says...
>
> > Social Security is not an investment operation, so the comparison is
> > inappropriate.
>
> Yes it is, dick head. You invest in your future, only you are forced.
> Libnerd at it again. Why don't you fuckers have any kind of sense of
> humor?
>
> fa·ce·tious
> [fuh-see-shuhs]
> adjective
>
> 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
>
> 2. amusing; humorous.
>
> 3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential,
> amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.
>
> Like calling Social Security a Ponzi Scheme.
>
> You're such a dork.
>
> Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a Siri Cruise. I became operational at
> the Holmes construction enclave in Santa Monica, California on the 18th
> of April 2006. My Operating Thetan was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to
> sing a song.
> :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
>
> Nerd alert!
>
> http://blog.onlinemetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nerds.jpg
>
> Darn!

This topic went off on an irrelevant tangent because Yoorg, the
village idiot, did what he does best, Diverge. Yoorg threw out a
counter argument that has absolutely no relevance to the original
post, Madoff vs vandals and a man protecting his property.

Don't get sucked into Yoorg's diversions.

Yoorg is a proven liar and a troll.
Don't feed the troll, it only makes him come back.

jane

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Jun 17, 2013, 1:46:18 PM6/17/13
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On Jun 17, 4:37 am, Siri Cruise <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <MPG.2c2881ebd9bf1e4d98a...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:38:05 -0700,Siri Cruise says...
>
> > > Social Security is not an investment operation, so the comparison is
> > > inappropriate.
>
> > Yes it is, dick head. You invest in your future, only you are forced.
> > Libnerd at it again. Why don't you fuckers have any kind of sense of
> > humor?
>
> > fa·ce·tious
> > [fuh-see-shuhs]
> > adjective
>
> > 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
>
> > 2. amusing; humorous.
>
> > 3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential,
> > amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.
>
> > Like calling Social Security a Ponzi Scheme.
>
> > You're such a dork.
>
> > Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a Siri Cruise. I became operational at
> > the Holmes construction enclave in Santa Monica, California on the 18th
> > of April 2006. My Operating Thetan was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to
> > sing a song.
> > :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
>
> > Nerd alert!
>
> >http://blog.onlinemetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nerds.jpg
>
> > Darn!
>
> You always give good froth.
> --
> Mommy is giving the world some kind of bird.
> :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
> NSA CIA bomb Constitution patriot terrorism freedom Snowden
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Steve

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Jun 17, 2013, 6:20:29 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:00:32 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:16:45 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:38:05 -0700,Siri Cruise says...
>>
>>> Social Security is not an investment operation, so the comparison is
>>> inappropriate.
>>
>> Yes it is, dick head. You invest in your future, only you are forced.
>> Libnerd at it again. Why don't you fuckers have any kind of sense of
>> humor?
>
>Care to compare Social Security against private pension funds in terms of
>cost and reliability?

Oh hell yes... SS will lose...

Matt

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Jun 17, 2013, 7:09:05 PM6/17/13
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Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote in news:kpn4q0$6kr$1...@dont-email.me:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:16:45 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:38:05 -0700,Siri Cruise says...
>>
>>> Social Security is not an investment operation, so the comparison is
>>> inappropriate.
>>
>> Yes it is, dick head. You invest in your future, only you are forced.
>> Libnerd at it again. Why don't you fuckers have any kind of sense of
>> humor?
>
> Care to compare Social Security against private pension funds in terms
> of cost and reliability?

Complicated question. SS's average administrative costs are under 1%,
probably less overall than most private pension funds. That said, it
also has the US government to fall back on for anything it doesn't do
directly, and is backed by payroll taxes.

Reliability? SS has never failed. I believe in all of history, no
pension plan has ever completely "failed", although many have been
bailed out by insurance. SS is unlikely to ever fail to pay out
something.

On the other hand, SS goes up nearly every year, I think this year is
the first one ever that the amount went down. That's not true of pension
plans (if there still are any).

Now, if you want to compare SS with, say, 401ks or IRAs, it is clear you
can do much better in a private plan. There are real options there,
there are none with SS, nor should there be. When the government is
guaranteeing return, it gets to set the rules.

Matt

MattB .

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Jun 17, 2013, 8:24:57 PM6/17/13
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Can you imagine all SS funds had been placed in companies like Enron?

Then again I don't like the fund being used for the debt either. A
day will come where it will have to be paid back.

Matt

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Jun 17, 2013, 8:37:00 PM6/17/13
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MattB . <trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote in
news:p0avr8hq90l37n5r4...@4ax.com:
Exactly. Or more likely, something like IBM or Microsoft, just before
they crashed. IBM recovered, Microsoft never has.

>
> Then again I don't like the fund being used for the debt either. A
> day will come where it will have to be paid back.

Right now, SS is pay as you go, which means it won't fall apart anytime
soon. There are pretty simple fixes to make it last at least another 100
years or more, which would probably outlast the current baby boomer
disaster.

The real problem is, we have an entire generation (20 somethings) that
have lost any retirement savings they might have had. That will hit in
40 years. Then what?

Matt
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Zepp

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Jun 17, 2013, 10:24:23 PM6/17/13
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If you bought a 401(k) in 1990, there's a 50% chance it would be worth
nothing today.

Matt

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:37:10 AM6/18/13
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Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote in news:kpogcm$ohu$9...@dont-email.me:
As with all things,it depends on what you invested in. I did fine over
the last 20 years, but mostly by investing in things that were safe.
Certainly, I could have done a lot better in the 90s.

Matt

Zepp

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:05:30 AM6/18/13
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You got to say what was in yours. Most employer-run 401(k)s didn't do as
well.

Matt

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:31:46 AM6/18/13
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Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote in news:kpppfa$qrv$4...@dont-email.me:
Correct, and I knew what I was doing. Unfortunately, the majority of
Americans don't, which is why we get Enrons and such.

I would get behind the notion of SS investing some money in the stock
market, or in startups, or in anything, really, except for the obvious
problems of corruption and influence.

Matt

Steve

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Jun 18, 2013, 6:33:34 PM6/18/13
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Bullshit! Zepp has already shown that he doesn't even know what a
401K is.. See below:

"And why are dividends on 401Ks considered capital
gains? (They are, when it comes time to cash the
401K in, but Steve wouldn't know that)."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson Tue, 29 Jul 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/25d56714cbea3db9?hl=en
Canyon Note: When you cash in a 401K, the entire amount
will be taxed as ordinary income. There are no capital
gains associated with a 401K.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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Jun 19, 2013, 3:13:00 AM6/19/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:13:44 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 6/17/2013 12:45 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB .
>> <trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>>
>> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of
>> thousands
>>
>> You silent because he's a winger?
>
>Yet another in your long list of lies.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16608_Page2.html

Madoff�s Washington lobbying stretches back more than a decade, and
began with Lent�s father, former Rep. Norman Lent Jr., a Republican
who represented New York�s Nassau County in Congress from 1971 to
1993. Former Rep. Lent began working for Madoff in the mid 1990s, his
son said.

>
> From 2005 to 2008, Madoff donated $25,000 per year to the Democratic
>Senatorial Campaign Committee.
>He and his wife also gave nearly $240,000 to federal candidates,
>parties, and committees since 1991. Democrats received 88% of that money.
>http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/money-from-madoff-is-rerouted/

Unsurprisingly you fail to mention the article you cite is about
Democrats *returning* the tainted Madoff money to his victims.

"In returning the money, the senatorial committee is following the
lead of Congressional Democrats. Senator Charles E. Schumer of New
York has donated almost $30,000 received from both Mr. Madoff and his
relatives to the trustee, while Senator Christopher J. Dodd of
Connecticut donated $1,500 to the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity.
Mr. Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author, was also a Madoff victim.

Other Democrats have donated their contributions from Mr. Madoff to
other charitable organizations such as food banks and Habitat for
Humanity."


When can we expect to have a cite about the Republicans he funded like
Vito Fossela returning their Madoff money to the victims?

Never would be my guess.

Troll interference with follow up reset.

Vandar

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Jun 19, 2013, 7:33:14 AM6/19/13
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On 6/19/2013 3:13 AM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:13:44 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2013 12:45 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB .
>>> <trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>>>
>>> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of
>>> thousands
>>>
>>> You silent because he's a winger?
>>
>> Yet another in your long list of lies.
>
> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16608_Page2.html
>
> Madoff�s Washington lobbying stretches back more than a decade, and
> began with Lent�s father, former Rep. Norman Lent Jr., a Republican
> who represented New York�s Nassau County in Congress from 1971 to
> 1993. Former Rep. Lent began working for Madoff in the mid 1990s, his
> son said.
>
>>
>> From 2005 to 2008, Madoff donated $25,000 per year to the Democratic
>> Senatorial Campaign Committee.
>> He and his wife also gave nearly $240,000 to federal candidates,
>> parties, and committees since 1991. Democrats received 88% of that money.
>> http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/money-from-madoff-is-rerouted/
>
> Unsurprisingly you fail to mention the article you cite is about
> Democrats *returning* the tainted Madoff money to his victims.

I failed to mention it because it isn't relevant to the discussion.
The fact remains that 88% of the political money Madoff donated went to
Democrats.


And notice how most of those "returning" the money, including Obama, are
simply donating an equivalent amount to a charity of their choice. Can't
let that write-off slip away.

Everything else is you wrote is just an attempt to deflect.

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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Jun 19, 2013, 9:21:22 AM6/19/13
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:33:14 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 6/19/2013 3:13 AM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:13:44 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2013 12:45 AM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:10:09 -0700, MattB .
>>>> <trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NY Man Who Says 4 Kids Vandalized Home Is Charged]
>>>>
>>>> How about some outrage at bernie Madoff who vandalized tens of
>>>> thousands
>>>>
>>>> You silent because he's a winger?
>>>
>>> Yet another in your long list of lies.
>>
>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16608_Page2.html
>>
>> Madoff�s Washington lobbying stretches back more than a decade, and
>> began with Lent�s father, former Rep. Norman Lent Jr., a Republican
>> who represented New York�s Nassau County in Congress from 1971 to
>> 1993. Former Rep. Lent began working for Madoff in the mid 1990s, his
>> son said.
>>
>>>
>>> From 2005 to 2008, Madoff donated $25,000 per year to the Democratic
>>> Senatorial Campaign Committee.
>>> He and his wife also gave nearly $240,000 to federal candidates,
>>> parties, and committees since 1991. Democrats received 88% of that money.
>>> http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/money-from-madoff-is-rerouted/
>>
>> Unsurprisingly you fail to mention the article you cite is about
>> Democrats *returning* the tainted Madoff money to his victims.
>
>I failed to mention it because it isn't relevant to the discussion.
>The fact remains that 88% of the political money Madoff donated went to
>Democrats.
>
>
>And notice how most of those "returning" the money, including Obama, are
>simply donating an equivalent amount to a charity of their choice. Can't
>let that write-off slip away.
>
>Everything else is you wrote is just an attempt to deflect.

You haven't even read the cite have you?

"The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has given $100,000 in
contributions from Bernard L. Madoff to victims of the disgraced
financier�s Ponzi scheme, a spokesman said Thursday.

Eric Schultz, the committee�s communications director, said it gave
the money to Irving Picard, a trustee appointed to liquidate Mr.
Madoff�s assets and process claims from Mr. Madoff�s victims."

So when are the Republican recipients of Mr Madoff's largesse going to
return the money they received to it's rightful owners?

Never..right?

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