I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age

[Wally J]

I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D

But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.

It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate
for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.

Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?

[Andy Burns]

Wally J wrote:

> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age

> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.

switch to incognito/private tab
create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
email account)
watch video
delete account

[Chris Schram]

Yes.

[Carlos E.R.]

On a Linux terminal:

yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[MarioCPPP]

it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.


The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional
offerings. An example : i have some non verified emails, and
when trying to activate a couple of cloud extentions (the
popular clones of google drive), entering a couple of emails
not associated to numbers, the host required to use not
better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D

They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical
person.

> watch video
> delete account
>
>
>

--
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
MarioCPPP

[Daniel65]

MarioCPPP wrote on 17/6/23 8:22 pm:

> On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Wally J wrote:
>>
>>> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
>>> age
>>> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
>>
>> switch to incognito/private tab
>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
>> email account)
>
> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
> number, the most personal information ever ...
> I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
>
>
> The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
> An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
> activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
> drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host
> required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
>
> They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.

I am currently unable to check how much of my ISP account monthly usage
I have used because I haven't update my account information (all this
two-state checking stuff).

Last week I enquired of my ISP and they wanted me to enable my mobile
phone camera, point it at my face and, if I read the SMS correctly, LET
THEM TAKE A PHOTO OF MY FACE!! Sure, I might be misreading it and they
only want ME to take the photo ..... but, either way, they have got to
be joking, haven't they??

If I ever get around to sending I photo, I've been thinking of sending a
photo of my Dog or some such!! ;-P

>
>> watch video
>> delete account

--

Daniel

[Paul]

Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting experiment.
Via Windows Bash shell and Ubuntu installation, this is my result.
It's not even getting to parse anything.

$ yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web agegate player API JSON
ERROR: [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Sign in to confirm your age. This video may be inappropriate for some users.

$

I didn't really expect a different result than that, but
certainly the experiment was worth trying.

If the returned web page simply does not have a URI the tool can harvest,
then that is about all they can do.

Only if there is a way to make a cookie, or one of those state schemes
to generate a "maturity token", could you break in without naming yourself.
And then the maturity token server has all your details (the token scheme
is an attempt to anonymize the user). This might have been described in
a recent Pornhub-related article.

Would a VPN work ?

Dunno. Would depend on whether policies displayed are "global" or not.

Even my attempt to search this topic on Bing, was truncated by
the search engine. Very very nice. Kwality.

This means you'll need to mine a site like MDL or similar, manually, for an answer.

Paul

[Johnny]

Have you ever tried Bing videos?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=russian+and+ukraine+soldiers+face+to+face&&view=detail&mid=8FC399813AFCFCDE63568FC399813AFCFCDE6356&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drussian%2520and%2520ukraine%2520soldiers%2520face%2520to%2520face%26qs%3DSSA%26form%3DQBVR%26%3D%2525eManage%2520Your%2520Search%2520History%2525E%26sp%3D1%26ghc%3D1%26lq%3D0%26pq%3Dukraine%2520and%2520russian%2520troops%2520fight%2520face%2520to%2520face%26sc%3D10-45%26cvid%3DA946F752AD1B4CD0BA5D88192E87BFFD

[Carlos E.R.]

cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally> yt-dlp
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON
[info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 4
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
[download] 100% of 35.43MiB in 00:00:01 at 25.00MiB/s
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
[download] 100% of 2.61MiB in 00:00:00 at 15.73MiB/s
[Merger] Merging formats into "Russian troops enter Ukraine Army
trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].webm"
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
(pass -k to keep)
Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;
Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
(pass -k to keep)
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally>

cer@Telcontar:~/tmp> yt-dlp --version
2023.03.04
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp>

cer@Telcontar:~/tmp> youtube-dl

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Refetching age-gated info webpage
WARNING: unable to download video info webpage: HTTP Error 410: Gone
ERROR: Sign in to confirm your age

This video may be inappropriate for some users.

cer@Telcontar:~/tmp>
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp> youtube-dl --version
2021.12.17
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp>


There are also some intermediary download web pages.


And plugins to firefox, like https://www.downloadhelper.net/
Doesn't work for me.

> I didn't really expect a different result than that, but
> certainly the experiment was worth trying.
>
> If the returned web page simply does not have a URI the tool can harvest,
> then that is about all they can do.
>
> Only if there is a way to make a cookie, or one of those state schemes
> to generate a "maturity token", could you break in without naming yourself.
> And then the maturity token server has all your details (the token scheme
> is an attempt to anonymize the user). This might have been described in
> a recent Pornhub-related article.
>
> Would a VPN work ?
>
> Dunno. Would depend on whether policies displayed are "global" or not.
>
> Even my attempt to search this topic on Bing, was truncated by
> the search engine. Very very nice. Kwality.
>
> This means you'll need to mine a site like MDL or similar, manually, for
> an answer.
>
>    Paul

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Killadebug]

Try Freetube...... Link: https://freetubeapp.io/



--
Pull my finger

[Alan Browne]

To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.

Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
mystery to me.

(Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)

--
“If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
-Ronald Coase

[MarioCPPP]

On 17/06/23 15:51, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
>>> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in
>>> to confirm my age
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
>>>
>>> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they
>>> can easily track.
>>>
>>> It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may
>>> be inappropriate
>>> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and
>>> many other) videos.
>>>
>>> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or
>>> Android without
>>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can
>>> track me?
>>
>> On a Linux terminal:
>>
>> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
>
> To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
>
> Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular
> video is a mystery to me.

since when one's privacy needs any justification at all ? It
should still be the default ...

>
> (Did this in Ubuntu under VMWare Fusion on a Mac)
>

--

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 10:16, MarioCPPP wrote:
> On 17/06/23 15:51, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
>>>> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm
>>>> my age
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
>>>>
>>>> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily
>>>> track.
>>>>
>>>> It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
>>>> inappropriate
>>>> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
>>>> videos.
>>>>
>>>> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
>>>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
>>>
>>> On a Linux terminal:
>>>
>>> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
>>
>> To my surprise, worked fine here w/o needing login creds.
>>
>> Why the OP wants to "hide" from watching that particular video is a
>> mystery to me.
>
> since when one's privacy needs any justification at all ? It should
> still be the default ...

You can watch oodles of their content w/o an account - that is the default.

Because the ref'd video was violent content, they want to cover their
butts that they are not providing it minors. Thus login creds.

Google operate YouTube as a money earning business. How they go about
doing that is their business - but certainly reduced exposure to legal
liability is a "good thing" business wise...

(Let's not get into the fact that any 12 year old can likely get around
setting up a spoof'd account).

[Paul]

On 6/17/2023 9:10 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
> [youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
> [youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON
> [info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
> [dashsegments] Total fragments: 4
> [download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm
> [download] 100% of   35.43MiB in 00:00:01 at 25.00MiB/s
> [dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
> [download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm
> [download] 100% of    2.61MiB in 00:00:00 at 15.73MiB/s
> [Merger] Merging formats into "Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].webm"
> Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f251.webm (pass -k to keep)
> Deleting original file Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ｜ Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].f248.webm (pass -k to keep)
> cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/Wally>

Downloading Ubuntu 23.04 and repeating, works as yours does,
and returns the same software release number. Even though
it likely is not the most up-to-date version. Apparently
Debian does not want dynamic updates being done by individual
tools [security issue, not checked by treeherder].

The one I was using, was older. And for most things, it's been
working.

Paul

[Beyond the pale]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:

>> switch to incognito/private tab
>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
>> throwaway email account)
>
> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
> TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
> I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.

The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.
(fup set to remove all those idiot Apple morons from this subthread)

There are many FOSS youtube clients on Android, Windows & Linux.
Some are almost perfect copies of the YouTube app (on Android).
Others are downloaders (on Windows & Linux) which download the videos.

No account is needed by the user to create (the apps take care of it).
That means you have full access to all YouTube videos without ads.
And without having to create a login account.

Which means no email is needed. No phone number is needed.
Nothing but the app is needed (on Android, Windows & Linux).

It's perfectly legal as no YouTube rules are agreed to nor broken.
If Google could shut them down - they would - but they can't.

If you want to know of these apps, just ask - but you probably know them.
Each has been discussed in this newsgroup many times in the past already.

[MikeS]

I just watched the video using Edge on Windows as usual.
Just had to OK the may be inappropriate warning.
I have Google accounts for email but have never given them a phone
number or my age.

[Wally J]

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote

>> On a Linux terminal:
>>
>> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
>>
>
> Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting experiment.
> Via Windows Bash shell and Ubuntu installation, this is my result.
> It's not even getting to parse anything.

Woo hoo! Yippey! Yay!
That Windows yt-dlp.exe instantly solves the Windows & Linux question!
Thanks!

It did NOT ask me to verify anything!
It just worked!

Here's my version of yt-dlp which I ran in the Windows command shell.
(I do NOT have the BASH SHELL installed onto Windows & I don't want it.)
C:\Program Files\youtube\yt-dlp> yt-dlp.exe --version
2023.03.04

On Windows 10 I pasted the suggestion which worked the first time!
C:\Program Files\youtube\yt-dlp> yt-dlp.exe "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON

[info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 22
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ĄU Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].mp4
[download] 100% of 13.32MiB in 00:00:06 at 2.05MiB/s

Name: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera ĄU Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].mp4
Size: 13972233 bytes (13 MiB)
SHA256: E3D935734B44165E14B32EB57E16A7EFFCFB6135CD63C8C7442B57AA321D25FC

It was so easy that I didn't realize things were that good on Windows!
I'm sure it will work even better on Linux.

What about a solution for iOS and Android to watch vids without needing to
create a login that has to confirm my age and that they can easily track?

[Mickey D]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 17:53:31 +0100, MikeS wrote:

>> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
>>
> I just watched the video using Edge on Windows as usual.
> Just had to OK the may be inappropriate warning.
> I have Google accounts for email but have never given them a phone
> number or my age.

I don't have a Google Account and it asks me to create one to watch it.
Are you sure you're not already signed into your Google Account?

Even so, I don't think a browser is the way to go about this problem.
What you want is the downloaders or the foss youtube replacement apps.

[Woozy Song]

Chris Schram wrote:

>> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
>
> Yes.

https://newpipe.net/

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 12:47, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
>
>>> switch to incognito/private tab
>>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a
>>> throwaway email account)
>>
>> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
>> TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ...
>> I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
>
> The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.

Eh?

[Beyond the pale]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 13:25:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

>> The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.
>
> Eh?

I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.

Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
The proof is in the taste of the pudding.

There will NEVER be a solution for the iOS platform.
There is ALREADY a solution for all the other platforms.

Given the OP's question of watching an age-restricted YouTube video,
the solution has been provided for Windows, Linux and Android already.

And I stress the answer will NEVER be a web site in a web browser.
The only thing the brain dead iOS platform can do is go to web pages.

The answer is a dedicated app for Android.
It's a dedicated app for Linux.
And a dedicated app for Windows.

Nobody has an answer for iOS.

The reason is that iOS is a brain dead platform in almost every way.
If it's not, then post a link to the iOS app that does what the OP asked.

Don't post a web site.
Post a dedicated app that does EXACTLY what the OP asked for!

1. The user does NOT need to create a Google Account.
2. The user will download or view the video without verifying anything.
3. As an added bonus, none of the suggested apps will ever show an ad.
4. As a double added bonus, all the suggested apps are free open source.

If iOS is not brain dead, then just post a link to the free and open source
app you seem to be disputing doesn't exist on the Apple app store now.

Otherwise, iOS is brain dead and you're the only one who doesn't know that.
(fup set back to the newsgroups that have a solution to everything)

[Char Jackson]

yt-dlp.exe (Windows port, of course) seemed to work fine here, without
requiring any age verification or anything else. I updated to the latest
version before giving it a try.

D:\yt-dl>qyt-dlp.exe -U
Latest version: 2023.03.04, Current version: 2022.11.11
Current Build Hash
3e73e80d5b29be0a6bd47cb8636d281ce8a53ba11533f3441ea7d12433165b41
Updating to version 2023.03.04 ...
Updated yt-dlp to version 2023.03.04

D:\_Adult Movies\yt-dl>qyt-dlp
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading android player API JSON

[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading tv embedded player API JSON
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded client config
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading player 6ed0d907
[youtube] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading web embedded player API JSON
[info] 9SSrXOkCRd8: Downloading 1 format(s): 22
[download] Destination: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches;

Face-to-face fight caught on camera | Watch [9SSrXOkCRd8].mp4
[download] 100% of 13.32MiB in 00:00:00 at 13.96MiB/s

D:\yt-dl>

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 13:41, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 13:25:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead platform.
>>
>> Eh?
>
> I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.

I only posted on the Windows group a while ago as I have an upcoming
"home office configuration fork" coming and I might buy a small cheap
computer for Windows to support a decidedly aged app that I still use
for certain things. There's also Sage 50 (only distributed for Windows)
but I don't need it critically, but may need (with a very low coeficient
of "may" - VM's do the job currently but not on Apple Silicon).

>
> Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
> The proof is in the taste of the pudding.

Sure. Why Apple sell iPhones like hotcakes for a wide segment of the
population.

Meanwhile some very "niche" users on other platforms get their Apple
Hatred up in a froth. Amusing or tragic? Not sure.

> There will NEVER be a solution for the iOS platform.
> There is ALREADY a solution for all the other platforms.
>
> Given the OP's question of watching an age-restricted YouTube video,
> the solution has been provided for Windows, Linux and Android already.
>
> And I stress the answer will NEVER be a web site in a web browser.

And only a few obsessed angry Apple haters care.

> The only thing the brain dead iOS platform can do is go to web pages.

That smacks of ignorance, but do carry on (Gee - I have dozens of apps
that are not in web pages ...).

> The answer is a dedicated app for Android.
> It's a dedicated app for Linux.
> And a dedicated app for Windows.
>
> Nobody has an answer for iOS.
>
> The reason is that iOS is a brain dead platform in almost every way.
> If it's not, then post a link to the iOS app that does what the OP asked.
>
> Don't post a web site.
> Post a dedicated app that does EXACTLY what the OP asked for!
>
> 1. The user does NOT need to create a Google Account.
> 2. The user will download or view the video without verifying anything.
> 3. As an added bonus, none of the suggested apps will ever show an ad.
> 4. As a double added bonus, all the suggested apps are free open source.

Phhhewt. Google run YouTube the way they want to run it. If that
requires login for some content then that is their right. If there are
work arounds for that that violate the legal and clearly defined
conditions that Google put out and Apple exclude apps that violate
another company's conditions, that speaks well for both Apple and Google.

But, Apple Haters are blind to reality.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2023-06-17, Beyond the pale <inv...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
>
>>> switch to incognito/private tab create throwaway google account (for
>>> total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
>>
>> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
>> TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ... I tried
>> temporary numbers, and they don't work.
>
> The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead
> platform.

You poor little thing!! Point to the place on the doll where Apple hurt
you. 🤣

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 14:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-06-17, Beyond the pale <inv...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:22:54 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
>>
>>>> switch to incognito/private tab create throwaway google account (for
>>>> total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
>>>
>>> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
>>> TELEPHONE number, the most personal information ever ... I tried
>>> temporary numbers, and they don't work.
>>
>> The OP should remove Apple newsgroups because iOS is a brain dead
>> platform.
>
> You poor little thing!! Point to the place on the doll where Apple hurt
> you. 🤣

----------------------- ROFL -------------------!

[Chris]

Probably a local requirement to meet differing legal systems? Maybe the OP
could try a VPN to a different country/state?

[Beyond the pale]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:05:18 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

>> I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.
>
> I only posted on the Windows group a while ago as I have an upcoming
> "home office configuration fork" coming and I might buy a small cheap
> computer for Windows to support a decidedly aged app that I still use
> for certain things. There's also Sage 50 (only distributed for Windows)
> but I don't need it critically, but may need (with a very low coeficient
> of "may" - VM's do the job currently but not on Apple Silicon).

I saw your posts about having an old Windows PC so I figured you knew
something about computers. But maybe you don't know anything about them.

If a Windows users says an app exists, they can point to that app.
On the Apple newsgroups, they can't point to the app since it never exists.

>> Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
>> The proof is in the taste of the pudding.
>
> Sure. Why Apple sell iPhones like hotcakes for a wide segment of the
> population.

You seem to be like an Apple user making excuses for the flaws in iOS.
By claiming that because Apple sells garbage to the masses, it's good.

They sell Rolex watches too but that doesn't mean they tell time well.

But the proof of your opinion will be in the taste of your pudding.
If you know of an iOS app that does what the OP asked for, name it.

> Meanwhile some very "niche" users on other platforms get their Apple
> Hatred up in a froth. Amusing or tragic? Not sure.

It's not hatred. It's reality. The solution already exists for Windows.
The solution already exists for Android. And for Linux.

The solution will never exist for iOS because iOS is for the brain dead.
Since you're a Windows user, I would have thought you already knew that.

All iOS can do is use a web browser which is what brain dead people use.

The solution will NEVER be a web page for the obvious reasons that a web
page will be using a YouTube web API which enforces the age restrictions.

>> There will NEVER be a solution for the iOS platform.
>> There is ALREADY a solution for all the other platforms.
>>
>> Given the OP's question of watching an age-restricted YouTube video,
>> the solution has been provided for Windows, Linux and Android already.
>>
>> And I stress the answer will NEVER be a web site in a web browser.
>
> And only a few obsessed angry Apple haters care.

If you want to call saying the truth about Apple being an Apple hater,
then that says more about you than it does about me.

I'm right. You're wrong.
There will NEVER be an iOS app that does what the OP asked for.

If you think there is an app that does what the OP asked for, say it.
Point to the URL of that app on the Apple app store that does it.

>> The only thing the brain dead iOS platform can do is go to web pages.
>
> That smacks of ignorance, but do carry on (Gee - I have dozens of apps
> that are not in web pages ...).

Are you going to supply the app on the iOS App Store that does what the OP
asked for or not?

You simply proving that iOS is brain dead crap doesn't make me an Apple
hater. It makes you wrong. And me right.

If you feel iOS is not a brain dead platform, then just point to the app.

>> 1. The user does NOT need to create a Google Account.
>> 2. The user will download or view the video without verifying anything.
>> 3. As an added bonus, none of the suggested apps will ever show an ad.
>> 4. As a double added bonus, all the suggested apps are free open source.
>
> Phhhewt. Google run YouTube the way they want to run it. If that
> requires login for some content then that is their right. If there are
> work arounds for that that violate the legal and clearly defined
> conditions that Google put out and Apple exclude apps that violate
> another company's conditions, that speaks well for both Apple and Google.

You think Google hasn't looked at the source code for all the suggested
free open source apps? You think Google doesn't know about them?

If you think that, then you don't belong on a Windows, Linux or Android
newsgroup.

You belong on an Apple newsgroup instead.

That's where the Apple-loving morons hang out who believe that everything
that they can't do (which is almost everything) must be illegal to do.

> But, Apple Haters are blind to reality.

If you feel iOS is not brain dead, then just point us all to the app.
--
(fup set to remove the brain dead Apple newsgroup posters - again)

[Alan Browne]

I just tried it on Mac, Firefox, no login and got the "Sign in ..."
message, so not due to this locale (Canada).

I had seen the other post (Paul) where the same Linux command failed.
yet for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).

No idea why.

[Carlos E.R.]

Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated frequently. It is a
war, people wanting to download, youtube wanting people not to download.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 15:02, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:05:18 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> I've seen you post to Windows so I'm surprised you don't know iOS is crap.
>>
>> I only posted on the Windows group a while ago as I have an upcoming
>> "home office configuration fork" coming and I might buy a small cheap
>> computer for Windows to support a decidedly aged app that I still use
>> for certain things. There's also Sage 50 (only distributed for Windows)
>> but I don't need it critically, but may need (with a very low coeficient
>> of "may" - VM's do the job currently but not on Apple Silicon).
>
> I saw your posts about having an old Windows PC so I figured you knew
> something about computers. But maybe you don't know anything about them.

I was writing s/w before IBM PC's came out and did all sorts of projects
on various platforms big ans small for a period of 20 years. Real-time.
Airborne sensors (navigation mainly).

And I still "hobby" RTL code for various projects of my own interest.

So - "something about computers" and then some ...

> If a Windows users says an app exists, they can point to that app.
> On the Apple newsgroups, they can't point to the app since it never exists.

Such as? What is burning so bad?

Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
obscure thing?

Is that useful to everyone or just a narrow minded bunch of Apple haters?

>>> Everyone knows that iOS is brain dead.
>>> The proof is in the taste of the pudding.
>>
>> Sure. Why Apple sell iPhones like hotcakes for a wide segment of the
>> population.
> You seem to be like an Apple user making excuses for the flaws in iOS.
> By claiming that because Apple sells garbage to the masses, it's good.
>
> They sell Rolex watches too but that doesn't mean they tell time well.
>
> But the proof of your opinion will be in the taste of your pudding.
> If you know of an iOS app that does what the OP asked for, name it.

Not offhand - and to whit - I don't care about his little obscure case -
and 99.99% of people don't care either.

You've just got a bad case of Apple hate.

I'll leave you to it ...

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated frequently. It is a
> war, people wanting to download, youtube wanting people not to download.

Their platform, their rules.

[Paul]

That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
and then it worked fine.

I don't generally chase after new versions, until an old
version shows itself to be too old.

The UBuntu I have on the Linux drive is 22.04.x and that's
the LTS.

The non-LTS versions last for such a short time, you install
them... and then the second time you go to use them, they're
expired. So I don't bother with things like 23.04 . 24.04 would
be the next one I would be installing. And it depends on how
"Snap happy" they get, whether there will be any more Ubuntu
installs here.

Before I could even do anything with 23.04, I had to carry out
an incantation.

sudo add-apt-repository universe
sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install synaptic
sudo synaptic
# Now, install yt-dlp from the GUI in synaptic

If you do not want to see the Synaptic window for
the procedure, the sequence would be

sudo add-apt-repository universe
sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install yt-dlp

Paul

[Ant]

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> MarioCPPP wrote on 17/6/23 8:22 pm:

> > On 17/06/23 07:54, Andy Burns wrote:
> >> Wally J wrote:
> >>
> >>> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my
> >>> age

> >>> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
> >>

> >> switch to incognito/private tab
> >> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
> >> email account)
> >
> > it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
> > number, the most personal information ever ...
> > I tried temporary numbers, and they don't work.
> >
> >

> > The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
> > An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
> > activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
> > drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host
> > required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
> >
> > They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.

> I am currently unable to check how much of my ISP account monthly usage
> I have used because I haven't update my account information (all this
> two-state checking stuff).

> Last week I enquired of my ISP and they wanted me to enable my mobile
> phone camera, point it at my face and, if I read the SMS correctly, LET
> THEM TAKE A PHOTO OF MY FACE!! Sure, I might be misreading it and they
> only want ME to take the photo ..... but, either way, they have got to
> be joking, haven't they??

> If I ever get around to sending I photo, I've been thinking of sending a
> photo of my Dog or some such!! ;-P

Which ISP was that? :(
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[Wally J]

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote

> That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
> and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
> and then it worked fine.

Thank you for your extensive tests with that really nice yt-dlp downloader.

I was surprised to learn it has over a thousand supported video sites.
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md

The description for the yt-dlp foss software is as follows.
"yt-dlp is a command-line program that lets you easily download videos and
audio from more than a thousand websites."
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Yt-dlp

I was surprised that the FOSS newpipe app also supports many video sites.
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe & https://newpipe.net/

The description for the newpipe foss software is as follows.
"NewPipe does not use any Google framework libraries, or the YouTube API.
It only parses the website in order to gain the information it needs.
Therefore this app can be used on devices without Google Services
installed. Also, you don't need a YouTube account to use NewPipe, and it's
FLOSS." https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Because of the way it's designed that also works on Android TV.
https://www.androidtvtricks.com/newpipe-on-android-tv/

All the suggested solutions provided an ad free & login free experience
which allowed anyone to easily download that example age-restricted video.

The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 16:16:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
> obscure thing?

It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so
restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.

No developer is allowed to provide iOS users with what they ask for
(which would be the same things all other platform users ask for).

Only one of which is the ability to view/download any age-restricted
YouTube video (even when you don't wish to create your own Google Account).

You can keep saying that everything everyone else is already doing is "a
little obscure thing" but the sheer number of them is where the truth lies.

> Is that useful to everyone or just a narrow minded bunch of Apple haters?

If you lying about iOS capabilities makes you an Apple lover, and if me
telling the truth about iOS capabilities makes me an Apple hater, so be it.

Instead of coming up with excuses for why iOS can't do anything people want
to do, you could prove me wrong in an instant (if I was wrong) you know.

All you'd have to do is point to the app on the app store that does it.
--
(f'up set back to the non-Apple newsgroups which is where it should be)

[Andy Burns]

MarioCPPP wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> switch to incognito/private tab
>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
>> email account)
>
> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE
> number

So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-06-18 05:02, Wally J wrote:
> Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote
>
>> That was a version issue. I booted the latest non-LTS OS (Ubuntu 23.04)
>> and the same version of yt-dlp was in it as the one Carlos used,
>> and then it worked fine.
>
> Thank you for your extensive tests with that really nice yt-dlp downloader.
>
> I was surprised to learn it has over a thousand supported video sites.
> https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md

Doesn't mean it works. For example, one I would like and is listed doesn't:


cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/rtve> yt-dlp
https://www.rtve.es/play/videos/ingenieria-romana/ciudades/5789531/
[generic] Extracting URL:
https://www.rtve.es/play/videos/ingenieria-romana/ciudades/5789531/
[generic] 5789531: Downloading webpage
WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor
[generic] 5789531: Extracting information
ERROR: Unsupported URL:
https://www.rtve.es/play/videos/ingenieria-romana/ciudades/5789531/
cer@Telcontar:~/tmp/rtve>


But this particular site works here:

https://www.descargavideos.tv/

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Andy Burns]

Alan Browne wrote:

> for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).

are you *certain* you're not already signed-in to any other google web
property? check with a firefox private tab ...

[Daniel65]

Ah, sorry. TPG ... https://www.tpg.com.au/

--
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[MarioCPPP]

we don't have here in Shitaly, alas

>
>

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[Paul]

On 6/17/2023 11:02 PM, Wally J wrote:

>
> The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.

With the descriptions written, how would you know what a thing does ?
This one has a hole for a URL and that's about it.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/youdown/id1487658334

Paul

[TJ]

On 2023-06-17 06:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2023-06-17 04:36, Wally J wrote:
>> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D

>>
>> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
>>

>> It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be
>> inappropriate
>> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other)
>> videos.
>>
>> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
>> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?
>
> On a Linux terminal:
>
> yt-dlp "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8"
>

If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab. Mageia has it
in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.

It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.

https://clipgrab.org/

TJ

[Paul]

On 6/18/2023 9:09 AM, TJ wrote:

> If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab.  Mageia has it in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.
>
> It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.
>
> https://clipgrab.org/
>
> TJ

Gee, thanks :-/

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f980e92af3341650819ca6c985294ebe0aa78d38bdfe249536d7ec7f2efc6ecf

27 security vendors and no sandboxes flagged this file as malicious

Popular threat label adware.offercore/installcore

Don't do that, OK ?

That just makes work for us.

I cannot even disassemble that, because I keep getting blocked.

We know what that is, but if a support model for a software product
and a web site relies on *this way* of doing business, this is the year 2023,
and please to be fucking off now.

Paul (w10)

[MarioCPPP]

On 17/06/23 22:17, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
>> frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
>> youtube wanting people not to download.
>
> Their platform, their rules.

what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?


btw ... I adore your signature, I often mention it too

[Jolly Roger]

On 2023-06-18, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFran...@libero.it> wrote:
> On 17/06/23 22:17, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
>>> frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
>>> youtube wanting people not to download.
>>
>> Their platform, their rules.
>
> what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?

You mean by the people who create the content?

[Alan Browne]

Interesting. Then of course one has to ask "why" does "this" work. But
- please don't spend time on it!

[Paul]

On 6/18/2023 8:52 AM, MarioCPPP wrote:
> On 18/06/23 09:30, Andy Burns wrote:
>> MarioCPPP wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> switch to incognito/private tab
>>>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway email account)
>>>
>>> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require TELEPHONE number
>>
>> So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)
>
> we don't have here in Shitaly, alas

They're quite economical.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/

When I was riding on the public transit bus, a drug dealer had three
phones with him. He sat in his seat, and arranged a
burner phone to sit on each leg while seated. Presumably
the burner phones would receive SMS with orders.
(The display on each phone was running.)
His so-called "first-personal" phone was an iPhone
and kept in his vest pocket.

So I got to see what a real live villain looks like :-)

The man had an "assistant" who traveled with him, but
the assistant did not sit next to him. The assistant
was careful to sit at the other end of the bus. Such
OPSEC. They must have taken OPSEC courses, to get this good.

See, this is what happens when you can't afford a flash car.
You ride the bus, with your burner phones.

When I place my bus fare in the box, this is the
kind of entertainment I've come to expect.

Paul

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 23:02, Wally J wrote:

> The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.

Probably has to do with the $15B or so in revenue Apple make from Google
annually for Google to be the default search engine on Apple devices.

When businesses work together they tend to respect the terms and
conditions of their clients and thus block activity that contravenes the
T&C's of their client.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-17 23:50, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 16:16:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
>> obscure thing?
>
> It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so
> restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.

Not a walled garden no matter how much you shout it like Trump at a MAGA
rally.

iOS does plenty, in droves. Otherwise people would not buy iPhones.
In droves.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-18 10:19, MarioCPPP wrote:
> On 17/06/23 22:17, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2023-06-17 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated frequently. It is a
>>> war, people wanting to download, youtube wanting people not to download.
>>
>> Their platform, their rules.
>
> what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?

The owner of the content can delete it at any time.

The presentation of the content on YouTube has to follow their T&C's.

It's an adult world with adult rules.

> btw ... I adore your signature, I often mention it too

Stumbled upon it a month or so ago - hard to not like it!

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-18 10:48, Paul wrote:

> When I was riding on the public transit bus, a drug dealer had three
> phones with him. He sat in his seat, and arranged a
> burner phone to sit on each leg while seated. Presumably
> the burner phones would receive SMS with orders.
> (The display on each phone was running.)
> His so-called "first-personal" phone was an iPhone
> and kept in his vest pocket.
>
> So I got to see what a real live villain looks like :-)
>
> The man had an "assistant" who traveled with him, but
> the assistant did not sit next to him. The assistant
> was careful to sit at the other end of the bus. Such
> OPSEC. They must have taken OPSEC courses, to get this good.

Street gangs learn from bitter experience what to avoid and how to arm
themselves against arrest, and if arrested, that the charges be as
minimal as possible. (And often put the risky side (possession and
distribution) on kids under 18 so that the kids end up with clean
records after 18).

The series "The Wire" was quite good at baring such craftiness - and of
the police's chasing and counter-adapting.

> See, this is what happens when you can't afford a flash car.
> You ride the bus, with your burner phones.

Until this operation mode gets burned at least. Hard to craft an escape
from a public bus ...

> When I place my bus fare in the box, this is the
> kind of entertainment I've come to expect.

I'd avoid drawing the attention of the "entertainers"....

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:56:10 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

>>> Do you really think that every platform has to support every little
>>> obscure thing?
>>
>> It's not that iOS doesn't support every little thing but that iOS is so
>> restrained by the walled-garden limitations that it doesn't do anything.
>
> Not a walled garden no matter how much you shout it like Trump at a MAGA
> rally.
>
> iOS does plenty, in droves. Otherwise people would not buy iPhones.
> In droves.

This kind of endless lies about the operating system being able to do
something that it can't do only happens on the Apple newsgroups.

Never does this happen on the Windows, Linux or Android newsgroups.

All those excuses for why the walled garden locks out useful YouTube apps?
And still you haven't found any app that does what yt-dlp & newpipe do?
--
F'up set back to the newsgroups for people who didn't buy a walled garden.

[Paul]

There are two or three developers, who keep yt-dlp running on
a daily basis. They receive bug reports and site requests.
Some of the audience members, may do analysis and propose a fix
in their bug report, which reduces the work the developer
has to do. A single developer, couldn't keep up with the
workload. There are also people in the audience, who may
offer proposals for protocol workarounds.

For an organization like Debian (Ubuntu, LinuxMint), they like
to snapshot a release, remove the -U update option, and put it in
the distro tree. This means if you stay in-tree as a Linux user,
your software can get stale. Compared to other platforms where the users
are using the -U option.

I don't keep up on the details, so can't answer exactly how
they are getting around this. The software is capable of byte-range
requests, and it uses multiple threads to fetch a video and that
is why you get your video so quickly.

Bypassing an age-check, may involve "crafting a token" that
says you've been here before and by-the-way, you're eighteen.

Youtube may involve more than one domain, if you're checking
your browser for "footprints". I've seen a couple entries
in the DOM, but I don't know what put them there. And sometimes
when I check, there is only one DOM entry. I don't particularly
care about this topic, but when I'm browser-cleaning, I sometimes
notice weirdness like that.

Paul

[Alan Browne]

Apple is a lawfully run publicly traded company.

Google pay Apple about $15B per year for search engine prominence on
Apple products.

Google's T&C's make login and age confirmation a condition of watching
some YouTube content for legal reasons.

And Apple - it appears - enforce that where they can because they honour
their client's T&Cs.

Only the child-minds like yours go diving for edge cases with which to
attack Apple.

[Alan Browne]

Interesting stuff. As I don't use Linux unless forced to, I don't keep
up on the developments or the "culture" around it. My current Ubuntu is
20.04.2.0 ... so 2021 ...

Main reason I don't use Linux is the office apps I need (compatible with
clients and suppliers) and the absence of Photoshop.

Recent use of Linux was for an IDE I was using for Raspberry Pi
programming. It can now be re-compiled for Mac and so I use that
instead. Smoother for me.

[nospam]

In article <u6ls2n$3gvke$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Wally J

<walte...@invalid.nospam> wrote:

> All the suggested solutions provided an ad free & login free experience
> which allowed anyone to easily download that example age-restricted video.
>
> The only system so far without any suggested working solution is iOS.

working solutions for ios have been explained to your various nyms many
times in multiple threads. you continue to ignore all of it.

[nospam]

In article <u6n75r$3ml6v$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale

<inv...@is.invalid> wrote:

>
> All those excuses for why the walled garden locks out useful YouTube apps?

youtube apps are not locked out of the mythical walled garden.

> And still you haven't found any app that does what yt-dlp & newpipe do?

you've been told how to do what you claim to want to do and in several
different ways. why do you keep ignoring that, other than to troll and
push lies?

[nospam]

In article <u6n3p4$1m2ed$1...@dont-email.me>, MarioCPPP

<NoliMihiFran...@libero.it> wrote:

> >
> >> Some tools, and this is one, needs to be updated
> >> frequently. It is a war, people wanting to download,
> >> youtube wanting people not to download.
> >
> > Their platform, their rules.
>
> what about the ownership of the CONTENTS ?

what about it?

[Bob Campbell]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> working solutions for ios have been explained to your various nyms many
> times in multiple threads. you continue to ignore all of it.

To be fair, you can’t expect Arlen to remember every ridiculous claim and
contrived scenario he has dumped here. He is way too busy making up new
ridiculous claims and contrived scenarios, new nyms and finding new “free,
anonymous news servers” from which to dump his hundreds of ridiculous
claims and contrived scenarios, using ever-changing nyms.

He’s a very busy kid.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:30:17 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Bypassing an age-check, may involve "crafting a token" that
> says you've been here before and by-the-way, you're eighteen.

I suspect it's even simpler in that most of these google replacement apps
craft a fake user account which they give to everyone who uses the app.

An example is the aurora replacement for the Google Play Store has a series
of something like a thousand (or whatever number) of fake Google Accounts.

All they need to do when they register those fake accounts is set a DOB.

Every time I get apps for Windows Android, it uses a new account.
https://auroraoss.com/
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/

> Youtube may involve more than one domain, if you're checking
> your browser for "footprints". I've seen a couple entries
> in the DOM, but I don't know what put them there. And sometimes
> when I check, there is only one DOM entry. I don't particularly
> care about this topic, but when I'm browser-cleaning, I sometimes
> notice weirdness like that.

I think it's as simple as they say it is on the yt-dlp & newpipe site.
Same as it says on the Aurora site too (which replaces Google Play Store).

They use public APIs and they do NOT need to sign any Google agreements.
It's all open source so if Google could shut them down - they would have.

Only Apple can shut these things down. But not Windows, Linux or Android.

As a result of the walled garden those free open source solutions exist for
all platforms but iOS (only iOS users would put up with the walled garden).

That's yet again something that is super critically useful to everyone but
which is not available on iOS because iOS is a brain dead walled garden.

But the iOS users will say "nobody wants it" (even though everyone does).
They say that a lot. Because they can't do anything everyone else can do.

The iOS inability to do anything is always due to the walled garden limits.
--
(f'up set to remove the brain dead idiot iOS users from the cc list)

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:42:10 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> Only the child-minds like yours go diving for edge cases with which to
> attack Apple.

Notice that you call anyone who says the truth about Apple "child minds",
when it's you who can't find the app you lied about existing on iOS.

The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.

Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).
--
(f'up set to the operating systems where they don't lie about the OS)

[TJ]

No problem. Note that I made that post only on the Linux newsgroup.

I plead ignorance of the extent of Windows' extreme vulnerability. I
don't do Windows except under protest, so I had no idea of the site's
criminally immoral activities. Here, let me add a disclaimer:

WINDOWS USERS: WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT INSTALL CLIPGRAB AS DOWNLOADED
FROM THEIR SITE. IT WILL DO IRREPARABLE HARM TO YOUR SYSTEM! IT CLAIMS
TO BE CROSS PLATFORM, BUT IT IS A VICIOUS TRAP WAITING TO ENSNARE USERS
OF AN EASILY ATTACKED OS LIKE WINDOWS! BEWARE! BEWARE! BEWARE!

Linux users: If you install the app from your distro's repositories, you
should have no problems.

TJ

[nospam]

In article <u6nove$3ovns$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale

<inv...@is.invalid> wrote:

>
> They use public APIs and they do NOT need to sign any Google agreements.
> It's all open source so if Google could shut them down - they would have.

and they do. google is constantly changing how youtube apis work, which
can cause third party apps to become very slow and in some cases, not
working at all, forcing the developers to constantly update them.

> Only Apple can shut these things down. But not Windows, Linux or Android.

false.

try submitting a youtube downloading app that bypasses its terms of
service to the google play store and see how long it lasts.

hint: it won't be very long.

further, there *are* ways to do what you claim is impossible on ios,
which you've been told many times.

> As a result of the walled garden those free open source solutions exist for
> all platforms but iOS (only iOS users would put up with the walled garden).

go learn about what open source actually means before saying anything
else.

> That's yet again something that is super critically useful to everyone but
> which is not available on iOS because iOS is a brain dead walled garden.

it's not the mythical 'walled garden' that's brain dead.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-18 16:25, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:42:10 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Only the child-minds like yours go diving for edge cases with which to
>> attack Apple.
>
> Notice that you call anyone who says the truth about Apple "child minds",
> when it's you who can't find the app you lied about existing on iOS.

I never claimed there was an iOS app for the OP's issue. IAC, a lame
issue that is easily worked around using an alias account for those
desperate to do so.

> The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
> That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.

Edge case that only Apple Hater children care about.

> Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).

Clearly you failed to read the prior post with all the adult reasons why
Apple would block the narrow-edge case you're seeking to make.

Because:
1) iOS is not a walled garden - (but it is the best "eco system" for
busy people by far), and

2) Apple is a responsible company that respects its $15B/year client,
Google, and its T&C's.

But children like you have to use this little edge case as some "proof".
Really desperate. Laughably so.

(And you forgot to do something ... rattled, huh?)

[nospam]

In article <%eLjM.1405$JLp4...@fx46.iad>, Alan Browne

<bitb...@blackhole.com> wrote:

>
> > Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).
>
> Clearly you failed to read the prior post with all the adult reasons why
> Apple would block the narrow-edge case you're seeking to make.

he's ignoring that google will remove any app that violates its terms
of service or any of its properties, including youtube, just like
apple, microsoft and other companies.

[Chris Schram]

On 2023-06-17, Wally J <walte...@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> I want to watch a youtube video that asks me to sign in to confirm my age
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
>
> But I don't want to create a Youtube account that they can easily track.
>
> It says "Sign in to confirm your age" and "This video may be inappropriate
> for some users" but I want to see what is in this (and many other) videos.
>
> Can I watch that YouTube video on Windows, Linux or Android without
> creating a login that has to confirm my age and they can track me?

I'm replying at the very start of this message thread, because it has
turned into quite a mud fight. Apologies for not providing this
information earlier, and apologies if someone else suggested the same
thing. I have skipped most of the thread.

ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need.
<https://clipgrab.org>

--
chri...@me.com is a filtered spam magnet. Email replies may be lost.
You're better off replying to this newsgroup.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:07:54 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

>> The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
>> That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.
>
> Edge case that only Apple Hater children care about.

Your problem is there are literally thousands of app capabilities like that
one which everyone wants that are on all the other platforms.

But never on iOS.
Because of the walled garden.

No other reason.
The reason iOS lacks what every other platform has is that walled garden.

That's thousands of excuses you have to make for lack of iOS capability.
All due to the very real walled garden that you lied saying does not exist.
--
F'up set back to the newsgroups that aren't only for dumb iOS morons.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:40:29 -0400, nospam wrote:

>>> Everyone want it - but only iOS can't have it (due to the walled garden).
>>
>> Clearly you failed to read the prior post with all the adult reasons why
>> Apple would block the narrow-edge case you're seeking to make.
>
> he's ignoring that google will remove any app that violates its terms
> of service or any of its properties, including youtube, just like
> apple, microsoft and other companies.

In your fervent desire to make excuses for the lack of iOS functionality,
you've ignored that _all_ the functionality spoken here is on macOS.

Only iOS lacks this functionality.
It's on macOS. It's on Linux. It's on Windows. And it's on Android.

Like thousands of other useful functionalities - it's only missing on iOS.
--
F'up set to the newsgroups that don't lie to defend the honor of the OEM.

[nospam]

In article <u6ob52$3r5je$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale

<inv...@is.invalid> wrote:

> In your fervent desire to make excuses for the lack of iOS functionality,
> you've ignored that _all_ the functionality spoken here is on macOS.
>
> Only iOS lacks this functionality.

the only thing lacking is your ability to figure out how to do whatever
it is you supposedly want to do (other than trolling, which is the true
goal).

[bad sector]

On 6/17/23 06:22, MarioCPPP wrote:

> The telephone number scam is also hidden in some promotional offerings.
> An example : i have some non verified emails, and when trying to
> activate a couple of cloud extentions (the popular clones of google
> drive), entering a couple of emails not associated to numbers, the host
> required to use not better precised SAFER EMAILs :D :D :D
>
> They want to link every info, avery activity with a physical person.


They want much more than that, a streaming colonoscopy from everyone
7/24 :-)


all but alt.os.linux groups removed

[Incubus]

On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chri...@me.com> wrote:
> ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need.
> <https://clipgrab.org>

What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.

[Woozy Song]

Beyond the pale wrote:
>
> There are many FOSS youtube clients on Android, Windows & Linux.
> Some are almost perfect copies of the YouTube app (on Android).
> Others are downloaders (on Windows & Linux) which download the videos.
>

I find youtube-dl doesn't work for music videos for certain artistes.
I surmise they have borked the metadata so as to foil such tools.

[Carlos E.R.]

Reposting. I forgot to restore all the groups you removed.

AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-06-19 05:51, Woozy Song wrote:

[Chris Schram]

Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The
original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.

I must add, ClipGrab's instructions for transferring videos are years
out-of-date. One no longer needs to invoke iTunes, which essentially no
longer exists. There are simpler, faster ways now.

[Daniel65]

Paul wrote on 19/6/23 12:48 am:
> On 6/18/2023 8:52 AM, MarioCPPP wrote:
>> On 18/06/23 09:30, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> MarioCPPP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> switch to incognito/private tab
>>>>> create throwaway google account (for total paranoia use a throwaway
>>>>> email account)
>>>>
>>>> it seems to still be impossible, since they strictly require
>>>> TELEPHONE number
>>>
>>> So buy a burner phone with cash while wearing a balaclava :-)
>>
>> we don't have here in Shitaly, alas
>
> They're quite economical.
>
> https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/

>
> When I was riding on the public transit bus, a drug dealer had three
> phones with him. He sat in his seat, and arranged a
> burner phone to sit on each leg while seated. Presumably
> the burner phones would receive SMS with orders.
> (The display on each phone was running.)
> His so-called "first-personal" phone was an iPhone
> and kept in his vest pocket.
>
> So I got to see what a real live villain looks like :-)
>
> The man had an "assistant" who traveled with him, but
> the assistant did not sit next to him. The assistant
> was careful to sit at the other end of the bus. Such
> OPSEC. They must have taken OPSEC courses, to get this good.

Paul, how were you able to identify these two so, apparently, easily??
(I'm guessing there weren't queue forming in-front of either!)
Admittedly, I don't travel on PT all that often.
--
Daniel

[nospam]

In article <jmg5mj...@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.

<robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:

>
> AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.

that's because google kept making changes that broke it and they
stopped bothering to keep up.

[Incubus]

On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chri...@me.com> wrote:
>> What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
>
> Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad.

Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.

https://clipgrab.org/ suggestion seems to be a nice app as it says it
downloads via a GUI the videos for YouTube and FaceBook and says it
converts to all the industry standard formats MPEG4, MP3, WMV, OGG, FLV or
WebM (noticeably absent is the insane M4V that iPhones tend to use).

https://download.clipgrab.org/clipgrab-3.9.7-portable.exe
Name: clipgrab-3.9.7-portable.exe
Size: 73728520 bytes (70 MiB)
SHA256: 0AE8656F4C65673D75544CFF54721CBFC586EDD6E8B4B2A2070930684920411E

It puts 198.2 MB into C:\Program Files (x86)\ClipGrab

The only license it asks you to agree with are
ClipGrab licenses
QT licenses
GNU licenses (for ClipGrab, Qt and ffmpeg)

Notably absent are Google, Apple or Microsoft licenses to be agreed to.
I was surprised to see the venerable ffmpeg in that distribution since for
decades it seems I had to always add ffmpeg over lame due to legal
restrictions on distribution (did those USA/EU patents finally expire?)

I was surprised also when ClipGrab, upon first use, asks to install the
"youtube-dlp" (which I thought had been deprecated in favor of "yt-dlp".

It says "ClipGrab uses youtube-dlp in order to download videos from the
Internet. youtube-dlp is developed by an independent team of Open Source
developers and released into the public domain. Learn more on
github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp. Click on Continue to download youtube-dlp.

The relevant unpacked executables seem to be
Name: clipgrab.exe
Size: 1119744 bytes (1093 KiB)
SHA256: 10770DA581CC85D55A286D42A0428ACCAFE6C7910BC640CC4264DA7FB26DAFA4

Name: ffmpeg.exe
Size: 52176384 bytes (49 MiB)
SHA256: E79D9B4BD7B0420B974EB58EB15D6F072EE939F98ACC93314A4CC750C6B7099D

Name: python.exe
Size: 97808 bytes (95 KiB)
SHA256: CA9F2A394EA9A7E0EE58CC39C7F2DCEB4D539223DFBADA1124A215921B0D767D

I looked all over for a physical youtube-dl.exe but I couldn't find it.
I guess I should have run a before-and-after scan, but I didn't.

Perhaps it incorporated the youtube-dl into the executable?
(Again, I should have run a before and after hash, but I didn't).

> The original poster did not seem to need that.

The original poster wasn't clear since the op didn't ask but the ng list
included the iphone users (who have caused all the unnecessary ruckus).

Their chosen platform is nirvana for them but it doesn't work for them so
what they do is make excuses saying they never need to do anything on it.

Since ClipGrab uses a youtube downloader and since it also uses ffmpeg,
what I think it adds to the mix above what we already have is the GUI.

That's probably what the Python was for. The GUI does a search, for
example, based on keywords you can enter. So I entered the keywords
"Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches" which gave me a nice display
of 16 videos with a large thumbnail for each, along with the description.

It was very easy to use & see (which is a wonderful feature of the GUI).

I had to go back to the OP to find what the original age-restricted URL was
as none of the thumbnails were blurred out as they would have likely been.

The original URL is crazy long for some reason unknown to me though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D
And it didn't like that in the keyword field as it brought me to a
different tab called the downloads tab which then said "Please wait while
ClipGrab is loading information about this video" and then it found it in a
few seconds (maybe ten seconds).

There were format pulldowns for "Original, mpeg4, wmv (Windows), ogg
theora, mp3 (audio only), ogg Vorbis (audio only), original (audio only)".

I guess that means it can rip audio but not save to the insane Apple M4A
format so I pity the Apple user who may need yet another conversion try.

The quality pulldown had 1080p (HD), 720p (HD), 480p, 360p, 240p, 144p.
I left everything at the default (Original format & 1080p quality).

It saved "Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight
caught on camera Watch" so fast that I was left wondering what happened.
Name: Russian troops enter Ukraine Army trenches; Face-to-face fight caught on camera Watch.mp4
Size: 48846859 bytes (46 MiB)
SHA256: 03872036E01D2283E7B6A6237E3521553EFFCFC6EEB9A0A0049A42F876783A03

Maybe I missed it as my speakers were off at the time but I didn't hear
anything or see anything happen but when I looked in the download folder
a few seconds after hitting the button to get it, it was there.

Afterward I noticed a pulldown that you can place on the file name asking
"Open downloaded file, Open target folder, Copy video link, Open video link
in browser" (which was when I realized my speakers were turned off!).

The video itself is uninteresting but what's important is that there was no
request for me to prove my age, nor any attempt to make me log in to yt.

All in all, what I think ClipGrab adds to the toolbox is a very nice
graphical interface to run the youtube downloader, with search & rip.

You don't have to remember all the different command line options for that.

> And yes, sometimes an App Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.

One has to wonder why Apple lets the same useful apps that people put on
Windows, Linux and Android onto the Mac but never onto the iOS devices.

> I must add, ClipGrab's instructions for transferring videos are years
> out-of-date. One no longer needs to invoke iTunes, which essentially no
> longer exists. There are simpler, faster ways now.

What's the opposite of telling iTunes to rest in peace? Burn in Hell? :->
Likewise that insane M4V format Apple users may need can burn in Hell.

"M4V essentially stores videos that have been downloaded from the Apple
iTunes store. While this file format has some similarities to MP4, it is
subject to Apple's FairPlay DRM copyright protection-users can't play M4V
files that are copy-protected without authorization. You'll need an account
with iTunes." https://www.videostudiopro.com/en/pages/m4v-file/

Overall, this ClipGrab package wraps a rather nice GUI around the youtube
downloader and the ffmpeg converter, and as that, it's a nice tool indeed!

Thank you for finding something that most of us never knew about before
since this topic was covered many times but ClipGrab wasn't part of it.

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-06-19 19:39, Incubus wrote:
> On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chri...@me.com> wrote:
>>> What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
>>
>> Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad.
>
> Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.

...

> I had to go back to the OP to find what the original age-restricted URL was
> as none of the thumbnails were blurred out as they would have likely been.
>
> The original URL is crazy long for some reason unknown to me though.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSrXOkCRd8&pp=ygUWdWtyYWluZSB0cmVuY2ggd2FyZmFyZQ%3D%3D

Cut here:....................................^


The rest may be tracking information.

The search keyword is "9SSrXOkCRd8"

...

> Overall, this ClipGrab package wraps a rather nice GUI around the youtube
> downloader and the ffmpeg converter, and as that, it's a nice tool indeed!
>
> Thank you for finding something that most of us never knew about before
> since this topic was covered many times but ClipGrab wasn't part of it.

It would be interesting to find out what version of the youtube
downloader it got.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 21:46:49 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> Only iOS lacks this functionality.
>
> the only thing lacking is your ability to figure out how to do whatever
> it is you supposedly want to do (other than trolling, which is the true
> goal).

I realize you have to resort to lies to defend why iOS can't do it, and
that you have to say that you never do anything on iOS that everyone does
on the other platforms because the walled garden prevents you from that.

But let's give you the benefit of the doubt that you're telling the truth.

Point to the URL to the app on the iOS Apple app store that does what the
op asked which is watch age-restricted youtube videos without an account.
--
No need to set the f'up as the Apple crazies aren't on these newsgroups.

[Falafel Balls]

On 19/6/2023, nospam wrote:

>> AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.
>
> that's because google kept making changes that broke it and they
> stopped bothering to keep up.

All the apps that do what people want but which Google doesn't want them to
do have this same problem, not the least of which is because Google has
access to the complete source code so Google knows EXACTLY how they work.

That would be, for example, the youtube downloaders that were suggested.
https://newpipe.net/ & https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

It also includes the Google Play Store apps which get the APKs from the
Google repositories but without needing to use the Google Play Store app.
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore & https://auroraoss.com/

None of them require you to create a google account and yet all of them
give you 100% (exactly!) the same exact apps & videos as the Google app.

Most people don't seem to realize that it's not a separate store for
example, or separate videos - but the EXACT videos & apps on the Google
servers. This is because these apps always use the Google public APIs.

It's not like the Samsung store, or the Amazon store where the apps are
different. And it's not like the APK mirrors either, which are copies.

It's the same app as on the Google Play Store or video in the YouTube GUI.
The only thing different is the GUI is not restricted by Google.

Specifically the GUI allows you to wach/dl anything you want, whether or
not Google wants you to access it (such as with age-restricted videos).

But you're right that Google doesn't like these apps and GUI's because they
allow the user to do what the user wants to do and not what google wants.

Once a year or maybe lately only once every couple of years, Google changes
something in their public API which causes those apps to play catch up.

It generally takes them a couple of days to catch up & update the apps.
The result is we all get generally useful apps doing exactly what we want.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 17:23:34 -0400, nospam wrote:

> further, there *are* ways to do what you claim is impossible on ios,

Assuming you're not lying, just point to the URL of an iOS app on the App
Store that does what the OP asked for - which is view age-restricted videos
without needing to create a google account to watch those blurred videos.

[nospam]

In article <u6q5rf$39fd$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale

<inv...@is.invalid> wrote:

>
> >> Only iOS lacks this functionality.
> >
> > the only thing lacking is your ability to figure out how to do whatever
> > it is you supposedly want to do (other than trolling, which is the true
> > goal).
>
> I realize you have to resort to lies to defend why iOS can't do it, and
> that you have to say that you never do anything on iOS that everyone does
> on the other platforms because the walled garden prevents you from that.
>
> But let's give you the benefit of the doubt that you're telling the truth.
>
> Point to the URL to the app on the iOS Apple app store that does what the
> op asked which is watch age-restricted youtube videos without an account.

you've been told how to do that many times before and each time you
ignore it or you fail to follow very simple and explicit instructions.
why would yet another explanation be any different? it won't.

it's also not that difficult to figure out, something you are incapable
of doing on your own.

you're not interested in a solution.

your goal is to troll.

[Incubus]

On 2023-06-18, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> If a GUI is preferred, the OP might want to try ClipGrab.  Mageia has it in their repositories, so other Linux distros probably do, too.
>>
>> It's available for many platforms, including Mac, but not iOS devices.
>>
>> https://clipgrab.org/
>>
>> TJ
>
> Gee, thanks :-/
> https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f980e92af3341650819ca6c985294ebe0aa78d38bdfe249536d7ec7f2efc6ecf
> 27 security vendors and no sandboxes flagged this file as malicious
> Popular threat label adware.offercore/installcore
> Don't do that, OK ? That just makes work for us.
> I cannot even disassemble that, because I keep getting blocked.
> We know what that is, but if a support model for a software product
> and a web site relies on *this way* of doing business, this is the year 2023,
> and please to be fucking off now.

I haven't seen a virus/PUP in years on Windows 10 so I'm confused by that.

I briefly tested the ClipGrab portable app for Windows 10 from clipgrab.org
https://download.clipgrab.org/clipgrab-3.9.7-portable.exe

And wrote up my experience with the OP's age-restricted video over here.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux/c/OEwyZxrNb7M/m/uxFD5rRbAAAJ

Windows Defender didn't complain but maybe it contains PUPs?
How do I feed the executable to the virus scanner to check?

I right clicked on it and selected the option to run Microsoft Defender.
It found nothing.

What's the best way to check the exe for viruses once already installed?

Name: clipgrab.exe
Size: 1119744 bytes (1093 KiB)

CRC32: 29706482
CRC64: B758CFA1D539BBEB
SHA256: 10770DA581CC85D55A286D42A0428ACCAFE6C7910BC640CC4264DA7FB26DAFA4
SHA1: FB34BA0178B5764B6CCC9D228796196EE172980E
BLAKE2sp: E7308788181036FBED841E8DD33C1F873609B9710D92D7759AE8FBCC2E7E90A7

[Beyond the pale]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:43:27 -0400, nospam wrote:

> you're not interested in a solution.

Point to the URL to that app on the iOS Apple app store that does what the
op asked (which is watch age-restricted youtube videos without an account).

[Lord Vader]

On 6/19/2023 5:39 PM, Incubus wrote:

> I looked all over for a physical youtube-dl.exe but I couldn't find it.
> I guess I should have run a before-and-after scan, but I didn't.
>
> Perhaps it incorporated the youtube-dl into the executable?
> (Again, I should have run a before and after hash, but I didn't).

Is there a way to run a before and then after scan of an installer?
And would it pick it up if the yt dlp was merged into the executable?

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-06-19 20:30, Falafel Balls wrote:
> On 19/6/2023, nospam wrote:
>
>>> AFAIR youtube-dl development stalled, so yt-dlp was forked.
>>
>> that's because google kept making changes that broke it and they
>> stopped bothering to keep up.
>
> All the apps that do what people want but which Google doesn't want them to
> do have this same problem, not the least of which is because Google has
> access to the complete source code so Google knows EXACTLY how they work.
>
> That would be, for example, the youtube downloaders that were suggested.
> https://newpipe.net/ & https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
>
> It also includes the Google Play Store apps which get the APKs from the
> Google repositories but without needing to use the Google Play Store app.
> https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore & https://auroraoss.com/
>
> None of them require you to create a google account and yet all of them
> give you 100% (exactly!) the same exact apps & videos as the Google app.
>
> Most people don't seem to realize that it's not a separate store for
> example, or separate videos - but the EXACT videos & apps on the Google
> servers. This is because these apps always use the Google public APIs.

Of course we know it is the same videos, otherwise we would not use the
downloaders.

...


--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Falafel Balls]

On 20/6/2023, Carlos E.R. wrote:

>> Most people don't seem to realize that it's not a separate store for
>> example, or separate videos - but the EXACT videos & apps on the Google
>> servers. This is because these apps always use the Google public APIs.
>
> Of course we know it is the same videos, otherwise we would not use the
> downloaders.

Do people know that? I've seen people like Vanguard complain they don't
want a "copy" even though they're the EXACT videos and APKs on Google.

They're NOT copies.
But I've seen people complain that they think they are copies.

Mostly they're just afraid. They think they're not getting the originals.

They're confused probably because some methods of obtaining APKs and videos
are copies but the methods that were explain in this thread get originals.

So not everyone knows that they're the same videos and the same APKs.

The only thing different is the GUI that pulls them from the server.

YouTube GUI <===> yt-dlp command line <===> ClipGrab GUI <===> Newpipe GUI
Google Play Store GUI <===> Aurora Store GUI

Same original files. Different GUIs (and enforced rules) to get them.

[Mickey D]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 09:45:58 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

>> for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
>
> are you *certain* you're not already signed-in to any other google web
> property? check with a firefox private tab ...

To put it bluntly, that poster named Alan repeatedly lied.

I would normally defer to the benefit of the doubt that he's just stupid,
but since he lied about everything else he said on this thread, he's lying
about not having been logged in the entire time into his Google account.

He was logged into his Google account the entire time he said he wasn't.

Why he lied is not known to us, but it's clear he has been lying all along
about what he says iOS can do when he tells us that the reason iOS can't do
it is because Apple makes all that money selling iPhones to people.

Isn't that crazy?
He tells us that iOS can do what it can't do.

Because Apple's profits are so high?
WTF?

If his excuse above makes no sense to normal people, join the club.
The iOS users never belong on any functionality thread with normal users.

It's the common excuse of all the Apple nutjobs that Apple's profits alone
mean that the iPhone can do what everyone already knows it never does.

Who thinks that way but a nutjob?

Which is why the op should have omitted the iPhone nutjobs, because they
can't stand that they have to make excuses for iOS every time someone asks
for something that every other device (including the Mac) does easily.

They don't realize that the walled garden is very real & very restrictive
(mainly they tell us they never do anything on iOS everyone else does).

Their excuse is "nobody wants it" (even though normal people do want it)
but that excuse that "nobody needs it" is because they can't do it on iOS.

[Beyond the pale]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 13:02:06 -0400, nospam wrote:

> youtube apps are not locked out of the mythical walled garden.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-18 21:25, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:07:54 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> The app doesn't exist on iOS (but it exists on _every_ other platform!).
>>> That means your common excuse for iOS being brain dead won't work here.
>>
>> Edge case that only Apple Hater children care about.
>
> Your problem is there are literally thousands of app capabilities like that
> one which everyone wants that are on all the other platforms.
>
> But never on iOS.

"thousands"? Wow - show me a few dozen.

> No other reason.
> The reason iOS lacks what every other platform has is that walled garden.

So, other than iOS being compliant to its client's T&C's, please show me
a few dozen cases (you say literally thousands so shouldn't be an issue,
right?) of apps or capabilities that don't exist on iOS.

> That's thousands of excuses you have to make for lack of iOS capability.

Thousands! Give us 2 dozen.

> All due to the very real walled garden that you lied saying does not exist.

There is no walled garden. There is a great eco-system though - one
that Android/PC/Linux users can only salivate over.

--
“If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
-Ronald Coase

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-19 05:54, Chris Schram wrote:
> On 2023-06-19, Incubus <u953...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chri...@me.com> wrote:
>>> ClipGrab, an app for Mac/Windows/Linux does what you need.
>>> <https://clipgrab.org>
>>
>> What's hilarious is what it says about the iPad on that web site.
>
> Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The
> original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
> Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.

Google is Apple's client and is billed roughly $15B / year by Apple for
the privilege of being the default search engine on Apple products.

So, no surprise that Apple honours Google's YouTube T&Cs - indeed it may
be required that Apple do so - in apps for iOS/iPad.

[Beyond the pale]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:50:44 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

>> But never on iOS.
>
> "thousands"? Wow - show me a few dozen.

Download youtube videos as per the op's original requirements for one.

Change your app launcher on iOS for another.
Change your app store app on iOS for another still.
Change your default messenger app on iOS for yet another.
Spoof the gps location on iOS for another.
Torrent on iOS for yet another.
Use the real tor browser on iOS for one more.
Use a different iOS contacts manager for your phone dialer for another.
Hell, using a phone dialer of your choice on iOS is another.
Really turn off the iPhone (not just the screen) is yet another.
Running a system wide firewall on iOS is still another iOS can't do.
Also just graphing you wifi signal on iOS is yet another you can't do.
Adding command line access like Termux is another you can't do on iOS.
If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.
Speaking of backup, you can't backup your entire homescreen, every file,
every folder, everthing, to copy it to ANY other phone, now can you?

And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.

As you said, iOS is only a toy.
It doesn't actually do anything.

No other platform has these walled garden strict limitations but iOS.

For every one, your excuse is you don't need to do that, even though every
other platform can do them (because they're generally useful things to do).

Your excuse is that you don't do anything on iOS. It's nothing but a toy.
And that's the only thing you've ever said on this thread which is true.

>> No other reason.
>> The reason iOS lacks what every other platform has is that walled garden.
>
> So, other than iOS being compliant to its client's T&C's, please show me
> a few dozen cases (you say literally thousands so shouldn't be an issue,
> right?) of apps or capabilities that don't exist on iOS.

Those above are off the top of my head but I can easily add more & more.

Just having two app icons in two different folders on iOS you can't do.
You can't put iOS app icons on any grid even if you wanted to do that.
And you can't rename an app icon on iOS that is for an installed app.
Making shortcuts to any public page inside any app you can't do either.
You can't even rotate the mac address on every wifi connection on iOS.
You can't extract APKs on one phone and put them onto another phone.
And you can't install the same app on any phone you want to put it on.
If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.
Installing apps without needing to log into any app server is another.
Connecting to native Windows & copying DCIM image & video files both ways.
Hell, copying ANY files both ways with USB into native windows on iOS is
another thing every platform has no problem with but iOS can't do it.

And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.

You'll say you don't do anything on iOS so you don't need to do those.
And that's true.

To you, iOS is just a toy.
Which is why you mentioned that iOS doesn't have to do anything because
Apple makes so much money off of you iOS zealots. And that's true.

What you're saying is not only is iOS just a toy.
It's an expensive toy that Apple makes something like 50% profit on.

Good for Apple.

>> That's thousands of excuses you have to make for lack of iOS capability.
>
> Thousands! Give us 2 dozen.

Now it's your turn to name something you can do on iOS that you can't do on
the other platforms, and no, you don't get to add a $3K expensive computer
just to be able to do what everyone else can do with the phone alone.

>> All due to the very real walled garden that you lied saying does not exist.
>
> There is no walled garden. There is a great eco-system though - one
> that Android/PC/Linux users can only salivate over.

If you don't see the walled garden, then you're either stupid, a liar, or,
more than likely, if you really believe the walled garden doesn't exist,
then you're only using iPhone as a toy that does nothing useful.

What can you do on iOS that doesn't need both the walled garden account and
the walled garden Mac computer or walled garden Apple watch, to do?

If the answer is "nothing", you've proven my point for me, haven't you.
--
F'up set to remove the walled garden defenders of Apple's lost honor.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-18 04:45, Andy Burns wrote:

> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> for me it worked (Firefox/Linux).
>
> are you *certain* you're not already signed-in to any other google web
> property?   check with a firefox private tab ...

Not sure why I even mentioned Firefox there. It's not pertinent.

I accessed the video using the command line (in terminal of course)
provided by Carlos.

And it worked - DL'd the video and it played - w/o issue for being
logged in. How would one be "logged in" to Google if one is running a
freshly installed command-line program in Linux?

So, just repeated the process - screenshot below is a YouTube attempt to
get the vid via Firefox, and as you can see it wants Sign In.

Below that a terminal is open and I use Carlos' command to download the
video - and I don't get the must be signed in error.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/snfywjjiy1yy4wf/YTFilm.png

Why this is different than Paul's experience - IDK.

[Chris Schram]

On 2023-06-19, Incubus <u953...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2023-06-19, Chris Schram <chri...@me.com> wrote:

> Your suggestion to use ClipGrab turned out to be a great idea for PCs.

Nice review of ClipGrab for PC. I recommended this app because the Mac
version works well for me, and I was hoping the experience on other
platforms would be the same.

> One has to wonder why Apple lets the same useful apps that people put on
> Windows, Linux and Android onto the Mac but never onto the iOS devices.

The ClipGrab website makes no mention that their app is available on ANY
mobile device. Google wants you to view their ads on YouTube, so they
try their best to make it inconvenient to eliminate them, not just on
iOS but on Android as well.

Apple ain't no fool when it comes to allowing ANY app to run on a Mac.
It's always been that way. Since they started beefing up security years
ago, it is now necessary to jump through a tiny hoop the first time one
launches a "non-notarized" app.

[Alan Browne]

On 2023-06-19 16:29, Beyond the pale wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:50:44 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> But never on iOS.
>>
>> "thousands"? Wow - show me a few dozen.
>
> Download youtube videos as per the op's original requirements for one.
>
> Change your app launcher on iOS for another.

- Why? There are apps. They get launched. All is good.

> Change your app store app on iOS for another still.

- Can't - Apple ecosystem uses AppStore as part of the security model.
And that is a great thing.

> Change your default messenger app on iOS for yet another.

- All sorts of messenger apps on iOS. In the meantime there is nothing
better than Apple Messages for security between iOS ecosystem.

> Spoof the gps location on iOS for another.

- Why would one want to do that?

> Torrent on iOS for yet another.

Apple bans torrents for copyright reasons. Adults. (That said,
torrenting is somewhat lame these days and usually best done from a
desktop using various other apps).
And of course there are workarounds.

> Use the real tor browser on iOS for one more.

WebKit issues - so use Onion Browser instead. No biggie.

Also one can use various VPN's on iOS.

> Use a different iOS contacts manager for your phone dialer for another.

One of my clients uses OpenPhone and I've tried it - works fine and
optionally accesses iOS Contacts if needed.

> Hell, using a phone dialer of your choice on iOS is another.

Big whoop (plus see above).

> Really turn off the iPhone (not just the screen) is yet another.

Easy peasy. Can't you read instructions?

> Running a system wide firewall on iOS is still another iOS can't do.

Implicit in the system.

> Also just graphing you wifi signal on iOS is yet another you can't do.

True. But it's 2023 - haven't grown up yet?

> Adding command line access like Termux is another you can't do on iOS.

Wow - why would I even want command line in a freaking portable phone?
Oh, it's just another silly edge case of no concern to real people.

> If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.

All backed up.

> Speaking of backup, you can't backup your entire homescreen, every file,
> every folder, everthing, to copy it to ANY other phone, now can you?

No real need to. Just need to backup whatever is originated in the
phone. Photos/vids, docs, notes, etc. and so on.

> And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.

Which are all very narrow use cases (above) that the -vast- majority of
people do not need or want. Otherwise iPhones would not be selling so
well ...

Sort of like Linux - It's so great and free! But hasn't got much
desktop marketplace. (Great in embedded, servers, appliances, etc. and
so on...)

>
> As you said, iOS is only a toy.
> It doesn't actually do anything.

Yet thousands of useful apps for people who are busy every day and use
their iPhones in the pursuit of happiness and business.

Odd that - I guess your narrow use cases are not much of a concern for
the adults of the world.

>
> No other platform has these walled garden strict limitations but iOS.

Restrictions that improve security, simplicity and reliability of the
phone are fine with me and most people.

It's a life tool. Not a hacker's tool kit.

>
> For every one, your excuse is you don't need to do that, even though every
> other platform can do them (because they're generally useful things to do).

No they are not "generally" useful. What you point out above are narrow
edge case uses.

Adults don't need them.

> Your excuse is that you don't do anything on iOS. It's nothing but a toy.
> And that's the only thing you've ever said on this thread which is true.

I've never said it's a toy. I will say it's an appliance. So I'm more
concerned that it does the things I need and do them well and seamlessly.

I posted a "short" list the other day ...

<<DRIVEL SNIPPED/TL;DR>>

> If the answer is "nothing", you've proven my point for me, haven't you.

Not at all. Only that you've compiled a nice short list of edge case
things that don't apply to productive, happy adults.

Anyway, if that pile of shit makes you cry victory - cry loud!

[Beyond the pale]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:59:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> - Why would one want to do that?

You asked for dozens of things the iPhone couldn't do that _every_ other
operating system easily does - and you got it off the top of my head.

There are _thousands_ upon thousands of things the iPhone can't do
that all the other operating systems easily do.

And yet, there's _nothing_ the iPhone can do without logging into billions
of dollars of servers or without adding thousands of dollars of additional
computer hardware like a mac and a watch that any Android can't also do.

If you deny the existence of the walled garden, then do you have any idea
why it's only iOS that can't do what every other operating system does?
--
f'up set again to remove the iPhone users who belong on Apple ngs.

[Charles Jack Jones]

On 20-06-2023 01:25 Alan Browne <bitb...@blackhole.com> wrote:

>> Yes, there will probably never be a version of ClipGrab for iPad. The
>> original poster did not seem to need that. And yes, sometimes an App
>> Store rule make us Apple fans scratch our heads.
>
> Google is Apple's client and is billed roughly $15B / year by Apple for
> the privilege of being the default search engine on Apple products.
>
> So, no surprise that Apple honours Google's YouTube T&Cs - indeed it may
> be required that Apple do so - in apps for iOS/iPad.

What I find interesting is how Trumpian this Alan guy is when he says
"Apple honors Google's YouTube T&Cs" and yet, Apple clearly does not.

Maybe this Alan guy doesn't know all this stuff works just fine on the mac.

Why is it only iOS that can't do what every other OS does (even the mac)?
--
I'll betcha this Alan guy has very small hands and thinning blond hair.

[nospam]

In article <u6qdpt$4ehg$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Beyond the pale

<inv...@is.invalid> wrote:

> Really turn off the iPhone (not just the screen) is yet another.

just what do you think the side button does?

rule of holes: stop digging.

> Running a system wide firewall on iOS is still another iOS can't do.

very much false.

that's very easy to do and just as effective and manage than what's
available on android, if not more so.

you're doing a lot of digging. do you need a backhoe?

> Also just graphing you wifi signal on iOS is yet another you can't do.

wrong, and that just became a lot easier with charts.

it's also not needed since modern wifi routers auto-configure
themselves in a mesh setup, with some of them using a floor plan to
optimize it. manually doing it on a phone (or even with a wifi
analyzer) is outdated and foolish (which is why you want to do it).

> Adding command line access like Termux is another you can't do on iOS.

wrong.

> If you didn't back up an IPA, you're dead if it's not on the app store.

just like with android.

fortunately, it's *easier* to back up ios apps along with everything
else, without any user interaction if desired (or it can be user
initiated). doing the same thing on android is far more involved and
not as complete. again, you like making things as difficult as
possible.

> Speaking of backup, you can't backup your entire homescreen, every file,
> every folder, everthing, to copy it to ANY other phone, now can you?

sure can, again, to another computer, the cloud, or both, without any
user interaction if desired. another option is copying everything
directly between devices, often used when migrating from an old phone
to a new one.

> And the list goes on and on about what only iOS can't do.

more accurately, the list goes on and on about what *you* personally
can't do, not anything about device, the os or the company.

that's only because you have no idea how things work and refuse to
learn, in addition to trolling.

> As you said, iOS is only a toy.
> It doesn't actually do anything.

more than 1 billion people disagree, with apple having some of the
highest customer satisfaction rates in the industry.

> No other platform has these walled garden strict limitations but iOS.

the only limitations are self-imposed.

> Those above are off the top of my head but I can easily add more & more.

rule of holes: stop digging.

how many backhoes do you need?

> Just having two app icons in two different folders on iOS you can't do.

very easy.

> Making shortcuts to any public page inside any app you can't do either.

that's only possible on android *if* the app offers the ability, just
like on ios, liar.

it's also easy to do on ios, again, if the app offers the ability.
imagine that.

not surprisingly, you are oblivious to the many things ios can do that
android cannot, including tap-to-pay, continuity & handoff, universal
control, sidecar, homekit, icloud wifi calling, share extensions, samba
server without rooting and personal voice (along with many more).

of course, you'll ignorantly dismiss them by calling them a gimmick,
trademark, etc., because you quite literally have *no* idea just how
capable ios devices actually are. i guess you're too busy rearranging
icons into cutesy patterns to do much else. meanwhile, the rest of the
world is doing real work.

[nospam]

In article <u6qfb1$25ns9$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris Schram

<chri...@me.com> wrote:

> Google wants you to view their ads on YouTube, so they
> try their best to make it inconvenient to eliminate them, not just on
> iOS but on Android as well.

google does that for all platforms, as do other sites, including
reddit, twitter and others.

despite that, there are ways to block ads, including on ios (despite
the troll's ignorant and uninformed claims it can't be done).

youtube in particular is a bit tricky since the ads are served from the
same servers as the videos.

> Apple ain't no fool when it comes to allowing ANY app to run on a Mac.
> It's always been that way. Since they started beefing up security years
> ago, it is now necessary to jump through a tiny hoop the first time one
> launches a "non-notarized" app.

yep.