Oregon Gold
golddigger
darthpup
rigger
> Does anyone know any good prospecting spots in western Oregon?
Hi Golddigger.
You might try the following link:
http://www.oregongeology.com/sub/pub&data/pub&data.htm
This should take you to one of the State of Oregon's
geological sites where you can find links to all types of
information, including historical data.
And much of this information is totally free. Take a look
at their 6 year geological mapping plan (going into year
four IIRC) and you'll be amazed.
This will give you good solid information, unlike some
other sources. If you google a little I imagine you can
find clubs (such as the New '49ers) who have claims
in your area of interest and who will be glad to indicate
the productive areas. Then you have a choice of joining
or looking about the areas yourself.
On the other hand I'd suggest you not waste your time
with useless, detail lacking, maps.
dennis
in nca
darthpup
rigger
> You Dennis:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prisons/browse_thread/thread/eb979...
I'm not sure what you posted moron-boy because
I don't click on sites posted by scamming idiots, such
as yourself. However I'm sure it has something to do
with the fact I've pointed out to several people how to
avoid treasure map scams such as I feel you offer.
What could be more ludicrous: An idiot spammer,
attempting to use a "USER" group for free advertising
and who then becomes upset when people ask
questions? Raises some questions such as: Why,
if a product is legitimate, would the person trying to
market same avoid all detail of what he's trying to
collect your hard-earned money for? I'd say there is
little or no value to the "secret" being sold.
Anyone can make-up stories. It's whether the stories
have any value that means something. If I were to
say much evidence points to increased levels of gold
bearing gravels in an area covering hundreds of square
miles my statement may be true but of absolutly no
use to the gold prospector, unless he happens to be
a large corporation with unlimited resources; not too
many here fit this description I'd wager.
So darth (vader) I'd suggest you do more homework
in order to provide decent information, or better yet,
fade into the woodwork and (hopefully) someone
who knows what they're doing will come along with
something of value to offer, you insulting pup.
dennis
in nca
darthpup
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:27:14
I don't know if you remember me or not. I was
the young guy who
was thrilled to learn that gold existed in the state of Virginia and
you were so
kind to help me by sending me free maps of areas known of gold
regions. I don't
mean to offend you but I was skeptical at first of the areas you
highlighted on
the maps because most of the old gold hunters out there in Mineral and
Louisa said
gold is more east away from the mountains well I wanted to share this
picture with you.
I went down a back road after work just to take a short cut someone
told me there was
a old quarry near by long time ago I couldn't find it but did stumble
on a mountain
stream here in Charlottesville which to my surprise had old trash and
debris around
it but the creek was beautiful I looked down into it and found yellow
all over I don't
know if its pyrite flakes or gold flakes but most of the bank of the
stream is covered
with quartz rocks all over and the stream is loaded with it there is
black sand
everywhere to I went once but I'm going back again. I'm not doing it
for the money
I'm doing this for history if these guys from the past could do this
with shovels
and buckets and left during the California gold rush and got shut down
during the
civil war maybe I could go out and find some to. I think its such a
cool thing
history and the way things are today people don't think much of it or
think that
it doesn't exist anymore but something in my heart tells me to keep
pressing on
in this pursuit. Before I go out I always say a prayer to God to take
me to the right spots. Well now that
I wrote you a book I want you to take a look at some of these pics I
have and wanted
to share. I'm keeping my promise with you if I find some gold your
getting some I
thought that was a wonderful thing you did sending me all that
material and paid
postage your the best a promise is a promise keep me in your prayers
thanks.
rigger
Thanks for the reply.
So in Nov. of '06 you gave someone some free maps and......????
We're all waiting to hear the exciting outcome. Or perhaps this
is where the story ends, with much excitement followed by
a disappointment?
It was nice of you to go out of your way to help this person
but you don't say if there was any fee involved which would
make it just another part of your money-making venture and
not the act of a philanthropist, as you might have us believe.
But in the spirit of good fellowship we can assume you did
help "the young guy" <amchi...@mailexcite.com> at no
expense to him. That's one.......?? Or perhaps this is
where the story ends for you, but perhaps not for others.
While getting outdoors and having good experiences while
we prospect for gold is a worthwhile endevor we also like
to find gold as well.
This reminds me of the optical/toy companies who sell
toy telescopes and microscopes to kids parents while
promoting 300X or 600X magnification. This leads the
parents, and their kids, into believing they have something
of value when all it is is a barely useable toy with "hype",
followed by more disappointment and the realization
they've been sold a bill-of-goods with fancy packaging.
You see, although the item may indeed have 300 or 600
power, the manufacturer "forgets" to tell the buyer
nothing can be identified because of the poor quality of
the optics. This is an old story. Is it your intent to
disappoint people while taking (no freebies listed on line
at this time, I see) their money?
Or do you feel sending people off on wild goose chases
is somehow funny?
Prove me wrong and I'll give you the best apology you've
ever received, followed by my unabashed promotion of
your product. If not we'll know you as the scammer you
will prove yourself to be.
dennis
in nca
Re...@group.only
Dennis,
Doesn't the Buyer have a responsibility here ? You know, Caveat
Emptor. Show me one on-line video for any Gold Equipment co. that
doesn't show a nice clean-up with their products. And those little
cheapie books on Gold Prospecting - They probably aren't any more
helpful than generalized maps of "gold fields". Heck, it's well known
that the big money-makers during the Calif. Gold Rush weren't the
miners, it was the Merchants who sold them the goods for prospecting.
Mind you, I'm not taking Darthpup's side as such. I'm just saying that
I think dealing with this stuff is part and parcel of learning the
trade. I liked what you said about telescopes. When I was a kid it was
the Edmund Scientific Company that people would get the "cheap"
'scopes from - but Edmund stuff wasn't crap just not very powerful or
accurate. When you were ready to step up a a bigger scope you might
grind your own lenses and make your own. Edmund's still out there
but people don't want genuine instrumentation even if it's simple,
they want toys. And so toy-science is what they get.
Crap in, crap out.
You got me on my Soap-Box Bub. I'll shut up now,
Andrew
rigger
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi Andrew.
You're right, Caveat Emptor is commonly known as the refuge
of cheats, liars and thieves, but this doesn't mean we have to
go along with their schemes. In fact it's not against the law to
point out these schemes to others when we spot them; it's
called "Being a good neighbor" something the last one or two
generations seem to lose sight of in favor of "Do unto others,
before they do unto you." I just don't ascribe to the same set
of values as "the pup."
I also note in your statement "but people don't want genuine
instrumentation even if it's simple" an idea I'd like to expand on.
If you're speaking about parents (are you one?) who don't have
the means to purchase or knowledge to identify properly op-
erating equipment then I'd say the parents may be duped by
the slick packaging and hype, but I'm talking about the end
user, in this case a child. Do you feel the child only wanted
an inexpensive toy or do you think he imagined something
close to the hype? I think I know this answer.
So now we have someone who will provide you with the key to
richs, or at least makes you think about finding that "yellow
stuff." But when reality sets in after you've spent your money
and time "chasing geese" with NO return, how will you feel?
I don't mean the "good exercise" story you tell but the one
"inside" which goes something like "I wish I would have spent
more time on the internet, talking with others before wasting
my money and time on this scam."
I had an upset faker once ask me "Who do you think you are,
Jesus Christ" and my answer was "No, just an average person,
who doesn't like to see people taken advantage of." Do you
see a problem with this type of life?
dennis
in nca
Steve Peek
Steve
"rigger" <dg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Re...@group.only
You and I don't disagree Buddy. Yes, I am a parent and my kids
went through the "Discovery Store Phase" too. Frankly, I think
most kids out there want toys, not real science. Hence, my remark.
I also think the principal reason for that is that their parents are
idiots who forgot what little they knew the day they graduated.
I grew up being able to roam at will outdoors most any time I wished.
It was absolutely linked to my appreciation of science; That is,
the study of the world around us. It is my greatest reget of
today's generation that most have lost that connection. 1st
exposure to "geology" ought to be a kids' rock collection, not
a "science activity" purchased on credit. You should learn 1st
lessons in astronomy watching a meteor shower with your Pop
not wasting your money on the "600X' Jap Crap Scope. To give
two examples.
But then the kidz can't roam 'cause of the Pedos, Dad can't take
them out 'cause the game is on, and Mom is at work weekends
to help with the mortage & Lexus payments. Besides, they just
wanna play Guitar Hero III with their buddies anyway, right?
That's my Soap-Box, not ruthless Capitalism. Our society has
much bigger problems than that.
My Best,
Andrew
rigger
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:57:36 -0500, "Steve Peek" <sp...@ioa.com> wrote:
> >hear, hear (standing ovation)
> >Steve
> >"rigger" <dg...@aol.com> wrote in message
<snip repitition>
> You and I don't disagree Buddy. Yes, I am a parent and my kids
> went through the "Discovery Store Phase" too. Frankly, I think
> most kids out there want toys, not real science. Hence, my remark.
> I also think the principal reason for that is that their parents are
> idiots who forgot what little they knew the day they graduated.
>
> I grew up being able to roam at will outdoors most any time I wished.
> It was absolutely linked to my appreciation of science; That is,
> the study of the world around us. It is my greatest reget of
> today's generation that most have lost that connection. 1st
> exposure to "geology" ought to be a kids' rock collection, not
> a "science activity" purchased on credit. You should learn 1st
> lessons in astronomy watching a meteor shower with your Pop
> not wasting your money on the "600X' Jap Crap Scope. To give
> two examples.
>
> But then the kidz can't roam 'cause of the Pedos, Dad can't take
> them out 'cause the game is on, and Mom is at work weekends
> to help with the mortage & Lexus payments. Besides, they just
> wanna play Guitar Hero III with their buddies anyway, right?
>
> That's my Soap-Box, not ruthless Capitalism. Our society has
> much bigger problems than that.
>
> My Best,
>
> Andrew
I couldn't agree more, Andrew. But it seems "hoods", as we
used to call them, are are more glorified than priests, lawyers,
and politicians and you don't have to think very hard to know
why this is so. This is a difficult time to raise kids.
On top of this add an illegal immigrant population which begins
life in their new country by breaking laws, continuing to break
laws in order to remain in this country, and "Oh, by the way"
raising (and training) their kids while performing their various
illegal lives.
Spending only a little time thinking about how this effects the
minds and lives of these unfortunate children and how it affects
crime and peoples attitudes about crime may make you feel
the situation is hopeless; I sure don't have any solutions. But
I'm not the kind of person to stand around while others are
victimized; let them specialize in this type of life in New York
City (or other areas of massed humanity) where ignoring the
filth around you is a self-defence position, I can't live like that.
dennis
in nca
Re...@group.only
And why does almost every politician ignore the Illegals problem?
And why is NAFTA being rammed down our throats even as we slide
into Recession? Social Entitlements for Illegals & $4.50+/gal. forthe
deisel American Truckers need to work.
IMHO, it's because the Founding Fathers did a prety good job of
setting up this Great Nation. Mega-Industry and Big Brother have
realized that the best way to erode Constitutional Guarantees is to
erode the Nation itself. They would merge Mex./Can./USA into one
great new nation of " Amerimexida". And use that to cancel out our
freedoms. See, Everyone's equal when all they do is wallow in Mud.
Andrew
BTW, What is "nca" ??
rigger
Let's see:
Business supplies dollars to political jerks.
Mexican semi-slaves provide cheap labor
for Business.
Political jerks squirm on their backs like
the cowardly dogs they are as they make
sure they show the proper obiedience to
their masters.
I think that about sums it up.
nca=Northern California.
dennis
in nca
Jake
> the Illegals problem
> NAFTA
>Social Entitlements
> American Truckers
Hey, is the old newsgroup coming back? Just like old times! :-)
-Jake
Re...@group.only
>> Andrew
>>
>> BTW, What is "nca" ??
>
>nca=Northern California.
>
>dennis
>in nca
No Cal = Big Gold I hear.
rigger
People are still dredging and finding gold
every day. Mining had about stopped but
interest is back again.
If you happen to watch "Gold Fever" and
see the outings at "Italian Bar" or "Scotts
River" you can see the results from work-
ing a decent claim; nothing like the orig-
inal miners, but it adds up.
But it comes down to: The harder (and
smarter) you work the more gold you'll
find.
dennis
in nca
Re...@group.only
wrote:
>On Apr 17, 9:41�am, Re...@Group.only wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:54:35 -0700 (PDT), rigger <dg...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> Andrew
>>
>> >> BTW, What is "nca" ??
>>
>> >nca=Northern California.
>>
>> >dennis
>> >in nca
>>
>> No Cal = Big Gold I hear.
>
>People are still dredging and finding gold
>every day. Mining had about stopped but
>interest is back again.
>
>If you happen to watch "Gold Fever" and
>see the outings at "Italian Bar" or "Scotts
>River" you can see the results from work-
>ing a decent claim; nothing like the orig-
>inal miners, but it adds up.
>
>But it comes down to: The harder (and
>smarter) you work the more gold you'll
>find.
>
>dennis
>in nca
My personal philosophy of prospecting is:
"Gold is the Lucky Outcome of Experience, Analysis, Method, and most
of all - Labor."
Andrew
rigger
>
> - Show quoted text -
I agree, and would add the "Lucky" part will fall into
place soon enough with the proper application of
"Experience, Analysis, Method, and most of all - Labor."
as you've so succinctly stated. Thanks.
dennis
in nca
Golddigger
You're a hard man to figure out. In one post you're kind and helpful.
And in yet another you're hateful and venomous.
Anyway - thanks for the info...it'll come in handy.
GD in OR
rigger