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Pastor Dave, Th.D.

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Jan 16, 2012, 7:35:41 AM1/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:57:17 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist" <jnhickling[remove]@ntlworld.com> wrote:


> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>
>> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>>
>>> For Jesus worships his Father, Almighty God.
>>> Almighty God worships NO-ONE!
>>
>> ...said the moron who doesn't know that Almighty God
>> worships ALL the believers;
>
> Another fantasy you have made up.
>
> Almighty God worships no-one, it is beneath his imperial
> dignity and awesome majesty!

I can't believe that someone who claims to be a Christian
would write such a thing! I knew that Ike was out there,
but this is beyond out there and is sacrilege, at best! (:


>> that's why Jesus washed feet.
>
> [While his Father was STILL in heaven keeping shop?]
>
> Not to show he was Almighty God, but to show how humble
> to one another his disciples must be to each other.

Amen! Let's look at it in context, including the verse
that says exactly what you just said:

John 13:12-15

12) Then when He had washed their feet and had taken
His garments, reclining again, He said to them, Do you
know what I have done to you?
13) You call Me the Teacher and THE LORD. And you
say well, for I am.
14) If then I washed your feet, the Lord and the Teacher,
you also ought to wash the feet of one another.
15) For I gave you AN EXAMPLE, that as I did to you,
you also should do.

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Linda Lee

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Jan 16, 2012, 4:31:35 PM1/16/12
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On Jan 16, 7:35 am, "Pastor Dave, Th.D." <newsgroup-
mail@tampa_bay_rr.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:57:17 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic
>
> Traditionalist" <jnhickling[remove]@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>
> >> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>
> >>> For Jesus worships his Father, Almighty God.
> >>> Almighty God worships NO-ONE!
>
> >> ...said the moron who doesn't know that Almighty God
> >> worships ALL the believers;
>
> > Another fantasy you have made up.
>
> > Almighty God worships no-one, it is beneath his imperial
> > dignity and awesome majesty!
>
> I can't believe that someone who claims to be a Christian
> would write such a thing!  I knew that Ike was out there,
> but this is beyond out there and is sacrilege, at best! (:
>
> >>  that's why Jesus washed feet.

That must be why Ike says God appointed Ike as the first person in
over 2,000 years who can properly interpret prophesy; God worships
Ike.

>
> > [While his Father was STILL in heaven keeping shop?]
>
> > Not to show he was Almighty God, but to show how humble
> > to one another his  disciples must be to each other.
>
> Amen!  Let's look at it in context, including the verse
> that says exactly what you just said:
>
> John 13:12-15
>
> 12) Then when He had washed their feet and had taken
> His garments, reclining again, He said to them, Do you
> know what I have done to you?
> 13) You call Me the Teacher and THE LORD.  And you
> say well, for I am.
> 14) If then I washed your feet, the Lord and the Teacher,
> you also ought to wash the feet of one another.
> 15) For I gave you AN EXAMPLE, that as I did to you,
> you also should do.
>
> --
>
> Pastor Dave, Th.D.
>
> The very best Bible software:http://www.theword.net/is free!

Pastor Dave, Th.D.

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Jan 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM1/17/12
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lyndal...@juno.com> wrote:


> Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:
>
>> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>>
>>> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For Jesus worships his Father, Almighty God.
>>>>> Almighty God worships NO-ONE!
>>>>
>>>> ...said the moron who doesn't know that
>>>> Almighty God worships ALL the believers;
>>>
>>> Another fantasy you have made up.
>>>
>>> Almighty God worships no one, it is beneath
>>> His imperial Dignity and awesome Majesty!
>>
>> I can't believe that someone who claims to be
>> a Christian would write such a thing!  I knew
>> that Ike was out there, but this is beyond out
>> there and is sacrilege, at best! (:
>
> That must be why Ike says God appointed Ike
> as the first person in over 2,000 years who can
> properly interpret prophesy; God worships Ike.

You're kidding me! Seriously? Do you have him
quoted as saying that? I'm not saying I don't
believe you. I'd just like to read that message
and see exactly what prompted that comment.

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Linda Lee

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Jan 17, 2012, 11:37:13 AM1/17/12
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> <lyndalee8...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:
>
> >> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>
> >>> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>
> >>>> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>
> >>>>> For Jesus worships his Father, Almighty God.
> >>>>> Almighty God worships NO-ONE!
>
> >>>> ...said the moron who doesn't know that
> >>>> Almighty God worships ALL the believers;
>
> >>> Another fantasy you have made up.
>
> >>> Almighty God worships no one, it is beneath
> >>> His imperial Dignity and awesome Majesty!
>
> >> I can't believe that someone who claims to be
> >> a Christian would write such a thing!

Most Christians don't deny much of the Bible either.

> >> I knew
> >> that Ike was out there, but this is beyond out
> >> there and is sacrilege, at best! (:
>
> > That must be why Ike says God appointed Ike
> > as the first person in over 2,000 years who can
> > properly interpret prophesy; God worships Ike.
>
> You're kidding me! Seriously? Do you have him
> quoted as saying that? I'm not saying I don't
> believe you. I'd just like to read that message
> and see exactly what prompted that comment.


No, I'm not kidding, and he quit posting his usual venom to me after
revealing his delusion. Suddenly, he doesn't want to talk to me. What
he said in response to my saying he thought that about himself was
along these lines, 'What IF God chose one man? That's how it always
works', confirming it rather than denying it. Here you go, this is
how it started; the quote of him is at the link following his quote,
and I think he was talking to Mark T: who was posting as "THE LORD":

I had added this:
"[WHOM IKE CLAIMS IS IKE]".

When I responded to this quote of him he had further things to say, in
his reply to me (also quoted below with a link).

Linda Lee wrote:
"According to Ike, the Messiah (God incarnate) had to choose 12 men to
preach his gospel (the apostles), but the Messiah/God only chose ONE
MAN (IKE) in the last 2,000 years to interpret ALL prophesy for him."

<BEGIN QUOTE>
IKE SAYS:
"Now, here's the thing. God can't talk to the "experts," and has never
been able to--they all think they know what they're talking about when
they
don't, and God can't get a word in edgewise.

So what does God do?

He goes out and find 12 sheep ranchers, fishermen, and a tax collector
who DON'T have preconceived theological notions, and trains them [THE
APOSTLES] up to teach what HE wants taught, DESPITE the "experts" (who
are really no experts at all).

So what does God do when He wants prophecy explained the RIGHT way?

He can't go to the Seminarians, or Bible College teachers, or Divinity
School professors--THEY aren't LISTENING because they already THINK
they know what they're talking about.

So he goes and finds some relatively smart (but common) fellow
[WHOM IKE CLAIMS IS IKE] who is from several disciplines (military,
agricultural, academic, etc.) and says "Let Me show you some things
that no one has noticed."
So what YOU think is "an embarrassment" is MY GREATEST STRENGTH.
<chuckle> "
<END QUOTE>- SEE http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/msg/5fbb427f22277903
- January 12, 2011

And here is his post to me two days later where he defends his claim,
saying, "And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000
years to interpret ALL prophecy for Him?" GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH
"ONE MAN." "

Ike quotes me posting the following paragraph; his reply follows it:
"> According to Ike, the Messiah (God incarnate) had to choose 12 men
as
> apostles to preach his gospel, but God only chose ONE MAN (IKE) in
> the last 2,000 years to interpret ALL prophesy for him, and that man was
> Ike.

[IKE SAYS]
Notice how Jezebel here has to divert from the facts to the ad
hominem
attack.

And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000 years to
interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"

GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH "ONE MAN."
(And the Disciples didn't start first, JESUS started first."

See, the REAL issue here is YOUR JEALOUSY--you keep making stupid
statements; Ike keeps destroying them. "
- Jan 14 2011 - from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/b60fdb3b3a678ba9




>
> --
>
> Pastor Dave, Th.D.


>
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Pastor Dave, Th.D.

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Jan 17, 2012, 11:42:22 AM1/17/12
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:37:13 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindag...@juno.com> wrote:


Wow! (:
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to sacrifice what we are for what we could become."
- Charles DuBois

Linda Lee

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Jan 17, 2012, 12:31:09 PM1/17/12
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On Jan 17, 11:42 am, "Pastor Dave, Th.D." <newsgroup-
mail@tampa_bay_rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:37:13 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
>
> <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Wow! (:

Wow indeed. You'd think he'd delete this stuff, but he's bragging and
doesn't think he's being delusional, so it stands as is. ROFLOL!!!
> ><END QUOTE>- SEEhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/msg/5fbb427f22277903
> >- January 12, 2011
>
> >And here is his post to me two days later where he defends his claim,
> >saying, "And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000
> >years to interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"  GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH
> >"ONE MAN." "
>
> >Ike quotes me posting the following paragraph; his reply follows it:
> >"> According to Ike, the Messiah (God incarnate) had to choose 12 men
> >as
> >> apostles to preach his gospel, but God only chose ONE MAN (IKE) in
> >> the last 2,000 years to interpret ALL prophesy for him, and that man was
> >> Ike.
>
> >[IKE SAYS]
> >Notice how Jezebel here has to divert from the facts to the ad
> >hominem
> >attack.
>
> >And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000 years to
> >interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"
>
> >GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH "ONE MAN."
> >(And the Disciples didn't start first, JESUS started first."
>
> >See, the REAL issue here is YOUR JEALOUSY--you keep making stupid
> >statements; Ike keeps destroying them. "
> > - Jan 14 2011 - fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/b60fdb3b3a678ba9
>
> >> --
>
> >> Pastor Dave, Th.D.
>
> >> The very best Bible software:http://www.theword.net/isfree!
>
> >> «::F::»«::U::»«::L::»«::F::»«::I::»«::L::»«::L::»«::E::»«::D::»
>
> >> When Christianity becomes religion it leaves the heart hungry.
>
> --
>
> Pastor Dave, Th.D.
>
> The very best Bible software:http://www.theword.net/is free!
>
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>

duke

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:35:41 -0500, "Pastor Dave, Th.D."
<newsgroup-mail@tampa_bay_rr.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:57:17 -0000, "1st Century Apostolic
>Traditionalist" <jnhickling[remove]@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>>
>>> 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>>>
>>>> For Jesus worships his Father, Almighty God.
>>>> Almighty God worships NO-ONE!
>>>
>>> ...said the moron who doesn't know that Almighty God
>>> worships ALL the believers;
>>
>> Another fantasy you have made up.
>>
>> Almighty God worships no-one, it is beneath his imperial
>> dignity and awesome majesty!
>
>I can't believe that someone who claims to be a Christian
>would write such a thing! I knew that Ike was out there,
>but this is beyond out there and is sacrilege, at best! (:

Do you ..................actually believe God worships others?

>>> that's why Jesus washed feet.
>> [While his Father was STILL in heaven keeping shop?]

>> Not to show he was Almighty God, but to show how humble
>> to one another his disciples must be to each other.
>Amen! Let's look at it in context, including the verse
>that says exactly what you just said:

In context? Ok, Jesus showed that he as man was no more worthy than to wash
other's feet. And pointed out to them that we are all in the same boat.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****

H.E. Eickleberry

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Jan 19, 2012, 4:43:22 AM1/19/12
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On 1/16/2012 7:35 AM, Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:

> I can't believe that someone who claims to be a Christian
> would write such a thing! I knew that Ike was out there,
> but this is beyond out there and is sacrilege, at best! (:

Another fool who totally ignores Jesus' inversion principle (just as he
ignores everything else Jesus said when it proves him wrong), not
knowing that it is the inversion principle that MAKES Jesus God...

"Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and whoever
would be first among you, he must be slave of all."

Jesus was SLAVE OF ALL, even to the point of WORSHIPING His Disciples,
bowing to them, and washing their feet that MADE Jesus "First of all."

Do you know ANYTHING about the Word, lying fool?

Ike
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H.E. Eickleberry

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Jan 19, 2012, 5:25:47 AM1/19/12
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No, he doesn't.

H.E. Eickleberry

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Jan 19, 2012, 5:27:46 AM1/19/12
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Notice how the liar has to keep inserting the statement [whom Ike claims
is Ike], which I never made.

But the rest of my statements, as I made them, are precisely right.

Linda Lee

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Jan 19, 2012, 6:42:02 AM1/19/12
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On Jan 19, 5:27 am, "H.E. Eickleberry" <xeicklebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/2012 11:42 AM, Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:37:13 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
> > <lindagirl...@juno.com>  wrote:
> >> <END QUOTE>- SEEhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/msg/5fbb427f22277903
> >> - January 12, 2011
>
> >> And here is his post to me two days later where he defends his claim,
> >> saying, "And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000
> >> years to interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"  GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH
> >> "ONE MAN.""
>
> >> Ike quotes me posting the following paragraph; his reply follows it:
> >> ">  According to Ike, the Messiah (God incarnate) had to choose 12 men
> >> as
> >>> apostles to preach his gospel, but God only chose ONE MAN (IKE) in
> >>> the last 2,000 years to interpret ALL prophesy for him, and that man was
> >>> Ike.
>
> >> [IKE SAYS]
> >> Notice how Jezebel here has to divert from the facts to the ad
> >> hominem
> >> attack.
>
> >> And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000 years to
> >> interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"
>
> >> GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH "ONE MAN."
> >> (And the Disciples didn't start first, JESUS started first."
>
> >> See, the REAL issue here is YOUR JEALOUSY--you keep making stupid
> >> statements; Ike keeps destroying them. "
> >> - Jan 14 2011 - fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/b60fdb3b3a678ba9
>
> Notice how the liar has to keep inserting the statement [whom Ike claims
> is Ike], which I never made.
>
> But the rest of my statements, as I made them, are precisely right.
>
> Ike
> --http://thetriunist.weebly.com/index.htmlhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/The-Triune-Hypothesis/102657...


Thank you for verifying that you were quoted correctly, although it
would be kind of hard to deny when the links to your own posts were
provided. And I had noted to Dave that I'd inserted the words in
brackets when I wrote: "I had added this: "[WHOM IKE CLAIMS IS
IKE]".", but you verified elsewhere you were indeed speaking of
yourself just as you've verified it here. Your self-glorification is
delusional.

Linda Lee

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Jan 19, 2012, 6:42:52 AM1/19/12
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On Jan 19, 5:27 am, "H.E. Eickleberry" <xeicklebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/2012 11:42 AM, Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:37:13 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
> > <lindagirl...@juno.com>  wrote:
> >> <END QUOTE>- SEEhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/msg/5fbb427f22277903
> >> - January 12, 2011
>
> >> And here is his post to me two days later where he defends his claim,
> >> saying, "And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000
> >> years to interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"  GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH
> >> "ONE MAN.""
>
> >> Ike quotes me posting the following paragraph; his reply follows it:
> >> ">  According to Ike, the Messiah (God incarnate) had to choose 12 men
> >> as
> >>> apostles to preach his gospel, but God only chose ONE MAN (IKE) in
> >>> the last 2,000 years to interpret ALL prophesy for him, and that man was
> >>> Ike.
>
> >> [IKE SAYS]
> >> Notice how Jezebel here has to divert from the facts to the ad
> >> hominem
> >> attack.
>
> >> And what IF "God only chose ONE MAN (Ike) in the last 2,000 years to
> >> interpret ALL prophecy for Him?"
>
> >> GOD HAS ALWAYS STARTED WITH "ONE MAN."
> >> (And the Disciples didn't start first, JESUS started first."
>
> >> See, the REAL issue here is YOUR JEALOUSY--you keep making stupid
> >> statements; Ike keeps destroying them. "
> >> - Jan 14 2011 - fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/b60fdb3b3a678ba9
>
> Notice how the liar has to keep inserting the statement [whom Ike claims
> is Ike], which I never made.
>
> But the rest of my statements, as I made them, are precisely right.
>
> Ike
> --http://thetriunist.weebly.com/index.htmlhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/The-Triune-Hypothesis/102657...

P.S. God does not worship you nor any other person.

Pastor Dave, Th.D.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:42:02 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindag...@juno.com> wrote:


> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>
>> Notice how the liar has to keep inserting the statement
>> [whom Ike claims is Ike], which I never made.
>>
>> But the rest of my statements, as I made them,
>> are precisely right.
>
> Thank you for verifying that you were quoted correctly,
> although it would be kind of hard to deny when the links
> to your own posts were provided. And I had noted to
> Dave that I'd inserted the words in brackets when I wrote:
> "I had added this: "[WHOM IKE CLAIMS IS IKE]"

I will verify that you did do that.


> but you verified elsewhere you were indeed speaking
> of yourself just as you've verified it here.
>
> Your self-glorification is delusional.

It may be better though, to show that "elsewhere".
Just for public verification and to avoid others from
claiming the opposite.

--

Pastor Dave, Th.D.

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is not fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.

H.E. Eickleberry

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On 1/19/2012 2:43 PM, Pastor Dave, Th.D. wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:42:02 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
> <lindag...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
>> H.E. Eickleberry wrote:
>>
>>> Notice how the liar has to keep inserting the statement
>>> [whom Ike claims is Ike], which I never made.
>>>
>>> But the rest of my statements, as I made them,
>>> are precisely right.
>>
>> Thank you for verifying that you were quoted correctly,
>> although it would be kind of hard to deny when the links
>> to your own posts were provided. And I had noted to
>> Dave that I'd inserted the words in brackets when I wrote:
>> "I had added this: "[WHOM IKE CLAIMS IS IKE]"
>
> I will verify that you did do that.

And I didn't, which means I never made the claim that he claimed I did.

>> but you verified elsewhere you were indeed speaking
>> of yourself just as you've verified it here.
>>
>> Your self-glorification is delusional.
>
> It may be better though, to show that "elsewhere".
> Just for public verification and to avoid others from
> claiming the opposite.

He can't. I never made any such claim "elsewhere" or here.

That's part of his satanic modus operandi.
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