Republican Losses Blamed on Bush Rather Than Ideology
The Atomic Brain
why the Republicans lost this year. As usual there were trying to fob it off
on George Bush. Never mind that Bush went along with every single policy
that is at the core of Republican ideology. And the fact they they defended
him at every turn which led us down a path that has almost left the country
completely bankrupt. Jindall tries to pump the "we're a center-right nation"
line that is littering our airwaves, but the facts don't support it and
neither did the election. And as usual, Newt wraps it up by saying Obama won
because he was "Reaganite".
Gingrich: I think that's right and if you look at the [...] you look at
Sen. Obama's campaign he's promising a middle class tax cut. That was a
Reaganite position.
I seem to recall that what was being spewed by Conservatives and Newt was
that Obama is a Socialist leading up to Obama's victory. Maybe the people
want Socialism, Newt?
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/media/play/qt/6803/24102
These conservative purists are just like the Communists. It wasn't
"Communism" that failed everywhere it was tried. It was something else, run
by incompetent and immoral people. They will never examine whether the
ideology people tried to implement is itself so faulty that it inevitably
leads to incompetence and corruption.
They have always been upside-down Marxists.
Besides, Bobby Jindal thinks exorcisms cure cancer, so I wouldn't put much
stock in anything he says.
Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their backwards party is
dying out fast and that most Americans are progressives, as proven in the
last election.
Son of Darwin
news:trjUk.7305$yr3....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
They are blaming everything except their ideology and Palin. I'm happy
for that. They will spend a long time in the wilderness.
--
"Sarah Palin's a whack job."
- John McCain campaign staffer
r wiley
"Son of Darwin" <biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9B599BFA775F0bi...@85.214.105.209...
>
> They are blaming everything except their ideology and Palin. I'm happy
> for that. They will spend a long time in the wilderness.
>
> --
> "Sarah Palin's a whack job."
>
> - John McCain campaign staffer
Do the names Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew ring a bell? People don't
vote against vice presidential nominees. How long did that wilderness
sojourn last after you won it all in 1976 and 1992?
If George W. Bush hadn exploited 9/11/01 so cleverly, his rubber stamp
congress wouldn't have lasted 6 years.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. The people will restore
checks and balances soon enough.
rw
Conservative Crybaby
They just did.
Son of Darwin
news:gfsmam$p99$1...@news.netins.net:
I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember the years from 1955 to
1994. That or your school failed to teach you basic US history. Maybe
your parents should have demanded a voucher.
The Atomic Brain
"r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
news:gfsmam$p99$1...@news.netins.net...
Yep, in January.
Steve
wrote:
yet the chances of the IS government bailing out Zepp Jamieson are
pretty low.....
"And why are dividends on 401Ks considered capital gains? (They are,when it comes time to cash the 401K in, but Steve wouldn't know that)."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson Tue, 29 Jul 2008 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/25d56714cbea3db9?hl=en
Canyon Note: When you cash in a 401K, it's taxed as ordinary income not as capital gains.
r wiley
"Son of Darwin" <biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9B59A7DCAC30bi...@85.214.105.209...
Republican President - Democrat Congress 1955-1961
Democrat President - Democrat Congress 1961-1969
Republican President - Democrat Congress 1969 - 1977
Democrat President - Democrat Congress 1977-1981
Republican President - Democrat Congress 1981 - 1993
Democrat President - Democrat Congress 1993-1995
One party power always reminds the people of the need for checks and
balances.
rw
r wiley
"Conservative Crybaby" <dmc...@home.com> wrote in message news:gfsn7l$oj4$1...@nntp.motzarella.org...
No, they gave it all to one party again. This too shall pass.
rw
bval...@aol.com
> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their backwards party is
> dying out fast and that most Americans are progressives, as proven in the
> last election.
Really?
Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
The press covered for him.
The press sent spies to dig up any bit of dirt they could on Sarah.
And Obama won by a few points.
Obama is now surrounding himself with utter nincompoops.
He's promised to cut taxes on the middle class.
He's going to raise them.
He's promised to bankrupt the Coal industry.
He's promised to pull out of Iraq immediately.
This is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Meanwhile, Sarah Palin is quietly transforming herself into Maggie
Thatcher.
I can see why you changed your name, Zepp.
The Atomic Brain
<bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost 3rd grader looking
for attention.
BTW, not Zepp, Rush.
Steve
wrote:
>
Zepp is like a 3rd grader looking to hide from his past mistakes...
It appears that Zeppy has never read a book nor watched a movie
that didn't have some sort of mythical monster, space alien,
dragon, vampire, werewolf, fairy, elf, troll, (ect.).
The fatman will tell you what an intellectual he is.. ..because
he reads Vonnegut, Heinlein, and Rowling... <LOL> Yes, indeed,
Zepp apparently believes that Harry Potter is a serious intellectual
work.
The poor slob's life has been such a series of failures and
monotonous struggle to support himself, that he needs the
fantasies in order to escape his realities.
It's obviously beyond Zepp's abilities to understand that ignorance
is not cured by reading fiction.... He might have served himself
better by reading some facts instead of the flights of fantasy he
obviously prefers... It might have helped him in the following
areas, where he demonstrates his ignorance.
"Incidently, the fact that the Constitution specifies that people have
a right to vote in a presidential election pretty much takes the
choice of having [a presidential election] out of the hands of the states."
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson Sun, Sep 3 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/efb4fcac7b1561cb?hl=en&
If Nevermore tries paying cap gains with a 1040, he'll
be in jail soon enough.
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson, Dec 3, 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/30fdaff423e2029b?hl=en&
"The South couldn't taken any more of the Missouri Compromise,
sensing (correctly) that it would kill slavery in the end,
and Lincoln planned to uphold it."
--Zepp Jamieson
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9j2n5vsqfga7l2fsrt0polt2eg6lqs71hv%404ax.com
"The first amendment means that you are protected by law from haters."
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson
"http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&selm=an_541474719
In fact, I question the milk price, since farm supports put a "floor"
on what retailers can charge.
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/f7f4b713c4651011?&hl=en
Son of Darwin
news:0d7fa68f-fd3c-4b8d...@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
She certainly does look like she's aging rapidly. And not gracefully.
> I can see why you changed your name, Zepp.
>
>
Boo-fucking-hoo for you.
Lamont Cranston
> "Son of Darwin" <biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:Xns9B599BFA775F0bi...@85.214.105.209...
>>
>> They are blaming everything except their ideology and
>> Palin. I'm
>> happy for that. They will spend a long time in the
>> wilderness.
>>
>> --
>> "Sarah Palin's a whack job."
>>
>> - John McCain campaign staffer
>
> Do the names Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew ring a bell?
> People don't
> vote against vice presidential nominees.
Correct, but they do vote against them and it just happened
again. Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew are intellectual giants
compared to Palin.
fargo116
> .> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their backwards party is
> > dying out fast and that most Americans are progressives, as proven in the
> > last election.
>
> .
> Really?
>
> Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
No, he OUTFUNDRAISED him eight to one. Obama SPENT $67.5 million
compared to Gramps' $53.2 million. That's not eight to one, Valley
Girl. Fuck, that's not even TWO to one.
> The press covered for him.
How so?
> The press sent spies to dig up any bit of dirt they could on Sarah.
No, that's the DNCs job. The press sent people up to Alaska to see if
the story Sarah Palin was selling at the RNC was true and they found
out it wasn't. Over the course of ONE WEEKEND after her nomination in
September, Palin's approval ratings among the nation's voters went
from 52% to 48% and they continued their downward slide as she opened
her mouth.
> And Obama won by a few points.
He won 51% to 42%. That's nine points. That may be a 'few' points in a
basketball game but in politics, that's pretty big.
> Obama is now surrounding himself with utter nincompoops.
Hasn't even picked his cabinet yet.
> He's promised to cut taxes on the middle class.
>
> He's going to raise them.
Not unless you make more than a quarter of a million a year, he's not.
Since when are THEY middle class?
> He's promised to bankrupt the Coal industry.
No he hasn't. What he SAID was that anyone who paid to build a coal-
fired plant was going to have to pay for all the greenhouse emissions
that would cause and it would probably bankrupt them.
> He's promised to pull out of Iraq immediately.
No he hasn't. What he SAID was that he would leave Iraq responsibly.
> This is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Well, there is nothing else you really can do, is there, Valley Girl?
> Meanwhile, Sarah Palin is quietly transforming herself into Maggie
> Thatcher.
More like she's quietly transforming herself into Madame DeFarge.
(Look it up) Former veep nominees have a terrible track record,
especially when their bosses DON'T win. I mean, how about Jack Kemp?
What's he up to now? Or here's a good one, William E. Miller. Who the
fuck is he, you ask? Why, he was Barry Goldwater's running mate when
Goldwater tried to beat Lyndon Johnson in '64 and got the everlovin'
shit kicked out of him instead. You should be old enough to remember
that.
What Palin is doing now is sort through her wardrobe and try to give
back as many of the $150,000 in clothes she had the RNC buy for her.
The First Dude will keep the silk boxers though. Don't know if it will
do any good. Her approval rating among Alaskans is 68% now. Not bad
but it used to be 80%.
Yeah, if you want to send Palin out in 2012, all I can say is
pleasepleasepleasepleaseohpleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.
We'll be waiting.
S. Olson
Lamont Cranston
> .
>> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their
>> backwards party
>> is dying out fast and that most Americans are
>> progressives, as
>> proven in the last election.
> .
> Really?
>
> Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
Correct. The number of donations under $100 that Obama
received was truly amazing.
>
> The press covered for him.
LIE. The press has always been in love with the "Maverick."
>
> The press sent spies to dig up any bit of dirt they could
> on Sarah.
LIE.
>
> And Obama won by a few points.
Electoral landslide.
>
> Obama is now surrounding himself with utter nincompoops.
LIE. He's bring in the best and the brightest; no cronies
allowed; you won't find any Arabian horse show commissioners
on his staff.
>
> He's promised to cut taxes on the middle class.
Correct.
>
> He's going to raise them.
Big LIE.
>
> He's promised to bankrupt the Coal industry.
Big LIE.
>
> He's promised to pull out of Iraq immediately.
LIE. He has promised to begin pulling out immediately.
>
> This is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
What? Your self-destruction?
>
> Meanwhile, Sarah Palin is quietly transforming herself
> into Maggie
> Thatcher.
ROTFL! The only Maggie that Bimbo Sarah could transform
herself into is Maggie Simpson.
r wiley
"fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5d22bed0-b34e-44db...@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 17, 11:15 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
>> .> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their backwards party is
>> > dying out fast and that most Americans are progressives, as proven in the
>> > last election.
>>
>> .
>> Really?
>>
>> Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
>
> No, he OUTFUNDRAISED him eight to one. Obama SPENT $67.5 million
> compared to Gramps' $53.2 million. That's not eight to one, Valley
> Girl. Fuck, that's not even TWO to one.
According to Times Online, Obama/McCain TV spending was 4-1 overall and
8-1 in battleground states. Obama raised over $600 Million. Look for final
accounting to be buried deep in the news sometime next year.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5002832.ece
rw
Lamont Cranston
> "fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5d22bed0-b34e-44db...@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 17, 11:15 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>> .> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their
>>> backwards
>>> party is
>>> > dying out fast and that most Americans are
>>> > progressives, as
>>> > proven in the last election.
>>>
>>> .
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
>>
>> No, he OUTFUNDRAISED him eight to one. Obama SPENT $67.5
>> million
>> compared to Gramps' $53.2 million. That's not eight to
>> one, Valley
>> Girl. Fuck, that's not even TWO to one.
>
> According to Times Online, Obama/McCain TV spending was
> 4-1 overall
> and 8-1 in battleground states. Obama raised over $600
> Million. Look for final accounting to be buried deep in
> the news sometime next year.
There is no reason for this to occur and it won't happen.
bval...@aol.com
> <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
,
> BTW, not Zepp, Rush.-
.
Not fooling anyone but yourself.
Gary DeWaay
cfc820...@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, bval...@aol.com says...
> > Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost 3rd grader looking
> > for attention.
> .
> She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
>
LOL! Oh boy that scares us! A complete imbecile that is scorned by
everyone besides wingnuts like yourself is the righties great white
hope.
Good luck with that one Little Billy!
Lamont Cranston
Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
Son of Darwin
$1...@news.datemas.de:
Their next ticket is going to be Huckabee/Romney
dead kennedy haters
> > > Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost 3rd grader looking
> > > for attention.
.
> > She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
.
> LOL! Oh boy that scares us! >
Of course she does; if she didn't you'd simply ignore her, just as the
Republicans ignored John Edwards in Nov. 2004.
.
> A complete imbecile that is scorned by
> everyone besides wingnuts like yourself is the righties great white
> hope.
.
The woman can talk directly to people. She knows what it's like to
fight to make a payroll, and to put food on the table.
dead kennedy haters
> Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
Why? Because shitheads like yourself will spend the next four years
saying mean things about her?
That's a big checkmark in the plus column, chuckles.
dead kennedy haters
wrote:
> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@IShadow.com> wrote in news:gfv540$vit
> $...@news.datemas.de:
>
>
>
> > Gary DeWaay wrote:
> >> In article <b37c336e-49ef-4545-af3c-
> >> bvall...@aol.com says...
> >> > > Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost
> >> > > 3rd grader
> >> > > looking for attention.
> >> > .
> >> > She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
>
> >> LOL! Oh boy that scares us! A complete imbecile that is
> >> scorned by
> >> everyone besides wingnuts like yourself is the righties
> >> great white
> >> hope.
>
> >> Good luck with that one Little Billy!
>
> > Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
>
> Their next ticket is going to be Huckabee/Romney
That certainly would be the Democrat dream ticket. But in 2012, the
Republicans will have backed away from the "let's just try to get the
Democrats to like us" mode, to something a little bit
more.....BARRACUDA..
dead kennedy haters
wrote:
dead kennedy haters
> >> Reslugs just can't face the absolute fact that their
> >> backwards party
> >> is dying out fast and that most Americans are
> >> progressives, as
> >> proven in the last election.
.
> > Really?
> > Obama outspent McCain by eight to one.
.
> Correct. The number of donations under $100 that Obama
> received was truly amazing.
"Amazing" in a criminal sense of the word. As the Washington Post
wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413_pf.html
" Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to
use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be
used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to
give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials
confirmed.
Faced with a huge influx of donations over the Internet, the
campaign has also chosen not to use basic security measures to prevent
potentially illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its
accounts, aides acknowledged. Instead, the campaign is scrutinizing
its books for improper donations after the money has been deposited.
The Obama organization said its extensive review has ensured that
the campaign has refunded any improper contributions, and noted that
Federal Election Commission rules do not require front-end screening
of donations.
In recent weeks, questionable contributions have created headaches
for Obama's accounting team as it has tried to explain why campaign
finance filings have included itemized donations from individuals
using fake names, such as Es Esh or Doodad Pro. Those revelations
prompted conservative bloggers to further test Obama's finance vetting
by giving money using the kind of prepaid cards that can be bought at
a drugstore and cannot be traced to a donor.
The problem with such cards, campaign finance lawyers said, is
that they make it impossible to tell whether foreign nationals, donors
who have exceeded the limits, government contractors or others who are
barred from giving to a federal campaign are making contributions.
"They have opened the floodgates to all this money coming in,"
said Sean Cairncross, chief counsel to the Republican National
Committee. "I think they've made the determination that whatever money
they have to refund on the back end doesn't outweigh the benefit of
taking all this money upfront."
The Obama campaign has shattered presidential fundraising records,
in part by capitalizing on the ease of online giving. Of the $150
million the senator from Illinois raised in September, nearly $100
million came in over the Internet ."
To paraphrase a young Tennessee lawyer named Fred Thompson who was
then assisting Senator Howard Baker (R-TN) and the Senate Select
Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities: What did the wanna-be
president know, and when did he know it?
> > The press covered for him.
.
> LIE. The press has always been in love with the "Maverick."
.
The LA Times refused to release a video of Obama at an anti-semite
party.
The San Fran Chronical buried a video of Obama promising to bankrupt
the coal industry.
> > The press sent spies to dig up any bit of dirt they could
> > on Sarah.
.
> LIE.
.
Then why did we know so much about Sarah's personal life within days
of her nomination?
.
> > And Obama won by a few points.
.
> Electoral landslide.
.
So?
.
> > Obama is now surrounding himself with utter nincompoops.
.
> LIE. He's bring in the best and the brightest; no cronies
> allowed; you won't find any Arabian horse show commissioners
> on his staff..
.
We'll see, won't we?
.
> > He's promised to cut taxes on the middle class.
.
> Correct.
.
> > He's going to raise them.
.
> Big LIE.
.
Oh, he won't call it a tax rise - he's simply say that he's allowing
Bush's tax cuts to expire. Means exactly the same thing, of course.
.
> > He's promised to bankrupt the Coal industry.
.
> Big LIE.
.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
> > He's promised to pull out of Iraq immediately.
.
> LIE. He has promised to begin pulling out immediately.
.
PoTAtoes, poTAHtoes.
.
> > This is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
.
> What? Your self-destruction?.
Are you kidding - this is when the Republicans get back to our roots.
For the past eight years, I had to cringe as Bush and McCain bent over
for the Democrats.
Now I get to watch you idiots screw up while we reform. It'll be
great fun.
> > Meanwhile, Sarah Palin is quietly transforming herself
> > into Maggie
> > Thatcher.
.
> ROTFL! The only Maggie that Bimbo Sarah could transform
> herself into is Maggie Simpson.
.
Tell me, could you run a fishing business in Alaska? Would you last
an afternoon as an Alaskan fisherman?
r wiley
This is a funny subject line. Obama spent millions of dollars
equating McCain with George W. Bush, and now Republican
losses weren't because of Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PluoMotgl2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_uryFRPjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyC6toAyoPs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeYnLKFSoI
rw
Gary DeWaay
@f37g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, bval...@aol.com dead
kennedy haters says...
> .
> > > > Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost 3rd grader looking
> > > > for attention.
> .
> > > She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
> .
> > LOL! Oh boy that scares us! >
>
> Of course she does; if she didn't you'd simply ignore her, just as the
> Republicans ignored John Edwards in Nov. 2004.
For the most part they did. All they did was just stand
back and let her keep putting her foot in her mouth.
> .
> > A complete imbecile that is scorned by
> > everyone besides wingnuts like yourself is the righties great white
> > hope.
> .
> The woman can talk directly to people.
LOL! There was an interview of a local women on teevee
where she said "She reminds me of myself"... I'm thinking,
why on earth would anyone want THEMSELVES to be in power
when you prolly know next to nothing about politics?
She knows what it's like to
> fight to make a payroll, and to put food on the table.
>
..and go on shopping sprees at Neiman Marcus.
Gary DeWaay
@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, bval...@aol.com dead
kennedy haters says...
> .
> > Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
> .
> Why? Because shitheads like yourself will spend the next four years
> saying mean things about her?
So far, most of the "mean things" have came from the Pubs...
Dems have largely ignored her except when she puts her own
foot in her mouth.
>
> That's a big checkmark in the plus column, chuckles.
Oh please don't sic that big mean girly-thing on Obama... he
wouldn't stand a chance against her superior intellect!!!
Gary DeWaay
@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bval...@aol.com dead
kennedy haters says...
> > Big LIE.
> .
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>
You somehow think that being against CLEAN COAL will get the
Pubs back into the WH???
Good luck with that one bubs!!!
Son of Darwin
news:d777eb67-4b30-45a9...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
Her approval rating is lower than Bush's and dropping fast. I hope to
god she's the republican nominee in 2012 and 2016 and 2020 and 2024.
Son of Darwin
> On Nov 18, 8:45 am, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@IShadow.com>
> wrote:
>> "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote
>> innews:0d7fa68f-fd3c-4b8d-9fd
> 6-060d7...@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Nothing like posting reply with no actual reply. Fitting.
Steve
Lefty polls and left blogs aren't known for their accuracy
Justice is when you get exactly what you deserve.
--Neal Bortz
Lamont Cranston
Obama was just being smart. By blaming Bush, he put an
instantly identifiable face on the failed ideology.
r wiley
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@IShadow.com> wrote in message news:gg1h2b$g32$1...@news.datemas.de...
Obama spent millions of dollars selling himself as "Not Bush" and painting
McCain as "4 more years of Bush". George W. Bush is responsible for
the Republican losses.
rw
dead kennedy haters
> In article <9aa55f6c-5066-41da-be79-cd65eff10ae0
> kennedy haters says...
>
> > .
> > > Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
> > .
> > Why? Because shitheads like yourself will spend the next four years
> > saying mean things about her?
>
> So far, most of the "mean things" have came from the Pubs...
No, almost all of the "mean things" have come from Democrats, who are
scared to death of an articular, brilliant woman who isn't another God
Damned Lawyer.
Lamont Cranston
Obama was very smart. By putting Bush's face on the failed
Republican ideology, he was able to demonize it without
having to explain the specifics. It's much easier to sell
one's self as "Not Bush" than as "Not Free Markets, Not
Anti-Choice, Not Voodoo Economics, Not..." The failed GOP
ideology is responsible for Republican losses.
Gary DeWaay
b28efc...@h23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bval...@aol.com
dead kennedy haters says...
> > So far, most of the "mean things" have came from the Pubs...
> .
> No, almost all of the "mean things" have come from Democrats,
Uhhh maybe you didn't hear the "Hillbilly from Wasilla on a
spending spree.." comment because Rush never said anything
about it... but it doesn't get any meaner than that, and it
came directly from McCains campaign.
who are
> scared to death of an articular, brilliant woman who isn't another God
> Damned Lawyer.
Lol! I think it was Olberman that said she has 67% of the
Republican support, and 100% of the Democrats.
Please... by all means run her up the Pub flag pole as high
as it reaches!
Lamont Cranston
> In article <058c0099-2e51-45b2-8b42-
> b28efc...@h23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> bval...@aol.com
> dead kennedy haters says...
>
>
>> > So far, most of the "mean things" have came from the
>> > Pubs...
>> .
>> No, almost all of the "mean things" have come from
>> Democrats,
>
>
> Uhhh maybe you didn't hear the "Hillbilly from Wasilla on
> a
> spending spree.." comment because Rush never said anything
> about it... but it doesn't get any meaner than that, and
> it
> came directly from McCains campaign.
>
> who are
>> scared to death of an articular, brilliant woman who
>> isn't another
>> God Damned Lawyer.
Yep, she sure is "articular," especially if you speak in
tongues. It's probably because of all of the newspapers and
magazines that she reads. You betcha.
r wiley
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@IShadow.com> wrote in message news:gg1r5c$2k3$1...@news.datemas.de...
Most of the Republicans who have been defeated in the last two
elections have been liberals, the Christopher Shays, Jim Leach,
Gordon Smith,, Lincoln Chafee wing of the party.
rw
Dan Kimmel
"r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
news:gg263a$c62$1...@news.netins.net...
>
> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@IShadow.com> wrote in message
news:gg1r5c$2k3$1...@news.datemas.de...
> > Obama was very smart. By putting Bush's face on the failed Republican
ideology, he was able to demonize it without having to
> > explain the specifics. It's much easier to sell one's self as "Not
Bush" than as "Not Free Markets, Not Anti-Choice, Not Voodoo
> > Economics, Not..." The failed GOP ideology is responsible for
Republican losses.
>
> Most of the Republicans who have been defeated in the last two
> elections have been liberals, the Christopher Shays, Jim Leach,
> Gordon Smith,, Lincoln Chafee wing of the party.
Most of the Republics who have been defeated have been moderates, not
liberals. The Republics are doing the Democrats work for them, purging the
reasonable, electable people from the party and putting forth the extremists
and crazies. That's why you've lost seats in the last two Congressional
elections. That's why you've lost the popular vote in four of the last five
presidential elections, and the won in 2004 -- Ohio shenangicans by Rove
aside -- was one of the smallest margins by a president seeking a second
term ever.
Today the Republics are the party of the extreme right, the old South, and
rural, sparsely populated plains and mountain states. It's obvious that if
the Republics are going to survive, continuing along the same path is NOT a
good idea.
r wiley
"Dan Kimmel" <daniel...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:gg2iol$l0p$3...@news.motzarella.org...
>
> "r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
> news:gg263a$c62$1...@news.netins.net...
>>
>> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@IShadow.com> wrote in message
> news:gg1r5c$2k3$1...@news.datemas.de...
>
>> > Obama was very smart. By putting Bush's face on the failed Republican
> ideology, he was able to demonize it without having to
>> > explain the specifics. It's much easier to sell one's self as "Not
> Bush" than as "Not Free Markets, Not Anti-Choice, Not Voodoo
>> > Economics, Not..." The failed GOP ideology is responsible for
> Republican losses.
>>
>> Most of the Republicans who have been defeated in the last two
>> elections have been liberals, the Christopher Shays, Jim Leach,
>> Gordon Smith,, Lincoln Chafee wing of the party.
>
> Most of the Republics who have been defeated have been moderates, not
> liberals.
Only compared to you.
> The Republics are doing the Democrats work for them, purging the
> reasonable, electable people from the party and putting forth the extremists
> and crazies. That's why you've lost seats in the last two Congressional
> elections. That's why you've lost the popular vote in four of the last five
> presidential elections, and the won in 2004 -- Ohio shenangicans by Rove
> aside -- was one of the smallest margins by a president seeking a second
> term ever.
>
Speaking of Ohio shenanigans how about Janet Brunner ordering county election
officials to throw out thousands of Republican absentee ballot requests on a
phony technicality this year?
> Today the Republics are the party of the extreme right, the old South, and
> rural, sparsely populated plains and mountain states. It's obvious that if
> the Republics are going to survive, continuing along the same path is NOT a
> good idea.
>
>
They are about as likely to take your strategy advice as the Democrats are to take
Limbaugh's strategy advice.
rw
Dan Kimmel
>
> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel...@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:gg2iol$l0p$3...@news.motzarella.org...
> >
> > "r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
> > news:gg263a$c62$1...@news.netins.net...
> >>
> >> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@IShadow.com> wrote in message
> > news:gg1r5c$2k3$1...@news.datemas.de...
> >
> >> > Obama was very smart. By putting Bush's face on the failed
Republican
> > ideology, he was able to demonize it without having to
> >> > explain the specifics. It's much easier to sell one's self as "Not
> > Bush" than as "Not Free Markets, Not Anti-Choice, Not Voodoo
> >> > Economics, Not..." The failed GOP ideology is responsible for
> > Republican losses.
> >>
> >> Most of the Republicans who have been defeated in the last two
> >> elections have been liberals, the Christopher Shays, Jim Leach,
> >> Gordon Smith,, Lincoln Chafee wing of the party.
> >
> > Most of the Republics who have been defeated have been moderates, not
> > liberals.
>
> Only compared to you.
No, objectively. There are no "liberals" in the Republic Party any more.
Haven't been since the Reagan Error.
Your problem is that you're so far to the extreme right, that Dick Cheney is
your idea of a "moderate."
>
>
> > The Republics are doing the Democrats work for them,
purging the
> > reasonable, electable people from the party and putting forth the
extremists
> > and crazies. That's why you've lost seats in the last two Congressional
> > elections. That's why you've lost the popular vote in four of the last
five
> > presidential elections, and the won in 2004 -- Ohio shenangicans by Rove
> > aside -- was one of the smallest margins by a president seeking a second
> > term ever.
> >
>
> Speaking of Ohio shenanigans how about Janet Brunner ordering county
election
> officials to throw out thousands of Republican absentee ballot requests on
a
> phony technicality this year?
Cite? No, didn't think you had one.
>
> > Today the Republics are the party of the extreme right, the old South,
and
> > rural, sparsely populated plains and mountain states. It's obvious
that if
> > the Republics are going to survive, continuing along the same path is
NOT a
> > good idea.
> >
> >
>
> They are about as likely to take your strategy advice as the Democrats are
to take
> Limbaugh's strategy advice.
I hope not. As long as the Republics keep doing what they're doing, the
Democrats will keep winning.
r wiley
"Dan Kimmel" <daniel...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:gg3kdk$h4v$1...@news.motzarella.org...
Buah/Cheney spent 8 years kissing your ass and you still bite the hand that
feeds you.
>
>>
>>
>> > The Republics are doing the Democrats work for them,
> purging the
>> > reasonable, electable people from the party and putting forth the
> extremists
>> > and crazies. That's why you've lost seats in the last two Congressional
>> > elections. That's why you've lost the popular vote in four of the last
> five
>> > presidential elections, and the won in 2004 -- Ohio shenangicans by Rove
>> > aside -- was one of the smallest margins by a president seeking a second
>> > term ever.
>> >
>>
>> Speaking of Ohio shenanigans how about Janet Brunner ordering county
> election
>> officials to throw out thousands of Republican absentee ballot requests on
> a
>> phony technicality this year?
>
> Cite? No, didn't think you had one.
>
If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to post.
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/122293623090590.xml&coll=2
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/122293623090590.xml&coll=2
http://www.ohiogop.org/news/articles/2008/09/letter-secretary-state-jennifer-brunner
Dan Kimmel
> >> > Most of the Republics who have been defeated have been moderates, not
> >> > liberals.
> >>
> >> Only compared to you.
> >
> > No, objectively. There are no "liberals" in the Republic Party any
more.
> > Haven't been since the Reagan Error.
> >
> > Your problem is that you're so far to the extreme right, that Dick
Cheney is
> > your idea of a "moderate."
> >
>
> Buah/Cheney spent 8 years kissing your ass and you still bite the hand
that
> feeds you.
As noted, you're completely delusional. The rightwing Cheney/Bush Jr.
administration governed from the far right and did what they could to
demonize those who did not share their extremist views.
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > The Republics are doing the Democrats work for them,
> > purging the
> >> > reasonable, electable people from the party and putting forth the
> > extremists
> >> > and crazies. That's why you've lost seats in the last two
Congressional
> >> > elections. That's why you've lost the popular vote in four of the
last
> > five
> >> > presidential elections, and the won in 2004 -- Ohio shenangicans by
Rove
> >> > aside -- was one of the smallest margins by a president seeking a
second
> >> > term ever.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Speaking of Ohio shenanigans how about Janet Brunner ordering county
> > election
> >> officials to throw out thousands of Republican absentee ballot requests
on
> > a
> >> phony technicality this year?
> >
> > Cite? No, didn't think you had one.
> >
>
> If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to post.
Yes, lies posted by you and other rightwingnuts keep us busy.
>
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/122293623090590.xml&coll=2
Nope, no "phony technicality" here:
"The Ohio Supreme Court threw out a Republican lawsuit aimed at forcing
Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner to accept absentee ballot applications
that she said were incomplete....
>
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/122293623090590.xml&coll=2
Posting the same link twice does not make your case twice as strong,
especially since the article completely contradicts your claim.
>
http://www.ohiogop.org/news/articles/2008/09/letter-secretary-state-jennifer-brunner
Republic whining on a GOP website that the officials and courts are ruling
against them does not constitute proof either.
As noted, you don't have a cite to back up your claim.
> >> > Today the Republics are the party of the extreme right, the old
South,
> > and
> >> > rural, sparsely populated plains and mountain states. It's obvious
> > that if
> >> > the Republics are going to survive, continuing along the same path is
> > NOT a
> >> > good idea.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> They are about as likely to take your strategy advice as the Democrats
are
> > to take
> >> Limbaugh's strategy advice.
> >
> > I hope not. As long as the Republics keep doing what they're doing, the
> > Democrats will keep winning.
Keep it up. You're helping the Democrats ensure election victories for some
time to come.
allright
> > > Big LIE.
. .
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
.
> You somehow think that being against CLEAN COAL will get the
> Pubs back into the WH???
No, I understand that if Obama keeps his promise to destroy 50% of our
electricity supply before a replacement can be developed, he will
cripple America.
BTW, this isn't about winning the White House - it's about what's
right for America.
Son of Darwin
6235b8...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Hm. Then why are so many righties cheering everytime the stock market
falls? Maybe you are the one exception to the rule?
--
"This was so much fun."
- Sarah Palin speaking a a turkey slaughterhouse
allright
> In article <058c0099-2e51-45b2-8b42-
> b28efc085...@h23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bvall...@aol.com
> dead kennedy haters says...
>
> > > So far, most of the "mean things" have came from the Pubs...
> > .
> > No, almost all of the "mean things" have come from Democrats,
> Uhhh maybe you didn't hear the "Hillbilly from Wasilla on a
> spending spree.." comment because Rush never said anything
> about it... but it doesn't get any meaner than that, and it
> came directly from McCains campaign.
I'd sure love to know who said that, but it's just another "unnamed
source", isn't it"?
In any case, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are people who
work for McCain who are scared to death of Sarah. She's the future,
McCain is the past.
I was not thrilled with neither the Bush presidency nor the McCain
candidacy. George W. Bush was a liberal big spender in domestic policy
and John McCain's "maverick" image was code for insulting
conservatives in order to charm the establishment. Having to support
those two rhinos was a trial that is now over.
Sarah Palin, by contrast, is Teddy Roosevelt by way of Ronald Reagan
and Margaret Thatcher. She personifies the practical common-sense
conservatism of Middle America. The assembled right-wingers love her
for the smears and condescension she has suffered on their behalf. And
since they will be among the donors, precinct workers and voters in
the 2012 presidential primaries, Ms. Palin clearly has a big political
future.
.
> > scared to death of an articular, brilliant woman who isn't another God
> > Damned Lawyer.
.
> Lol! I think it was Olberman that said she has 67% of the
> Republican support, and 100% of the Democrats.
.
LOL - you're quoting OLBERMANN to me????
Yeah, I'm going to that that guy's advice.
.
> Please... by all means run her up the Pub flag pole as high
> as it reaches!
.
Oh, we will.
r wiley
"Dan Kimmel" <daniel...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:gg5839$p4i$2...@news.motzarella.org...
>
> "r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
> news:gg43b0$p4b$1...@news.netins.net...
>>
>> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel...@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:gg3kdk$h4v$1...@news.motzarella.org...
>
>> >> > Most of the Republics who have been defeated have been moderates, not
>> >> > liberals.
>> >>
>> >> Only compared to you.
>> >
>> > No, objectively. There are no "liberals" in the Republic Party any
> more.
>> > Haven't been since the Reagan Error.
>> >
>> > Your problem is that you're so far to the extreme right, that Dick
> Cheney is
>> > your idea of a "moderate."
>> >
>>
>> Buah/Cheney spent 8 years kissing your ass and you still bite the hand
> that
>> feeds you.
>
> As noted, you're completely delusional. The rightwing Cheney/Bush Jr.
> administration governed from the far right and did what they could to
> demonize those who did not share their extremist views.
>
Such as the rabid zionism they share with you.
Ohio law only requires that an application contain a statement that the applicant is a
qualified elector, not that the statement be marked in any way.
> "The Ohio Supreme Court threw out a Republican lawsuit aimed at forcing
> Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner to accept absentee ballot applications
> that she said were incomplete....
>
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/02/ohio_court_rules_for_mccain-pa.html
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/02/supco_forms.html?sid=101
>>
> http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/122293623090590.xml&coll=2
>
> Posting the same link twice does not make your case twice as strong,
> especially since the article completely contradicts your claim.
>
>
>>
> http://www.ohiogop.org/news/articles/2008/09/letter-secretary-state-jennifer-brunner
>
> Republic whining on a GOP website that the officials and courts are ruling
> against them does not constitute proof either.
>
> As noted, you don't have a cite to back up your claim.
>
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/elections/voterInformation/absentee.aspx
If a Republican tried to disenfranchise thousands of Democrats with a sleazy stunt like that,
you would be screaming for arrests and a new election.
rw
Steve
<biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote:
>allright <bval...@aol.com> wrote in news:562bee7b-8065-4fdb-a8a4-
>6235b8...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> .
>>> > > Big LIE.
>> . .
>>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>> .
>>> You somehow think that being against CLEAN COAL will get the
>>> Pubs back into the WH???
>> .
>> No, I understand that if Obama keeps his promise to destroy 50% of our
>> electricity supply before a replacement can be developed, he will
>> cripple America.
>>
>> BTW, this isn't about winning the White House - it's about what's
>> right for America.
>>
>Hm. Then why are so many righties cheering everytime the stock market
>falls? Maybe you are the one exception to the rule?
nobody is cheering everytime the stock market falls, Dummy. are you
hearing those voices again?
>"This was so much fun."
>
> - Sarah Palin speaking a a turkey slaughterhouse
You have something against her having fun?
Son of Darwin
news:2tufi4has3ns7kokg...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:16:53 +0000 (UTC), Son of Darwin
> <biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote:
>
>>allright <bval...@aol.com> wrote in news:562bee7b-8065-4fdb-a8a4-
>>6235b8...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> .
>>>> > > Big LIE.
>>> . .
>>>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>>> .
>>>> You somehow think that being against CLEAN COAL will get the
>>>> Pubs back into the WH???
>>> .
>>> No, I understand that if Obama keeps his promise to destroy 50% of
>>> our electricity supply before a replacement can be developed, he
>>> will cripple America.
>>>
>>> BTW, this isn't about winning the White House - it's about what's
>>> right for America.
>>>
>>Hm. Then why are so many righties cheering everytime the stock market
>>falls? Maybe you are the one exception to the rule?
>
> nobody is cheering everytime the stock market falls, Dummy. are you
> hearing those voices again?
>
Right. The guys posting "Here comes the Obama Depression. He's all
yours. Loving it!" are just a figments of my imagination. Jackass.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/b2290de3857ed23d
Subject: D O W -500 (got'a love it)
in HD baby!
Got'a love it!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/msg/b57834a2cbf0fa97
WOW! this is way so cool. I was banking on this fool to be
another major mistake like Bush because all those that voted Bush fliped
and voted for "That Thing".
I recently purchased a 60inch HD to record all the garbage fixing
to spill out from Washington. But man I didnt expect all this garbage
to happen so soon. Im so loving this im just drooling out the mouth.
Again DOW DOWN !!!! love it!!! This jerk will be worst than Bush!!
LOL and hes not even in office yet!!! Oh Man!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/5073503ba849a387
Bush kept your dead beat ass safe for 8 years
the Dow was at 14,200 in Oct 2007
unemployment was at 5.2
Now your buddy little Barney Franks and other dems who
ran Fan May and Fre Mac and forced banks to make home
loans to people who didn't have the money......that is what
destroyed the economy so if your looking for failures look
no further than your own back yard!
Got'a Love it!!
Steve
<biologic...@coldmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, but Im not cheering any Obama Depression.. I'm not even
cheering the Obama recession.. I'm hoping that he pulls it back
together.... I'm hoping that he forgets all that nonsense about
raising taxes and pulls it back together..
>Subject: D O W -500 (got'a love it)
>
>in HD baby!
>
>
>Got'a love it!
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/msg/b57834a2cbf0fa97
>
>WOW! this is way so cool. I was banking on this fool to be
>another major mistake like Bush because all those that voted Bush fliped
>and voted for "That Thing".
>
>I recently purchased a 60inch HD to record all the garbage fixing
>to spill out from Washington. But man I didnt expect all this garbage
>to happen so soon. Im so loving this im just drooling out the mouth.
>
>Again DOW DOWN !!!! love it!!! This jerk will be worst than Bush!!
>LOL and hes not even in office yet!!! Oh Man!!
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/5073503ba849a387
>
>Bush kept your dead beat ass safe for 8 years
>the Dow was at 14,200 in Oct 2007
>unemployment was at 5.2
>
>
>Now your buddy little Barney Franks and other dems who
>ran Fan May and Fre Mac and forced banks to make home
>loans to people who didn't have the money......that is what
>destroyed the economy so if your looking for failures look
>no further than your own back yard!
>
>Got'a Love it!!
Justice is when you get exactly what you deserve.
--Neal Bortz
dead kennedy haters
wrote:
> In article <b37c336e-49ef-4545-af3c-
> cfc8209eb...@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, bvall...@aol.com says...
>
> > > Sarah Paliban is NO Maggie Thatcher. More like a lost 3rd grader looking
> > > for attention.
> > .
> > She's going to grind Obama into the dust in 2012.
>
.
Of course it does - you won't be fixated on her if it didn't.
dead kennedy haters
> Sarah won't even be able to win the Republican nomination.
.