LEG wrote:
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Subject:Fascism Anyone? The 14 characteristics of Fascism
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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/14_Characteristics_Fascism.html
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LEG wrote:
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WELL NOW WE OFFICIALLY HAVE A FASCIST GOVT. AND IT WAS EASY FOR THE
FASCISTS TO TAKE OVER BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, UNLIKE THE
EUROPEANS WHO FACED HITLER'S REGIME AND DEATH, VOWS TO ALWAYS PAY
ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR GOVT. IS DOING.
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AMERICANS, SORRY TO SAY, ARE TOO LAZY, THUS KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT
THEIR GOVT. I.E. THEY ARE IGNORANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BE. IT
APPEARS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS TO BE REDUCED TO THE RUBBLE THAT
ENGLAND, FRANCE, ETC. WAS BEFORE AMERICANS WILL WAKE UP AND GIVE A
DAMN ABOUT THEIR OWN NATION...THE ONE THAT "THEY SAY" THEY LOVE AND
ARE A PATRIOT BECAUSE THEY SALUTE THE FLAG AND THE FASCISTS JUST SMILE
THAT ARROGANT CHENEY/BUSH SMILE/SNEER/SMERK, KNOWING THAT "NO ONE WILL
STOP THEM IN THE U.S.OF A."
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Subject:4-09-44-
The Danger of American Fascism
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/082103F.shtml
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Subject: 2008 CANDIDATES & WHO THEY GOT MONEY FROM. ----
(NOTE-YOU MAY SEE A NOTICE COME UP-JUST "HIT CONTINUE" AND THE INFO
WILL COME UP.
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TYPE CANDIDATE NAME AND A LIST OF NAMES OF DONERS WITH THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY GIVEN WILL COME UP"
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(TYPE IN CANDIDATE NAME & ENTER"
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
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BANKS:
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F03
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TELEPHONE CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B08
> APPARENTLY IOWA THINKS "THIS IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM".
Since the selection of a party's nominee is strictly a party function,
why should any government body be involved in the first place?
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com
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HOME SITE TO LOOK UP WHO GAVE CANDIDATES MONEY.
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(NOTE: CLICK ON POPUP "HANDLER" AND DATA COMES UP)
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Subject:2008 Presidential Election- DONORS- HOME SITE
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
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Don't be stupid and vote in Washington Insiders, they will only tell
you what you want to hear to get elected and then ignore you and let
you down after they're elected.
The Press is enabling them to steal the Elections.
Don't listen to what these Candidates say! Look at their past
records!
Are they really who you want to be in charge?
What is a matter with New Hampshire? Either they want business as
usual by putting two Washington Insiders in charge, Hilary and
McCain,
who are both American Job sellouts to India via the improperly used
corrupt H-1 Visa Program) or they're too timid to demand an
investigation that Diebold electronic voting machines robbed their
primary elections.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.congress/browse_threa...
These Candidates will not change anything, they represent the status
quo, but they will tell you anything you want to hear to get elected
though, as have those they support in leadership, President G.W. Bush
for McCain (War and its debt at the expense of the middle class and
poor) and Husband Ex-President Bill for Hillary (globalization / free
trade / loss of sovereignty at the expense of the middle class and
poor's jobs and wages and our democracy) whom they support their
ideas
and emulate them.
They will continue business as usual. (continue the embezzlement and
bankrupting of our treasury to protect Bush's Buddies big oil company
interests, the interests of the military industrial complex, and the
free trade sellout of our country's tax revenues, jobs, and wages,
social service benefits - rights and benefits already paid for by the
working class but are being embezzled).
Take the time to really look at their records. They identify with
rich
elites, big bussiness, free trade globalization, Open Borders without
security and Foreign Interests and special Interest over the average
american citizen's interests.
Hillary Clinton
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hillary+Clinton+record&btnG=Search
John McCain
http://www.google.com/search?q=John+McCain+record&hl=en&start=10&sa=N
The Majority of American Citizens the Middle class and the poor
continue to get increases in tax bills utility tax fee increases,
sales tax increases, gasoline tax increases, service fee increases
(tax increases that relate to everyday needs instead of rich
extravagances of the rich elites) paying the majority of taxes in
support of this treasury robbery, while the rich elites get massive
tax breaks even though they are receiving a much greater share of the
total income produced in this country and not allowing fair wage
increases sharing their prosperity taking their money elsewhere
(overseas).
Basically we are turning into an industrial fascist elite
dictatorship
(China's version of Communism) Making the common citizens slaves to
the elite rich puppet masters of our corrupt government.
No new taxes what a joke, time to tax the rich elite and maybe give
tax breaks only to in country U.S. Industries that only create new
jobs (not new titled reduced wage same jobs - bait and switch) and
good wages.
Trickle down economics (Not taxing the rich so they have more to
maybe
(not must) invest in local industry creating new jobs and better
wages) has never worked and with free trade globalization is
insanely
worse.
Service company profits (Like that of Walmart) made here are
transferred overseas to purchase cheaper often lower quality, even
unsafe, manufactured products. When this money leaves our country,
(unless we have a trade surplus with that manufacturing foreign
country) that money is permanently lost to our government as far as
generating new tax revenues from it.
Profits without the burden of social responsibilities to fund our
government operation and support the infrastructure, treasury,
social
programs (Social Services i.e. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
Welfare Programs, Government employees and military retirement
benefits). The rich hold onto even more of their money as they have
more than enough to purchase basic needs that the middle class and
poor are now struggling with.
Profits for basic needs industries aught to be federally regulated no
greater percentages than a reasonable amount after cost of
manufacturing, materials, labor, management, infrastructure support
and expansion (tax breaks for in country job creation only no other
justification is reasonable), no tax breaks for companies operating
businesses overseas (they don't support tax revenues or in country
U.S. jobs and wages by doing business overseas).
We need to make it unprofitable to price gouge. As percent of profit
beyond a reasonable profit increases; taxes should exponentially
increase. Extreme profits in the oil and energy industry, medical and
pharmaceutical industry, banking and mortgage industry, insurance
industry, that are now destroying the Standard of Living by the
Middle
Class and Poor must end.
Why should people who invade our country be allow jobs and social
service benefits at our expense take away these benefits, jobs,
deport
them or give them extreme incentive to self-deport if we can't deport
them, secure our borders and enforce our illegal immigration (anti-
illegal alien) Laws.
Its our country and we want it back and in our control.
Don't be stupid and vote in Washington Insiders, they will only tell
you what you want to hear to get elected and then ignore you and let
you down after they're elected.
You have the right to to be properly represented by your elected
chosen representatives don't let them ignore you demand they
represent
you!
Ask these Presidential Candidates to create a list of promised to
enact, ready to enact, immediately enacted upon being elected
executive orders that will support and defend the middle class and
poor legal citizens over foreigners, foreign interests, special
interests, and the elite rich. And repeal any that support those
interests.
Congress could act now to change things, but they won't because they
don't care.
Any Candidate who doesn't support the above ideas doesn't deserve the
presidency!
Contact Candidates and demand change.
Demand a contract for a to be enacted executive order List!
The below Candidates, I believe may be persuaded to back the middle
class and poor citizens, if they are willing to abandon some no new
tax (versus a job & Increased wage generating investment tax breaks
only) or free trade ideas for our support.
Barack Obama
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2
John Edwards
http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/
Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/
Mike Huckabee
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=ContactUs.Home
and Contact our do nothing Congress and demand Change:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-63874-0-days0-orderasc-.html
More Info:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/browse_thread...
Other Change Ideas:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats/browse_thread/t...
IN FACT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY "DON'T APPROVE OF
THEIR CONGRESS", EVEN MORE THAN THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME THAT THEY
ELECTED..TWICE.
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ANYONE WITH AN I.Q. HIGHER THAN THEIR SHOE SIZE SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD
THAT THE FASCISTS WHO HAD TAKEN OVER OUR GOVERNMENT FROM 2000 TO 2004,
SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM OFFICE, EITHER BY IMPEACHMENT OR
"NO RE-ELECTION IN 2004".
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BUT OF COURSE, THE REPUBLICANS OBVIOUSLY LOVED FOLLOWING IN "LOCK-
STEP" TO THE FASCISTS, (BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REQUIRE THINKING..ONLY
FOLLOWING ORDERS) AND THE DEMOCRATS, PER USUAL WERE TOO LAZY TO CARE
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, THUS DID NOTHING TO STOP THE FASCISTS AND
THIS NATION GOT A STRONGER, MORE ORGANIZED AND SECRET FASCIST
GOVERNMENT WHO ARROGANTLY STATED "THEY WILL TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
"WHAT THE LAW MEANS AND WHICH ONES THEY WON'T FOLLOW".
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THUS, IN THE 2006 CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS, MANY AMERICAN VOTERS
REGISTERED AS INDEPENDENTS, AND THE SEATED REPUBLICANS WERE DEFEATED
BY THE DEMOCRATS.
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UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEMOS, WHO HAD RAILED AGAINST THE REPUBS, TOOK UP
THE "SAME FASCIST POLICIES" THE REPUBS HAD AND AGAIN BECAME ARROGANT
AND STATED:
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"IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE. DEMOCRATS AREN'T LIKE THAT".
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THIS BEGGED THE QUESTION "LIKE WHAT"? AMERICANS WHO WANT CONTROL OF
THEIR OWN NATION'S GOVT. AND DEMAND REMOVAL OF A HUGE CRIMINAL ELEMENT
THAT WAS ORDERING THE KILLINGS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
CIVILIANS "IN THEIR NAMES"; AS WELL AS OUTRIGHT ROBBING THE AMERICAN
TREASURY TO FINANCE THEIR FASCIST WARS BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF THE
U.S.A.?
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FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN DOZENS OF CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATIONS WHICH HAVE "PROVEN" THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME EXISTS AND
HAS VIOLATED OUR CONSTITUTION, U.S. LAWS, AND INTERNATIONAL TREATIES,
YET THE DEMOCRATS ARROGANTLY "STILL" REFUSE TO IMPEACH THESE TRAITORS
AND LIKE THE FASCISTS, TOTALLY IGNORE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHILE "IN
FACT" SUPPORT THE FASCISTS BY VIOLATING THEIR OATH OF OFFICE.
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NOW WE AMERICANS ARE SITTING ON A FENCE TRYING TO DECIDE "WHAT CAN WE
DO" WHILE FACING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WHICH OF COURSE, ONLY ALLOWS
FOR TWO CANDIDATES:
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ONE REPUBLICAN AGAINST ONE DEMOCRAT AND THEN "THE GAME STARTS AGAIN".
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HOW ABOUT THOSE OF YOU WHO REFUSED TO BE PART OF EITHER OF THESE
PARTIES AND FILED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" ONLY TO FIND THAT YOU WERE SHUT
OUT OF BEING ABLE TO VOTE "FOR THE PERSON" WHO YOU FELT COULD CHANGE
THIS PATTERN?
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OR, HOW ABOUT THE "OTHER POLITICAL RULES" WHERE "ONLY THE PARTY
DELEGATES WILL DECIDE WHO WILL BE THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, NO
MATTER WHO YOU VOTED FOR, ETC. ETC.
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BOTTOM-LINE:
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THESE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES "ARE IN CONTROL OF WHO YOU CAN VOTE FOR AS
PRESIDENT OF YOUR NATION" AND THESE RULES ARE DIFFERENT IN "EACH
STATE", PLUS, "ONLY A RICH CANDIDATE WILL BE CONSIDERED, "BY THE
PARTY".
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IF THIS ISN'T A FASCIST PLAN, THEN YOU BETTER DO SOME HOMEWORK (READ
THE ARTICLES ABOVE RE FASCISM), I.E. DEMOCRACY DOES "NOT" EXIST IN
THIS SCHEME.
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WE, AMERICANS "NOW" HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNITE WHILE THIS IS ALL
FRESH IN OUR MEMORIES AND WHILE MILLIONS OF "YOUNG AMERICANS" ARE
TRULY INTERESTED IN THEIR GOVT.
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AS SEEN IN THIS ARTICLE, 30 REPUBLICANS ARE "VOLUNTARILY LEAVING"
THEIR CONGRESSIONAL SEATS AND THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING FROM THE SO-
CALLED "REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES" WHO REFUSED TO EVEN MENTION, GEORGE
BUSH'S NAME..THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL...THE REPUBS KNOW THAT THEY
HAVE CAUSED THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE ACTION EVER TAKEN AGAINST THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE BY BEING SO STUPID AS TO "ELIMINATE THINKING FROM
THEIR IMPORTANT POSITIONS".
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THE FACT THAT SEN. JOHN MCCAIN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST WAR MONGERING
REPUBLICANS, WHO THE REMAINING REPUB FASCISTS, ARE SUPPORTING, HAS
CLEARLY SICKENED MANY REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
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THE SOLUTION OF COURSE IS:
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SETTING UP A "NEW AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY", WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY
PRIMARY ELECTION; AND ONLY A GENERAL ELECTION, OF WHICH THERE WILL
ONLY BE "ONE PERSON--ONE VOTE" AND ELIMINATION OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE (WHICH WILL REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE, WHICH WILL ALSO
BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR "OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT "WE, THE
PEOPLE" DESPERATELY NEED TO STOP ANY OTHER FASCISTS WHO THINK THEY CAN
CONTROL US, VIA "A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION".
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HERE IS THE ARTICLE RE THE REPUBS. THINK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE
AND DECIDE IF "YOU ARE PREPARED TO MAKE THE EFFORT THAT WILL BE NEEDED
TO "CHANGE OUR POLITICAL SITUATION TO ONE OF A TRUE DEMOCRACY AND
PROTECTION AGAINST FASCISTS".
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Subject:2-10-08-(30 Republicans Leaving Office-
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Opens seats for Independents
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021108O.shtml
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>THE GLARING FACT THAT MILLIONS OF REPUBLICANS HAVE LEFT THE REPUB
>PARTY AND RE-REGISTERED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" SO AS TO TELL THE GOP
>PARTY THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LISTENED TO, HAS ONLY PROVED HOW MORONIC
>THESE REPUB FASCISTS ARE BECAUSE "THEY DON'T WANT THE INDEPENDENTS TO
>VOTE IN "THEIR PRIMARY". <snip>
That's going to hurt them, too (as IF they haven't done enough
self-mutilation already)...Jerry Brown will be the next governor of
California.
Man let's HOPE SO.. Maybe the public won't go for Hillary Clinton 'cos
she's a woman..or Obama 'cos he is a black.. the guy downstairs told me
Obama would be assasinated.
The American public, and ANY public operates on the "gut". It is form,
not content.
I am tired of worrying about it. I have my one little vote, and I am
gonna vote Democratic. I shouldn't even be on this group...except it is
so much fun to curse Harry Dope, Filthy and Flannigan.
I don't see any reason for his all cap drama but it's pretty clear
now, if it wasn't in November of 2006 that the GOP mainstream is
pretty much done with it's religious right wing. Enough so to give
it's own conservatives a kick in the ass for their Devil's alliance
with the Churchies.
There are excellent reasons for SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE and it
would appear the GOP has been reminded for the second time in the
space of less than a century.
Swill
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WHILE WE'RE AT IT, I THINK IT IS TIME THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES USE A
"TIME CLOCK" TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR TIME.
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Subject:2-15-08-
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Best US Factory Jobs In Rising Jeopardy
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http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/021508LB.shtml
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NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE CANADIAN'S HEALTHCARE PROGRAM AND READ WHAT
HILLARY AND BARAK'S HEALTH PLANS ARE..I DON'T THINK THAT REPUB MCCAIN
HAS ONE..HE WANTS TO STAY IN IRAQ FOR 100 YEARS AND THAT WILL TAKE
EVERY CENT OF OUR TAXES...SO HE CAN BE "THE WAR PRESIDENT".
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Subject:2-11-08-
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HEALTH CARE-Debunking the Free Marketeers
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http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/021508HA.shtml
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Name one political candidate that has not been caught in a lie or a
flip flop.
Swill
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Subject: A MUST SEE C-SPAN PROG- "PRIORITIES FOR NEXT PRES. ADM
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Subject: 3-20-08-LINK TO VIDEO-
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PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADM.-1 HR.42 MIN
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=559927810
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C-SPAN TV SCHUEDULE--NEXT REPLAY IS
AT 1:37 AM (PACIFIC TIME)
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Subject:C-SPAN: Full Schedule
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp
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U.S.MILITARY BASES AND WILL LIST ALL MILITARY ARMS THAT WILL STAY IN
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HERE ARE THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESSES; WEBSITES AND THE "VOTE SMART" WEBSITE
THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THEY GOT THEIR MONEY AND HOW THEY VOTED ON BILLS.
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NOW...IT'S ALL UP TO YOU. WILL YOU TAKE 5 MINUTES AND E-MAIL THEM
"TELLING THEM "YOU" ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE "NOW", IF THEY WANT
YOUR VOTE.
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Subject: PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY CANDIDATES-SITES & E-MAIL
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON:
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Subject:CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-E-MAIL HillaryClinton.com - Contact Us
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
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Subject: D.C. E-MAIL SITE-
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton:
Contact Senator Clinton
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/
PROJECT VOTE SMART-ALL DATA ON HER:
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Subject: Project Vote Smart -WEBSITE
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=55463
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Subject: D.C. WEBSITE-
Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York http://clinton.senate.gov/
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Subject: CAMPAIGN WEBSITE
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/splash/
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SEN. BARACK OBAMA:
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Subject: CAMPAIGN SITE-E-MAIL
SEN. Barack Obama- Contact Us
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2
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Subject: D.C. E-MAIL-
SEN. Barack Obama
http://obama.senate.gov/contact/
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Subject:Project Vote Smart -WEBSITE
Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. -
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=9490
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Subject:CAMPAIGN-WEBSITE-
Welcome to Obama for America
http://www.barackobama.com/
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Subject: D.C.WEBSITE:
SEN. Barack Obama -
http://obama.senate.gov/
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN:
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CAMPAIGN-E-MAIL SITE
Subject:John McCain 2008- http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/
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D.C.-E-MAIL SITE
Subject:D.C. E-MAIL CONTACT-"IN BOTTOM BOX"-----JOHN MCCAIN
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/
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Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE
Senator John Sidney McCain III
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53270
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Subject: CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-
John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President http://www.johnmccain.com/
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Subject: D.C.HOME SITE-
U.S. Senator John McCain
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/
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RALPH NADER
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Subject: CAMPAIGN E-MAIL SITE-
Ralph Nader for President in 2008
http://www.votenader.org/
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Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE
Ralph Nader
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=2508
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REP. RON PAUL
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Subject: CAMPAIGN E-MAIL
RON PAUL
vic...@ronpaulforcongress.com
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Subject: D.C.-E-MAIL
Congressman Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/contact.shtml
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Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE
Rep. Ronald Ernest 'Ron' Paul -
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=296
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Subject:CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-
Re- Elect Ron Paul - 2008
http://ronpaulforcongress.com/
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Subject: D.C. WEBSITE
Congressman Ron Paul-
http://www.house.gov/paul/
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MOST NATIONS KEEP ALL OF THE OIL/GAS THAT IS FOUND, SO THE HUGE OIL
CORPS WON'T ROB THE PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE DOING NOW; NOT TO MENTION THE
FACT CONGRESS KEEPS TELLING US THAT THE OIL CORPS HAVEN'T BUILT ANY
REFINERIES SINCE THE EARLY 70'S.
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THE ANSWER IS EASY..THESE POLITICIANS ARE GREEDY AND WANT THEIR KICK
BACKS & CAMPAIGN MONEY INSTEAD OF ENSURING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE "WILL
HAVE CONTROL OF OUR OWN RESOURCES".
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INTERESTING ISN'T IT..NOT ONE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT WILL EVEN TALK
ABOUT THIS, OR THE FACT THAT THE RICH OIL STATE OF ALASKA HAS MILLIONS
OF ACRES OF "UNEXPLORED LAND WHERE THE EXISTING OIL IS NOW BEING
PUMPED" (I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SENSITIVE ANWR).
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E-mail message
From: my1...@webtv.net(JUST�ICE) Date: Mon, Apr 14, 2008, 12:30pm To:
roy...@webtv.net Subject: Fwd: 4-09-08-BP & CONOCO/PHILLIPS TO BUILD
GAS PIPELINE TO CANADA & U.S.
From: �� my1...@webtv.net (JUST ICE) Date: �� Wed, Apr 9, 2008, 5:22pm
To: �� my1...@webtv.net, george_...@yahoo.com Subject: �� 4-09-08-
BP & CONOCO/PHILLIPS TO BUILD GAS PIPELINE TO CANADA & U.S.
Subject:4-09-08-BP & ConocoPhillips to build gas pipeline to U.S. and
Canada
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/09/business/pipeline.php
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BP and ConocoPhillips to build gas pipeline to United States and
Canada
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By Jad Mouawad and Clifford Krauss
Published: April 9, 2008
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Two of the biggest oil companies in the world, BP and ConocoPhillips,
have joined forces to try to break a longstanding deadlock over the
vast reserves of natural gas in Alaska.
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The firms said they would spend billions to build a pipeline from the
North Slope to feed markets in the United States and Canada.
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The proposal Tuesday won praise from Alaska's governor, Sarah Palin.
"It's a good day," she said to reporters.
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The announcement comes at a time when the consumption of natural gas
in the United States is increasing and conventional production is
declining. Natural gas is cleaner than other power sources, like coal,
and analysts say it is becoming increasingly critical to the nation's
energy needs.
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BP and Conoco will initially spend $600 million in the next three
years to drum up support for the project, seek state and federal
approval, and secure gas supplies for the pipeline.
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BP and Conoco said the project would be the largest-ever private-
sector construction project in North America.
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The project, which would include a $5 billion gas-processing facility
on the North Slope, would cost about $30 billion and take at least 10
years to complete.
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At a time when energy prices and construction costs are soaring, the
endeavor would dwarf the 800-mile, or 1,290 kilometer, trans-Alaska
oil pipeline, a momentous project completed in 1977 that brought jobs
and revenue to Alaska.
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As oil production from the Prudhoe Bay field declines, Alaskans are
hoping that natural gas will take over from oil.
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An Alaska gas pipeline has long been sought as a critical component of
the nation's energy security.
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The planned pipeline would have a daily capacity of 4 billion cubic
feet, or 113 million cubic meters, of natural gas, or almost 7 percent
of current U.S. consumption.
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But the companies will have to overcome some huge hurdles, said
Christopher Ruppel, an energy analyst at Execution, a brokerage and
research firm.
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"We've had a long record of Alaska pipeline projects coming out of
Alaska and Canada, and they have consistently been delayed because of
political opposition and rising costs," he said.
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"The United States and Canada desperately need the gas. But the
question is, is it doable?"
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The companies will need to secure more than 1,000 permits from local,
state and federal authorities in the United States and Canada, a
process that will probably take years.
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They need to negotiate with native tribes along the pipeline's route
to secure the right of passage. If the oil pipeline is any guide, the
gas line will also require vast engineering feats.
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But with higher prices, and a growing appetite for natural gas, the
economics of such a large project are starting to make sense for oil
companies.
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The companies said the initial plan is to build a 2,000-mile pipeline
from the North Slope to the Canadian province of Alberta; that would
add to the total North American gas supply, freeing some Canadian gas
for export to the United States.
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Eventually, the pipeline may be extended another 1,500 miles, to
Chicago.
"This will be a massive undertaking," said Doug Suttles, the president
of BP Alaska. "It is going to take the big team to get this going."
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The plan to build a natural gas pipeline "to export" the vast gas
resources in the state
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has been tangled in Alaskan politics for years.
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Today, gas reserves in Alaska are reinjected into oil fields or left
dormant because of a lack of export facilities to bring them to
consumers.
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When Palin took office in late 2006, she interrupted pipeline
negotiations that her predecessor, Frank Murkowski, had been pursuing
with the North Slope oil operators BP, Conoco and ExxonMobil.
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She started from scratch after criticizing the previous talks as not
being competitive enough, and sought to bring in new operators to
secure better terms for Alaska.
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Her administration is evaluating a proposal made by a Canadian
pipeline operator, TransCanada.
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The oil companies protested the delays and said the governor's
procedure was unrealistic.
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Eschewing $500 million in potential subsidies from the state, BP and
ConocoPhillips declared Tuesday that the economics of natural gas have
reached the point that they can finance the pipeline on their own.
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James Bowles, the president of Conoco Alaska, said that although the
companies would seek no state subsidies, they would try to meet
requirements outlined by Alaskan authorities, like offering local
delivery points on the pipeline to meet the natural gas requirements
of the state.
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"This project is moving forward on its own," he said.
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Palin welcomed the proposal, while stopping short of formally
endorsing it. She told reporters she would meet with executives from
the companies to find out more about the joint project. Still, she
added, "It sounds great for the state of Alaska."
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The plan came as a surprise to Exxon, which said it was invited to
participate only a few days ago. The company will "evaluate all
options," according to Margaret Ross, an Exxon spokeswoman.
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BP and Conoco said they would welcome Exxon's participation.
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Many analysts have voiced concerns that natural gas prices would keep
rising as domestic demand grows and exports from Canada fall because
of increased consumption there.
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Without a natural gas pipeline, the United States will increasingly
depend on imports of natural gas in liquefied form, a source that is
costly and potentially vulnerable to political instability in the
Middle East, Africa and Latin America.
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Greater demand is already pushing prices higher, and adding to
pressure to open deeper waters off the country's coast for
exploration.
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Amy Myers Jaffe, an energy analyst at Rice University, said a gas
pipeline was badly needed, in addition to the liquefied natural gas
projects under consideration. "In the long-term, it's not going to
mean we are not going to need LNG, but we would need a lot more LNG if
Alaska does not happen," she said.
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Natural gas consumption rose by 6.2 percent in 2007, to 23 trillion
cubic feet, from 21.7 trillion cubic feet in 2006, according to the
Energy Information Administration.
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Natural gas prices, which averaged $2 a thousand cubic feet in the
1990s, have soared in the last decade. They recently traded at $9.74 a
thousand cubic feet on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
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WELL, WE CAN NOW CLEARLY SEE WHERE AND WHO IS BEHIND THE TRASHING OF
OBAMA, I.E.
(1) THE REPUBS WHO "KNOW" THEY CAN COUNT ON HILLARY TO CONTINUE THE
SUPPORT OF CORPORATIONS OVER THE WORKERS (SEE THE ABOVE LINK TO WHERE
SHE HAS GOTTEN HER MONEY;
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(2) BOTH THE REPUBS AND CLINTON ARE "USING RACISM" TO TRASH OBAMA;
FIRST BY CLINTON'S REGIME TO START A FIGHT OVER WHAT A BLACK PREACHER
HAS SAID, NOT OBAMA, BUT ACT AS IF OBAMA AGREED WITH THE PASTOR..SORT
OF LIKE "THE MISSING WMD CON JOB", WHICH WAS ALSO A LIE.
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(2) ALL OF THIS FRAUD WHEN HILLARY HAS BLATANTLY AND INTENTIONALLY
LIED TO US ABOUT "UNDER-GOING LIVE FIRE IN BOSNIA, AND HER LIES ABOUT
BEING A GUN-TOTING HUNTER."
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(3) THE REPUBS "KNOW" THAT MCCLAIN WON'T WIN, BECAUSE HE, HIMSELF HAS
TOTALLY REFUTED ALL OF HIS "PRINCIPLES" AND IS NOW SPEWING WHAT THE
BUSH REPUBS WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM. (ANOTHER CON-JOB).
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SO, BECAUSE SO MANY REPUBS HAVE LEFT THE "FACISTS BUSH REGIME" THEY
WILL ONLY HAVE THE TWO DEMOS TO CHOOSE FROM, AND HILLARY WILL
DEFINITELY FALL IN LINE, LIKE BILL DID WHEN HE SIGNED THE FTA
AGREEMENT.
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THUS, THE MOST DANGEROUS CANDIDATE TO THE REPUBS AND HILLARY, IS NOW
THE TOTAL TARGET OF THEIR WRATH, OBAMA, A HALF-BLACK MAN, WHO HAS A
DOCUMENTED RECORD OF "WORKING FOR THE POOR" WHEN HE COULD HAVE BEEN A
CORP. LAWYER.
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AND, GOD FORBID, THE BILLIONS OF MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD WOULD START
TO FEEL THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY START TRUSTING THE USA AGAIN, INSTEAD
OF GETTING BOMBED, AS HILLARY HAS NOW THREATENED AGAINST IRAN.
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YEP, IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE POLITICIANS WHO BLATANTLY LIE
TO YOU AND THROW YOU INTO GLOBAL WARS AND ROB YOUR TREASURY IN ORDER
TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE SO YOUR BUDDIES (OIL CORPS) CAN ROB THESE
NATIONS OF THEIR ONLY RESOURCE.
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THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL TRASHING GAME ON OBAMA ONLY PROVES THAT RACISM IS
ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA AND IT STILL LIES WITHIN THOSE AREAS OF THE
NATION WHERE THE MOST IGNORANT LIVE.
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NOTE: I WISH THIS POLL WOULD HAVE EXPANDED TO TWO MORE QUESTIONS:
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(1) HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND IN READING THE NEWS ABOUT YOUR GOVT?;
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(2) DID YOU GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL?
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BECAUSE THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY MANY MORE CLUELESS AND LAZY AMERICANS THEN
THOSE THAT MAKE AN EFFORT TO CARE ABOUT THEIR GOVT. AND NATION, WE CAN
PROBABLY DISMISS THIS POLL BECAUSE THESE AMERICANS PROBABLY WON'T VOTE
ANYWAY. BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE GREEDY, UNETHICAL AND
SELF-SERVING CAN UNITE TO FIGHT AGAINST AN AMERICAN WHO HAS PROVED HIS
"PRIORITIES" HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO HELP THE WORKING POOR, BECAUSE...HE
KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE, WHAT THAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
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Subject: 05-04-08-BLUE COLLAR WORKERS SAY "RACE IS IMPORTANT" IN PRES.
ELECTION
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Subject:05-04-08-
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updated 11:58 a.m. ET May 4, 2008
Barack Obama News
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Polls: Obama falters with working-class whites
Impression of presidential hopeful among important group is getting
worse
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AP
John Evion, bottom right, listens as Democratic presidential hopeful
Sen. Barack Obama speaks during a town hall-style meeting held at
Munster Steel Co. in Munster, Ind., on Friday. The Associated Press
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WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's problem winning votes from working-class
whites is showing no sign of going away, and their impression of him
is getting worse.
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Those are ominous signals as he hopes for strong performances in the
coming week in Indiana and North Carolina primaries that would derail
the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton, his rival for the Democratic
presidential nomination.
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Those contests come as his candidacy has been rocked by renewed
attention to his volatile former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and
by his defeat in last month's Pennsylvania primary.
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In an Associated Press-Yahoo News poll in April, 53 percent of whites
who have not completed college viewed Obama unfavorably, up a dozen
percentage points from November.
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During that period, the numbers viewing Clinton and Republican
candidate John McCain negatively have stayed about even.
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The April poll conducted before the Pennsylvania contest also showed
an overwhelming preference for Clinton over Obama among working-class
whites.
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They favored her over him by 39 percentage points, compared to a 10-
point Obama lead among white college graduates.
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Obama also did worse than Clinton among those less-educated voters
when matched up against Republican candidate John McCain.
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"It's the stuff about his preacher ... and the thing he said about
Pennsylvania towns, how they turn to religion," Keith Wolfe, 41, a
supermarket food stocker from Parkville, Md., said in a follow-up
interview. "I don't think he'd be a really good leader."
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Just before the Pennsylvania primary, Obama said many small-town
residents are bitter about their lives and turn for solace to religion
and guns.
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Recent voting patterns underscore Obama's continued poor performance
with these voters, who are often pivotal in general election swing
states like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
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In Democratic primaries held on or before Super Tuesday, Feb. 5,
whites who have not finished college favored the New York senator by a
cumulative 59 percent to 32 percent, according to exit polls of voters
conducted for
The Associated Press and the television networks.
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In primaries since Feb. 5, that group has favored Clinton by 64
percent to 34 percent.
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That includes Ohio and Pennsylvania, in which working-class whites
have favored Clinton by 44 and 41 percentage points respectively.
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The AP-Yahoo poll shows less educated whites present a problem to
Obama in part because of who they are. Besides being poorer, they tend
to be older than white college graduates and Clinton has done strongly
with older white voters.
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'Lacks content'
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Yet political professionals and analysts say more is at play.
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They blame Obama's problems with blue-collar whites on their greater
reluctance to embrace his bid to become the first black president, and
his failure to address their concerns about job losses and the
battered economy specifically enough.
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Terry Madonna, a political science professor at Franklin & Marshall
College in Lancaster, Pa., said Obama lost among working-class whites
in the state because his message of how this generation's time has
come did not address their economic needs.
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"While it's incredibly motivating and passionate and compelling, it
lacks content," Madonna said. "Hillary would come in and relate to
them, talk about the specifics of her policy."
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Pennsylvania also illustrated the problems
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"racial attitudes" among less educated whites
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are causing Obama.
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In exit polls, 1 in 5 of the state's white
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voters who haven't completed college said:
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race was an important factor in choosing a
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candidate, about double the number of white college graduates who said
so.
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Eight in 10 of them voted for Clinton over Obama, and only about half
said they would vote for Obama over McCain in November.
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"The scab is peeled back off," Democratic pollster John Anzalone, not
working for either presidential candidate, said of the latest
attention focused on Wright and Obama's denunciations of him.
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In video clips of past sermons, Wright has damned the United States
for its history of racism and accused the government of spreading the
HIV virus to harm blacks.
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Obama pollster Cornell Belcher said that while working-class whites
have favored Clinton, the fact that huge numbers of them and other
voters have participated in Democratic contests boded well for the
November election.
"I don't think there's going to be erosion in the fall of a core group
of Democratic voters," Belcher said.
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While less educated whites tend to vote less frequently than better
educated voters, they are important because of their sheer number.
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Exit polls show they have comprised three in 10 voters in Democratic
contests so far, a group that cannot be ignored in a contest that has
seen Obama maintain a slim lead.
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They made up 43 percent of all voters in the 2004 presidential
contest, when they heavily favored President Bush over Democrat John
Kerry.
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Underlining his need to connect with these voters, Obama has geared
some television ads in Indiana toward economic issues.
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In recent days he has turned to small events, rather than his
trademark huge rallies, concentrating on the economy, including
lunching with a blue-collar Indiana family while discussing their
problems.
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He has let cameras record him playing basketball in hopes of
connecting with the passionate fans of the sport who populate Indiana
and North Carolina.
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The findings from the AP-Yahoo News poll are from interviews with 863
Democrats on a panel of adults questioned in November and April. It
has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points.
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The poll was conducted over the Internet by Knowledge Networks, which
initially contacted people using traditional telephone polling methods
and followed with online interviews.
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People chosen for the study who had no Internet access were given it
free.
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The exit poll is based on in-person interviews with more than 36,000
voters in 28 states that have held primaries this year in which both
candidates actively competed. The margin of sampling error is plus or
minus 1 percentage point, larger for some subgroups.
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� 2008 MSNBC.com
I saw Obama this mornig on Meet the Press
This guy I would like to answer at 3:00 Am
All I hope is that the DEMS can survive your next ATTACK ADDS
which sounds like KARL ROVE
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Subject: 4-14-08-
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YEP, BILLY CLINTON IS ALL FOR FREE TRADE WITH COLUMBIA AND HILLARY
ALSO DID UNTIL ...SHE DECIDED SHE WANTED TO "ACT LIKE A MAN" AND RUN
FOR PRES. SHE HAS NOTHING ON BUSH'S SWAGGER AND ARROGANCE, AS WELL AS
LYING, AND DRINKING..WELL, WHAT'S LEFT FOR HER TO DO TO MAKE US
BELIEVE "SHE IS JUST AS TOUGH AS THE TWO PSYCHOPATHS" BUSH/MCCAIN WHO
WANT TO BOMB IRAN ETC?
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HOW ABOUT SENDING HER TO COLUMBIA AS A "RAMBOETTE"?
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Subject:2-26-08-
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COLOMBIA-Murders of trade unionists go unpunished in Colombia
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