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Re: U.S. ELECTIONS FOR PRES. & CONGRESS-THE PRIMARIES--ARE YOU GOING TO ELECT MORE FASCISTS?

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corinne

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Dec 8, 2007, 3:22:06 PM12/8/07
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THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THERE IS A REAL ESCAPE OF REPUBLICANS GOING
ON NOW, I.E. DECADES LONG ENTRENCHED CONGRESSMEN WHO ARE "SUDDENLY"
DECIDING TO "RETIRE", LIKE SEN. WARNER, WHO GETS NO GREATER JOY THEN
TO TAKE THE PODIUM AND PUT US TO SLEEP WITH HIS NEVER ENDING TALES OF
"HOW MUCH "TIME" HE HAS SPENT IN THE NAVY; HOW MANY IMPORTANT PEOPLE
HE KNOWS; AND HOW MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES HE WAS INVOLVED IN AS A
CONGRESSMAN.
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THERE REALLY SHOULD BE AN AGE REQUIREMENT FOR LEAVING CONGRESS, JUST
AS THERE IS TO BE ELECTED ONE.
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THESE MUSTY OLD RELICS CANNOT THINK ABOUT WHAT THEIR DECISIONS WILL
AFFECT 5 YEARS FROM NOW BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO LEAVE THEIR GLORY DAYS
OF 30-50 YEARS AGO.
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THEN THERE ARE THOSE REPUBS WHO ARE GETTING OUT WHILE THE GETTING IS
GOOD, I.E. THE MANY REPUBS WHO DON'T WANT TO FACE THEIR REPUB VOTERS
WITH OBVIOUS QUESTIONS OF:
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(1) WHY AREN'T YOU IMPEACHING BUSH, WHEN IT IS OBVIOUS HE HAS BEEN
LYING TO US FOR YEARS AND OUR SONS ARE DYING BECAUSE OF IT?;
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(2) WHY ARE THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS PEOPLE "DEFENDING THE BUSH
REGIME'S CABINET AND NOMINEES IN THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS, WHEN IT
IS CLEAR VIA THE CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY ARE "GUILTY OF
OUTRIGHT LIES AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT FRAUD AND OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE?
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IT IS CLEAR TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT THESE REPUBLICANS ARE
LEAVING THEIR COZY JOBS BECAUSE, EVEN THEY ARE ASHAMED OF THEIR OWN
POLITICAL PARTY AND ARE PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN KEEPING THIS FASCIST
REGIME IN CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT; TREASURY AND NATION.
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IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT "THEY CAN ALSO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR "WAR
CRIMES" WHICH WERE COMMITTED "BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY VOTED, WHICH WAS
IN TOTAL LOCK-STEP TO THE FASCISTS ORDERS.
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NOW...HOW ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS?
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THEY ARE GUILTY OF "THE VERY SAME INSANE ACTS AS THE ABOVE, WITH ONE
SMALL DIFFERENCE:
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THEY ARE IN LOCK-STEP TO THE DEMO PARTY'S LEADERSHIP, OF WHICH NANCY
PELOSI, YES THE FIRST WOMAN VOTED IN AS "SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE" (A
LEGACY ALL AMERICAN WOMEN WITH AN I.Q. HIGHER THEN THEIR SHOE SIZE,
NOW REALIZE IS "AS BAD OR WORSE, THEN ANY MAN WHO HELD THAT POSITION.)
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PELOSI, ET AL WHEN ASKED "WHY DON'T YOU START IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS
HAVE GIVEN US (THE ONES THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR DEMS) THE LAMEST OF
ANSWERS, WITH THE WORST BEING:
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"IF WE TOOK UP IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS, WE WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING DONE".
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EXCUSE ME! OUR NATION IS, AND HAS BEEN SUFFERING ECONOMICALLY, AND
GLOBALLY BECAUSE "YOU HAVE ALLOWED THESE FASCISTS TO CONTINUE 7 LONG
YEARS OF THE WORST WAR CRIMES, I.E. ATTACKING AND MURDERING MILLIONS
OF INNOCENT CITIZENS BASED ON TOTAL LIES.
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MANY OF YOU DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT ONLY VOTED TO ALLOW THIS FASCIST REGIME
TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO ALLOW THEM TO DESTROY OUR
CONSTITUTION AND THE RIGHTS WE HAVE BEEN GUARANTEED.
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LISTEN UP DEMOCRAT CONGRESS PEOPLE, YOU HAVE SPENT ABOUT 5 YEARS OF
NEVER-ENDING SO-CALLED "CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS" WHICH HAVE TAKEN
UP THOUSANDS OF HOURS.
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IN THOSE DOZENS OF INVESTIGATIONS, YOU RECEIVED HARD EVIDENCE THAT
COULD BE USED "TO IMPEACH THE BUSH REGIME", BUT YOU REFUSED TO DO
THAT, INSTEAD, YOU JUST KEPT "INVESTIGATING", SO AS TO "ACT LIKE YOU
ARE SERIOUSLY DOING SOMETHING, WHEN IN FACT, ALMOST ALL OF THE GUILTY
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, SUDDENLY DECIDED "TO RESIGN" ONLY TO BE REPLACED
WITH ANOTHER BUSH FASCIST.
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THESE ARE THE GAMES THAT FASCISTS PLAY AND RIGHT NOW, THE REPUBLICANS
KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL OF GETTING ELECTED BY
REPUBLICANS, SO WHY WASTE THEIR TIME.
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WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND, THE DELUSIONAL DEMOCRATS "THINK" THESE REPUB
SEATS WILL BE FILLED WITH DEMOCRATS, WHEN IN FACT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WHO WERE POLLED "GAVE CONGRESS LOWER APPROVAL RATINGS THEN THE FASCIST
BUSH, HIMSELF".
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IT IS NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN "UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO STRIP
THESE FASCISTS OF THEIR JOBS AND REPLACE THEM WITH "HONORABLE AND
ETHICAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE "ALREADY PROVED THEY WOULD STAND UP FOR THE
PEOPLE", I.E. EVERY CITY, COUNTY AND STATE GOVERNMENT HAVE THESE
WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANTS.
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THEY PROBABLY AREN'T RICH NOR LOOK LIKE MOVIE STARS, BUT YOU "KNOW
THEY CAN'T BE BOUGHT". IT IS THEY WHO WE NEED TO RUN FOR OUR CONGRESS.
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THE PRIMARY ELECTIONS ARE "THE ONLY PLACE WHERE AMERICANS CAN GET
THESE GOOD PEOPLE ON THE TRACK TO BECOMING "YOUR REPRESENTIVE AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL".
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IF YOU EVER QUESTIONED "YOUR DUTY TO YOUR COUNTRY, IT IS NOW".
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THE INTERNET HAS MANY WEBSITES FOR ALL U.S. STATES, CITIES, ETC. STOP
WASTING YOUR TIME POSTING INFORMATION THAT EVERYONE EITHER KNOWS ABOUT
OR CAN GET, AND START ALERTING "YOUR STATE VOTERS TO FIND CANDIDATES
TO RUN FOR CONGRESS TO UNSEAT THOSE THAT ARE NOW THERE OR THE EMPTY
SEAT THEY ARE LEAVING.".
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POST A THREAD FOR EACH STATE AND EACH CITY HERE, LETTING US ALL KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE DOING SO YOU CAN GET HELP FROM OTHERS WHO LIVE IN YOUR
STATE.
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FIND OUT WHEN YOU STATE PRIMARY IS GOING TO BE HELD AND LET THE PEOPLE
IN YOUR STATE KNOW THE DEADLINE AND WHETHER THEY HAVE TO REGISTER AS
REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT TO VOTE FOR "YOUR NEW CANDIDATE" OR CAN THEY
VOTE FOR THEM IF THEY ARE REGISTERED AS "AN INDEPENDENT".
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SOME PRIMARIES ARE GOING TO BE HELD IN JUST ABOUT 2 WEEKS. NEVER HAS
THERE BEEN ANY GREATER TIME THEN NOW, TO DEVOTE YOUR SPARE TIME IN
SAVING OUR NATION FROM THE ENDLESS LINES OF CORRUPT, POWER-HUNGRY
FASCISTS, THEN NOW.
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YOU WILL BE LEAVING YOUR LEGACY ON THE INTERNET FOR WHICH YOU AND YOUR
KIDS WILL FOREVER BE PROUD. IF YOU POST USING GOOGLE GROUPS, GOOGLE
WILL HAVE YOUR POSTS FOREVER ARCHIVED.
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THERE IS NO TIME TO WAIT...GET THE LINKS FOR THE CHAT ROOMS IN YOUR
STATE AND POST THEM HERE THEN SAVE THAT THREAD BY POSTING THE ELECTION
LAWS..OTHERS IN YOUR STATE CAN THEN ALSO SAVE YOUR THREAD AND GO RIGHT
TO IT WHERE THEY CAN SIGN IN AND START THE ORGANIZED EFFORT TO FIND
YOUR NEXT CONGRESS PERSON.
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"THE ENEMY LIES WITHIN AND IT'S US".


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LEG

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Dec 8, 2007, 5:04:55 PM12/8/07
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LEG wrote:

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Subject:Fascism Anyone? The 14 characteristics of Fascism
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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/14_Characteristics_Fascism.html
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LEG

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Dec 8, 2007, 5:21:34 PM12/8/07
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LEG wrote:

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WELL NOW WE OFFICIALLY HAVE A FASCIST GOVT. AND IT WAS EASY FOR THE
FASCISTS TO TAKE OVER BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, UNLIKE THE
EUROPEANS WHO FACED HITLER'S REGIME AND DEATH, VOWS TO ALWAYS PAY
ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR GOVT. IS DOING.
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AMERICANS, SORRY TO SAY, ARE TOO LAZY, THUS KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT
THEIR GOVT. I.E. THEY ARE IGNORANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BE. IT
APPEARS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS TO BE REDUCED TO THE RUBBLE THAT
ENGLAND, FRANCE, ETC. WAS BEFORE AMERICANS WILL WAKE UP AND GIVE A
DAMN ABOUT THEIR OWN NATION...THE ONE THAT "THEY SAY" THEY LOVE AND
ARE A PATRIOT BECAUSE THEY SALUTE THE FLAG AND THE FASCISTS JUST SMILE
THAT ARROGANT CHENEY/BUSH SMILE/SNEER/SMERK, KNOWING THAT "NO ONE WILL
STOP THEM IN THE U.S.OF A."
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Subject:4-09-44-
The Danger of American Fascism
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/082103F.shtml
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corinne

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Dec 9, 2007, 5:32:01 PM12/9/07
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THIS IS BUT ONE OF MANY ADMISSIONS OF GUILT BY CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS
THAT THE BUSH REGIME BLATANTLY VIOLATED U.S. LAW, WHICH CAUSED THE
MURDER OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT LIVES; ROBBERY OF OUR
TREASURY; AND MADE A TARGET OF HATRED BY THE WORLD WHEN THEY REFUSED
TO TELL CONGRESS "THE TRUTH" AND "IN FACT, CONCEALED THE TRUTH IN
ORDER TO PERPETRATE THEIR FRAUD.
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Subject:10-15-06-
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Sen. Specter on Cong Notification RE National Security Act
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http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2006_cr/specter052606.html
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corinne

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Dec 10, 2007, 2:31:06 PM12/10/07
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FOR THOSE JOHN PAUL FANS, SEE THE ARTICLE ON THIS SITE.
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Subject:
Will The 2008 Vote Be Fair?
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An Interview With David Becker . NOW | PBS
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http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/348/index.html
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corinne

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Dec 10, 2007, 2:44:22 PM12/10/07
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SEE VIDEO OF STING OPERATION.
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Subject:11-23-07-
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Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS
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http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/347/oil-politics.html
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corinne

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Dec 10, 2007, 3:26:32 PM12/10/07
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THESE TIME OUT, SO MAKE A COPY AND SEND IT TO YOURSELF IF YOU WANT TO
SAVE IT.
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Subject:Opensecrets: US Congress-Money they got.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/index.asp
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JACKEL

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Dec 11, 2007, 6:17:16 PM12/11/07
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I THINK THE REPUBS "HAVE FINALLY GOT IT"!!
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BUT...THE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T, I.E. SINCE THEY HAVE REFUSED TO IMPEACH
THE FASCISTS, BUSH & CHENEY...THEY SHOULD CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS
TRAITORS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHO WILL HOPEFULLY VOTE THEM OUT OF
OFFICE, IF UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2008, OR WILL HAVE THEM RECALLED FOR
NOT DOING WHAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT..."IMPEACH OR YOU WILL BE
REMOVED FROM OFFICE".
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Subject:12-07-07-
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(18TH HOUSE REPUB- will not seek reelection
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http://thehill.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70183&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=70
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JACKEL

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Dec 15, 2007, 5:48:00 PM12/15/07
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WE ARE ALL MUCH SMARTER THESE DAYS ABOUT MANY CONGRESSMEN "AND" THE
PRESIDENT IS LITERALLY "BOUGHT TO VOTE FOR LAWS THAT BENEFIT THEIR
CORPORATIONS".
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WE ARE ALL LISTENING TO WHAT THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE SAYING
AND "WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES WILL BE "FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE", IF YOU
VOTE FOR THEM.
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BUT "THE TRUTH IS" THESE CANDIDATES HAVE ALREADY MADE DEALS WITH LARGE
CORPORATIONS WHICH DEALS WITH THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS "WILL TAKE
PRIORITY OVER THE NEEDS OF AMERICANS.
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AS CAN BE SEEN IN THE FOLLOWING LINKS
SOME OF THESE "TOP DOG CANDIDATES" HAS BEEN GIVEN MULTI-MILLION
DOLLARS AS THEIR PRICE TAG.
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"THE MEDIA" THEN ONLY ALLOWS THOSE CANDIDATES WHO HAVE SOLD THEMSELVES
TO THE RICH, TO BE ALLOWED TV TIME DURING THE DEBATES.
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THUS, IT IS CLEAR THAT AMERICANS ONLY KNOW ABOUT THOSE CANDIDATES WHO
HAVE ALREADY SOLD THEM OUT, WHILE THOSE WHO HAVE REFUSED TO ACCEPT
THIS PAY-OFF WILL BE INTENTIONALLY ELIMINATED FROM YOUR SIGHT.
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THIS, DEAR AMERICANS, "IS HOW OUR SO-CALLED DEMOCRACY IS PRACTICED",
I.E. THESE CANDIDATES WANT TO "HAVE POWER AND CONTROL" OVER THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND THE WAY TO GET IT IS "THROUGH UP-FRONT GREED".
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DO TAKE CAREFUL NOTE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CORPORATIONS, LIKE
"THE TOBACCO CORPS" AND THE "GAMBLING CORPS" HAVE BEEN GIVEN "AND
ACCEPTED" BY THE VERY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ESPOUSED "THEIR CHRISTIAN FAITH"
AND AGAINST MEDICAL COVERAGE FOR ALL AMERICANS, I.E. THESE ARE THE
"OUTRIGHT LIARS" THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.
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SO, IF YOU WANT TO STOP THIS BLATANT FRAUD, REFUSE TO VOTE FOR THOSE
CANDIDATES "WHO TOOK THIS DIRTY MONEY" AND SEND THEM AN E-MAIL TELLING
THEM SO.
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PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING IN YOUR OTHER GROUPS.
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Subject: 2008 PRES. CANDIDATES WHO RECEIVED MONEY FROM BIG CORPS.
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(NOTE-YOU MAY SEE A NOTICE COME UP-JUST "HIT CONTINUE" AND THE INFO
WILL COME UP.
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IN THE FIRST LINK, TYPE CANDIDATE NAME AND A LIST OF NAMES OF DONERS
WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GIVEN WILL COME UP"
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(TYPE IN CANDIDATE NAME & ENTER"
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
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CASINOS/GAMBLING
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=N07
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COMPUTERS/INTERNET
*****************************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B12
>
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EDUCATION CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=W04
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HEALTH PROFESSIONALS
********************************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=H01
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INSURANCE CORPS
************************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F09
>
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LAWYERS
*************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K01
>
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LOBBYIST MONEY
**********************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K02
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OIL AND GAS CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=E01
>
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REAL ESTATE CORPS-MULTI-MILLIONS
**********************************************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F10
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RETIREMENT ORGANIZATIONS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=W06
>
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SECURITY & INVEST CORPS
**********************************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F07
>
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TV-MOVIE CORP
*******************
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B02
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TOBACCO CORPS.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=A02
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Rico

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Dec 16, 2007, 6:02:39 PM12/16/07
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IT APPEARS THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT QUALIFICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT IN THE
BUSH REGIME IS, "TO BE A CRIMINAL".
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AND AGAIN, THIS GUY WAS WORKING THE SO-CALLED "JUSTICE DEPT." WHERE
THE ALLEGED "RULE OF LAW" EXISTS, BUT IS A MERE MYTH.
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Subject:12-14-07-
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Justice Department's Voting Rights Chief Resigns
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121507Y.shtml
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MasterChief

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Dec 16, 2007, 6:08:54 PM12/16/07
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"Rico" <ric...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:2086207b-6aa8-41e7...@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

LEG

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Dec 18, 2007, 6:48:04 PM12/18/07
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Subject: 2008 CANDIDATES & WHO THEY GOT MONEY FROM. ----

(NOTE-YOU MAY SEE A NOTICE COME UP-JUST "HIT CONTINUE" AND THE INFO
WILL COME UP.
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TYPE CANDIDATE NAME AND A LIST OF NAMES OF DONERS WITH THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY GIVEN WILL COME UP"
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(TYPE IN CANDIDATE NAME & ENTER"
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
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BANKS:
********
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F03
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TELEPHONE CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B08

LEG

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:40:22 PM12/18/07
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I FOUND THIS ARTICLE POSTED AND AGREE WITH IT.
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I.E. IF YOU DON'T MAKE ANY EFFORT IN GETTING A "GOOD PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE NOMINATED IN THE PRIMARIES", YOUR ONLY CHOICE ARE THE "RICH
S.O.B.'S WHO THE MEDIA COVERS WITH THEIR PROPAGANDA".
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Subject:HOW TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES-AND DENNIS KUCINICH
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/c9f46adb21a6e76e?dmode=print

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corinne

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Dec 22, 2007, 4:16:24 PM12/22/07
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HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE IMMATURITY OF THE SO-CALLED "LOYAL BUSHIES"
WHO ACT IN BRAIN-DEAD LOCK-STEP WITH THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME THINK THE
AMERICANS WHO ONCE BELIEVED IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO PUT UP
WITH THEIR INTENTIONAL BULLYING TACTICS AND STILL VOTE FOR THEM?
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APPARENTLY THESE ROBOT-REPUBS DIDN'T EVEN "GET THE MESSAGE" FROM THE
MANY ELECTED REPUBS WHO HAVE PROTESTED AGAINST THEIR OWN PARTY'S
FASCIST ACTIONS, MUCH LESS LOSING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF REPUBLICAN
VOTERS, WHICH COST THEM THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
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IT IS TIME FOR THESE FASCISTS TO BE EXPOSED AND THAT JOB LIES WITH THE
ELECTED REPUBS AND THOSE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE "IT IS THEY WHO
ARE "NOT" GOING TO BE ELECTED "AGAIN".
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THESE FASCIST REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE SLAPPED DOWN WITH THE SAME KIND
OF ZEAL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN USING AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THIS
TIME...THEY SHOULD BE EXPOSED AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY "THEIR OWN
PARTY", OTHERWISE, NO REPUBLICAN CAN HOLD HIS HEAD UP WITH AN DIGNITY.
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Subject:12-22-07-
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As Primaries Begin, the FEC Will Shut Down
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122207Y.shtml
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LEG

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Dec 28, 2007, 3:09:11 PM12/28/07
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IF YOU NEED SOME INFORMATION TO HELP YOU DECIDE WHO "NOT" TO VOTE
FOR..THIS WILL HELP.
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PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T TRUST THESE 3 SLICK POLITICIANS ON ANY OF
"THEIR DECISIONS" BECAUSE THEY ALL SIT ON SENATE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEES, WHICH COMMITTEES "KNEW" ALL OF THE SECRET INFO ON SADDAM
AND KNEW HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WMD, YET VOTED TO ALLOW BUSH TO INVADE,
MURDER, AND OCCUPY IRAQ.
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HERE, IN THESE TWO ARTICLES THESE 3 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE
"ADMITTING" THAT THEY PERSONALLY KNEW, AND SUPPORTED MRS. BHUTTO, WHO
IS WELL-KNOWN FOR HER CORRUPTION.
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THIS ALSO PROVES THAT THESE 3 CANDIDATES BELIEVE THAT AMERICAN VOTERS
ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE ABOVE, SO THEY ARE USING THEIR DAMNING
ADMISSIONS TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE "THEY HAVE A LOT OF FOREIGN POLICY
EXPERIENCE AND CONTACTS, WHEN IN FACT, THE ABOVE TWO REASONS SHOULD
PROVIDE VOTERS THE KNOWLEDGE TO "NOT" VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM.
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THESE 3 "SLICK CON-ARTISTS" HAVE FINALLY BEEN CAUGHT IN THE WORSE KIND
OF EXPOSE, I.E. BRAGGING ABOUT KNOWING AND LIKING CORRUPT FOREIGN
POLITICIANS, WHO THEY..LIKE THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME WOULD SUPPORT
THESE CRIMINALS FOR THE POWERFUL TOP POSITIONS IN A NATION WHICH THEY
SAY "IS DEMOCRATIC", I.E. PAKISTAN.
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GET THE WORD OUT SO AMERICANS WON'T VOTE FOR THEM IN THE PRIMARIES;
THE FIRST IS IN IOWA ON JAN.3RD.
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BUSH, CLINTON, BIDEN & MCCAIN-NOW "ON THE RECORD" THAT THEY SUPPORTED
PAKISTAN'S -DEAD MRS. BHUTTO-
KNOWING THAT SHE WAS WELL-KNOWN AS BEING CORRUPT
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122807M.shtml
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MS. BHUTTO'S BIO AND CRIMINAL BACKGROUND. --
Subject:12-28-07-
BUSH BACKED BHUTTO TO REPLACE MUSHARFF- KNOWING SHE IS CORRUPT
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122807K.shtml
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LEG

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Dec 28, 2007, 5:11:34 PM12/28/07
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NOPE..BYE BYE GULIE
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Subject:12-28-07-
Giuliani WORKED FOR DRUG MAKER WHICH DEA WAS INVESTIGATING
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122807O.shtml
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Example

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Jan 2, 2008, 2:17:54 PM1/2/08
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ON IT'S FACE, ONE CAN SEE THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GUARANTEED "THE
OPPORTUNITY" TO VOTE ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE RICH; OWN THEIR OWN
BUSINESS; OR ARE HEALTHY AND RETIRED, I.E. "THE WORKING PEOPLE" ARE
"KNOWINGLY PREVENTED FROM VOTING" AND APPARENTLY IOWA THINKS "THIS IS
A PERSONAL PROBLEM".
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DEMOCRACY IS A FAILURE IF "ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED, ARE
PREVENTED FROM VOTING".
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Subject:1-02-08-
Iowa Caucuses won't allow a lot of Iowans to Vote.
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010208K.shtml
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Bert Hyman

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Jan 2, 2008, 2:21:52 PM1/2/08
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exam...@webtv.net (Example) wrote in
news:81ababdd-d0bd-4cef...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> APPARENTLY IOWA THINKS "THIS IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM".

Since the selection of a party's nominee is strictly a party function,
why should any government body be involved in the first place?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com

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Rico

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Jan 2, 2008, 4:09:29 PM1/2/08
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ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW THE MEDIA PUTS SUCH "CUTSY" NAMES TO BLATANT
CRIMINAL ACTS?
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I.E. THE OUTRIGHT FRAUD OF THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME IN STATING
"ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE OF SADDAM'S WMD EVIDENCE" THEN CALLED IT "A
MISTAKE".
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HERE THE MEDIA CALLS ELECTION FRAUD "DIRTY TRICKS".
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Subject:1-02-08-
FRAUD Political Dirty Tricks Makes the Case for Election Reform
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010208M.shtml
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POGO

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Jan 2, 2008, 5:13:11 PM1/2/08
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NOW THE TOP DEMO PRES. CANDIDATES ARE "TALKING ABOUT": CHANGING NAFTA
TREATIES!
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WHAT IS SO IRONIC IS: HILLARY'S DEM HUSBAND, BILL: WORKED WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PRO-CORPORATIONS TO GET NAFTA PASSED.
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IF YOU THINK HILLARY IS FOR "THE WORKING PEOPLE", THINK AGAIN AND GO
TO MY POST ABOVE AND SEE "WHO HAS SUPPLIED HER WITH THE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS SHE IS USING TO BECOME PRESIDENTS, I.E. CORPORATIONS.
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IN NO WAY WILL HILLARY FIGHT AGAINST CORPORATION ABUSE NO MATTER WHAT
SHE SAYS.
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DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY "USED TO BE A REPUBLICAN?" WELL SHE WAS.
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ALSO CHECK OUT THE ABOVE POST IN THIS THREAD OF: "WHO DOES YOUR
CANDIDATE BELONG TO" FOR OBAMA AND EDWARDS.
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YOU SEE, THESE DEMS "OWE" CORPORATIONS A LOT OF FAVORS TO GET THIS
MONEY, SO THEY CAN SPEW PROPAGANDA LIKE THIS NAFTA B.S.
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FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU FIND OUT WHO "THEY REALLY ARE AND WHAT THEY
REALLY WILL OR WON'T DO, IF YOU GET THEM ELECTED ".
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THERE IS ONE DEM WHO HAS REFUSED TO ACCEPT CORPORATE MONEY; AND THE
ONLY DEM WHO HAS ACTUALLY GOT AN IMPEACHMENT BILL AND....WHO VOTED
AGAINST BUSH'S IRAQ WAR...HE IS DENNIS KUCINICH, WHO MOST AMERICANS
DON'T KNOW BECAUSE "HE DOESN'T TAKE CORPORATE MONEY".
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IT IS TIME FOR A WOMAN TO BECOME A U.S. PRESIDENT, BUT HILLARY ISN'T
THE ONE.
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DEMOCRATS ARE OBVIOUSLY "NOT THINKING" IF THEY PLAN ON VOTING FOR
HILLARY, I.E. SHE IS A REPUBLICAN WRAPPED IN A DEMO COAT.
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Subject:1-02-08-
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Top Democrat Candidates Ponder Changing NAFTA
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010208O.shtml
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POGO

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Jan 2, 2008, 5:54:16 PM1/2/08
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HOME SITE TO LOOK UP WHO GAVE CANDIDATES MONEY.
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(NOTE: CLICK ON POPUP "HANDLER" AND DATA COMES UP)
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Subject:2008 Presidential Election- DONORS- HOME SITE
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
>
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LEG

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Jan 6, 2008, 4:56:56 PM1/6/08
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THESE WASHED-UP OLD POLITICIANS SHOULD GO HOME AND TAKE THEIR VIAGRA,
PERHAPS THEN THEY WOULD "FEEL MORE LIKE A MAN".
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OTHER THAN BEING CAUGHT BY THE VIETNAMESE AND BECOMING A PRISONER,
MCCAIN HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH FOREIGN POLICY.
--
YET HERE HE IS AT 71 YEARS OLD SPEWING MORE WAR-MONGERING AND ALL THE
CONTINUED LIES ABOUT "EVERYBODY THOUGHT SADDAM HAD WMD".
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IF YOU LOVED THE PAST 7 YEARS UNDER BUSH, THEN MCCAIN IS YOUR NEW
MORON.
--
Subject:1-04-08-
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MCCAIN-100 Years in Iraq Is 'Fine' With McCain-VIDEO
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http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/print/20080104_100_years_in_iraq_is_fine_by_mccain/
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LEG

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Jan 6, 2008, 5:11:46 PM1/6/08
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PROOF THERE IS "NO" DEMOCRACY IN THE DEMO PARTY!
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Subject:1-02-08-
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Kucinich Files Lawsuit After Party Denies Him Place on Ballot
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010408S.shtml
>
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Rico

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Jan 9, 2008, 6:23:57 PM1/9/08
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NOT UNTIL EVERY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, WHO WAS A SITTING CONGRESS
PERSON DURING THE PAST 7 YEARS, IS ASKED THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION
THAT DEALS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, WILL PROVE TO ALL AMERICANS AND
THE WORLD, THAT WE HAVE A FASCIST GOVT.
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THAT QUESTION IS:
****************
AFTER 7 YEARS OF INVESTIGATIONS, MANY OF WHICH WERE HELD BY CONGRESS,
WHY HAVE YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS REFUSED TO IMPEACH THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION?
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IT IS THE DUTY OF ALL AMERICANS TO MAKE SURE THIS QUESTION IS ASKED OF
THESE CANDIDATES, EITHER THRU THE MEDIA WHO IS HOSTING THESE DEBATES,
OR BY SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHERE THE CANDIDATE IS SPEAKING AND C-
SPAN OR A LOCAL NEWS PROGRAM HAS VIDEO-TAPED IT.
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DO NOT ACT LIKE THE SHEEP THE WORLD THINKS WE ARE...DEMAND ANSWERS TO
THIS "MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION".
--
THE WORLD HATES US "DUE TO THE FASCIST TERRORIST ACTS OF THE BUSH
REGIME". IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE EFFORT TO GET THIS QUESTION ASKED, YOU
WILL CERTAINLY BE AIDING ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL YOU.
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Subject:1-07-08- U.S. War Crimes THAT ARE COVERED UP-BUT WORLD KNOWS
ABOUT
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010808F.shtml
>
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Jan 14, 2008, 2:52:09 PM1/14/08
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THOSE WHO ARE CLUELESS ABOUT "HOW" THESE 2 POLITICAL PARTIES MAKES OR
RESTRICTS THEIR PARTY MEMBERS VOTES SHOULD READ THIS ARTICLE, THEN
GOOGLE YOUR STATE'S 2 POLITICAL PARTY'S AND READ "THEIR RULES".
----
AMERICANS SHOULD BE DEMANDING THAT THE "ELECTORAL COLLEGES" BE
ELIMINATED AND THE "ONE PERSON; ONE VOTE" REPLACE IT.
---
YOUR MOST IMPORTANT "PERSONAL POWER" IS THROUGH YOUR VOTING FOR YOUR
PRESIDENT AND YOUR CONGRESS, AND AS WE SEE, "BOTH PARTIES IN OUR
CONGRESS "ACT AS ONE POLITICAL PARTY" WHEN IT COMES TO "ROBBING OUR
TREASURY AND VOTING ON ILLEGAL ACTS, LIKE "PRE-EMPTIVE BOMBING,
MURDER, INVASION, OCCUPATION AND THE TAKING OF THAT COUNTRY'S ONLY
RESOURCES.
---
IN ORDER TO "STOP THIS FASCISM", WE SHOULD ALL "RE-REGISTER AS
INDEPENDENTS OR NON-COMMITTED VOTERS" AND SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE PARTY
HEADQUARTERS IN YOUR STATE, TELLING THEM THAT "YOU REFUSE TO BE TAKEN
FOR GRANTED AND IGNORED, LIKE SOME MINDLESS SHEEP.
---
THIS ANNOUNCEMENT OF "YOUR TAKING CONTROL OF YOUR VOTE" WILL MAKE A
"SERIOUS STATEMENT" OF "WHO CONTROLS OUR GOVERNMENT".
---
OF COURSE, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR POLITICAL PROCESS IS "THE
PRIMARY ELECTION VOTING PROCESS" IN WHICH THE PARTY'S "NOMINEE" FOR
PRESIDENT IS DECIDED BY POLITICAL PARTY AND ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATE'S
NAMES, ESPECIALLY THE
INDEPENDENTS" MIGHT NOT EVEN BE PUT ON THE BALLOT, THUS THE VOTER
WOULD HAVE TO WRITE THAT CANDIDATE'S NAME IN ON THE BALLOT.
--
WE, THE PEOPLE ARE BEING INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED BY THESE 2
POLITICAL PARTIES SO "THEY STAY IN POWER" AND LOOK HOW THEY HAVE
ARROGANTLY AND ILLEGALLY ACTED WHICH HAS NEARLY DESTROYED THIS NATION,
BOTH INSIDE AND OUT RE THE ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY AND THE WORLD-WIDE
HATE AND DISTRUST OF EACH OF US.
----
STOP ACTING LIKE SHEEP AND BE SMART;
---
RE-REGISTER AS AN INDEPENDENT, AND LET YOUR PARTY KNOW TO "TAKE YOU
OFF OF THEIR PARTY MEMBERSHIP" BECAUSE YOU NO LONGER TRUST YOUR PARTY
AND HATE THEIR ILLEGAL AND ARROGANT TREATMENT.
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Subject:1-14-08-ELECT-The Real Delegate Count
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011408J.shtml
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Jan 15, 2008, 7:40:09 PM1/15/08
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THE FACT THAT A MANDATORY VOTER I.D. WORKS FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AS WELL
AS LACK OF ACCESS TO GET TO PLACE WHERE I.D.'S WILL BE MADE IS ALREADY
KNOWN TO BE A HARDSHIP BY THE SUPREME COURT, BUT IT IS CLEAR "THEY
DON'T CARE", WHICH WILL ELIMINATE MANY POOR AND DISABLED PEOPLE FROM
VOTING, WHICH VOTES ARE USUALLY FOR DEMOCRATS.
---
IN WASHINGTON STATE, THEY CHARGE BETWEEN $15 AND $30 FOR A "REGULAR
PHOTO I.D." AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FED OR STATE
DEPT. IN THEIR LITTLE TOWNS AND VILLAGES.
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YET, IT APPEARS THAT THE POOR, ELDERLY AND DISABLED ARE GOING TO BE
ORDERED TO GET THIS I.D. OR THEY CAN'T VOTE.
--
Subject:1-15-08-
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Supreme Court Reversal: Abandoning the Rights of Voters
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011508F.shtml
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Rico

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Jan 18, 2008, 3:04:39 PM1/18/08
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THESE SO-CALLED "EXPERIENCED CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES" WHO WANT TO BE
OUR NEXT PRESIDENT, HAS PROVEN TO ONE AND ALL, THAT THEY WERE
INCOMPETENT AND/OR PARTY TO..THE ILLEGAL SO-CALLED WARS ON IRAQ &
AFGHANISTAN THAT HAS ROBBED OUR TREASURY, AND "CONTINUE TO DO SO", AS
WELL AS THE CORRUPT ACTS OF "CORPORATE PREDITORY LENDERS" WHO USED THE
POOR TO BUY HOMES THEN INCREASE THEIR HOUSING PAYMENTS, AND SELL THESE
HOUSING CONTRACTS TO OTHER GREEDY CORPS WHO TOOK POSSESSION OF THESE
HOMES AND PROPERTY VIA FORECLOSURE.
--
IN OTHER WORDS, GREED AND CORRUPTION WERE BEHIND BOTH OF THESE
DISASTEROUS ACTS, AS WELL AS BLATANT VIOLATIONS OF LAW, YET THEY DID
NOTHING TO STOP IT, AND NOW WANT TO BE YOUR PRESIDENT BECAUSE "THEY
HAVE THE SOLUTION TO SOLVE THESE DISASTERS.
---
IF AMERICANS HAD ANY INTELLIGENCE, THEY WOULD THROW OUT THESE
CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES AND PUT THEM IN PRISON, NOT ELECT THEM. MANY
OF THEM ARE LAWYERS AND "KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THAT IT WAS
ILLEGAL".
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Subject:1-18-08-
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Twin Disasters- -ILLEGAL WAR & FAILING ECONOMY
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011808M.shtml
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Rico

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Jan 18, 2008, 4:40:01 PM1/18/08
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THIS IS AN INTERESTING WEBSITE WHICH APPEARS TO BE POLITICALLY NON-
BIASED, WHICH HAS RESEARCHED THE STATEMENTS AND RECORDS ON THE
CANDIDATES AND TELLS YOU, WHICH ARE LIES OR THE TRUTH.
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Subject:PolitiFact--A FACT-CHECKER OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES-HOME PAGE
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ >
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R.S.

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Jan 21, 2008, 2:53:54 PM1/21/08
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Don't be stupid and vote in Washington Insiders, they will only tell
you what you want to hear to get elected and then ignore you and let
you down after they're elected.

The Press is enabling them to steal the Elections.


Don't listen to what these Candidates say! Look at their past
records!
Are they really who you want to be in charge?


What is a matter with New Hampshire? Either they want business as
usual by putting two Washington Insiders in charge, Hilary and
McCain,
who are both American Job sellouts to India via the improperly used
corrupt H-1 Visa Program) or they're too timid to demand an
investigation that Diebold electronic voting machines robbed their
primary elections.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.congress/browse_threa...


These Candidates will not change anything, they represent the status
quo, but they will tell you anything you want to hear to get elected
though, as have those they support in leadership, President G.W. Bush
for McCain (War and its debt at the expense of the middle class and
poor) and Husband Ex-President Bill for Hillary (globalization / free
trade / loss of sovereignty at the expense of the middle class and
poor's jobs and wages and our democracy) whom they support their
ideas
and emulate them.


They will continue business as usual. (continue the embezzlement and
bankrupting of our treasury to protect Bush's Buddies big oil company
interests, the interests of the military industrial complex, and the
free trade sellout of our country's tax revenues, jobs, and wages,
social service benefits - rights and benefits already paid for by the
working class but are being embezzled).


Take the time to really look at their records. They identify with
rich
elites, big bussiness, free trade globalization, Open Borders without
security and Foreign Interests and special Interest over the average
american citizen's interests.


Hillary Clinton


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hillary+Clinton+record&btnG=Search


John McCain


http://www.google.com/search?q=John+McCain+record&hl=en&start=10&sa=N


The Majority of American Citizens the Middle class and the poor
continue to get increases in tax bills utility tax fee increases,
sales tax increases, gasoline tax increases, service fee increases
(tax increases that relate to everyday needs instead of rich
extravagances of the rich elites) paying the majority of taxes in
support of this treasury robbery, while the rich elites get massive
tax breaks even though they are receiving a much greater share of the
total income produced in this country and not allowing fair wage
increases sharing their prosperity taking their money elsewhere
(overseas).


Basically we are turning into an industrial fascist elite
dictatorship
(China's version of Communism) Making the common citizens slaves to
the elite rich puppet masters of our corrupt government.


No new taxes what a joke, time to tax the rich elite and maybe give
tax breaks only to in country U.S. Industries that only create new
jobs (not new titled reduced wage same jobs - bait and switch) and
good wages.


Trickle down economics (Not taxing the rich so they have more to
maybe
(not must) invest in local industry creating new jobs and better
wages) has never worked and with free trade globalization is
insanely
worse.


Service company profits (Like that of Walmart) made here are
transferred overseas to purchase cheaper often lower quality, even
unsafe, manufactured products. When this money leaves our country,
(unless we have a trade surplus with that manufacturing foreign
country) that money is permanently lost to our government as far as
generating new tax revenues from it.


Profits without the burden of social responsibilities to fund our
government operation and support the infrastructure, treasury,
social
programs (Social Services i.e. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
Welfare Programs, Government employees and military retirement
benefits). The rich hold onto even more of their money as they have
more than enough to purchase basic needs that the middle class and
poor are now struggling with.


Profits for basic needs industries aught to be federally regulated no
greater percentages than a reasonable amount after cost of
manufacturing, materials, labor, management, infrastructure support
and expansion (tax breaks for in country job creation only no other
justification is reasonable), no tax breaks for companies operating
businesses overseas (they don't support tax revenues or in country
U.S. jobs and wages by doing business overseas).


We need to make it unprofitable to price gouge. As percent of profit
beyond a reasonable profit increases; taxes should exponentially
increase. Extreme profits in the oil and energy industry, medical and
pharmaceutical industry, banking and mortgage industry, insurance
industry, that are now destroying the Standard of Living by the
Middle
Class and Poor must end.


Why should people who invade our country be allow jobs and social
service benefits at our expense take away these benefits, jobs,
deport
them or give them extreme incentive to self-deport if we can't deport
them, secure our borders and enforce our illegal immigration (anti-
illegal alien) Laws.


Its our country and we want it back and in our control.


Don't be stupid and vote in Washington Insiders, they will only tell
you what you want to hear to get elected and then ignore you and let
you down after they're elected.


You have the right to to be properly represented by your elected
chosen representatives don't let them ignore you demand they
represent
you!


Ask these Presidential Candidates to create a list of promised to
enact, ready to enact, immediately enacted upon being elected
executive orders that will support and defend the middle class and
poor legal citizens over foreigners, foreign interests, special
interests, and the elite rich. And repeal any that support those
interests.


Congress could act now to change things, but they won't because they
don't care.


Any Candidate who doesn't support the above ideas doesn't deserve the
presidency!


Contact Candidates and demand change.


Demand a contract for a to be enacted executive order List!


The below Candidates, I believe may be persuaded to back the middle
class and poor citizens, if they are willing to abandon some no new
tax (versus a job & Increased wage generating investment tax breaks
only) or free trade ideas for our support.


Barack Obama


http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2


John Edwards


http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/


Ron Paul


http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/


Mike Huckabee


http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=ContactUs.Home


and Contact our do nothing Congress and demand Change:


http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-63874-0-days0-orderasc-.html


More Info:


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/browse_thread...


Other Change Ideas:


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats/browse_thread/t...

Rico

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Jan 21, 2008, 3:06:12 PM1/21/08
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FACT:
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ALL 345 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND 35 MEMBERS OF THE SENATE ARE UP FOR
ELECTION THIS YEAR, IN ADDITION TO THE "TOP JOB" OF THE PRESIDENT AND
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.
--
FACT:
--
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE QUESTION ASKED OF THE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ABOUT THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES AND CORRUPTION
THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE DURING THE PAST 7 YEARS OF:
--
(1) WHY NO MEMBER OF CONGRESS, BESIDES REP. DENNIS KUCINICH HAS
SUBMITTED A BILL TO IMPEACH THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT AND VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.;
--
(2) THE MANY MASSIVE CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED BY CORPORATIONS,
AKA "WHITE COLLAR CRIMES" WHICH WERE LINKED TO POLITICIANS, BUT DEALT
WITH VIA "CIVIL LAWS AND NOT CRIMINAL LAWS", I.E. THAT THESE
PRESIDENTIAL AND CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES AGREE TO CHANGE THE LAWS
FROM "CIVIL TO CRIMINAL OFFENSES" AND HOLD ALL PERSONS CRIMINALLY
LIABLE;
--
(3) THAT "ALL" LAWS AND REGULATIONS ARE ENFORCED AND THAT ALL FEDERAL
INSPECTOR GENERALS, NOT ONLY SUBMIT A REPORT OF THE FEDERAL AGENCY
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO OVERSEE, BUT ALSO STATE "WHAT CRIMINAL
ENFORCEMENT MEASURES THEY HAVE USED TO PROSECUTE THESE CRIMES;
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HERE IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF A CHARITY FRAUD, WHICH INVOLVES WELL KNOWN
PARTICIPATES, YET NO PROSECUTION IS TAKING PLACE.
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Subject:1-18-08-
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FRAUD-Charity Draws Fire for Paying Generals
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012008G.shtml
>
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Rico

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Jan 21, 2008, 7:35:52 PM1/21/08
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THIS IS A BLATANT "CONFLICT OF INTEREST" AND BASED ON THE CONTINUOUS
CRIMINAL ACTS OF THE BUSH REGIME, THIS SHOULD BE STOPPED NOW THROUGH A
COURT INJUNCTION WITH A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER
AND HAVE THESE MACHINES CHECKED AND CERTIFIED AS BEING "CLEAN".
---
THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF TO REQUIRE "SPECIAL SECURITY PROCEDURES TO
ENSURE THESE VOTING COMPUTERS CAN'T BE ACCESSED BY ANYONE OTHER THEN A
FEDERAL AGENT WHO CAN PROGRAM AND SECURE THESE MACHINES. YOU MUST
DEMAND THIS ACTION THROUGH THE COURT.
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Subject:1-16-08-
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UNBELIEVABLE REPUB INVOLVEMENT WITH ELECTION MACHINES
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011808S.shtml
>
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LEG

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Jan 25, 2008, 8:02:04 PM1/25/08
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BETTER YET, WHY ISN'T THE MEDIA CONFRONTING THE CANDIDATES ABOUT THIS?
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Subject:1-25-08-
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US to Insist Iraq Grant It Wide Mandate in Operations
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012508K.shtml
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Jan 26, 2008, 3:57:25 PM1/26/08
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JOHN MCCAIN AND ALL THE REST OF THE "COWBOYS WHO THINK THEY ARE SO
MACHO WHEN KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS CAN NO LONGER PROFESS THEIR
"LOVE OF GOD" AND BE BELIEVED.
--
IT'S ABOUT TIME THESE RELIGIOUS LEADERS STOOD UP AND CONFRONTED THESE
PSYCHOPATHS.
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Subject:1-25-08-
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Religious Leaders Assail BUSH-WANT WAR & TORTURE STOPPED -AND
HELP FOR 36 MILLION PEOPLE IN POVERTY IN USA
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http://ipsnorthamerica.net/print.php?idnews=1273
>
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Jan 27, 2008, 3:04:26 PM1/27/08
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DIVERSION HAS BEEN THE MAIN AND MOST SUCCESSFUL TACTIC THAT THE REPUBS
HAVE USED TO MAKE SURE YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR CRIMINAL
ACTS.
--
THERE ARE MANY DEMOS WHO WANT "THE SAME POLICIES AS THESE REPUBS" AND
ARE HELL BENT TO GET THEM.
---
READ THIS ARTICLE AND SEE HOW EASILY THESE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES ARE
MAKING SURE THAT "THEIR NEW LAWS" WILL ELIMINATE THESE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.
--
BE SMART AND CONFRONT THESE CANDIDATES DURING THEIR TIME IN YOUR
CITIES; MAKE SURE THE HOSTS OF THESE DEBATES CONFRONT THEM; AND DEMAND
YOUR RIGHTS OR PUT A BELL AROUND YOUR NECK AND ACT LIKE THE SHEEP THEY
THINK YOU ARE.
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Subject:1-27-08-
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The FISA Follies, Redux
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012708Y.shtml
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Jan 27, 2008, 8:16:00 PM1/27/08
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WHEN AMERICANS START ACTING LIKE "CONCERNED CITIZENS" AND DEMANDING
IMPEACHMENT/FIRINGS OF CORRUPT POLITICIANS, THEY MIGHT BE TAKEN
SERIOUSLY. CLEARLY NO POLITICIAN DOES, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A FULL-
FLEDGED FASCIST GOVERNMENT AND THIS "FLORIDA ISSUE PROVES IT".
---
Subject:1-27-08-ELEC
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-At Florida Polls, Touch Screens and Crossed Fingers
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012708G.shtml
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Example

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Jan 28, 2008, 3:17:15 PM1/28/08
to
(1) READ HOW CONVOLUTED THE DEMS & REPUBS PARTY RULES ARE AND HOW
"YOUR VOTE MAKES ALL MOST NOTHING".
---
(2) THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CLEARLY WANT A MORE "HONEST WAY OF ELECTING
THEIR NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND THAT "ANY PERSON" COULD RUN FOR
OFFICE NO MATTER HOW LITTLE MONEY OR CORPORATE BACKING THEY HAVE;
--
(3) IT IS TIME FOR THE "INDEPENDENT THINKER" TO RID THEMSELVES OF THE
TWO POLITICAL PARTIES BECAUSE:
--
"THE POLITICIANS ELECTED IN "BOTH" PARTIES NOW LONGER LISTEN TO THE
PEOPLE "AFTER" THEY ARE ELECTED, WHICH IS WHY THESE "INDEPENDENT
THINKERS" SHOULD REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM BOTH PARTIES WHICH HAVE TAKEN
THEM FOR GRANTED;
--
(4) UNDER THE "AM. INDEPENDENT PARTY RULES" (OR ANOTHER NAME), THERE
WOULD BE "NO PRIMARIES"; NO COST; AND NO GAMES PLAYED, I.E. THEY WOULD
HAVE "ONLY ONE ELECTION..THE GENERAL ELECTION";
--
(5) UNDER THIS "ONE GENERAL ELECTION" IT WILL BE DECIDED BASED ON
"ONLY ONE PERSON--ONE VOTE";
--
(6) UNDER THE "AM. INDEPENDENT PARTY" THE ONLY FUNDS USED ARE THOSE
THAT ARE SENT TO THE AM. INDEPENDENT PARTY WHICH WILL BE USED TO HOLD
T.V. DEBATES, I.E. "NO CANDIDATE COULD USE THEIR MONEY OR ANY OTHER
MONEY, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE "SPECIAL INTERESTS" BUYING POLITICAL FAVOR;
--
(7) IT IS PAST TIME THAT THE "ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS ELIMINATED" VIA A
CHANGE IN THE CONSTITUTION OF WHICH THE "AM. INDEPENDENT PARTY WOULD
ORGANIZE IN EACH STATE".
--
IF YOU AGREE, START BY CHANGING YOUR VOTER STATUS AS "AN INDEPENDENT
VOTER" AND PASS THIS POST ON TO THE OTHER NEWSGROUPS YOU POST TO.
--
IT IS CLEAR THAT "IF" WE ARE TO TAKE BACK OUR GOVERNMENT, WE MUST
START BY "CHANGING THE WAY WE ARE FORCED TO VOTE".
---
THIS ARTICLE SHOWS HOW "YOUR VOTE CAN BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU "IF" YOU
BELONG TO THE TOP TWO POLITICAL PARTIES".
---
Subject:1-28-08-
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Superdelegates" May Hold Key to Victory for Democrats
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012808J.shtml
>
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LEG

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Feb 11, 2008, 4:35:01 PM2/11/08
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THERE IS "NO" QUESTION THAT AMERICANS ARE FED UP WITH BOTH, THE
REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT PARTIES, BECAUSE THE POLLS HAVE BEEN SHOWING
THIS FOR AT LEAST THE LAST TWO YEARS.
--

IN FACT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY "DON'T APPROVE OF
THEIR CONGRESS", EVEN MORE THAN THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME THAT THEY
ELECTED..TWICE.
--
ANYONE WITH AN I.Q. HIGHER THAN THEIR SHOE SIZE SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD
THAT THE FASCISTS WHO HAD TAKEN OVER OUR GOVERNMENT FROM 2000 TO 2004,
SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM OFFICE, EITHER BY IMPEACHMENT OR
"NO RE-ELECTION IN 2004".
--
BUT OF COURSE, THE REPUBLICANS OBVIOUSLY LOVED FOLLOWING IN "LOCK-
STEP" TO THE FASCISTS, (BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REQUIRE THINKING..ONLY
FOLLOWING ORDERS) AND THE DEMOCRATS, PER USUAL WERE TOO LAZY TO CARE
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, THUS DID NOTHING TO STOP THE FASCISTS AND
THIS NATION GOT A STRONGER, MORE ORGANIZED AND SECRET FASCIST
GOVERNMENT WHO ARROGANTLY STATED "THEY WILL TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
"WHAT THE LAW MEANS AND WHICH ONES THEY WON'T FOLLOW".
---
THUS, IN THE 2006 CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS, MANY AMERICAN VOTERS
REGISTERED AS INDEPENDENTS, AND THE SEATED REPUBLICANS WERE DEFEATED
BY THE DEMOCRATS.
--
UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEMOS, WHO HAD RAILED AGAINST THE REPUBS, TOOK UP
THE "SAME FASCIST POLICIES" THE REPUBS HAD AND AGAIN BECAME ARROGANT
AND STATED:
---
"IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE. DEMOCRATS AREN'T LIKE THAT".
--
THIS BEGGED THE QUESTION "LIKE WHAT"? AMERICANS WHO WANT CONTROL OF
THEIR OWN NATION'S GOVT. AND DEMAND REMOVAL OF A HUGE CRIMINAL ELEMENT
THAT WAS ORDERING THE KILLINGS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
CIVILIANS "IN THEIR NAMES"; AS WELL AS OUTRIGHT ROBBING THE AMERICAN
TREASURY TO FINANCE THEIR FASCIST WARS BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF THE
U.S.A.?
--
FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN DOZENS OF CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATIONS WHICH HAVE "PROVEN" THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME EXISTS AND
HAS VIOLATED OUR CONSTITUTION, U.S. LAWS, AND INTERNATIONAL TREATIES,
YET THE DEMOCRATS ARROGANTLY "STILL" REFUSE TO IMPEACH THESE TRAITORS
AND LIKE THE FASCISTS, TOTALLY IGNORE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHILE "IN
FACT" SUPPORT THE FASCISTS BY VIOLATING THEIR OATH OF OFFICE.
---
NOW WE AMERICANS ARE SITTING ON A FENCE TRYING TO DECIDE "WHAT CAN WE
DO" WHILE FACING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WHICH OF COURSE, ONLY ALLOWS
FOR TWO CANDIDATES:
--
ONE REPUBLICAN AGAINST ONE DEMOCRAT AND THEN "THE GAME STARTS AGAIN".
---
HOW ABOUT THOSE OF YOU WHO REFUSED TO BE PART OF EITHER OF THESE
PARTIES AND FILED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" ONLY TO FIND THAT YOU WERE SHUT
OUT OF BEING ABLE TO VOTE "FOR THE PERSON" WHO YOU FELT COULD CHANGE
THIS PATTERN?
--
OR, HOW ABOUT THE "OTHER POLITICAL RULES" WHERE "ONLY THE PARTY
DELEGATES WILL DECIDE WHO WILL BE THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, NO
MATTER WHO YOU VOTED FOR, ETC. ETC.
--
BOTTOM-LINE:
-----------
THESE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES "ARE IN CONTROL OF WHO YOU CAN VOTE FOR AS
PRESIDENT OF YOUR NATION" AND THESE RULES ARE DIFFERENT IN "EACH
STATE", PLUS, "ONLY A RICH CANDIDATE WILL BE CONSIDERED, "BY THE
PARTY".
---
IF THIS ISN'T A FASCIST PLAN, THEN YOU BETTER DO SOME HOMEWORK (READ
THE ARTICLES ABOVE RE FASCISM), I.E. DEMOCRACY DOES "NOT" EXIST IN
THIS SCHEME.
---
WE, AMERICANS "NOW" HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNITE WHILE THIS IS ALL
FRESH IN OUR MEMORIES AND WHILE MILLIONS OF "YOUNG AMERICANS" ARE
TRULY INTERESTED IN THEIR GOVT.
---
AS SEEN IN THIS ARTICLE, 30 REPUBLICANS ARE "VOLUNTARILY LEAVING"
THEIR CONGRESSIONAL SEATS AND THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING FROM THE SO-
CALLED "REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES" WHO REFUSED TO EVEN MENTION, GEORGE
BUSH'S NAME..THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL...THE REPUBS KNOW THAT THEY
HAVE CAUSED THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE ACTION EVER TAKEN AGAINST THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE BY BEING SO STUPID AS TO "ELIMINATE THINKING FROM
THEIR IMPORTANT POSITIONS".
---
THE FACT THAT SEN. JOHN MCCAIN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST WAR MONGERING
REPUBLICANS, WHO THE REMAINING REPUB FASCISTS, ARE SUPPORTING, HAS
CLEARLY SICKENED MANY REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
---
THE SOLUTION OF COURSE IS:
--
SETTING UP A "NEW AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY", WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY
PRIMARY ELECTION; AND ONLY A GENERAL ELECTION, OF WHICH THERE WILL
ONLY BE "ONE PERSON--ONE VOTE" AND ELIMINATION OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE (WHICH WILL REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE, WHICH WILL ALSO
BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR "OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT "WE, THE
PEOPLE" DESPERATELY NEED TO STOP ANY OTHER FASCISTS WHO THINK THEY CAN
CONTROL US, VIA "A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION".
--
HERE IS THE ARTICLE RE THE REPUBS. THINK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE
AND DECIDE IF "YOU ARE PREPARED TO MAKE THE EFFORT THAT WILL BE NEEDED
TO "CHANGE OUR POLITICAL SITUATION TO ONE OF A TRUE DEMOCRACY AND
PROTECTION AGAINST FASCISTS".
---
Subject:2-10-08-(30 Republicans Leaving Office-
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Opens seats for Independents
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021108O.shtml
>
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LEG

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FIRST, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT "OTHER TELECOM CORPORATIONS "REFUSED" TO
BE INTIMATED BY THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME AND REFUSED TO TURN OVER YOUR
E-MAILS AND PHONE RECORDS. ONE OF THEM WAS QUEST.
--
THE "FACT IS" THAT ALL OF THESE CORPORATIONS HAVE ATTORNEYS "WHO KNOW
THE PRIVACY LAWS" AND THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTACTED TO TURN THESE
RECORDS OVER TO BUSH.
--
SINCE THESE CORPORATIONS VIOLATED THE LAWS, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY
IMMUNITY FROM LAWSUITS.
---
IN FACT, ONLY THROUGH THE COURT ACTION WILL WE, AMERICANS FIND OUT
"WHO IN THE BUSH ADM. WAS INTENTIONALLY CIRCUMVENTING THESE LAWS, AND
"WHAT RECORDS THEY WANTED", I.E. "IF THESE LAWSUITS ARE KILLED, THE
FASCISTS "AGAIN" HAVE VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTION AND YOUR SO-CALLED
"GUARANTEED RIGHTS".
---
READ THE SENATE ROLL CALL TO SEE WHICH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CHOSE
TO "PROTECT THESE CORPORATIONS OVER YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS".
---
Subject: 2-12-08-FISA-SENATE REJECTS AMENDMENT- TELECOM GETS IMMUNITY
OPEN THIS URL TO THIS ARTICLE FOR MORE LINKS:
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Subject:2-12-08-FISA-Senate Protects Telecom Immunity in Spy Bill
---
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021201202_pf.html
>
-----
HERE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT WHICH GAVE
THESE TELECOM CORPS IMMUNITY.
---
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015
>
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Senate Protects Telecom Immunity in Spy Bill
---
By William Branigin and Paul KaneWashington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, February 12, 2008; 2:53 PM
---
The Senate voted today to preserve retroactive immunity from lawsuits
for telecommunications companies that cooperated with a government
eavesdropping program, decisively rejecting an amendment that would
have stripped the provision from a bill to modernize an electronic
surveillance law.
---
Senators voted 67 to 31 to shelve the amendment offered by Sens.
Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) and Russell Feingold (D-Wis.). A
filibuster-proof 60 votes had been needed for the amendment to move
forward.
---
The vote represented a victory for the Bush administration and a
number of telecommunications companies -- including AT&T and Sprint
Nextel -- that face dozens of lawsuits from customers seeking billions
of dollars in damages.
---
Approval of the amendment would have exposed the companies to privacy
lawsuits for helping the administration monitor the calls of suspected
terrorists without warrants from a special court following the Sept.
11, 2001, attacks.
---
The amendment was one of a series the Senate is considering today to
modify legislation that would extend the government's authority to
carry out electronic surveillance against targets outside the United
States.
---
President Bush has called on Congress to rapidly renew the
surveillance authority granted to the federal government in the
Protect America Act approved last year.
---
But he has vowed to veto any bill that does not shield the companies
that helped the government carry out the warrantless wiretapping
program he ordered after the Sept. 11 attacks.
---
About 40 lawsuits have been filed against U.S. telecommunications
companies by plaintiffs who alleged that the firms' actions violated
wiretapping and privacy laws.
---
Immunity from such lawsuits must also be approved by the House, which
does not provide such protection in its version of the bill.
---
The Senate bill is aimed at modernizing the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act of 1978.
---
The Protect America Act last year gave the government expanded
authority to carry out surveillance, but its provisions expired Feb.
1. Congress and Bush agreed to an extension that runs out Friday.
---
In debate on the Senate floor before the vote, Dodd said it was a bad
precedent to grant retroactive immunity to telecommunications
companies, and he urged senators to "allow the courts to do their
job."
----
Arguing against the amendment, Sen. Christopher S. Bond (R-Mo.) said
that permitting lawsuits against the companies would lead to public
disclosure of vital intelligence-gathering methods and would
discourage the private sector from cooperating with the government in
the future. He said the companies facing lawsuits had acted "in good
faith," and he called the immunity provision "an essential part of
this bill."
---
Seventeen Democrats and one independent joined 49 Republicans in
voting against the Dodd-Feingold amendment. Among those voting with
the majority was Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the leading candidate for
the GOP presidential nomination.
---
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who is battling for the Democratic
nomination, voted in favor of the amendment.
---
His chief rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), did not vote.
---
Civil liberties groups denounced the Senate's action. "When companies
break the law, they should be held accountable by our government --
not given a multimillion-dollar favor," said Caroline Fredrickson,
director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington
Legislative Office. ----
"The millions of Americans who are telecom customers deserve to know
that their phone conversations are private."
---
In a statement, she charged that telecommunications companies
"illegally turned over private customer call information to the
government." But instead of "having faith in the U.S. court system to
fairly handle these cases," she said, the Senate opted to "give the
telecom providers a get-out-of-jail-free card."
---
The Senate today also rejected two other amendments aimed at diluting
the immunity provision.
----
One would have allowed the lawsuits to go forward but would have made
the federal government--not the telecommunications companies--the
defendant in those cases. The measure, co-sponsored by Sens. Arlen
Specter (R-Pa.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), was rejected 68 to
30.
--
The other rejected amendment, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-
Calif.), would have authorized the secret FISA court, which oversees
federal surveillance of foreign intelligence and terrorism suspects
inside the United States, to decide whether a company could be sued
for providing customers' records to the government. It was defeated by
a vote of 57 to 41.
---
��2008�The Washington Post Company

JACKEL

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THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES YOUR POLITICIAN PAY ATTENTION TO YOU, THEN
THE THREAT OF "NOT BEING RE-ELECTED"; AND THAT INCLUDES "MONEY",
BECAUSE THE ENTIRE REASON "FOR GETTING MONEY IS TO PAY FOR POLITICAL
T.V. ADS, ETC.
---
READ THIS ARTICLE AND MAKE A COPY OF IT; THEN FIND MY POST ON THIS
THREAD TO GET YOUR POLITICIAN'S E-MAIL
AND DEMAND THAT IF THEY DON'T SETUP THIS "ALTERNATIVE FUEL
MANUFACTURING PROJECT", THAT YOU WILL VOTE FOR "ANYONE WHO RUNS
AGAINST HIM/HER"?
---
Subject:2-15-08-ECON-MATCHING THE NEED FOR JOBS & RENEWABLE ENERGY
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021508J.shtml
>
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LEG

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:12:54 PM2/16/08
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THIS SITUATION IS JUST ONE OF MANY THAT CAUSED ME TO TEAR UP MY DEMO-
PARTY VOTER CARD.
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I.E. IT IS "NOT" THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE CHOOSING THEIR CANDIDATE, IT
"IS" THE INTERNAL DEM FASCISTS WHO CONTROL WHO WILL BE ON THE PRIMARY
AND GENERAL ELECTION BALLOTS.
---
I SAY, LETS "ALL", REPUB & DEMS RE-REGISTER AS "INDEPENDENTS" AND THEN
FORM AN "AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY" TO RID OURSELVES OF "THIS
UNDEMOCRATIC SITUATION".
---
WE SHOULD BE "GUARANTEED" ONE PERSON AND ONE VOTE AT ALL PRIMARIES,
AND THE CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST VOTES, WOULD BE THE WINNER TO RUN
AGAINST ALL OTHER PARTY'S CANDIDATES AT THE GENERAL ELECTION.
--
BECAUSE "WE, THE PEOPLE" OWN THE AIRWAYS, ALL CANDIDATES WOULD BE
RESTRICTED TO T.V. AND RADIO EXPOSURE, OF WHICH WE, SHOULD GET A LAW
PASSED TO MAKE THIS SO.
---
THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE UNHEALTHY AND UNDEMOCRATIC SITUATION OF "ONLY
THOSE WHO ARE RICH OR WHO WILL PROSTITUTE THEMSELVES AND THEIR OFFICE
IN EXCHANGE FOR SO-CALLED "CAMPAIGN DONATIONS", WHEN WE ALL KNOW "THIS
IS NOTHING MORE THAN BRIBERY".
---
IF "WE, THE PEOPLE" WANT TO RESTORE OUR NATION AND TAKE BACK THE
CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT FROM THESE FASCISTS, WE MUST START "NOW"
WHILE EVERYONE CAN SEE "THE REALITY" OF OUR UNDEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS, AT
WHICH WE ARE "FORCED" TO ACCEPT CANDIDATES THAT WE DON'T WANT.
---
Subject:2-16-08-Gore May Broker Peace at DEM Convention
--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021608Z.shtml
>


LEG

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:56:14 PM2/16/08
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WHAT IS THE REPUB PARTY THINKING? OOPS THAT'S AN OXYMORON STATEMENT.
---
THIS CLOSE-UP LOOK AT THE GOP PARTY'S TOTAL INCOMPETENCE IN FINANCIAL
MGT. JUST PROVES THAT THEIR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE RUNS THROUGHOUT THE
STATES AND RIGHT UP TO THE NATION'S TREASURY, ALBEIT THAT CHENEY
CLEARLY USED THESE MORONS (ESPECIALLY BUSH) TO MAKE MULTI-BILLIONS FOR
HIS HALIBURTON COMPANY.
--
THE GLARING FACT THAT MILLIONS OF REPUBLICANS HAVE LEFT THE REPUB
PARTY AND RE-REGISTERED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" SO AS TO TELL THE GOP
PARTY THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LISTENED TO, HAS ONLY PROVED HOW MORONIC
THESE REPUB FASCISTS ARE BECAUSE "THEY DON'T WANT THE INDEPENDENTS TO
VOTE IN "THEIR PRIMARY".
---
I'M TELLING YOU AMERICANS, "WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO SHUT
DOWN THESE TWO FASCIST POLITICAL PARTIES (SEE MY POST ABOVE RE THE
DEMS) AND SET UP OUR "AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY" WHERE IT WILL BE
"ONE PERSON--ONE VOTE", THAT IS...IF THE REPUBS WANT TO START BEING
CONCERNED ABOUT "ALL AMERICANS" AND THEIR STATUS, BEGINNING WITH
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, OF WHICH MANY "BLUE COLLAR REPUB WORKERS" CAN'T
AFFORD AND THEIR REPUB EMPLOYERS HAVE REFUSED TO PROVIDE VIA THE MANY
EMPLOYERS GOING TOGETHER TO GET A LOW COST HEALTH PLAN.
--
I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY A "WORKING PERSON WOULD EVER BELONG TO A
POLITICAL PARTY WHICH HAS BEEN HELL-BENT ON DENYING THESE REPUB
VOTERS, "THE VERY BENEFITS THAT THEY GET VIA GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT",
OF WHICH, "THESE MILLIONS OF REPUB WORKERS ARE "PAYING FOR THESE REPUB
GOVT. EMPLOYEES". STUPID...YOU BET IT IS AND THEY (REPUB WORKERS)
NEVER GET IT.
---
THIS ARTICLE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN "THE HISTORY OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY".
---
Subject:2-16-08-
--
California Repulicans in Turmoil
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021608Y.shtml
>
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DeserTBoB

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Feb 16, 2008, 6:00:32 PM2/16/08
to
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:56:14 -0800 (PST), LEG <LEG...@webtv.net>
wrote:

>THE GLARING FACT THAT MILLIONS OF REPUBLICANS HAVE LEFT THE REPUB
>PARTY AND RE-REGISTERED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" SO AS TO TELL THE GOP
>PARTY THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LISTENED TO, HAS ONLY PROVED HOW MORONIC
>THESE REPUB FASCISTS ARE BECAUSE "THEY DON'T WANT THE INDEPENDENTS TO

>VOTE IN "THEIR PRIMARY". <snip>

That's going to hurt them, too (as IF they haven't done enough
self-mutilation already)...Jerry Brown will be the next governor of
California.

Itchy

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Feb 16, 2008, 10:00:12 PM2/16/08
to
DeserTBoB <des...@rglobal.net> wrote in
news:7oqer3pceslitkfpm...@4ax.com:

Man let's HOPE SO.. Maybe the public won't go for Hillary Clinton 'cos
she's a woman..or Obama 'cos he is a black.. the guy downstairs told me
Obama would be assasinated.

The American public, and ANY public operates on the "gut". It is form,
not content.

I am tired of worrying about it. I have my one little vote, and I am
gonna vote Democratic. I shouldn't even be on this group...except it is
so much fun to curse Harry Dope, Filthy and Flannigan.

Governor Swill

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Feb 18, 2008, 1:47:26 AM2/18/08
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DeserTBoB <des...@rglobal.net> used a stick in the sand to babble

I don't see any reason for his all cap drama but it's pretty clear
now, if it wasn't in November of 2006 that the GOP mainstream is
pretty much done with it's religious right wing. Enough so to give
it's own conservatives a kick in the ass for their Devil's alliance
with the Churchies.

There are excellent reasons for SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE and it
would appear the GOP has been reminded for the second time in the
space of less than a century.

Swill

JACKEL

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Feb 18, 2008, 5:59:41 PM2/18/08
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FOR OVER 7 YEARS NOW, THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME HAS BLATANTLY VIOLATED
OUR CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAWS OF WHICH, THE BUSH REGIME CLAIMED
"WERE NEEDED TO BE SECRET, ETC. DUE TO "THE WAR ON TERROR".
--
IT IS TIME THAT WE, AMERICANS GET SMART AND DEMAND A "PROMISE" FROM
ALL OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES WHO ARE DESPERATELY FIGHTING WITH
EACH OTHER IN ORDER TO GET "OUR VOTES".
--
CONSEQUENTLY, "WE HAVE THE POWER" TO MAKE OR BREAK THEIR DREAM COME
TRUE AND WE SHOULD USE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION
AND OUR OWN SURVIVAL IN IT.
--
WE SHOULD "DEMAND THAT IF WE VOTE THEM IN AS PRESIDENT, THEIR "FIRST
OFFICIAL ACT" WOULD BE TO "MAKE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER" IN THIS TIME OF
WAR, TO REPEAL ALL FEDERAL MONEY THAT IS GOING TO "ALL FEDERAL
EMPLOYEES" FOR:
--
(1) MEDICAL INSURANCE;
--
(2) PENSION PROGRAMS;
--
(3) WAGE INCREASES; AND
--
(4) AUTOMATICE COST-OF-LIVING WAGE INCREASES.
--
IT IS "A FACT" THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE "OUR PUBLIC
SERVANTS", YET THEY ARE GUARANTEED "MORE MONEY AND HEALTH & RETIREMENT
BENEFITS, OVER THE AVERAGE AMERICAN WORKER WHO IS NOW IN A CRISIS DUE
TO "LACK OF JOBS AND LACK OF OUR TREASURY", I.E. IT IS TIME THAT "OUR
PUBLIC SERVANTS WILL "NOT" BE PLACED IN A POSITION GREATER THAN THE
AVERAGE AMERICAN WORKER.
--
THERE WILL OF COURSE, BE SCREAMS FROM THESE FED WORKERS WHO WILL SAY
THAT "THEY HAVE UNION CONTRACTS WHICH CAN'T BE BROKEN".
---
THAT OF COURSE IS WRONG, I.E. REAGAN REFUSED TO HIRE BACK THE STRIKING
AIRPORT CONTROLLERS, DUE TO THE "SAFETY CRISIS" THEIR STRIKE WOULD
CAUSE.
--
THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS "ARE NOW IN CRISIS" ON MANY LEVELS, ALL DUE
TO CORPORATE GREED AND GOVT. PROTECTION OF CORPORATIONS.
--
IF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE REFUSES TO MAKE SUCH AN ORDER, THEN WE,
AMERICANS WILL ASK THE NEXT CANDIDATES, UNTIL ONE AGREES.
--
FACT:
--
UNTIL WE HAVE AN "EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATION" THAT AGREES TO HELP
AMERICANS SURVIVE, WHILE THEY DENY US "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" TO SURVIVE,
WE WILL REFUSE TO PAY FOR THEIR "CORPORATE WELFARE FRAUD".
--
THIS ARTICLE MAKES CLEAR WHAT THE POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN DOING TO US,
ESPECIALLY THE REPUBLICANS WHO CALL "THESE SAME PROGRAMS, WELFARE
ENTITLEMENTS" WHEN THEY APPLY TO WE, CITIZENS.
--
THE FED GOVT., AS IN ALL FASCIST SYSTEMS, MAKES SURE "THEIR ARMY
AGAINST THE PEOPLE, WANT FOR NOTHING AND STAY LOYAL TO THEM, BECAUSE
OF IT, WHICH "BENEFITS" ARE PAID FOR VIA THE TAXES ON THE "WORKING
POOR".
--
Subject:2-13-08-
--
The Middle Is Falling Out of the Economy
---
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/021508LA.shtml
>
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JACKEL

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Feb 18, 2008, 6:54:28 PM2/18/08
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++++++++
WHILE WE'RE AT IT, I THINK IT IS TIME THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES USE A
"TIME CLOCK" TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR TIME.
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Subject:2-15-08-
--
Best US Factory Jobs In Rising Jeopardy
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http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/021508LB.shtml
>
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JACKEL

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Feb 18, 2008, 7:22:47 PM2/18/08
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+++++++++++
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE CANADIAN'S HEALTHCARE PROGRAM AND READ WHAT
HILLARY AND BARAK'S HEALTH PLANS ARE..I DON'T THINK THAT REPUB MCCAIN
HAS ONE..HE WANTS TO STAY IN IRAQ FOR 100 YEARS AND THAT WILL TAKE
EVERY CENT OF OUR TAXES...SO HE CAN BE "THE WAR PRESIDENT".
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Subject:2-11-08-
--
HEALTH CARE-Debunking the Free Marketeers
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http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/021508HA.shtml
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SARA

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Feb 25, 2008, 6:02:15 PM2/25/08
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I AM SURE HILLARY IS GETTING THE NEWS THAT SHE HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN A
LIE OR FLIP-FLOP, WHICH EVER TERM YOU CHOOSE, SO IT WILL BE VERY
INTERESTING WHEN SHE CONFRONTS OBAMBA TOMORROW AT A DEBATE SHE
DEMANDED TO HAVE RE FLIERS HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND OUT RE "HER RECORD
ON ISSUES".
---
I HAD MADE A POST ON THIS THREAD ABOUT THE WOMEN WHO ARE SUPPORTING
HER. I SAID: "IT IS PAST TIME THAT A WOMAN BECAME THE FIRST U.S.
PRESIDENT...BUT "NOT" THIS ONE.
---
Subject:2-25-08-
---
Hillary Clinton's NAFTA U-turn says something about her
---
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2004198705&zsection_id=268883724&slug=sirota25&date=20080225
---
Hillary Clinton's NAFTA U-turn says something about her � and us
---
By David Sirota
Syndicated Columnist
---
When it came to sex, Bill Clinton made us debate the definition of
"is." Now, when it comes to economics, Hillary Clinton wants to debate
the definition of "long," claiming last week in Ohio that "I've long
been a critic of the shortcomings of NAFTA."
---
True, Clinton has recently criticized NAFTA � the 1993 trade policy
whose lack of labor and environmental protections encourages companies
to move American jobs overseas.
---
But cheap campaign rhetoric over a few months does not make one a
longtime critic � especially considering the record.
---
During Clinton's 1996 visit to Texas, United Press International
reported that she "touted the president's support for NAFTA."
---
In her memoir, Clinton trumpeted her husband's "successes on the
budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."
----
The Buffalo News reports that in 1998 she "praised corporations for
mounting 'a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of
NAFTA.' "
---
And last year, her lead Wall Street fundraiser told reporters that
Clinton remains "committed" to NAFTA's "free" trade structure.
---
Clinton's attempt to hide this history emulates a principle pioneered
by George W. Bush in this, the age of stenographic journalism. As he
made his unsubstantiated case for war, Bush proved that the media are
willing to present politicians' lies as fact.
--
Clinton simply figures that if she says she has "long been a critic"
of NAFTA, then the assertion will be transcribed as truth.
---
That said, her U-turn is about more than dishonesty � it is about the
public will.
---
Back when Clinton was the Democrats' presumptive nominee, she wasn't
saying much about trade.
---
And in amassing her much-vaunted "experience" in Congress, she never
led a fight to reform NAFTA.
---
But now that she is in a competitive nomination contest, Clinton has
to try to make her record palatable to voters rather than to corporate
lobbyists � and that means reflecting America's understandable anger.
---
A September NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found 59 percent of the
country believes existing trade policy "has been bad for the U.S.
economy."
---
In January, Fortune magazine found 68 percent believes other countries
"are benefiting the most from free trade, not the U.S."
---
Exit polls in 2004 showed 70 percent of Ohio Democratic voters blamed
trade policies for job losses, and those numbers could be even higher
in the state's March 4 primary.
---
Barack Obama is promising to transform trade policies so that they do
not encourage outsourcing.
---
He is also reminding voters of Clinton's support for NAFTA.
---
The two-pronged message, while belated, perfectly illustrates the
difference between "change" and "more of the same" � and not just in
the primary.
---
The Illinois senator says he wants to win back blue-collar "Reagan
Democrats" in the general election. His populism on trade will help.
---
The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that "by a nearly 2-to-1
margin, Republican voters believe free trade is bad for the U.S.
economy." --- Similarly, a Democracy Corps poll showed that unfair
trade policy was the top concern of self-described Republicans who
considered casting a Democratic vote in 2006.
---
Against NAFTA cheerleader Sen. John McCain, the Republican front-
runner, Obama's fair-trade position can win over these disillusioned
voters.
---
The media will be the big obstacle. Though the public wants reform and
BusinessWeek reports that economists are reconsidering their support
of NAFTA-style trade deals, the Washington punditburo has long
worshipped the status quo on this issue.
---
When NAFTA was originally debated and polls showed the country divided
over its passage, Washington Post editorial page editor Meg Greenfield
justified her refusal to publish anti-NAFTA commentary by saying that
"columnists of the left, right and middle are all in agreement" in
support of the deal.
---
Today, that Orwellian blackout has mutated into an onslaught, with the
Post's editorial board lambasting Obama for his fair-trade rhetoric.
---
But as Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio told The Nation magazine,
the naysaying should be ignored. Brown said the media attacked him for
opposing NAFTA, "And so what? I won by well into double-digits, in a
slightly Republican state, against an incumbent."
---
If Obama heeds that advice, neither Clintonian obfuscation nor media
vitriol can stop him. He will be on his way to victory and, more
importantly, to building a real mandate � one that will finally force
Washington to fix America's broken trade policy.
---
David Sirota is the author of "Hostile Takeover" (Crown, 2006). He is
a fellow at the Campaign for America's Future and a board member of
the Progressive States Network. His blog is at www.credoaction.com/sirota
2008, Creators Syndicate, Inc.


Governor Swill

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SARA <sar...@webtv.net> used a stick in the sand to babble

>I AM SURE HILLARY IS GETTING THE NEWS THAT SHE HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN A
>LIE OR FLIP-FLOP,

Name one political candidate that has not been caught in a lie or a
flip flop.

Swill
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THIS is how we have to win the Iraq War
http://www.wheelchairsforiraqikids.com/

Example

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Mar 5, 2008, 1:21:19 PM3/5/08
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THIS INT'L TREATY WITH IRAQ IS TO ENSURE THAT U.S. TROOPS "STAY IN
IRAQ", NO MATTER WHAT THE NEXT PRESIDENT DOES.
-----
THE U.S. CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THAT CONGRESS MUST APPROVE ALL
INTERNATIONAL TREATIES, BUT AGAIN, BUSH AND HIS FASCIST ATTORNEYS ARE
STATING THAT BUSH HAS PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY TO ACT ALONE.
---
THANKS TO THE COWARDLY DEMO PARTY, THEY HAVE ALLOWED BUSH TO DO MANY
ILLEGAL AND IMPEACHABLE ACTS, WHICH THEY SAY:
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"WE WILL NOT IMPEACH THAT IS NOT WHO "WE" ARE!"
---
THEN WHO IN THE HELL ARE "THEY"?
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ANSWER: MORE TREASONOUS FASCISTS. ---
BUT.."ALL" MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ARE "UP FOR RE-
ELECTION THIS YEAR", AS WELL AS SOME SENATORS.
---
SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE DEMO & REPUB PARTY BY RE-REGISTERING AS AN
"INDEPENDENT", THEN VOTE FOR "THE OTHER CANDIDATE", OR WRITE ONE IN.
WHEN BOTH PARTIES "SEE" THAT THEY ARE LOSING MILLIONS OF "THINKING
CITIZENS", THEY WILL STOP TAKING US FOR GRANTED AND TREATING US LIKE
SHEEP.
--
THE "FIRST" KING GEORGE LEARNED THAT LESSON VERY WELL.
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OUR SO-CALLED U.S. "PUBLIC SERVANTS" MUST LEARN THE FACT THAT "THEY
WORK FOR US" AND "WE CONTROL OUR GOVT...NOT THEM".
---
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HERE IS THE WRITE UP ON THIS 3 HOUR CONGRESSIONAL HEARING.
---
IT WAS ON C-SPAN2 LAST NIGHT. THE SECOND PANEL IS MADE UP OF
CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEYS.
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THEY WILL REPLAY THIS ONE MORE TIME. CLICK ON THE BELOW C-SPAN
SCHEDULE TO FIND OUT WHEN IT WILL REPLAY, OR..GO TO
----
http://www.c-span.org
>
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AND FIND THE VIDEO LINK TO REPLAY IT ON YOUR COMPUTER.
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Subject:3-04-08-C-SPAN-CONG.HRG. RE IRAQI "AGREEMENT" WITH U.S. RE
TROOPS
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogra...
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Subject:C-SPAN: Full Schedule
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp
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SARA

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Mar 8, 2008, 12:54:22 PM3/8/08
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Subject:Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - PROJECT VOTE SMART
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http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=55463
>
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SARA

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Mar 8, 2008, 1:26:28 PM3/8/08
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IF YOU LOVED BUSH-& THE LAST 7 YEARS..THIS IS YOUR MAN.
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Subject:Senator John Sidney McCain III - PROJECT-VOTE SMART-Biography
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http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53270
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SARA

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Mar 8, 2008, 1:36:52 PM3/8/08
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Subject:Senator Barack H. Obama Jr.
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http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=9490
>
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veshopping

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Mar 9, 2008, 2:26:42 PM3/9/08
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On 2月26日, 上午7时02分, SARA <sara...@webtv.net> wrote:
> I AM SURE HILLARY IS GETTING THE NEWS THAT SHE HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN A
> LIE OR FLIP-FLOP, WHICH EVER TERM YOU CHOOSE, SO IT WILL BE VERY
> INTERESTING WHEN SHE CONFRONTS OBAMBA TOMORROW AT A DEBATE SHE
> DEMANDED TO HAVE RE FLIERS HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND OUT RE "HER RECORD
> ON ISSUES".
> ---
> I HAD MADE A POST ON THIS THREAD ABOUT THE WOMEN WHO ARE SUPPORTING
> HER. I SAID: "IT IS PAST TIME THAT A WOMAN BECAME THE FIRST U.S.
> PRESIDENT...BUT "NOT" THIS ONE.
> ---
> Subject:2-25-08-
> ---
> Hillary Clinton's NAFTA U-turn says something about her
> ---http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=20...
> country believes existingtradepolicy "has been bad for the U.S.

> economy."
> ---
> In January, Fortune magazine found 68 percent believes other countries
> "are benefiting the most from freetrade, not the U.S."
> ---
> Exit polls in 2004 showed 70 percent of Ohio Democratic voters blamedtradepolicies for job losses, and those numbers could be even higher

> in the state's March 4 primary.
> ---
> Barack Obama is promising to transformtradepolicies so that they do

> not encourage outsourcing.
> ---
> He is also reminding voters of Clinton's support for NAFTA.
> ---
> The two-pronged message, while belated, perfectly illustrates the
> difference between "change" and "more of the same" � and not just in
> the primary.
> ---
> The Illinois senator says he wants to win back blue-collar "Reagan
> Democrats" in the general election. His populism ontradewill help.

> ---
> The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that "by a nearly 2-to-1
> margin, Republican voters believe freetradeis bad for the U.S.
> economy." --- Similarly, a Democracy Corps poll showed that unfairtradepolicy was the top concern of self-described Republicans who

> considered casting a Democratic vote in 2006.
> ---
> Against NAFTA cheerleader Sen. John McCain, the Republican front-
> runner, Obama's fair-tradeposition can win over these disillusioned

> voters.
> ---
> The media will be the big obstacle. Though the public wants reform and
> BusinessWeek reports that economists are reconsidering their support
> of NAFTA-styletradedeals, the Washington punditburo has long

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LEG

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Mar 18, 2008, 5:47:41 PM3/18/08
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REMEMBER THE PHOTOS OF MCCAIN'S WALK DOWN IRAQI STREETS & FRAUDULENT
STATEMENTS ABOUT "HOW SAFE IRAQ IS NOW", ONLY TO BE CAUGHT BY A
PHOTOGRAPHER WHO EXPOSED HIM WITH PHOTOS SHOWING 100 U.S. SOLDIERS
GUARDING HIM AT THE TIME, BUT WERE NOT SEEN IN THE VIDEO VERSION SHOWN
ON TV?
--
WELL, MCCAIN HAS AGAIN PULLED THIS FRAUDULENT PROPAGANDA BY STATING
"IRAQ IS MUCH MORE SAFER" (THIS TIME WITH NO PHOTOS OF HIM ON IRAQI
STREETS).
--
HIS RECENT STATEMENTS WERE MADE "AT THE SAME TIME THAT TWO REPORTS
CAME OUT SHOWING THE CRISIS THAT EXISTS IN IRAQ" (READ BELOW ARTICLE).
--
NOW...DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MCCAIN WAS "LOSING" AS A REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, THEN "SUDDENLY" MCCAIN ASSURED EVERYONE THAT
"HE WAS GOING TO BE THE GOP CANDIDATE" AND THEN..ALL OF THE GOP
CANDIDATES DROPPED OUT?
--
THE MEDIA WAS FULL OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A "MAVERICK"
MCCLAIN WAS AND HOW THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T FEEL HE WAS "A GOOD
REPUBLICAN", I.E. IN LOCK-STEP WITH THEM, THEREFORE HE WOULDN'T BE
NOMINATED.
--
IT IS CLEAR THAT MCCAIN'S SUDDEN RISE TO THE TOP OF THE GOP TICKET
CAN'T PASS THE "SMELL TEST", I.E. SOMETHING VERY ROTTEN IS HAPPENING
FOR ALL OF THIS TO TAKE PLACE IN JUST A MATTER OF WEEKS.
---
I, LIKE MILLIONS OF OTHERS, ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS, DO NOT THINK ANY
REPUBLICAN CAN WIN THE PRESIDENCY. THUS, IT IS MY GUT FEELING THAT
MCCAIN, WHO IS POLITICALLY WASHED UP AND TOO OLD AND TIRED AND WANTS
TO RESIGN, BUT HAS NO MONEY HIMSELF, EVEN THO HIS WIFE IS ALLEGEDLY
RICH, WANTS TO LEAVE THE POLITICAL SCENE WITH TONS OF MONEY.
--
ENTER THE "BIG-BIG-BOYS" WHO HAVE THE MONEY TO MAKE MCCAIN'S LIFE A
LIFE OF LEISURE AND ALL HE HAS TO DO IS "CONVINCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THAT THE U.S. SHOULD "STAY IN IRAQ FOR 100 YEARS", JUST LIKE HE TOLD
US, HE WOULD DO.
---
NOT ONLY WAS THIS 100 YEAR STAY IN IRAQ STATEMENT TOTALLY LUDICROUS
WHEN THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT US OUT OF IRAQ, IT WOULD SEAL HIS
FATE OF NOT BEING ELECTED.
---
BUT...IF HE COULD CONVINCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY
CONGRESS THAT "THEY WILL BE GUILTY OF GENOCIDE" IF THEY LEAVE IRAQ TOO
SOON, IT WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR THE MASSIVE MILITARY CORPS TO STAY AND
ENSURE THE TAKEOVER OF IRAQ'S OIL.
--
AND THIS DEAR AMERICANS IS "HOW THE OLD GREEDY POLITICIANS-TURNED-
PROSTITUTE:
--
GUARANTEE THEMSELVES OF MULTI-MILLIONS OF DOLLARS; STOCK IN THESE
CORPS AND A GREAT DO NOTHING JOB THAT PAYS THESE MULTI-MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
---
WITH THAT SCENARIO, ALL OF THE ABOVE NOW MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN
IT COMES TO THE "REPUBLICAN CABAL OF "ONLY MONEY IS OUR PRIORITY".
---
NOW READ THIS ARTICLE WHICH TOTALLY REFUTES MCCAIN'S LYING FRAUD ON
AMERICANS.
---
IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME WAS LYING THRU THEIR
TEETH ABOUT "BRINGING DEMOCRACY TO IRAQ AND REMOVING A DICTATOR" AS
THEIR ALLEDGED "JUSTIFICATION TO VIOLATE INTERNATIONAL LAW AND
COMMITTING WAR CRIMES, WHEN THESE U.S. FASCISTS ARE FAR WORSE THAN
SADDAM HUSSEIN, WHO WE SUPPLIED WITH THE WMD HE ONCE HAD.
---
Subject: 3-18-08-IRAQ-IS AS BAD, IF NOT WORSE THAN UNDER SADDAM
LINK TO ARTICLE AT BOTTOM:
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Reports: 'Disastrous' Iraqi humanitarian crisis
-----------
Story Highlights
Amnesty International and The Red Cross released reports Monday
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Amnesty report: "A climate of impunity has prevailed; the economy is
in tatters"
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Amnesty says conditions for women have worsened with rise of religious
groups
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Vice President Dick Cheney describes: "war as success" with challenges
---
(CNN) -- As the war in Iraq reaches its five-year anniversary this
week, two of the world's leading humanitarian groups issued extensive
reports Monday describing:
---
"a crisis of huge proportions with little reason for hope."
---
"Despite claims that the security situation has improved in recent
months, the human rights situation is disastrous," Amnesty
International says in its report, titled "Carnage and Despair: Iraq
Five Years On."
---
In a summary of the report, Amnesty writes that "a climate of impunity
has prevailed, the economy is in tatters and the refugee crisis" keeps
escalating.
---
The International Committee of the Red Cross, in a report titled
"Iraq: No Let-up in the Humanitarian Crisis," writes,
---
"Despite limited improvements in security in some areas, armed
violence is still having a disastrous impact.
---
Civilians continue to be killed in the hostilities.
---
"The injured often do not receive adequate medical care. Millions of
people have been forced to rely on insufficient supplies of poor-
quality water as water and sewage systems suffer from a lack of
maintenance and a shortage of engineers."
---
The Bush administration and many Republican lawmakers, including
presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, have frequently praised
successes in Iraq in recent months, noting improvements in security in
key areas.
---
They attribute that in part to the buildup of U.S. troops in Iraq
ordered by President Bush last year.
---
Vice President Dick Cheney described the five year U.S.-led invasion
of Iraq in a news conference Monday during a visit to Baghdad.
---
"This week marks the fifth anniversary," said Cheney. "It has been a
difficult, challenging, but "none the less successful endeavor."
*****************************************
Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack
Obama, have said the government failed to use the downturn in violence
to achieve the steps it was supposed to make possible.
---
Sen. John McCain met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on
Monday where he stressed the United States' commitment to Iraq.
---
"We recognize that al Qaeda is on the run, but they are not defeated.
Al Qaeda continues to pose a great threat to the security and very
existence of Iraq as a democracy. So we know there's still a lot more
work that needs to be done," he said.
---
Amnesty writes, "Key political benchmarks have yet to be realized."
---
Both Amnesty and the Red Cross slam the Iraqi government for failing
to grapple with the critical needs of their populations.
---
Amnesty also says:
the Iraqi government and
the U.S.-led Multi-National Forces
***************************************
"are responsible" for:
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some nightmarish circumstances.
*************************************
"Civilians are also at risk from Multi-National Forces and Iraqi
security forces, with
----
many killed by excessive force and tens of
**********************************************
thousands detained without charge or trial,"
**********************************************
Amnesty writes in its summary.
---
"The death penalty was reintroduced in 2004
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and hundreds of people have been sentenced
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to death. At least 33 people were executed in
**********************************************
2007, many after unfair trials."
********************************
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In its report, Amnesty says the Iraqi government "has failed to
introduce practical measures to deal with the gross and serious human
rights violations perpetrated by its security forces.
---
There appears to be no serious willingness to investigate properly the
many incidents of abuses, including killings of civilians, torture and
rape, and to bring those responsible to justice.
---
"The government has also been unable to reign in Shiite militia
groups, such as the Mehdi Army, or to rid the Interior Ministry of
death squads.
---
The fact that the government is divided along sectarian lines has
serious repercussions on its effectiveness and bodes ill for the
future."
--
The two reports cite a litany of concerns, including:
---
severe widespread poverty,
---
a lack of food and water, and
----
broken families left to scrounge for whatever they can find to get by.
---
Both reports describe a situation that:
shows no sign of clear improvement.
*****************************************
Amnesty also says conditions for women have worsened with the rise of
fundamentalist religious groups.
---
Many women "have been forced to wear Islamic dress or targeted for
abduction, rape or killing."
---
The group notes a study by the World Health Organization in 2006/2007
that found 21 percent of Iraqi women had experienced physical
violence.
---
Amnesty adds that the "predominantly Kurdish region of northern Iraq
has been more stable with fewer acts of violence, and has seen growing
economic prosperity and foreign investment.
---
However, here too there continue to be serious human rights
violations, including:
---
arrests for peaceful political dissent,
---
torture, ill-treatment,
---
the death penalty and
---
the killing of women in so-called honor crimes."
----
The Red Cross says that despite the struggles in Iraq, the
organization "has been able to help hundreds of thousands of the
neediest Iraqis."
---
The group called for a "renewed effort" to "address the needs of
everyday Iraqis."
---
(LINKS)
All About:
World Health Organization;
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Amnesty International;
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John McCain;
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Dick Cheney
��
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/17/iraq.humanitarian/index.html

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LEG

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:24:44 AM3/21/08
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THIS IS A TERRIFIC PROGRAM WITH A PANEL OF "FORMER" REPUBS & DEMOS WHO
FOR THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD, TALK FRANKLY ABOUT THE REAL
PROBLEMS THE NEXT PRESIDENT WILL FACE.
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YOU CAN SEE THE VIDEO NOW ON YOUR COMPUTER BY CLICKING ON LINK BELOW
OR, IT WILL BE REPLAYED ON C-SPAN-
CLICK ON C-SPAN TV LINK BELOW.

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Subject: A MUST SEE C-SPAN PROG- "PRIORITIES FOR NEXT PRES. ADM
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Subject: 3-20-08-LINK TO VIDEO-
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PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADM.-1 HR.42 MIN
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=559927810
>
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C-SPAN TV SCHUEDULE--NEXT REPLAY IS
AT 1:37 AM (PACIFIC TIME)
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Subject:C-SPAN: Full Schedule
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http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp
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LEG

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:57:56 PM3/21/08
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Subject: A MUST SEE C-SPAN PROG- "PRIORITIES FOR NEXT PRES. ADM
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Subject: 3-20-08-LINK TO VIDEO-
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PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADM.-1 HR.42 MIN

SARA

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Mar 24, 2008, 4:11:25 PM3/24/08
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WE, AMERICANS HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE FASCISTS "WE HAVE NO CHOICE, WE
MUST STAY IN IRAQ...IT IS THE LONG WAR".
---
YES, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY ALL THREE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THAT THEY
WILL "NOT" BE ORDERING THE TROOPS HOME AS SOON AS THEY BECOME
PRESIDENT, I.E.
---
MCCAIN SAYS WE MAY BE THERE FOR ONE HUNDRED YEARS:
--
OBAMA SAID RECENTLY THAT HE WILL HAVE OUR TROOPS OUT "BY THE END OF
HIS FIRST TERM", I.E. 4 YEARS;
--
CLINTON WILL ONLY SAY THAT SHE WILL HAVE THE TROOPS OUT "AS SOON AS IT
IS SAFE TO DO SO".
---
THIS IS CLEARLY "NOT GOOD ENOUGH"!!!
---
WE, AMERICAN VOTERS, HAVE THESE THREE "UNDER OUR CONTROL NOW", IF THEY
WANT TO BE ELECTED.
I.E.
---
THEY ARE ALL HUNGRY FOR THIS TOP JOB, SO WE MUST "NOW" MAKE OUR DEMAND
ON THEM AND GET IT WRITING AND POSTED TO THEIR WEBSITES, THAT:
--
(A) THEY ARE GOING TO USE THEIR TIME FROM THIS POINT ON TO APRIL 15,
2008 TO PREPARE, SIGN, AND PUBLISH ON THEIR WEBSITE AND CALL FOR A
PRESS CONFERENCE IN WHICH THIS AGREEMENT WILL CLEARLY STATE:
--
(1) "IF ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. THEY WILL BE PREPARED TO
IMMEDIATELY START BRINGING OUR TROOPS HOME; AND
--
(2) THEY WILL BEGIN BY LOADING UP ALL OF OUR SHIPS THAT ARE AT SEA
WITH THE FIRST GROUP OF TROOPS TO COME HOME;
--
(3) THEY WILL ORDER ANY SEA-WORTHY SHIPS THAT ARE IN U.S.A. PORTS TO
BE READIED AND SENT TO PICK UP THE NEXT LOAD OF OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ;
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(4) THE U.S. AIRFORCE WILL STAY IN IRAQ AND PROTECT THESE TROOPS BEING
SHIPPED OUT;
--
(5) THE BUSH REGIME HAS STATED CONTINUALLY THAT "IRAQ IS LEGALLY A
SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, WITH A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT", --
THUS THE "NEW PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A." WILL PREPARE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
FOR THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ TELLING HIM TO TAKE CONTROL OF ALL U.S.
MILITARY BASES AND WILL LIST ALL MILITARY ARMS THAT WILL STAY IN IRAQ
FOR THE USE OF THE NEW IRAQI MILITARY AND IRAQI PROVINCIAL POLICE
FORCES.
---
(6) THE U.S. AIRFORCE AND IRAQI PRESIDENT WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO
ALL IRAQIS, ESPECIALLY TO THE IRAQI REFUGEES, THAT:
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THE U.S. MILITARY WILL BEGIN IT'S WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE NEW U.S. PRESIDENT TAKES OFFICE (JAN. 20, 2009) AND THE
PRESIDENT OF IRAQ WILL HAVE A PLAN TO PROVIDE THESE REFUGEES WITH
EMERGENCY HOUSING AND FOOD AS SOON AS THIS WITHDRAWAL IS COMPLETED.
----
(7) ONCE THE GROUND TROOPS HAVE BEEN PUT ON SHIPS AND ON THEIR WAY
HOME; THE U.S. AIRFORCES WILL BEGIN THEIR WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ.
----
(8) THE FINAL PARAGRAPH OF THIS "AMERICAN DEMAND ON THESE CANDIDATES"
WILL SAY:
--
"I _____(NAME OF CANDIDATE), ACCEPT THE MANDATE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
TO WITHDRAW THE U.S. TROOPS AS STATED ABOVE, OR I WILL PREPARE AND
SIGN AN IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION OF MY OFFICE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
--
"IF I REFUSE TO WITHDRAW THE TROOPS, AS STATED, AND REFUSE TO RESIGN
FROM OFFICE, I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN AND WILL BE ARRESTED AND
PROSECUTED UNDER THE U.S. LAWS AS A FELONY FRAUD UPON THE PEOPLE OF
THE UNITED STATES.
--
(9) THE CANDIDATE "MUST" SIGN THIS AGREEMENT BEFORE A NOTARY PUBLIC,
SWEARING AN OATH TO FULLFILL THIS AGREEMENT.
+++++++++++++++++
IT IS "PAST TIME" THAT WE, AMERICANS TAKE CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT
AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, I.E. RIGHT FROM THE GIT GO.
--
I SUGGEST THAT WE CONTACT THE ACLU TO DRAW UP THIS LEGAL AGREEMENT FOR
ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT, SO AS TO CLOSE ANY LOOP-HOLES
THAT THEY MIGHT USE TO AVOID PROSECUTION.
---
NOW....WE CAN ALL START RIGHT NOW AND E-MAIL THIS POST TO ALL THREE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE"S WEBSITES AND GIVE THEM A "HEADS UP" AND TELL
THEM THAT IF WE DON'T SEE THIS POST ON THEIR WEBSITE STATING THAT THEY
AGREE WITH THIS "AMERICAN CITIZEN'S MANDATE BY APRIL 15,
2008" (APPROPRIATELY, ON INCOME TAX DAY) THEN WE, AMERICANS WILL
ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO VOTE FOR THEM AS "OUR PRESIDENT".
---
SINCE THE POLLS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWED THAT 70% OF AMERICANS WANT
OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ, THIS IS THE TIME TO SEE IF AMERICANS "HAVE THE
WILL TO STAND UP AND MAKE THE SMALL EFFORT IT WILL TAKE TO DO IT".
--
IF AMERICANS DO NOTHING, YOU CAN COUNT ON 8 MORE YEARS OF TOTAL
DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATION VIA MORE DEATHS OF OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS;
ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY; AND OUR INABILITY TO HAVE JOBS.


LEG

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Mar 25, 2008, 5:13:25 PM3/25/08
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AMERICANS WHO ARE REGISTERED AS DEMOCRATS SHOULD STANDUP AGAINST THESE
"PARTY FASCISTS" AND TEAR UP THEIR DEMO PARTY REGISTRATION CARDS AND
SEND THEM TO HOWARD DEAN AND TELL THEM...WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT
THIS...THEN REGISTER AS AN "INDEPENDANT".
--
THE REPUBS SHOULD DO THE SAME THING GIVEN ALL OF THE ILLEGAL ACTS THE
BUSH REGIME "DID IN THEIR NAME".
--
IT IS TIME THAT THESE "TWO POLITICAL PARTIES" ARE TOLD..."WE ARE THE
ONES WHO SELECT OUR PRESIDENT...NOT YOU!!
---
THEN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD START UP THEIR OWN "AMERICAN
INDEPENDANT PARTY" WHERE "EVERYONE CAN VOTE".
--
WE SHOULD ALSO GET THE "ELECTORAL COLLEGE" ELIMINATED, SO WE CAN TRULY
HAVE DEMOCRACY WITH "ONE PERSON...ONE VOTE".
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IF AMERICANS "WANT THEIR GOVERNMENT BACK...NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW
"YOU MEAN IT"...START BY TEARING UP "YOUR PARTY CARD" AND SEND IT TO
THEM. THEN UNITE AND START YOUR "OWN DEMOCRACY".
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Subject:3-24-08-
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Dems Consider Mini-Convention to Pick Nominee
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032408R.shtml
>
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LEG

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Mar 25, 2008, 7:35:58 PM3/25/08
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U.S.MILITARY BASES AND WILL LIST ALL MILITARY ARMS THAT WILL STAY IN

+++++++
HERE ARE THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESSES; WEBSITES AND THE "VOTE SMART" WEBSITE
THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THEY GOT THEIR MONEY AND HOW THEY VOTED ON BILLS.
---
NOW...IT'S ALL UP TO YOU. WILL YOU TAKE 5 MINUTES AND E-MAIL THEM
"TELLING THEM "YOU" ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE "NOW", IF THEY WANT
YOUR VOTE.
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Subject: PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY CANDIDATES-SITES & E-MAIL
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON:
**********************
Subject:CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-E-MAIL HillaryClinton.com - Contact Us
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
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Subject: D.C. E-MAIL SITE-
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton:
Contact Senator Clinton
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/
PROJECT VOTE SMART-ALL DATA ON HER:
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Subject: Project Vote Smart -WEBSITE
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=55463
---
Subject: D.C. WEBSITE-
Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York http://clinton.senate.gov/
---
Subject: CAMPAIGN WEBSITE
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/splash/
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SEN. BARACK OBAMA:
***************************
Subject: CAMPAIGN SITE-E-MAIL
SEN. Barack Obama- Contact Us
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2
---
Subject: D.C. E-MAIL-
SEN. Barack Obama
http://obama.senate.gov/contact/
---
Subject:Project Vote Smart -WEBSITE


Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. -

http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=9490
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Subject:CAMPAIGN-WEBSITE-
Welcome to Obama for America
http://www.barackobama.com/
---
Subject: D.C.WEBSITE:
SEN. Barack Obama -
http://obama.senate.gov/
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN:
************************
CAMPAIGN-E-MAIL SITE
Subject:John McCain 2008- http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/
----
D.C.-E-MAIL SITE
Subject:D.C. E-MAIL CONTACT-"IN BOTTOM BOX"-----JOHN MCCAIN
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/
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Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE


Senator John Sidney McCain III

http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53270
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Subject: CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-
John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President http://www.johnmccain.com/
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Subject: D.C.HOME SITE-
U.S. Senator John McCain
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/
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RALPH NADER
*****************
Subject: CAMPAIGN E-MAIL SITE-
Ralph Nader for President in 2008
http://www.votenader.org/
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Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE
Ralph Nader
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=2508
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REP. RON PAUL
******************
Subject: CAMPAIGN E-MAIL
RON PAUL
vic...@ronpaulforcongress.com
----
Subject: D.C.-E-MAIL
Congressman Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/contact.shtml
---
Subject: Project Vote Smart - WEBSITE
Rep. Ronald Ernest 'Ron' Paul -
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=296
----
Subject:CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-
Re- Elect Ron Paul - 2008
http://ronpaulforcongress.com/
----
Subject: D.C. WEBSITE
Congressman Ron Paul-
http://www.house.gov/paul/
----

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TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR "NEW" GOVERNMENT NOW!
---
THE ONE THING ALL POLITICIANS WANT, WHICH THEY CAN'T BUY, IS OUR
VOTES.
---
TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR FED. GOVT. NOW, WHILE YOU CAN BY MAKING A DEMAND
ON THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES, ONE OF WHICH WILL BE YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT, WHO "WILL HAVE
CONTROL OF ALL THE FEDERAL AGENCIES THATAFFECT ALL OF OUR LIVES:
HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES;
MEDICARE; SOCIAL SECURITY, JUSTICE DEPT., CIA, FBI, EPA, ETC.
---
HERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT PROVES THE SO-CALLED "DEMOCRATIC PARTY" IS
THINKING ABOUT "THEM PICKING" THE ONE DEMOCRAT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT
AND "NOT ALLOWING THE VOTERS" TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THIS IS WHAT
DICTATORS DO, NOT DEMOCRACIES.
---
Subject: 3-24-08-Dems Consider Mini-Convention to Pick Nominee
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032408R.shtml
---
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. AS WE ALL TO WELL, "PRIORITIES ARE POWER; HUGE
CORPORATIONS AND PROTECTING THE RICH". THEY HATE WHAT "THEY CALL
LIBERAL SOCIALIST PROGRAMS, I.E. "HUMAN WELFARE" BUT ARE HELL-BENT ON
ROBBING OUR TREASURY FOR "CORPORATE WELFARE".
----
NEITHER PARTY LISTENS TO US, "WE THE PEOPLE". IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD
HAVE IMPEACHED THE BUSH REGIME YEARS AGO.
--
THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF OUR DEVALUED DOLLAR; LOSS OF TREASURY; AND
GLOBAL HATRED, IS THE ILLEGAL IRAQ SO-CALLED "WAR". WE MUST GET OUT OF
IRAQ IF WE WANT TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR PEOPLE.
----
IT " IS CLEAR THIS WAS AN ILLEGAL "ACT OF AGGRESSION" AGAINST A NATION
THAT WAS OF "NO THREAT TO THE U.S.A." AND MANY IN THE BUSH REGIME HAVE
ADMITTED IT, BUT THE MEDIA DID NOT POUND IT IN THE HEADS OF AMERICANS,
LIKE THEY DID WITH THE BUSH REGIME'S WMD LIES.
----
HERE ARE BUT A FEW ARTICLES THAT PROVED THE BUSH REGIME "KNEW" SADDAM
WAS "NO THREAT", THUS NO LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS ILLEGAL
MURDEROUS ACT.
---
(1) CONDI RICE & COLIN POWELL:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/092403B.shtml >
---
(2) CIA DIRECTOR, TENET:
2-05-04-DIR. CIA-George Tenet on Iraq and WMD-SADDAM NO THREAT-NOTE
ALL OF THE OBVIOUS FRAUD & VAGUE EVIDENCE STATEMENTS.
http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/dci020504.html
---
(3) WOLFOWITZ":
5-29-03-WOLFOWITZ-IRAQ WMD emphasis was 'bureaucratic'
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2945750.stm
---
IT IS "OUR" TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF OUR GOVT.--HERE IS HOW WE DO IT!--
HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED!
---
WE, AMERICANS HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE FASCISTS IN OUR GOVT.:
---
"WE HAVE NO CHOICE, WE MUST STAY IN IRAQ...IT WILL BE THE LONG WAR".

---
YES, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY ALL THREE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THAT THEY
WILL "NOT" BE ORDERING THE TROOPS HOME AS SOON AS THEY BECOME
PRESIDENT, I.E.
---
MCCAIN SAYS WE MAY BE THERE FOR ONE HUNDRED YEARS:
--
OBAMA SAID RECENTLY THAT HE WILL HAVE OUR TROOPS OUT "BY THE END OF
HIS FIRST TERM", I.E. 4 YEARS;
--
CLINTON WILL ONLY SAY THAT SHE WILL HAVE THE TROOPS OUT "AS SOON AS IT
IS SAFE TO DO SO".
---
THIS IS CLEARLY "NOT GOOD ENOUGH"!!!
---
WE, AMERICAN VOTERS, HAVE THESE THREE "UNDER OUR CONTROL NOW", IF THEY
WANT TO BE ELECTED. I.E.
---
THEY ARE ALL HUNGRY FOR THIS TOP JOB, SO WE MUST "NOW" MAKE OUR DEMAND
ON THEM AND GET IT IN WRITING AND POSTED TO THEIR WEBSITES, THAT:
--
(A) THEY MUST USE THEIR TIME FROM THIS POINT ON TO APRIL 15, 2008 TO
PREPARE, SIGN, AND PUBLISH THE BELOW STATEMENTS ON THEIR WEBSITES AND

CALL FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE IN WHICH THIS AGREEMENT WILL CLEARLY
STATE:
--
(1) "IF ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. I WILL BE PREPARED TO

IMMEDIATELY START BRINGING OUR TROOPS HOME; AND
--
(2) I WILL BEGIN BY LOADING UP ALL OF OUR SHIPS THAT ARE AT SEA WITH

THE FIRST GROUP OF TROOPS TO COME HOME;
--
(3) I WILL ORDER ANY SEA-WORTHY SHIPS THAT ARE IN U.S.A. PORTS TO BE

READIED AND SENT TO PICK UP THE NEXT LOAD OF OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ;
---
(4) THE U.S. AIRFORCE WILL STAY IN IRAQ AND PROTECT THESE TROOPS BEING
SHIPPED OUT;
--
THE BUSH REGIME HAS STATED CONTINUALLY THAT "IRAQ IS A LEGAL SOVEREIGN

COUNTRY, WITH A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT",
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(5) THUS THE "NEW PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A." WILL PREPARE AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER FOR THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ TELLING HIM HE CAN TAKE CONTROL OF ALL
U.S.MILITARY BASES AND ALL THE MILITARY ARMS THAT WILL BE LISTED TO

STAY IN IRAQ FOR THE USE OF THE NEW IRAQI MILITARY AND IRAQI
PROVINCIAL POLICE FORCES TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
---

THE U.S. AIRFORCE AND IRAQI PRESIDENT WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL
IRAQIS, ESPECIALLY TO THE IRAQI REFUGEES, THAT:
---
THE U.S. MILITARY WILL BEGIN IT'S WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE NEW U.S. PRESIDENT TAKES OFFICE (JAN. 20, 2009) AND THE
PRIME MINISTER OF IRAQ WILL HAVE A PLAN TO PROVIDE THESE REFUGEES WITH

EMERGENCY HOUSING AND FOOD AS SOON AS THIS WITHDRAWAL IS COMPLETED.
��----
ONCE THE GROUND TROOPS HAVE BEEN PUT ON SHIPS AND ON THEIR WAY HOME;
THE U.S. AIRFORCES WILL BEGIN THEIR WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ.
----
(6) THE FINAL PARAGRAPH OF THIS "AMERICAN CITIZEN DEMAND" ON THESE

CANDIDATES" WILL SAY:
--
"I _____(NAME OF CANDIDATE), ACCEPT THE MANDATE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
TO WITHDRAW THE U.S. TROOPS AS STATED ABOVE, OR I WILL PREPARE AND
SIGN AN IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION OF MY OFFICE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
--
"IF I REFUSE TO WITHDRAW THE TROOPS, AS STATED, AND REFUSE TO RESIGN
FROM OFFICE, I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN AND WILL BE ARRESTED AND
PROSECUTED UNDER THE U.S. LAWS AS A FELONY FRAUD UPON THE PEOPLE OF
THE UNITED STATES.
--
THE CANDIDATE "MUST" SIGN THIS AGREEMENT BEFORE A NOTARY PUBLIC,
SWEARING AN OATH TO FULLFILL THIS AGREEMENT.
+++++++++++++++++
IT IS "PAST TIME" THAT WE, AMERICANS TAKE CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT
AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, I.E. RIGHT FROM THE GIT GO.
-----

NOW....WE CAN ALL START RIGHT NOW AND E-MAIL THIS POST TO ALL THREE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE"S WEBSITES AND TELL THEM THAT IF WE DON'T SEE

THIS POST ON THEIR WEBSITE STATING THAT THEY AGREE WITH THIS "AMERICAN
CITIZEN'S MANDATE BY APRIL 15, 2008"
(APPROPRIATE DAY, ON INCOME TAX DAY) --- THEN WE, AMERICANS WILL

ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO VOTE FOR THEM AS "OUR PRESIDENT".
---
SINCE THE POLLS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWED THAT 70% OF AMERICANS WANT
OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ, THIS IS THE TIME TO SEE IF AMERICANS "HAVE THE
WILL TO STAND UP AND MAKE THIS SMALL EFFORT TO DO IT".

--
IF AMERICANS DO NOTHING, YOU CAN COUNT ON 8 MORE YEARS OF TOTAL
DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATION VIA MORE DEATHS OF OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS;
ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY; AND OUR INABILITY TO HAVE JOBS AND GUARANTEED
MEDICAL TREATMENT.

+++++++
HERE ARE THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESSES; WEBSITES AND THE "VOTE SMART" WEBSITE
THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THEY GOT THEIR MONEY AND HOW THEY VOTED ON BILLS.
---
NOW...IT'S ALL UP TO YOU. WILL YOU TAKE 5 MINUTES AND E-MAIL THEM
"TELLING THEM "YOU" ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE "NOW", IF THEY WANT
YOUR VOTE. PLEASE USE YOUR "REAL NAME" SO THEY KNOW "YOU ARE REAL AND
THIS IS NO JOKE."

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Subject: PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY CANDIDATES-SITES & E-MAIL
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON:
**********************
Subject:CAMPAIGN WEBSITE-E-MAIL
�HillaryClinton.com - Contact Us
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/
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Subject: D.C. E-MAIL SITE-
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton:
Contact Senator Clinton
http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/
victory(at)ronpaulforcongress.com

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Subject: TAKE CONTROL OF "YOUR" GOVT NOW!
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UPDATE ON "THE BUSH REGIME'S WAR & IT'S SUCCESS", AS BUSH STATED IT
WAS OVER THE PAST 2 DAYS.
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WHAT THE BUSH REGIME & CONGRESS WOULDN'T TELL YOU-"IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL"
AND BUSH THOUGHT HE HAD "A DEAL" BUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE REFUSED!
----
3-19-08-Oil groups circle the prize of Iraq's vast reserves
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14983&printsafe=1
----
3-27-08-Pres. Bush Visits Dayton, Ohio, Discusses Global War on Terror-
SUCCESS
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/print/20080327-2.html
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3-28-08-President Bush with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of Australia
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/print/20080328-3.html
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3-29-08-Bush Has Little Influence,
Few Options in Iraq's Volatile South
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032803622_pf.html
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THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING STOPPING THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME IN THEIR LIES
AND PROPAGANDA TO JUSTIFY THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR.
--
THIS IDIOTIC PLAN OF FINALLY BRINGING SOMEONE TO TRIAL AFTER YEARS OF
IMPRISONMENT WITH NO CHARGES, IS JUST MORE PROOF OF HOW DELUSIONAL THE
BUSH FASCISTS THINK, I.E. THAT AMERICANS ARE JUST TO STUPID TO SEE
WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
--
THE BENEFICIARY OF THIS "TOKEN SO-CALLED TERRORIST JUSTICE, (THE
DRIVER OF SADDAM'S CAR) IS MCCAIN, WHO WANTS TO BE THE "NEXT WAR
PRESIDENT".
--
IF THIS WASN'T SO LUDICROUS, IT WOULD BE FUNNY. BUT, IT IS A PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF "WHY BUSH ORDERED 4,000 AMERICANS TO DIE "FOR HIS WAR".
--
THESE PSYCHOPATHS SHOULD BE SITTING IN A PRISON FOR THE CRIMINALLY
INSANE, BUT THEY AREN'T, THANKS TO THE REPUBS & DEMOS WHO HAVE ALSO
PROVED TO BE IN COLLUSION WITH THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME, VIA THE
"TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS" THEY HAVE VOTED TO GIVE TO THE HUGE CORPS, LIKE
HALLIBURTON, SO THEY COULD GET MORE CAMPAIGN FUNDS.
--
NOTE: THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ARE "UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS
YEAR", AND ABOUT 1/3 OF THE SENATE. THEY HAVE INTENTIONALLY REFUSED TO
IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY AND THIS YEAR "AMERICANS CAN "REFUSE TO RE-ELECT
ALL OF THE HOUSE AND 1/3 OF THE SENATE, "TO PROVE THAT "YOU HAVE THE
POWER AND WILL USE IT TO SEND THE MESSAGE, "WE WILL STOP YOU".
----
Subject:3-28-08-
---
Gitmo Trials Pegged to '08 Campaign
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032908Z.shtml
>
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Subject: THE LEGACY OF:
BUSH REGIME; CONGRESS; AND
U.S. CITIZENS
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BUSH REGIME'S LEGACY-
GREED & POWER-100%-
---
CONGRESS (REPUB & DEM):
--
INCOMPETENT OR PART OF BUSH REGIME 100%
---
CITIZENS-CONCERN & EFFORT-95%
---
DESTRUCTION OF U.S.- POVERTY DUE TO:
**********************************************
(1) CONGRESS'S (BOTH REPUB & DEM) INTENTIONAL REFUSAL TO IMPEACH THE
FASCIST BUSH REGIME'S CON-ARTISTS WHO BROUGHT THIS NATION TO IT'S
KNEES;
--
Subject:Fascism Anyone?
The 14 characteristics of Fascism
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/14_Characteristics_Fascism.html
---
Subject:2-17-08-AM. FASCISM-
BY Dr. Wilmer J. Leon III
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021708D.shtml
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(2) NO JOBS;
---
(3) ALLOWING U.S. CORPS TO MOVE OUT OF COUNTRY & STILL GET TAX CUTS;
---
(4) NO REGULATIONS; OVERSITE; OR ACCOUNTABILITY--MASSIVE FRAUD-
CAUSING LOSS OF HOMES & JOBS;
---
(5) ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR-"FOR OIL"-
---
(6) ROBBING OF U.S. TREASURY---
$3 TRILLION MUCH OF WHICH WAS BLATANTLY STOLEN DUE TO "NO
ACCOUNTABILITY";
--
(7) LOANS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES-
CAUSED DEVALUED DOLLAR;
---
(8) ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF MIDDLE EAST CAUSED "INCREASE IN OIL PRICES"
& TOTAL DISTRUST OF U.S.A.;
---
(9) TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH- NOTHING USED TO FINANCE WAR OR THIS NATION;
---
(10) DEVALUED U.S. DOLLAR-CAUSED COST OF EVERYTHING TO RISE;
--
Subject: 3-31-08-MASSIVE POVERTY-As Jobs Vanish, Food Stamp Use Is at
Record Pace
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/033108L.shtml
---
Subject: 3-13-08-MY POST RE OPEC RAISED PRICE TO $110 A BBL-
DUE TO GLOBAL UNREST
*******************************
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/c8aa5f966ec9f805?dmode=print
-----
Subject:3-31-08-REPUB'S DEMAND FOR NO REGULATIONS-CAUSED RECESSION-
DEVALUED DOLLAR
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/033108N.shtml
---
Subject: 3-30-08--Paulson's Regulation Plan Won't Fix Current Economic
Crisis
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/033108K.shtml
---
Subject:3-26-08-In Basra, Elections, Oil Drive Conflict
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032608R.shtml
---
Subject: 3-19-08-IRAQ-Oil groups circle the prize of Iraq's vast
reserves
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14983
---
WHAT "REAL AMERICANS" CAN DO TO
**********************************************
STOP THESE FASCISTS!
******************************
---
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/33fc6515e1d73407?dmode=print
---
THE ENEMY LIES WITHIN!


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THE MOST GLARING TRUTH IS:
--
(1) AMERICANS ARE ON THE BRINK OF FOREVER LOSING THEIR NATION TO THE
FASCISTS WHO NOW CONTROL THEIR GOVERNMENT.
--
(2) GOOD DECISION-MAKING IS THE NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT SKILL ALL
PRESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE, WHICH IS BASED UPON "KNOWING THE TRUTH AND
FACTS, BEFORE MAKING ANY DECISION".
---
THIS REQUIRES THE PERSON TO TRULY CARE ABOUT THIS NATION AND
PEOPLE..AND "NOT HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA".
---
THIS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MUST HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE TO "ASK
QUESTIONS AND DEMAND FACTUAL "EVIDENCE" TO SUPPORT THE EVIDENCE FOR
THE DECISIONS THIS PRESIDENT WOULD MAKE;
--
(2) WE ALREADY "KNOW" THAT BOTH HILLARY CLINTON AND JOHN MCCAIN "VOTED
FOR THE RESOLUTION TO ATTACK IRAQ", WHILE MANY OTHERS DID NOT..BASED
ON THE FACT..."THAT IT WOULD VIOLATE THE U.N. CHARTER, WHICH IS A
TREATY THIS NATION STARTED AND IS IN OUR CONSTITUTION AS STATING
"TREATIES MUST BE UPHELD AS THE "SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND".
--
BOTH HILLARY CLINTON AND JOHN MCCAIN, SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THESE
WOULD BE VIOLATED IF THE U.S. ATTACKED IRAQ, ESPECIALLY CLINTON, WHO
IS ALSO AN ATTORNEY. BUT SO SHOULD MCCLAIN, WHO BOASTS OF BEING "IN
THE MILITARY AS AN OFFICER", AS HIS MAIN QUALIFICATION.
--
OBAMA WAS NOT IN CONGRESS WHEN THIS DECISION WAS DEMANDED, YET HE IS
"ON RECORD"-AS BEING AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED;
THAT IS GOOD.
--
THERE IS "NO GREATER DECISION" THEN DECIDING TO ATTACK ANOTHER NATION,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT NATION "WAS NO THREAT TO THE U.S.A", WHICH IRAQ
WAS PROVEN AS NOT BEING!
--
THE DECISION OF BOTH CLINTON AND MCCAIN TO VOTE FOR THIS "WAR
RESOLUTION" SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFY THEM.
---
(3) THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT DECISION THAT ALL CONGRESS PEOPLE SHOULD
HAVE MADE WAS:
--
TO DEMAND IMPEACHMENT OF ANY PRESIDENT WHO BLATANTLY VIOLATES THE U.S.
CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAWS AND WHO ACTS AS IF "HE IS ABOVE ALL
LAWS"!
--
ALL THREE OF THE MOST WELL-KNOWN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE
INTENTIONALLY REFUSED TO IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY WHICH HAS SENT THE
MESSAGE TO THEM...
---
CONTINUE YOUR FASCIST AND CORRUPT ACTIONS, WE WON'T STOP YOU. THIS
MESSAGE WAS CLEARLY SEEN BY "THE REST OF THE WORLD" AS ALSO BEING THAT
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPORT THESE FACSISTS ACTS.
--
THIS INTENTIONAL REFUSAL OF THESE 3 CANDIDATES PROVES THAT NONE OF
THEM HAVE THE MORAL COURAGE OR BACKBONE TO GO AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF
THEIR POLITICAL PARTIES TO "TAKE THIS ACTION AND STOP THESE FASCISTS
FROM DESTROYING OUR NATION".
--
FOR THAT REASON, WE, AMERICANS "CANNOT TRUST ANY OF THESE 3 CANDIDATES
WHO WANT TO BE OUR PRESIDENT, TO JUST CONTINUE THESE BLATANT FASCIST
ACTS, IF THEY BECOME PRESIDENT.
--
(4) WE, AMERICANS "MUST NOW HAVE THE COURAGE OF OUR OWN "INDEPENDENT
THINKING" AND "ACTIONS" AND WORK TO GET A PRESIDENT WHO "WE CAN TRUST".
---
IT IS "NOT TO LATE YET" IF WE START WORKING NOW.
---
IT IS "NOW TIME TO VOTE FOR RALPH NADER
WHO WE ALL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT NOW AND WHO IS THE "ONLY PERSON" WHO WE
CAN TRUST, BECAUSE HE HAS DECADES OF WORK AND PUBLIC RECORD THAT TELLS
US "WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE WILL DO IF ELECTED PRESIDENT. (SEE HIS
WEBSITES BELOW)
---
IT IS NOW UP TO "WE, AMERICANS, WHO CAN DECIDE WHO IS ELECTED AND IF
WE VOTE FOR ANY OF THE ABOVE 3, YOU SHOULD KNOW "THEY HAVE ALREADY
SHOWN US "WHO THEY ARE BY THEIR ACTIONS AND STATEMENTS", AND THEY
SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED AS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT, UNLESS WE ACT LIKE THE
COWARDS THAT THE 3 CANDIDATES AND TWO POLITICAL PARTIES ARE.
--

Subject: THE LEGACY OF: BUSH REGIME; CONGRESS; AND U.S. CITIZENS
---
BUSH REGIME'S LEGACY-
GREED & POWER-100%-
---
CONGRESS (REPUB & DEM):
INCOMPETENT OR PART OF BUSH REGIME 100%
---
CITIZENS-CONCERN & EFFORT-5%
Subject:3-31-08-BUSH TRYING TO SALVAGE FOREIGN POLICY LEGACY
http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=23882904
---
Subject:3-27-08-Russian intelligence sees U.S. military buildup on
Iran border
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070327/62697703.html

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+++++++++
MOST NATIONS KEEP ALL OF THE OIL/GAS THAT IS FOUND, SO THE HUGE OIL
CORPS WON'T ROB THE PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE DOING NOW; NOT TO MENTION THE
FACT CONGRESS KEEPS TELLING US THAT THE OIL CORPS HAVEN'T BUILT ANY
REFINERIES SINCE THE EARLY 70'S.
---
THE ANSWER IS EASY..THESE POLITICIANS ARE GREEDY AND WANT THEIR KICK
BACKS & CAMPAIGN MONEY INSTEAD OF ENSURING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE "WILL
HAVE CONTROL OF OUR OWN RESOURCES".
---
INTERESTING ISN'T IT..NOT ONE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT WILL EVEN TALK
ABOUT THIS, OR THE FACT THAT THE RICH OIL STATE OF ALASKA HAS MILLIONS
OF ACRES OF "UNEXPLORED LAND WHERE THE EXISTING OIL IS NOW BEING
PUMPED" (I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SENSITIVE ANWR).
--

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From: my1...@webtv.net(JUST�ICE) Date: Mon, Apr 14, 2008, 12:30pm To:
roy...@webtv.net Subject: Fwd: 4-09-08-BP & CONOCO/PHILLIPS TO BUILD
GAS PIPELINE TO CANADA & U.S.
From: �� my1...@webtv.net (JUST ICE) Date: �� Wed, Apr 9, 2008, 5:22pm
To: �� my1...@webtv.net, george_...@yahoo.com Subject: �� 4-09-08-
BP & CONOCO/PHILLIPS TO BUILD GAS PIPELINE TO CANADA & U.S.
Subject:4-09-08-BP & ConocoPhillips to build gas pipeline to U.S. and
Canada
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/09/business/pipeline.php
----
BP and ConocoPhillips to build gas pipeline to United States and
Canada
----
By Jad Mouawad and Clifford Krauss
Published: April 9, 2008
---
Two of the biggest oil companies in the world, BP and ConocoPhillips,
have joined forces to try to break a longstanding deadlock over the
vast reserves of natural gas in Alaska.
---
The firms said they would spend billions to build a pipeline from the
North Slope to feed markets in the United States and Canada.
---
The proposal Tuesday won praise from Alaska's governor, Sarah Palin.
"It's a good day," she said to reporters.
---
The announcement comes at a time when the consumption of natural gas
in the United States is increasing and conventional production is
declining. Natural gas is cleaner than other power sources, like coal,
and analysts say it is becoming increasingly critical to the nation's
energy needs.
-----
BP and Conoco will initially spend $600 million in the next three
years to drum up support for the project, seek state and federal
approval, and secure gas supplies for the pipeline.
---
BP and Conoco said the project would be the largest-ever private-
sector construction project in North America.
----
The project, which would include a $5 billion gas-processing facility
on the North Slope, would cost about $30 billion and take at least 10
years to complete.
----
At a time when energy prices and construction costs are soaring, the
endeavor would dwarf the 800-mile, or 1,290 kilometer, trans-Alaska
oil pipeline, a momentous project completed in 1977 that brought jobs
and revenue to Alaska.
----
As oil production from the Prudhoe Bay field declines, Alaskans are
hoping that natural gas will take over from oil.
---
An Alaska gas pipeline has long been sought as a critical component of
the nation's energy security.
---
The planned pipeline would have a daily capacity of 4 billion cubic
feet, or 113 million cubic meters, of natural gas, or almost 7 percent
of current U.S. consumption.
----
But the companies will have to overcome some huge hurdles, said
Christopher Ruppel, an energy analyst at Execution, a brokerage and
research firm.
---
"We've had a long record of Alaska pipeline projects coming out of
Alaska and Canada, and they have consistently been delayed because of
political opposition and rising costs," he said.
---
"The United States and Canada desperately need the gas. But the
question is, is it doable?"
---
The companies will need to secure more than 1,000 permits from local,
state and federal authorities in the United States and Canada, a
process that will probably take years.
---
They need to negotiate with native tribes along the pipeline's route
to secure the right of passage. If the oil pipeline is any guide, the
gas line will also require vast engineering feats.
---
But with higher prices, and a growing appetite for natural gas, the
economics of such a large project are starting to make sense for oil
companies.
---
The companies said the initial plan is to build a 2,000-mile pipeline
from the North Slope to the Canadian province of Alberta; that would
add to the total North American gas supply, freeing some Canadian gas
for export to the United States.
---
Eventually, the pipeline may be extended another 1,500 miles, to
Chicago.
"This will be a massive undertaking," said Doug Suttles, the president
of BP Alaska. "It is going to take the big team to get this going."
---
The plan to build a natural gas pipeline "to export" the vast gas
resources in the state
**********************************************
has been tangled in Alaskan politics for years.
---
Today, gas reserves in Alaska are reinjected into oil fields or left
dormant because of a lack of export facilities to bring them to
consumers.
---
When Palin took office in late 2006, she interrupted pipeline
negotiations that her predecessor, Frank Murkowski, had been pursuing
with the North Slope oil operators BP, Conoco and ExxonMobil.
---
She started from scratch after criticizing the previous talks as not
being competitive enough, and sought to bring in new operators to
secure better terms for Alaska.
---
Her administration is evaluating a proposal made by a Canadian
pipeline operator, TransCanada.
---
The oil companies protested the delays and said the governor's
procedure was unrealistic.
---
Eschewing $500 million in potential subsidies from the state, BP and
ConocoPhillips declared Tuesday that the economics of natural gas have
reached the point that they can finance the pipeline on their own.
---
James Bowles, the president of Conoco Alaska, said that although the
companies would seek no state subsidies, they would try to meet
requirements outlined by Alaskan authorities, like offering local
delivery points on the pipeline to meet the natural gas requirements
of the state.
---
"This project is moving forward on its own," he said.
---
Palin welcomed the proposal, while stopping short of formally
endorsing it. She told reporters she would meet with executives from
the companies to find out more about the joint project. Still, she
added, "It sounds great for the state of Alaska."
---
The plan came as a surprise to Exxon, which said it was invited to
participate only a few days ago. The company will "evaluate all
options," according to Margaret Ross, an Exxon spokeswoman.
---
BP and Conoco said they would welcome Exxon's participation.
---
Many analysts have voiced concerns that natural gas prices would keep
rising as domestic demand grows and exports from Canada fall because
of increased consumption there.
---
Without a natural gas pipeline, the United States will increasingly
depend on imports of natural gas in liquefied form, a source that is
costly and potentially vulnerable to political instability in the
Middle East, Africa and Latin America.
---
Greater demand is already pushing prices higher, and adding to
pressure to open deeper waters off the country's coast for
exploration.
---
Amy Myers Jaffe, an energy analyst at Rice University, said a gas
pipeline was badly needed, in addition to the liquefied natural gas
projects under consideration. "In the long-term, it's not going to
mean we are not going to need LNG, but we would need a lot more LNG if
Alaska does not happen," she said.
---
Natural gas consumption rose by 6.2 percent in 2007, to 23 trillion
cubic feet, from 21.7 trillion cubic feet in 2006, according to the
Energy Information Administration.
---
Natural gas prices, which averaged $2 a thousand cubic feet in the
1990s, have soared in the last decade. They recently traded at $9.74 a
thousand cubic feet on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
----
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LEG

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LISTEN UP LADIES!
----------------
IT'S TIME FOR AMERICAN WOMEN TO STOP BEING MORONS. NO, I AM NOT SOME
CHAUVINISTIC MALE.
--
I AM A WOMAN..A SECURE, INDEPENDENT AND INTELLIGENT ONE, WHO HAS GOOD
COMMON SENSE AND SICK TO DEATH OF THE LYING, MANIPULATING, WAR
MONGERING FASCISTS WHO ARE RUNNING OUR GOVERNMENT.
>
IF ANY OF YOU "HILLARY SUPPORTERS" DID ONE HOUR OF RESEARCH ON HER OR
WATCHED HER RANTS AT THE DEBATES, YOU WOULD KNOW:
---
(1) SHE IS A LAWYER AND AS SUCH, SHE KNEW THAT THE RESOLUTION SHE
SIGNED ALLOWING BUSH TO INVADE IRAQ, "WAS BLATANTLY ILLEGAL" AND
VIOLATED OUR U.N. TREATY WITH ALL OTHER NATIONS, BY BOMBING AND
KILLING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRAQI CITIZENS, INCLUDING
WOMEN AND THEIR BABIES.
--
HILLARY ALSO KNEW THAT OUR CONSTITUTION CALLS THESE TREATIES THE
"SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND" AND SHE, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER CONGRESS
PEOPLE, BLATANTLY VIOLATED OUR OWN CONSTITUTION WHEN WE BOMBED,
INVADED AND OCCUPIED IRAQ.
---
(2) NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT HER OBVIOUS LOW-SELF-ESTEEM, DELUSIONS, AND
INABILITY TO JUST THINK CLEARLY, ALL OF WHICH MAKES HER AS DANGEROUS
AS BUSH.
---
ANY WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN MARRIED TO A MAN, FOR YEARS, WHO HAS A
CONTINUED HISTORY OF SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH OTHER WOMEN, SHOULD BE
SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT "HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED", I.E. IF HE LIES
ABOUT THIS WOMANIZING, HE WILL LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE TOO.
--
YET THERE WAS HILLARY AT ONE OF HER "CAMPAIGN STOPS" WHERE SHE STATED:
"I ALWAYS KNEW THAT HE LOVED ME (EVEN THO HE CONTINUED HIS SEXUAL
RELATIONSHIPS).
--
THIS IS DELUSIONAL THINKING AND ANY PSYCHOLOGIST WILL TELL YOU SO. DO
A GOOGLE SEARCH ON ABUSED WOMEN.
---
THIS WOMAN, HILLARY, AND THE MILLIONS OF OTHER WOMEN WHO STAY WITH
THESE LOATHSOME LIARS, OBVIOUSLY CANNOT FACE REALITY, MUCH LESS TAKE
CONTROL OF THEIR OWN LIVES..SO WHY ARE YOU AMERICAN WOMEN SUPPORTING
THIS PATHETIC DESPERATE HOUSEWIFE WHO YOU WANT TO BE IN CHARGE OF
NUKES?
---
(3) HILLARY'S BLATANT LIES, I.E.
--
(A) THAT SHE IS A GUN-TOTING GAME HUNTER, THEN HAS TO ADMIT THAT SHE
LIED AND ONLY SHOT A RIFLE ONCE WHEN SHE WAS A KID AND DIDN'T LIKE IT
AND NEVER DID IT AGAIN; OR
--
(B) SHE GOT OFF THE AIRPLANE IN BOSNIA WHICH WAS UNDER GOING SNIPER
FIRE. NOW THAT WAS JUST PLAIN STUPID AND HILLARY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
THAT SOME REPORTER WOULD FIND THE VIDEO TAPE THAT SHOWED HER AND HER
DAUGHTER WITH OTHER WOMEN, WALKING SECURELY AROUND, "WITH NOT ONE
BULLET FLYING AROUND HER".
--
SO NOT ONLY DID SHE AGAIN PROVE SHE WAS A PATHETIC LIAR, SHE WAS SO
STUPID TO THINK THAT SHE WOULDN'T BE FOUND OUT.
--
(4) IF YOU CAN'T STAND BUSH'S SMIRKS AND ARROGANT SWAGGERING, THEN HOW
CAN YOU POSSIBLY STAND HILLARY'S CONSTANT "FINGER POKING"; OR HER
BOBBLE-HEAD (UP & DOWN) AGREEING WITH HER OWN WORDS SHOW?
--
HILLARY HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN SO-CALLED "GROOMED" OR TRAINED FOR THESE
"SHOWS" SO SHE WOULD TALK MORE LIKE A MAN THAN A WOMAN, EVEN TO THE
RIDICULOUS GUT LAUGHS AND SHOT DRINKING, I.E.
---
HILLARY IS TRYING TO PROVE SHE IS A MAN AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO PROVE
SHE IS JUST AS STRONG AS BUSH IS, WHEN ALL SHE HAS DONE IS MAKE A
TOTAL FOOL OUT OF HERSELF,BUT SHE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN BEING JUST AS
SMART AS BUSH HAS SHOWN THE WORLD THAT HE IS!
---
(5) HILLARY HAS GONE MUCH FARTHER...SHE IS NOW RAISING HER RHETORIC TO
ENFLAMING NATIONS WHO SHE SAYS SHE WILL NUKE, JUST LIKE THE MORON BUSH
DID.
--
HERE IS HER LATEST B.S. ABOUT IRAN. JUST WHAT WE AMERICANS NEED NOW,
WHILE WE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE TOILET WITH BUSH'S TWO ILLEGAL WARS.
--
IF YOU AMERICAN WOMEN WANT TO VOTE FOR HILLARY, JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A
WOMAN, YOU WILL PROVE TO THE WORLD HOW STUPID YOU ALL ARE.
---
I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A WOMAN PRESIDENT BY NOW, BUT TO
PUT HILLARY IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WILL BE JUST ANOTHER AMERICAN FAILURE.
WE DON'T NEED A PATHETIC AND DELUSIONAL WOMAN, NOR HER HUSBAND "AGAIN".
--
Subject: 5-01-08-HILLARY CAUSES IRAN TO REPORT HER WAR-MONGERING
--
Subject:5-01-08-
Report: Tehran protests Clinton's Iran talk of annilation
---
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/clinton.iran/index.html?eref=rss_politics
------
Report: Tehran protests Clinton's Iran talk
---
Iran's deputy ambassador to U.N. calls remarks violation of the U.N.
Charter
----
(CNN) -- The Iranian government is protesting remarks from Democratic
presidential candidate Hillary Clinton -- who said the United States
could "totally obliterate" Iran if it made a nuclear attack on Israel,
an Iranian news outlet reported on Thursday.
----
Iran has protested to the U.N. about Hillary Clinton's comments on the
U.S. response should Iran attack Israel
----
The state-run Islamic Republic News Agency said Iran sent a letter of
protest, dated Wednesday, to the United Nations and the U.N. Security
Council over remarks it calls "provocative, unwarranted and
irresponsible."
----
Clinton told ABC's "Good Morning America" that "I want the Iranians to
know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacked
Israel)."
---
"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider
launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate
them," Clinton said.
---
"That's a terrible thing to say, but those people who run Iran need to
understand that, because that perhaps will deter them from doing
something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic."
---
The letter, sent by Mehdi Danesh-Yazdi, Iran's deputy ambassador to
the U.N., called the remarks a violation of the U.N. Charter and said
they run counter to the "legal principles on rights of other nations,"
IRNA reported.
---
Yazdi underscored Iran's opposition to nuclear weapons and all weapons
of mass destruction.
"I wish to reiterate my government's position that the Islamic
Republic of Iran has no intention to attack any other nations," Yazdi
said.
---
"Nonetheless .... Iran would not hesitate to act in self-defense to
respond to any attack against the Iranian nation and to take
appropriate defensive measures to protect itself."
---
� 2008 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. All Rights
Reserved.


Toby

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+++++++++++++
WELL, WE CAN NOW CLEARLY SEE WHERE AND WHO IS BEHIND THE TRASHING OF
OBAMA, I.E.
(1) THE REPUBS WHO "KNOW" THEY CAN COUNT ON HILLARY TO CONTINUE THE
SUPPORT OF CORPORATIONS OVER THE WORKERS (SEE THE ABOVE LINK TO WHERE
SHE HAS GOTTEN HER MONEY;
---
(2) BOTH THE REPUBS AND CLINTON ARE "USING RACISM" TO TRASH OBAMA;
FIRST BY CLINTON'S REGIME TO START A FIGHT OVER WHAT A BLACK PREACHER
HAS SAID, NOT OBAMA, BUT ACT AS IF OBAMA AGREED WITH THE PASTOR..SORT
OF LIKE "THE MISSING WMD CON JOB", WHICH WAS ALSO A LIE.
---
(2) ALL OF THIS FRAUD WHEN HILLARY HAS BLATANTLY AND INTENTIONALLY
LIED TO US ABOUT "UNDER-GOING LIVE FIRE IN BOSNIA, AND HER LIES ABOUT
BEING A GUN-TOTING HUNTER."
---
(3) THE REPUBS "KNOW" THAT MCCLAIN WON'T WIN, BECAUSE HE, HIMSELF HAS
TOTALLY REFUTED ALL OF HIS "PRINCIPLES" AND IS NOW SPEWING WHAT THE
BUSH REPUBS WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM. (ANOTHER CON-JOB).
--
SO, BECAUSE SO MANY REPUBS HAVE LEFT THE "FACISTS BUSH REGIME" THEY
WILL ONLY HAVE THE TWO DEMOS TO CHOOSE FROM, AND HILLARY WILL
DEFINITELY FALL IN LINE, LIKE BILL DID WHEN HE SIGNED THE FTA
AGREEMENT.
---
THUS, THE MOST DANGEROUS CANDIDATE TO THE REPUBS AND HILLARY, IS NOW
THE TOTAL TARGET OF THEIR WRATH, OBAMA, A HALF-BLACK MAN, WHO HAS A
DOCUMENTED RECORD OF "WORKING FOR THE POOR" WHEN HE COULD HAVE BEEN A
CORP. LAWYER.
---
AND, GOD FORBID, THE BILLIONS OF MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD WOULD START
TO FEEL THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY START TRUSTING THE USA AGAIN, INSTEAD
OF GETTING BOMBED, AS HILLARY HAS NOW THREATENED AGAINST IRAN.
---
YEP, IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE POLITICIANS WHO BLATANTLY LIE
TO YOU AND THROW YOU INTO GLOBAL WARS AND ROB YOUR TREASURY IN ORDER
TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE SO YOUR BUDDIES (OIL CORPS) CAN ROB THESE
NATIONS OF THEIR ONLY RESOURCE.
---
THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL TRASHING GAME ON OBAMA ONLY PROVES THAT RACISM IS
ALIVE AND WELL IN THE USA AND IT STILL LIES WITHIN THOSE AREAS OF THE
NATION WHERE THE MOST IGNORANT LIVE.
---
NOTE: I WISH THIS POLL WOULD HAVE EXPANDED TO TWO MORE QUESTIONS:
--
(1) HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND IN READING THE NEWS ABOUT YOUR GOVT?;
--
(2) DID YOU GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL?
---
BECAUSE THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY MANY MORE CLUELESS AND LAZY AMERICANS THEN
THOSE THAT MAKE AN EFFORT TO CARE ABOUT THEIR GOVT. AND NATION, WE CAN
PROBABLY DISMISS THIS POLL BECAUSE THESE AMERICANS PROBABLY WON'T VOTE
ANYWAY. BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE GREEDY, UNETHICAL AND
SELF-SERVING CAN UNITE TO FIGHT AGAINST AN AMERICAN WHO HAS PROVED HIS
"PRIORITIES" HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO HELP THE WORKING POOR, BECAUSE...HE
KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE, WHAT THAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
---
Subject: 05-04-08-BLUE COLLAR WORKERS SAY "RACE IS IMPORTANT" IN PRES.
ELECTION
---
Subject:05-04-08-
Polls: Obama
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24447399
>
----
updated 11:58 a.m. ET May 4, 2008
Barack Obama News
----
Polls: Obama falters with working-class whites
Impression of presidential hopeful among important group is getting
worse
---
AP
John Evion, bottom right, listens as Democratic presidential hopeful
Sen. Barack Obama speaks during a town hall-style meeting held at
Munster Steel Co. in Munster, Ind., on Friday. The Associated Press
----
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's problem winning votes from working-class
whites is showing no sign of going away, and their impression of him
is getting worse.
---
Those are ominous signals as he hopes for strong performances in the
coming week in Indiana and North Carolina primaries that would derail
the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton, his rival for the Democratic
presidential nomination.
----
Those contests come as his candidacy has been rocked by renewed
attention to his volatile former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and
by his defeat in last month's Pennsylvania primary.
---
In an Associated Press-Yahoo News poll in April, 53 percent of whites
who have not completed college viewed Obama unfavorably, up a dozen
percentage points from November.
----
During that period, the numbers viewing Clinton and Republican
candidate John McCain negatively have stayed about even.
---
The April poll conducted before the Pennsylvania contest also showed
an overwhelming preference for Clinton over Obama among working-class
whites.
----
They favored her over him by 39 percentage points, compared to a 10-
point Obama lead among white college graduates.
---
Obama also did worse than Clinton among those less-educated voters
when matched up against Republican candidate John McCain.
---
"It's the stuff about his preacher ... and the thing he said about
Pennsylvania towns, how they turn to religion," Keith Wolfe, 41, a
supermarket food stocker from Parkville, Md., said in a follow-up
interview. "I don't think he'd be a really good leader."
---
Just before the Pennsylvania primary, Obama said many small-town
residents are bitter about their lives and turn for solace to religion
and guns.
--
Recent voting patterns underscore Obama's continued poor performance
with these voters, who are often pivotal in general election swing
states like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
---
In Democratic primaries held on or before Super Tuesday, Feb. 5,
whites who have not finished college favored the New York senator by a
cumulative 59 percent to 32 percent, according to exit polls of voters
conducted for
The Associated Press and the television networks.
---
In primaries since Feb. 5, that group has favored Clinton by 64
percent to 34 percent.
---
That includes Ohio and Pennsylvania, in which working-class whites
have favored Clinton by 44 and 41 percentage points respectively.
---
The AP-Yahoo poll shows less educated whites present a problem to
Obama in part because of who they are. Besides being poorer, they tend
to be older than white college graduates and Clinton has done strongly
with older white voters.
---
'Lacks content'
---
Yet political professionals and analysts say more is at play.
---
They blame Obama's problems with blue-collar whites on their greater
reluctance to embrace his bid to become the first black president, and
his failure to address their concerns about job losses and the
battered economy specifically enough.
---
Terry Madonna, a political science professor at Franklin & Marshall
College in Lancaster, Pa., said Obama lost among working-class whites
in the state because his message of how this generation's time has
come did not address their economic needs.
---
"While it's incredibly motivating and passionate and compelling, it
lacks content," Madonna said. "Hillary would come in and relate to
them, talk about the specifics of her policy."
---
Pennsylvania also illustrated the problems
----------------------------------------------
"racial attitudes" among less educated whites
----------------------------------------------
are causing Obama.
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In exit polls, 1 in 5 of the state's white
----------------------------------------------
voters who haven't completed college said:
----------------------------------------------
race was an important factor in choosing a
----------------------------------------------
candidate, about double the number of white college graduates who said
so.
---
Eight in 10 of them voted for Clinton over Obama, and only about half
said they would vote for Obama over McCain in November.
---
"The scab is peeled back off," Democratic pollster John Anzalone, not
working for either presidential candidate, said of the latest
attention focused on Wright and Obama's denunciations of him.
---
In video clips of past sermons, Wright has damned the United States
for its history of racism and accused the government of spreading the
HIV virus to harm blacks.
---
Obama pollster Cornell Belcher said that while working-class whites
have favored Clinton, the fact that huge numbers of them and other
voters have participated in Democratic contests boded well for the
November election.
"I don't think there's going to be erosion in the fall of a core group
of Democratic voters," Belcher said.
----
While less educated whites tend to vote less frequently than better
educated voters, they are important because of their sheer number.
---
Exit polls show they have comprised three in 10 voters in Democratic
contests so far, a group that cannot be ignored in a contest that has
seen Obama maintain a slim lead.
---
They made up 43 percent of all voters in the 2004 presidential
contest, when they heavily favored President Bush over Democrat John
Kerry.
---
Underlining his need to connect with these voters, Obama has geared
some television ads in Indiana toward economic issues.
---
In recent days he has turned to small events, rather than his
trademark huge rallies, concentrating on the economy, including
lunching with a blue-collar Indiana family while discussing their
problems.
---
He has let cameras record him playing basketball in hopes of
connecting with the passionate fans of the sport who populate Indiana
and North Carolina.
---
The findings from the AP-Yahoo News poll are from interviews with 863
Democrats on a panel of adults questioned in November and April. It
has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points.
---
The poll was conducted over the Internet by Knowledge Networks, which
initially contacted people using traditional telephone polling methods
and followed with online interviews.
---
People chosen for the study who had no Internet access were given it
free.
---
The exit poll is based on in-person interviews with more than 36,000
voters in 28 states that have held primaries this year in which both
candidates actively competed. The margin of sampling error is plus or
minus 1 percentage point, larger for some subgroups.
---
� 2008 MSNBC.com

Lockheed Martin

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May 4, 2008, 3:40:59 PM5/4/08
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On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:12:29 -0700 (PDT), Toby <sar...@webtv.net>
wrote:

I saw Obama this mornig on Meet the Press
This guy I would like to answer at 3:00 Am

All I hope is that the DEMS can survive your next ATTACK ADDS
which sounds like KARL ROVE

JACKEL

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May 6, 2008, 6:05:42 PM5/6/08
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WELL, IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES GOT A BACKBONE TO
HOLD THESE WAR CRIMINALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTS. YET, THE NEWS
MEDIA, ESPECIALLY T.V. HAS KEPT THIS IMPORTANT NEWS SILENCED. WHY?
---
Subject: 4-14-08-
---
Obama: AG Would Review Potential White House Crimes
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/041508B.shtml
>
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JACKEL

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JACKEL

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YEP, SAY ONE THING TO THE PEOPLE THEN DO THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE...MC
CAIN PROVES HOW UNETHICAL HE IS..NO THANKS, 8 YEARS OF BUSH'S LIES AND
ILLEGAL ACTS WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S.A.
---
Subject:5-11-08-
--
McCain Convention Chief Tied to Burma's Junta Quits
--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108Y.shtml
>
---

JACKEL

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May 15, 2008, 4:13:37 PM5/15/08
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BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HAVE THEM ON THE KILLING FIELDS FOR 12 YEARS FIRST.
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Subject:5-13-08-
--
"McCain"Against Education Benefits for Veterans
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051408N.shtml
>

Rico

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May 19, 2008, 6:53:12 PM5/19/08
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IF THERE IS "ONE THING" AMERICANS DEMAND FROM THE PRES. CANDIDATES IS:
"TELLING THEM THE TRUTH", BUT CLEARLY HILLARY "DOESN'T GET IT AND
WORSE OF ALL, SHE THINKS WE ARE ALL TO STUPID TO KNOW WHAT SHE HAS
ALREADY SAID AND DONE, SO SHE CONTINUES WITH MORE LIES.
--
THIS PROVES SHE IS LIKE BUSH WHO IS OBVIOUSLY A PSYCHOPATH AND
OPERATES UNDER A DELUSION OF GRANDEUR..BOTH NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP AND
INVOLUNTARY REMOVAL FROM OFFICE AS "NOT BEING MENTALLY FIT TO SERVE".
---
REMEMBER: THEY HAVE/WOULD HAVE--NUKES! IF THIS ISN'T A NATIONAL
SECURITY PROBLEM, THEN WE HAVE NONE.
--
NOTE: CLINTON DAUGHTER WAS ON TV OVER WEEKEND STATING: "MY MOM WOULD
MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THEN MY DAD WAS"..PATHETIC.
---
"THE ENEMY LIES WITHIN".
---
Subject:4-09-08-
--
Bill, Hillary Clinton disagree on Colombia trade pact
---
http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Bill%2C+Hillary+Clinton+disagree+on+Colombia+trade+pact+-+CNN.com&expire=&urlID=27942350&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2008%2FPOLITICS%2F04%2F09%2Fclinton.colombia%2F&partnerID=211911
>
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Rico

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May 19, 2008, 7:11:42 PM5/19/08
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YOU JUST HAVE TO WONDER, JUST HOW SMART THE CLINTONS' REALLY ARE WHEN
THEY HAVE HIRE GUY LIKE THIS..BUT I THINK WE CAN ASSUME THAT THEY
HIRED PENN BECAUSE "HE WAS A GOOD CON", WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO CON THE
VOTERS, NOT THEM. GOOD TOO KNOW NOW, RATHER THAN LATER.
--
NOW WHAT WILL TAKE FOR THE MORONIC WOMEN WHO ARE BACKING HILLARY "JUST
BECAUSE SHE IS A FEMALE"?
----
Subject:4-07-08-
--
Clinton's chief strategist (PENN) steps aside -
---
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23985294/
>
---

Rico

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May 19, 2008, 7:29:05 PM5/19/08
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IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE TO ME THAT WOMEN ARE JUST GOING TO VOTE
FOR HILLARY BECAUSE "SHE IS A WOMAN" WHO THEY "THINK" WILL "HELP THEM"
BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMEN.
---
HOW SOON THEY FORGET THAT HILLARY HAS ALREADY STATED THAT "SHE DOESN'T
DO COOKING, I.E. MAKING COOKIES".
--
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT HER AMBITIONS ARE MORE POWERFUL, THEN GETTING RID
OF A TWO-TIMING WOMANIZER, WHO HAS PROVIDER HER WITH NANNY SERVICES,
TO RAISE HER "ONE AND ONLY CHILD", AS THE WIFE OF A GOVERNOR THEN
PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.
--
SHE NEITHER HAS THE KNOWLEDGE OR CONCERN OF OTHER WOMEN'S PROBLEMS AND
THE "ISSUES" SHE HAS TAKEN ON ARE "REAL CHALLENGES" WHICH THINKS SHE
CAN TAKE ON AND CHANGE, ALL BY HERSELF AND CAN CLAIM "SHE IS A SMART
WINNER FOR THE PEOPLE", WHEN "BEING A WINNER" IS SOLELY WHAT SHE WANTS
TO HEAR.
---
WAKE UP WOMEN, SHE IS JUST ANOTHER MANIPULATING AND LYING FEMALE, WHO
IS LOOKING OUT FOR NUMBER ONE...THAT WOULD BE "HER", NOT YOU. HOW MANY
MORE LIES WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO START KNOWING "WHO HILLARY CLINTON
REALLY IS?"
---
Subject:5-19-08-
--
Spinning Hillary Centrist- LINKS TO HILLARY
---
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070521/berman/print
>
--

Rico

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May 19, 2008, 7:53:07 PM5/19/08
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++++++++++++++++
YEP, BILLY CLINTON IS ALL FOR FREE TRADE WITH COLUMBIA AND HILLARY
ALSO DID UNTIL ...SHE DECIDED SHE WANTED TO "ACT LIKE A MAN" AND RUN
FOR PRES. SHE HAS NOTHING ON BUSH'S SWAGGER AND ARROGANCE, AS WELL AS
LYING, AND DRINKING..WELL, WHAT'S LEFT FOR HER TO DO TO MAKE US
BELIEVE "SHE IS JUST AS TOUGH AS THE TWO PSYCHOPATHS" BUSH/MCCAIN WHO
WANT TO BOMB IRAN ETC?
--
HOW ABOUT SENDING HER TO COLUMBIA AS A "RAMBOETTE"?
---
Subject:2-26-08-
--
COLOMBIA-Murders of trade unionists go unpunished in Colombia
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http://www.epi.org/printer.cfm?id=2902&content_type=1&nice_name=webfeatures_snapshots_20080226
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