Re: BOAT
krp
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>>>> Kent, Why did you remove your YouTube page?
>>>> Was it something to do with the video of ""your boat""?
>>> How would you know the page is gone?
>> Did you forget your BRAGGING about it?
> Bragging? How is offering links to a site than ANYONE can have,
> bragging? Be specific as I suspect you are the ONLY person who thinks
> getting a YouTube page and linking to it is bragging.
Oh postying it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
>>Now you BITCH and call Gregg a "STALKER" because he looked at the site YOU
>>were BRAGGING ABOUT?
> I never bragged about it, dullard.
Ya know shithead, most people look at the posting of blogs with photos
of things you CLAIM to own, all over Usenet as BRAGGING about it.Most folks
take it as grandiosity. I have some nice stuff, yet I only mention things
like my car in answer you your pal's stupid claims, I certainly do NOT have
a BLOG with photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own nor do I post them to dozens of
Usenet newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my credibility as a owner of VAST
amounts of real property, fleets of vehicles, boats planes etc. Of course if
I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED was mine, I'd make SURE the
registration DID say I owned it instead of somebody else. I'm just funny
that way.
> Why are you psychologicaly COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
>>How does THAT work Kunt? You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
> Once again the point went right past you. No surprise, really.
> BTW, why did you add so many groups, Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
What point? How does Greg repeating YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
How exactly does that work Kunt? Do you see yourself as some special case?
At your "station in life" do you see yourself as some special case?
When did I say I never do crossposts? I add newsgroups. Usually after
some LYING ASSHOLE removed them, OR when I think that they are more
appropriate in a different newsgroup.Such as making sure that the folks in
misc.legal get to see your LEGAL OPINIONS you post in other newsgroups so
they can see your LEGAL KNOWLEDGE. Or what you TRY to pretend as formidable
LEGAL authority and pass off as expertise with your "legal opinions." I
think more REAL LAWYERS need to read your LEGAL ADVICE Kunt to see what you
claim so stridently as "THE LAW."
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fttu1g$ifs$1...@stable.tornevall.net...
>
>>>>> Kent, Why did you remove your YouTube page?
>>>>> Was it something to do with the video of ""your boat""?
>
>>>> How would you know the page is gone?
>
>>> Did you forget your BRAGGING about it?
>
>> Bragging? How is offering links to a site than ANYONE can have,
>> bragging? Be specific as I suspect you are the ONLY person who thinks
>> getting a YouTube page and linking to it is bragging.
>
> Oh postying it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
You started the cross-posting. I simply replied to the same
groups.
>
>>>Now you BITCH and call Gregg a "STALKER" because he looked at the site YOU
>>>were BRAGGING ABOUT?
>
>> I never bragged about it, dullard.
>
> Ya know shithead, most people look at the posting of blogs with photos
>of things you CLAIM to own, all over Usenet as BRAGGING about it
That the closest thing I have to a blog is on MySpace. That I have
NO photos on that "blog" doesn't factor in, huh?
Kenny-Bob has LIES to tell. The truth be damned!
>Most folks
>take it as grandiosity. I have some nice stuff, yet I only mention things
>like my car in answer you your pal's stupid claims,
You have almost nothing.
>I certainly do NOT have
>a BLOG with photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own
Nor do I. Keep LYING and claiming I do, if your seriously ill
mind requires it, but the truth will remain the truth.
>nor do I post them to dozens of
>Usenet newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my credibility as a owner of VAST
>amounts of real property,
Meh... I don't see it as vast. I accept that you do.
>fleets of vehicles,
We don't have a fleet.
Why do you lie?
>boats
Hey, what ever became of you LIE that I mentioned owning a third
boat? When the light of truth was shown on your comment, you ran away
like the cockroach you are.
>planes
ONE Piper Cub. One. Singular.
I understand that you see one as equaling a number greater than
one, but I don't think many others have this affliction.
>etc. Of course if
>I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED was mine, I'd make SURE the
>registration DID say I owned it instead of somebody else. I'm just funny
>that way.
The current registration for both boats list the corporation as
owner.
You would do well NOT to pay attention to what Jonezie claims.
He will freely lie with NO indication of regret, sorrow or concern for
the truth.
>
>> Why are you psychologicaly COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
>
> I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
I've proved you to be the liar you are above.
And not for the first time. I doubt it will be the last.
>
> >>How does THAT work Kunt? You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
>
>> Once again the point went right past you. No surprise, really.
>> BTW, why did you add so many groups, Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
>
> What point? How does Greg repeating YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
When, exactly, did I post the names and birthdays of past and
current members of alt.friends?
Is there anything about which you will NOT lie?
>How exactly does that work Kunt? Do you see yourself as some special case?
>At your "station in life" do you see yourself as some special case?
Have I ever claimed such?
Hint: No.
>
> When did I say I never do crossposts? I add newsgroups.
So you LIED when you claimed it was Moore who was the only one
doing it. Got it.
>Usually after
>some LYING ASSHOLE removed them, OR when I think that they are more
>appropriate in a different newsgroup.Such as making sure that the folks in
>misc.legal get to see your LEGAL OPINIONS you post in other newsgroups so
>they can see your LEGAL KNOWLEDGE.
Everyone here is aware of me and my opinions.
>Or what you TRY to pretend as formidable
>LEGAL authority and pass off as expertise with your "legal opinions."
What is the EXACT reason you are psychologically forced to LIE and
give me a level of knowledge you KNOW I don't have?
>I
>think more REAL LAWYERS need to read your LEGAL ADVICE Kunt to see what you
>claim so stridently as "THE LAW."
>
There are a few lawyers in misc.legal. And I point out in any
reply that could be viewed as legal advice that I'm not a lawyer.
Further, I tell people that if anyone who is a lawyer contradicts
anything I write, they should go with the lawyer's opinion over mine.
Of course, you already know this, but lack the mental stability
to admit it.
--
"We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting, from an argument with a
woman on the talk.rape newsgroup
John "C"
> I love to spam 'alt.support.child-protective-services'
>
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> ซ.ทฐKUNTฐท.ป
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Pervert!
Number One
Greegor
G > Was it something to do with the video of ""your boat""?
KW > How would you know the page is gone?
G > Did you forget your BRAGGING about it?
KW > Bragging? How is offering links to a site
KW > than ANYONE can have, bragging?
Sure Mister WEBMASTER! LOL
http://www.pcpages.com/altfriends/bday.html
KW > Be specific as I suspect you are the
KW > ONLY person who thinks getting a
KW > YouTube page and linking to it is bragging.
KRP > Oh postying it on MANY newsgroups
KRP > are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
KW > You started the cross-posting.
KW > I simply replied to the same groups.
KRP > Now you BITCH and call Gregg a "STALKER"
KRP > because he looked at the site YOU
KRP > were BRAGGING ABOUT?
KW > I never bragged about it, dullard.
KRP > Ya know [s-head], most people look at the
KRP > posting of blogs with photos of things you
KRP > CLAIM to own, all over Usenet as
KRP > BRAGGING about it
KW > That the closest thing I have to a blog is
KW > on MySpace. That I have NO photos on
KW > that "blog" doesn't factor in, huh?
KW > Kenny-Bob has LIES to tell.
KW > The truth be damned!
KRP > Most folks take it as grandiosity. I have
KRP > some nice stuff, yet I only mention things
KRP > like my car in answer you your pal's stupid claims,
KW > You have almost nothing.
Unlike you, Kent, Ken P is neither bragging nor is he
hiding all of his assets behind some sort of tax dodge.
What he has is not under a "corporation" or a "family trust", Kent.
KRP > I certainly do NOT have a BLOG with
KRP > photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own
KW > Nor do I. Keep LYING and claiming I do,
KW > if your seriously ill mind requires it, but
KW > the truth will remain the truth.
Kent Wills, arbiter of truth? Comedic genius!
KRP > nor do I post them to dozens of Usenet
KRP > newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my
KRP > credibility as a owner of VAST
KRP > amounts of real property,
KW > Meh... I don't see it as vast. I accept that you do.
KRP > fleets of vehicles,
KW > We don't have a fleet.
KW > Why do you lie?
KRP > boats
KW > Hey, what ever became of you LIE that I
KW > mentioned owning a third boat? When
KW > the light of truth was shown on your
KW > comment, you ran away like the
KW > cockroach you are.
KRP > planes
KW > ONE Piper Cub. One. Singular.
Isn't that a two seater?
How does that work with kids?
KW > I understand that you see one as
KW > equaling a number greater than
KW > one, but I don't think many others
KW > have this affliction.
KRP > etc. Of course if
KRP > I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED
KRP > was mine, I'd make SURE the
KRP > registration DID say I owned it instead
KRP > of somebody else. I'm just funny
KRP > that way.
KW > The current registration for both boats
KW > list the corporation as owner.
LLC, incorporated or non-profit?
Isn't it time for the IRS to check out
your little tax dodge?
Was this ""corporation"" scam a means
to avoid paying for your own attorney,
avoid paying restitution or fines?
Certainly having all of your property
listed under a corporation seems
a bit "scammy".
Boats, plane, house, pool serve what purpose
in this corporation?
KW > You would do well NOT to pay
KW > attention to what Jonezie claims.
KW > He will freely lie with NO indication of
KW > regret, sorrow or concern for the truth.
KW > Why are you psychologicaly
KW > COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
KRP > I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
KW > I've proved you to be the liar you are above.
KW > And not for the first time. I doubt it will be the last.
Kent, you show a proclivity for calling everything
you want to hear truth and everything you don't
want to hear lies. It's fairly transparent at this point.
KRP > How does THAT work Kunt?
KRP > You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
KW > Once again the point went right past you.
KW > No surprise, really.
KW > BTW, why did you add so many groups,
KW > Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
KRP > What point? How does Greg repeating
KRP > YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
KW > When, exactly, did I post the names and
KW > birthdays of past and current members of alt.friends?
KW > Is there anything about which you will NOT lie?
You made a freakin WEB PAGE for exactly that!
On the WORLD WIDE WEB no less.
KRP > How exactly does that work Kunt?
KRP > Do you see yourself as some special case?
KRP > At your "station in life" do you
KRP > see yourself as some special case?
KW > Have I ever claimed such? Hint: No.
Claiming that gypsy is a slur.
Pretending that posting your Felony
Garage Burglary records is ""stalking"".
KW > When did I say I never do crossposts? I add newsgroups.
KW > So you LIED when you claimed it was Moore who
KW > was the only one doing it. Got it.
KRP > Usually after some LYING ASSHOLE
KRP > removed them, OR when I think that
KRP > they are more appropriate in a different
KRP > newsgroup.Such as making sure that
KRP > the folks in misc.legal get to see your
KRP > LEGAL OPINIONS you post in other
KRP > newsgroups so they can see
KRP > your LEGAL KNOWLEDGE.
KW > Everyone here is aware of me and my opinions.
KRP > Or what you TRY to pretend as formidable
KRP > LEGAL authority and pass off as
KRP > expertise with your "legal opinions."
KW > What is the EXACT reason you are
KW > psychologically forced to LIE and
KW > give me a level of knowledge you
KW > KNOW I don't have?
KRP > I think more REAL LAWYERS need
KRP > to read your LEGAL ADVICE Kunt
KRP > to see what you claim so stridently
KRP > as "THE LAW."
KW > There are a few lawyers in misc.legal.
KW > And I point out in any reply that could
KW > be viewed as legal advice that I'm not
KW > a lawyer. Further, I tell people that
KW > if anyone who is a lawyer contradicts
KW > anything I write, they should go with
KW > the lawyer's opinion over mine.
Shouldn't they also study the brilliant strategy
you used in your Iowa Supreme Court appeal?
KW > Of course, you already know this,
KW > but lack the mental stability to admit it.
Clumsy attempt at manipulation.
krp
>> Oh posting it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
> You started the cross-posting. I simply replied to the same
> groups.
Kunt the links to your BLOGS were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
about all your VAST wealth and holdings. That many panned out to be FALSE
only add to the humor here.
>>>>Now you BITCH and call Gregg a "STALKER" because he looked at the site
>>>>YOU
>>>>were BRAGGING ABOUT?
>>> I never bragged about it, dullard.
>> Ya know shithead, most people look at the posting of blogs with photos
>> of things you CLAIM to own, all over Usenet as BRAGGING about it
> That the closest thing I have to a blog is on MySpace. That I have NO
> photos on that "blog" doesn't factor in, huh?
> Kenny-Bob has LIES to tell. The truth be damned!
Hey DIPSHIT you have one UP as we speak with a little FAIRY mounted on a
HORSE. Your LIES, Kunt are amusing, the photos of your CARS, the YACHTS, the
OLYMPIC INDOOR SWIMMING POOL, and your "wife" they are all amusing. That you
now DENY them is ecen more amusing Kunt.
>>Most folks take it as grandiosity. I have some nice stuff, yet I only
>>mention things
>>like my car in answer you your pal's stupid claims,
> You have almost nothing.
What I "have" Kunt is not any of your business. I have NO need to
externally validate myself and MY "station in life" as YOU DO. I have a few
things. I have a car. My wife has a car - it's HER car. She paid for it. My
Step-son has a car - he's paying for it. I own a modest home. It's paid
for. I have some other "stuff"
that I don't talk about. I don't have the DESPERATE NEED that you obviously
DO for external validation.
>>I certainly do NOT have a BLOG with photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own
> Nor do I. Keep LYING and claiming I do, if your seriously ill
> mind requires it, but the truth will remain the truth.
Oh Kunt - everyone ahs seen your bragging with your house, cars, BOATS
and the like. The swimming pools.... Denying them now just makes you an even
bigger CLOWN.
>>nor do I post them to dozens of Usenet newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my
>>credibility as a owner of VAST
>>amounts of real property,
> Meh... I don't see it as vast. I accept that you do.
Yeah just MODEST land holdings all over the world.
>>fleets of vehicles,
> We don't have a fleet. Why do you lie?
I don't, YOU DO!
>>boats
> Hey, what ever became of you LIE that I mentioned owning a third
> boat? When the light of truth was shown on your comment, you ran away
> like the cockroach you are.
So FAR - SO FAR Kunt you have identified THREE or FOUR different boats
as yours. Unless you want to argue that the boat turned blue or white and
morphed dramaticly in hull design and then the pontoon boat. And the CIGAR
boat with you and your "wife" working on it.
>>planes
> ONE Piper Cub. One. Singular. I understand that you see one as
> equaling a number greater than
> one, but I don't think many others have this affliction.
Registration number Kunt? I can't seem to find it in the FAA files. Is
that ALSO under another name of yours? Like the boat(S) and the rest? Tell
me Kunt WHY is it that when you show a photo of something, a boat, a car,
whatever with actual registration numbers they ALWAYS seem to turn out to be
registered to other names than yours? Is it that UNDERCOVER shit you are
doing again? Is it to keep the paperazi away from you?
>>etc. Of course if I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED was mine, I'd
>>make SURE the
>>registration DID say I owned it instead of somebody else. I'm just funny
>>that way.
> The current registration for both boats list the corporation as owner.
> You would do well NOT to pay attention to what Jonezie claims.
> He will freely lie with NO indication of regret, sorrow or concern for
> the truth.
Actually Kunt - they are listed to PEOPLE - NOT YOU. Why is that?
>>> Why are you psychologicaly COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
>> I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
> I've proved you to be the liar you are above.
> And not for the first time. I doubt it will be the last.
No Kunt you CLAIM I am the liar. The PROOF is that YOU are the liar.
Here is a HINT Kunt. You know with photos they cam be expanded and things
like LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS can be seen? WHY do you claim to own cars that
seem to be registered to OTHER people????????
>> >>How does THAT work Kunt? You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
>>> Once again the point went right past you. No surprise, really.
>>> BTW, why did you add so many groups, Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
>> What point? How does Greg repeating YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
> When, exactly, did I post the names and birthdays of past and current
> members of alt.friends?
> Is there anything about which you will NOT lie?
You had it on a BLOG Kunt. Ask Gregg - also look back in Google - he
listed the link that traced to YOUR SORRY ASS!
>>How exactly does that work Kunt? Do you see yourself as some special case?
>>At your "station in life" do you see yourself as some special case?
> Have I ever claimed such? Hint: No.
Yet you seem to behave that way.
>> When did I say I never do crossposts? I add newsgroups.
> So you LIED when you claimed it was Moore who was the only one
> doing it. Got it.
Kunt - Moore does it, you do it, I do it, most folks do it, thanks for
the post edit adding a period where there wasn't one. I said I do it WHEN I
am adding back a newsgroup that somebody has removed, or when it is a topic
of more interest elsewhere.
>>Usually after some LYING ASSHOLE removed them, OR when I think that they
>>are more
>>appropriate in a different newsgroup.Such as making sure that the folks in
>>misc.legal get to see your LEGAL OPINIONS you post in other newsgroups so
>>they can see your LEGAL KNOWLEDGE.
> Everyone here is aware of me and my opinions.
No, Kunt, the readers of misc.legal don't generally get to see some of
your more outrageous LEGAL OPINIONS and abusive behavior trying to cram them
down other folks throats as FACTS. Such as your WRONG claims on immigration
law.
>>Or what you TRY to pretend as formidable
>>LEGAL authority and pass off as expertise with your "legal opinions."
> What is the EXACT reason you are psychologically forced to LIE and
> give me a level of knowledge you KNOW I don't have?
Kunt - it is simple. If you REALLY realize your lack of knowledge on
these topics - why are you so argumentative and abusive of those who DO?
That not only includes knowledgeable lay people like myself but actual
LAWYERS! Your arrgoant "I am right and everyone else is wrong" bullshit. IF
you REALLY understood your limitations, Wills, you'd back off a bit and at
least check out links provided to you to show you that you are wrong. You
are an arrogant BLOW HARD Wills amd your "LEGAL ADVICE" is usually SHIT! You
really need to keep it to yourself.
>> I think more REAL LAWYERS need to read your LEGAL ADVICE Kunt to see what
>> you
>> claim so stridently as "THE LAW."
> There are a few lawyers in misc.legal. And I point out in any
> reply that could be viewed as legal advice that I'm not a lawyer.
Kunt the little disclaimer (occasional as it is) is hollow as you try to
BULLY people to accept YOUR opinions as "THE facts" and state of the law,
and often you are 100% full of shit. You argue with lawyers and try to
intimidate them on THE LAW. You give people ADVICE that is BAD LEGAL ADVICE.
You state LEGAL OPINIONS AS FACT when you are wrong. The best legal advice
is "ASK A REAL LAWYER." Not some jailhouse PUNK who is generally full of
shit about the law. A good example of your TOTAL inability to usderstand how
"conflicts in law" are resolved. You can't even understand that they need to
be, much less the process for resolving them. Yet to try to ADVISE people
based on your INCORRECT understanding of the law. You and I were mud
wrestling on the CONFLICT of Visa "regulations" (which have the effect of
law) and actual black letter federal law enacted by congress and signed into
law by the President. That they NEED to be reconciled is a concept you don't
understand much less HOW they are resolved. Not to mention the legal burdens
and costs for doing so.
> Further, I tell people that if anyone who is a lawyer contradicts
> anything I write, they should go with the lawyer's opinion over mine.
> Of course, you already know this, but lack the mental stability
> to admit it.
Kunt - that doesn't save you from the unauthorized practice of law. A
lawyer should HAVE TO contradict you when your claims are BULLSHIT. You
should offer STRIDENT LEGAL OPINIONS in the first place. It is NOT the
responsibility of the BAR to argue with your bullshit.
> "We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
> --Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting, from an argument with a
> woman on the talk.rape newsgroup
FALSE Kunt. That was NOT form me and you are perpetuating a LIE. Your
buddy MOORE using his anonymous remailers FORGED that. You also KNOW that.
It does NOT appear in the Google archives FOR A REASON. It is an INVENTION
of your PSYCHO buddy David Moore the STALKER!
Kent Wills
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > Kent, Why did you remove your YouTube page?
>G > Was it something to do with the video of ""your boat""?
>
>KW > How would you know the page is gone?
>
>G > Did you forget your BRAGGING about it?
>
>KW > Bragging? How is offering links to a site
>KW > than ANYONE can have, bragging?
>
>Sure Mister WEBMASTER! LOL
So you agree that linking to a site that anyone can have is NOT
bragging. There's hope for you yet.
What assets am I hiding? Be specific.
If you prefer, you may admit you are lying.
>What he has is not under a "corporation" or a "family trust", Kent.
The trust and corporation are there as a means to avoid probate
when Lin and I die. I've mentioned this several times.
Why are you LYING about it?
>
>KRP > I certainly do NOT have a BLOG with
>KRP > photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own
>
>KW > Nor do I. Keep LYING and claiming I do,
>KW > if your seriously ill mind requires it, but
>KW > the truth will remain the truth.
>
>Kent Wills, arbiter of truth?
Yes.
>Comedic genius!
Not been paying attention to my jokes?
on occasion I can throw out a funny joke, but this is the
exception, not the rule. The vast majority of my jokes are really
lame.
>
>KRP > nor do I post them to dozens of Usenet
>KRP > newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my
>KRP > credibility as a owner of VAST
>KRP > amounts of real property,
>
>KW > Meh... I don't see it as vast. I accept that you do.
>
>KRP > fleets of vehicles,
>
>KW > We don't have a fleet.
>KW > Why do you lie?
>
>KRP > boats
>
>KW > Hey, what ever became of you LIE that I
>KW > mentioned owning a third boat? When
>KW > the light of truth was shown on your
>KW > comment, you ran away like the
>KW > cockroach you are.
>
>KRP > planes
>
>KW > ONE Piper Cub. One. Singular.
>
>Isn't that a two seater?
Some Piper Cubs may be. There are several models.
Ours seat five very easily. Six, if the four in back are
*really* good friends.
>How does that work with kids?
They sit behind us. Duh.
Why do you work so hard to PROVE you are as stupid as you
present? Serious question.
>
>KW > I understand that you see one as
>KW > equaling a number greater than
>KW > one, but I don't think many others
>KW > have this affliction.
>
>KRP > etc. Of course if
>KRP > I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED
>KRP > was mine, I'd make SURE the
>KRP > registration DID say I owned it instead
>KRP > of somebody else. I'm just funny
>KRP > that way.
>
>KW > The current registration for both boats
>KW > list the corporation as owner.
>
>LLC, incorporated or non-profit?
Proprietorship is, I think, the term.
I'll ask my accountant then next time we speak.
>
>Isn't it time for the IRS to check out
>your little tax dodge?
What tax dodge?
What is the EXACT reason you are LYING and claiming a corporation
and trust, that were set up to avoid probate (perfectly legal), is a
tax dodge?
It would be a stupid way to avoid taxes, since the corp. pays
taxes, and we pay taxes on any and all draws.
Once again you PROVE you are a very stupid being.
>
>Was this ""corporation"" scam a means
>to avoid paying for your own attorney,
>avoid paying restitution or fines?
Please prove it's a scam.
Your pathological LIE aside, the corporation means paying out
more in taxes and fees.
>
>Certainly having all of your property
>listed under a corporation seems
>a bit "scammy".
First, not everything is listed under the corporation. As you
know, but lack the psychological ability to admit, there is the trust
as well.
Second, Lin and I pay more in taxes as a result of it. I don't
view it as our being scammed, but if you want to believe your lie, so
be it.
>
>Boats, plane, house, pool serve what purpose
>in this corporation?
Not everything is owned by the corporation, simpleton. But then,
you surely knew this and are once again lying.
>
>KW > You would do well NOT to pay
>KW > attention to what Jonezie claims.
>KW > He will freely lie with NO indication of
>KW > regret, sorrow or concern for the truth.
>
>KW > Why are you psychologicaly
>KW > COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
>
>KRP > I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
>
>KW > I've proved you to be the liar you are above.
>KW > And not for the first time. I doubt it will be the last.
>
>Kent, you show a proclivity for calling everything
>you want to hear truth and everything you don't
>want to hear lies. It's fairly transparent at this point.
Truth is truth and lies are lies.
I've never even tried to hide this, so it shouldn't be clouded.
>
>KRP > How does THAT work Kunt?
>KRP > You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
>
>KW > Once again the point went right past you.
>KW > No surprise, really.
>KW > BTW, why did you add so many groups,
>KW > Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
>
>KRP > What point? How does Greg repeating
>KRP > YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
>
>KW > When, exactly, did I post the names and
>KW > birthdays of past and current members of alt.friends?
>KW > Is there anything about which you will NOT lie?
>
>You made a freakin WEB PAGE for exactly that!
Please prove that I made a web site for the purpose of having you
stalk people.
If you prefer, you may admit your comment is simply another of
your MANY lies.
>On the WORLD WIDE WEB no less.
Wow. A web page on the World Wide Web? Imagine that.
>
>KRP > How exactly does that work Kunt?
>KRP > Do you see yourself as some special case?
>KRP > At your "station in life" do you
>KRP > see yourself as some special case?
>
>KW > Have I ever claimed such? Hint: No.
>
>Claiming that gypsy is a slur.
It is.
>Pretending that posting your Felony
>Garage Burglary records is ""stalking"".
Pretending I have such a conviction, when have I claimed that
posting the information about it is stalking?
Is there anything about which you will not lie?
I've never filed an appeal.
What is the root cause of your pathological lying? Serious
question.
>
>http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20050506/04-0202.asp?search=+Kent+Wills+#_1
>
>KW > Of course, you already know this,
>KW > but lack the mental stability to admit it.
>
>Clumsy attempt at manipulation.
What euphemisms you use to describe truth are your issues to
address, not mine.
Why are you stalking and harassing past and current members of
alt.friends? I've asked several times, and you've refused to answer.
Now you aren't even playing the avoidance game.
Please answer the question now. Thanks in advance.
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:l5k70411umauu7bv8...@4ax.com...
>
>>> Oh posting it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
>
>> You started the cross-posting. I simply replied to the same
>> groups.
>
> Kunt the links to your BLOGS
I don't have blogs.
The closest you can get is on MySpace, and there is no comment
about anything I or Lin own on it.
Why are you lying about this?
>were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
>about all your VAST wealth and holdings.
Liar.
You lied and said I have a miserable life. I replied only to the
groups to which you posted the lie.
>That many panned out to be FALSE
>only add to the humor here.
Please cite where any claim I've made regarding anything I own
was proved to be false.
>
>>>>>Now you BITCH and call Gregg a "STALKER" because he looked at the site
>>>>>YOU
>>>>>were BRAGGING ABOUT?
>
>>>> I never bragged about it, dullard.
>
>>> Ya know shithead, most people look at the posting of blogs with photos
>>> of things you CLAIM to own, all over Usenet as BRAGGING about it
>
>> That the closest thing I have to a blog is on MySpace. That I have NO
>> photos on that "blog" doesn't factor in, huh?
>> Kenny-Bob has LIES to tell. The truth be damned!
>
> Hey DIPSHIT you have one UP as we speak with a little FAIRY mounted on a
>HORSE. Your LIES, Kunt are amusing, the photos of your CARS,
What photos?
There are no photos of any of mine or Lin's vehicles on any of my
web sites.
>the YACHTS,
Why do you LIE and claim I own yachts (plural) when I don't own
even one yacht (singular).
Lin and I own two boats. Neither are a yacht.
>the
>OLYMPIC INDOOR SWIMMING POOL,
It's not Olympic size.
>and your "wife" they are all amusing.
There are no pictures of Lin on any site of mine.
>That you
>now DENY them is ecen more amusing Kunt.
I am exposing you for the liar you are.
>
>>>Most folks take it as grandiosity. I have some nice stuff, yet I only
>>>mention things
>>>like my car in answer you your pal's stupid claims,
>
>> You have almost nothing.
>
> What I "have" Kunt is not any of your business.
Agreed. Odd that you felt COMPELLED to LIE and claim you bought
a new SUV.
>I have NO need to
>externally validate myself and MY "station in life" as YOU DO.
You LIED and said I have a miserable life. I proved your lie to
be the lie it is.
>I have a few
>things. I have a car.
So you were lying when you claimed to have the SUV. No one would
confuse a car with any SUV.
>My wife has a car - it's HER car. She paid for it.
Good for her.
>My
>Step-son has a car - he's paying for it.
Good for him.
>I own a modest home. It's paid
>for. I have some other "stuff"
>that I don't talk about. I don't have the DESPERATE NEED that you obviously
>DO for external validation.
You have nothing about which to mention.
>
>>>I certainly do NOT have a BLOG with photos of THINGS I CLAIM to own
>
>> Nor do I. Keep LYING and claiming I do, if your seriously ill
>> mind requires it, but the truth will remain the truth.
>
> Oh Kunt - everyone ahs seen your bragging with your house, cars, BOATS
>and the like. The swimming pools.... Denying them now just makes you an even
>bigger CLOWN.
You have claimed I own a mansion. You were lying.
You have claimed I own yachts. You were lying.
You claim the pool is Olympic size. You were lying.
And so on.
BTW, I still don't have a blog with any pictures of anything Lin
and/or I own. Never have, and don't expect I ever will.
>
>>>nor do I post them to dozens of Usenet newsgroups to try to PUFF UP my
>>>credibility as a owner of VAST
>>>amounts of real property,
>
>> Meh... I don't see it as vast. I accept that you do.
>
> Yeah just MODEST land holdings all over the world.
>
All over the world? The only land we own is in Iowa and
Arkansas.
Next lie, please.
>>>fleets of vehicles,
>
>> We don't have a fleet. Why do you lie?
>
> I don't, YOU DO!
I've never claimed to own a fleet of vehicles. You have claimed
I do. You lied.
>
>>>boats
>
>> Hey, what ever became of you LIE that I mentioned owning a third
>> boat? When the light of truth was shown on your comment, you ran away
>> like the cockroach you are.
>
> So FAR - SO FAR Kunt you have identified THREE or FOUR different boats
>as yours.
Liar.
>Unless you want to argue that the boat turned blue or white and
>morphed dramaticly in hull design and then the pontoon boat. And the CIGAR
>boat with you and your "wife" working on it.
I've never claimed ownership of a cigar boat. I wasn't aware
such a boat existed until you mentioned it.
I've never made a comment about Lin or I working on any boat.
>
>>>planes
>
>> ONE Piper Cub. One. Singular. I understand that you see one as
>> equaling a number greater than
>> one, but I don't think many others have this affliction.
>
> Registration number Kunt?
It's on the side of the plane.
>I can't seem to find it in the FAA files.
That's because you don't have access.
>Is
>that ALSO under another name of yours?
It's registered under the trust.
>Like the boat(S) and the rest? Tell
>me Kunt WHY is it that when you show a photo of something, a boat, a car,
>whatever with actual registration numbers they ALWAYS seem to turn out to be
>registered to other names than yours?
They don't.
>Is it that UNDERCOVER shit you are
>doing again? Is it to keep the paperazi away from you?
What paparazzi?
How mentally ill are you that you think you can gain some fame by
proxy by LYING about me?
>
>>>etc. Of course if I DID post photos of a boat I CLAIMED was mine, I'd
>>>make SURE the
>>>registration DID say I owned it instead of somebody else. I'm just funny
>>>that way.
>
>> The current registration for both boats list the corporation as owner.
>> You would do well NOT to pay attention to what Jonezie claims.
>> He will freely lie with NO indication of regret, sorrow or concern for
>> the truth.
>
> Actually Kunt - they are listed to PEOPLE - NOT YOU. Why is that?
They are not.
Why are you LYING about this?
>
>>>> Why are you psychologicaly COMPELLED to LIE about most everything?
>
>>> I'm not the LIAR here Kunt. YOU ARE!
>
>> I've proved you to be the liar you are above.
>> And not for the first time. I doubt it will be the last.
>
> No Kunt you CLAIM I am the liar.
I've proved it MANY times.
>The PROOF is that YOU are the liar.
Odd that you've been UNABLE to prove even one. Not so odd,
really, since I've not lied.
>Here is a HINT Kunt. You know with photos they cam be expanded and things
>like LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS can be seen? WHY do you claim to own cars that
>seem to be registered to OTHER people????????
Since there are no photos of any of our vehicles available
on-line, you are once again lying.
I have made pictures available in the past. Each time the plate
has been blocked out. Expand the image all you want. You'll only see
black.
10 out of 10 for your attempt at lying. Negative several million
for failing, again, to pull it off.
>
>>> >>How does THAT work Kunt? You really ARE a big CRY BABY!
>
>>>> Once again the point went right past you. No surprise, really.
>>>> BTW, why did you add so many groups, Mr. I NEVER start cross-posts?
>
>>> What point? How does Greg repeating YOUR BULLSHIT make HIM a stalker?
>
>> When, exactly, did I post the names and birthdays of past and current
>> members of alt.friends?
>> Is there anything about which you will NOT lie?
>
> You had it on a BLOG Kunt.
Liar.
>Ask Gregg - also look back in Google - he
>listed the link that traced to YOUR SORRY ASS!
Since I've NEVER had a blog, unless you count MySpace, you are,
once again, lying.
And no one's birthday is listed on my "blog" at MySpace.
>
>>>How exactly does that work Kunt? Do you see yourself as some special case?
>>>At your "station in life" do you see yourself as some special case?
>
>> Have I ever claimed such? Hint: No.
>
> Yet you seem to behave that way.
Is there anything about which you will not lie? Serious
question.
>
>>> When did I say I never do crossposts? I add newsgroups.
>
>> So you LIED when you claimed it was Moore who was the only one
>> doing it. Got it.
>
> Kunt - Moore does it, you do it, I do it, most folks do it, thanks for
>the post edit adding a period where there wasn't one.
If you're going to lie, make certain the lie can't be proved.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/5460e0d226982dbb
Anyone who wishes may go and see that there was and is no post
edit.
You really need to work on only lying about that which can NOT be
proved. Really.
> I said I do it WHEN I
>am adding back a newsgroup that somebody has removed, or when it is a topic
>of more interest elsewhere.
But you claimed that you NEVER start cross-posts.
>
>>>Usually after some LYING ASSHOLE removed them, OR when I think that they
>>>are more
>>>appropriate in a different newsgroup.Such as making sure that the folks in
>>>misc.legal get to see your LEGAL OPINIONS you post in other newsgroups so
>>>they can see your LEGAL KNOWLEDGE.
>
>> Everyone here is aware of me and my opinions.
>
> No, Kunt, the readers of misc.legal don't generally get to see some of
>your more outrageous LEGAL OPINIONS and abusive behavior trying to cram them
>down other folks throats as FACTS. Such as your WRONG claims on immigration
>law.
Again, if you're going to lie, make certain the lie can't be
proved.
All of my replies to you are from misc.legal. If they aren't
seeing my comments, it's because they have chosen not to.
>
>>>Or what you TRY to pretend as formidable
>>>LEGAL authority and pass off as expertise with your "legal opinions."
>
>> What is the EXACT reason you are psychologically forced to LIE and
>> give me a level of knowledge you KNOW I don't have?
>
> Kunt - it is simple. If you REALLY realize your lack of knowledge on
>these topics - why are you so argumentative and abusive of those who DO?
What knowledge do you have, beyond knowing how to con people out
of money by promising them results that are never realized?
>That not only includes knowledgeable lay people like myself but actual
>LAWYERS!
When have I contradicted a lawyer on a matter of law?
>Your arrgoant "I am right and everyone else is wrong" bullshit.
Dishonest projection noted.
>IF
>you REALLY understood your limitations, Wills, you'd back off a bit and at
>least check out links provided to you to show you that you are wrong. You
>are an arrogant BLOW HARD Wills amd your "LEGAL ADVICE" is usually SHIT!
Only one lawyer has commented on my advice, and he stated it's
not bad.
And I'm willing to admit when I'm in error. You RUN when the
proof of your foolishness is displayed.
>You
>really need to keep it to yourself.
>
>>> I think more REAL LAWYERS need to read your LEGAL ADVICE Kunt to see what
>>> you
>>> claim so stridently as "THE LAW."
>
>> There are a few lawyers in misc.legal. And I point out in any
>> reply that could be viewed as legal advice that I'm not a lawyer.
>
> Kunt the little disclaimer (occasional as it is) is hollow as you try to
>BULLY people to accept YOUR opinions as "THE facts" and state of the law,
>and often you are 100% full of shit. You argue with lawyers and try to
>intimidate them on THE LAW.
Liar.
>You give people ADVICE that is BAD LEGAL ADVICE.
That you claim it's bad is iron clad PROOF that it's very good.
>You state LEGAL OPINIONS AS FACT when you are wrong.
Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
>The best legal advice
>is "ASK A REAL LAWYER."
I often tell people to do that.
>Not some jailhouse PUNK who is generally full of
>shit about the law. A good example of your TOTAL inability to usderstand how
>"conflicts in law" are resolved. You can't even understand that they need to
>be, much less the process for resolving them.
And yet I show a greater understanding than you. Odd that.
>Yet to try to ADVISE people
>based on your INCORRECT understanding of the law.
Since I don't know all there is to know about law, I tell people
that if a lawyer contradicts anything I write, the reader should go
with the lawyer's opinion over mine.
Fairly sage advice, if I do say so myself.
>You and I were mud
>wrestling on the CONFLICT of Visa "regulations" (which have the effect of
>law) and actual black letter federal law enacted by congress and signed into
>law by the President. That they NEED to be reconciled is a concept you don't
>understand much less HOW they are resolved. Not to mention the legal burdens
>and costs for doing so.
Actually, we were dealing with your LIE that you had to marry your
wife so that she could stay.
You offered the PROOF that you were lying yourself. Each link
you posted further proved that she wouldn't have been forced to leave
had you not married her in the U.S.
>
>> Further, I tell people that if anyone who is a lawyer contradicts
>> anything I write, they should go with the lawyer's opinion over mine.
>> Of course, you already know this, but lack the mental stability
>> to admit it.
>
> Kunt - that doesn't save you from the unauthorized practice of law.
Since I'm not practicing law, I'm not worried.
>A
>lawyer should HAVE TO contradict you when your claims are BULLSHIT.
When I'm wrong, I expect at least one will.
>You
>should offer STRIDENT LEGAL OPINIONS in the first place.
First I shouldn't, then I should.
Pick a lane.
>It is NOT the
>responsibility of the BAR to argue with your bullshit.
>
Who said anything about the Bar?
>
>> "We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
>> --Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting, from an argument with a
>> woman on the talk.rape newsgroup
>
> FALSE Kunt.
I don't know if Anastasia was/is a real woman or not. It is
possible she was really a he.
>That was NOT form me and you are perpetuating a LIE.
Why did you ADMIT to writing it?
Whether you intended it as sarcasm or not, the fact remains you
ADMITED to writing it.
If you didn't, why did you claim you did?
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/0468b8085d0ee5b5
>Your
>buddy MOORE using his anonymous remailers FORGED that. You also KNOW that.
I know you admitted to writing it.
I can't think of any reason for you to admit to it if you didn't
write it. If there is a reason, please let me know what it is.
>It does NOT appear in the Google archives FOR A REASON.
You nuked it.
You left your post where you ADMITED to writing it.
>It is an INVENTION
>of your PSYCHO buddy David Moore the STALKER!
>
Did he invent your freely admitting to authoring the threat?
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/0468b8085d0ee5b5
If you didn't write it, why did you admit to it?
Yes, you claim it was posted as sarcasm. Maybe it would be such
to some. However, the truth is you ADMITED to writing it.
--
"It's attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
Message-ID: <KLf2j.31312$9h.4837@trnddc07>
John "C"
krp
news:m69a04l92g189biif...@4ax.com...
>>>> Oh posting it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
>>
>>> You started the cross-posting. I simply replied to the same
>>> groups.
>>
>> Kunt the links to your BLOGS
> I don't have blogs. The closest you can get is on MySpace, and there
> is no comment
> about anything I or Lin own on it.
> Why are you lying about this?
>>were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
>>about all your VAST wealth and holdings.
> Liar.
> You lied and said I have a miserable life. I replied only to the
> groups to which you posted the lie.
But Kunt you DO have a miserable life. That you are so OBSESSED with
claiming ownership of VAST tracts of real estate, fleets of luxury cars,
boats, planes etc stands as evidence of that. Your obsessive need to
VALIDATE yourself via EXTERNALS. Your desperate seeking of approval and
establishing your "WORTH" via THINGS is amusing Kunt. Not to mention your
pathetic pattern of trying to BULLY those who disagree with you. Your
psychological NEED to prove you are better than others by your THINGS. When
I retort that I have a 2006 Honda SUV it drives you CRAZY. You MUST try to
prove I don't own one. And the door is open for me to keep playing with you.
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kent Wills
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:m69a04l92g189biif...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>> Oh posting it on MANY newsgroups are acts of Polish HUMILITY?
>>>
>>>> You started the cross-posting. I simply replied to the same
>>>> groups.
>>>
>>> Kunt the links to your BLOGS
>
>> I don't have blogs. The closest you can get is on MySpace, and there
>> is no comment
>> about anything I or Lin own on it.
>
>> Why are you lying about this?
>
Kenny-Bob?
>>>were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
>>>about all your VAST wealth and holdings.
>
>> Liar.
>> You lied and said I have a miserable life. I replied only to the
>> groups to which you posted the lie.
>
>
>But Kunt you DO have a miserable life.
Liar. My life is very good. That you are EXTREMELY jealous, as
PROVED by your psychological NEED to lie about what Lin and I own, is
your problem, not mine.
>That you are so OBSESSED with
>claiming ownership of VAST tracts of real estate,
You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>fleets of luxury cars,
You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>boats,
You have me here. We own two boats.
Hey, what ever became of the third boat you LIED and stated I
owned? What is the third boat you LIE and claim I own?
>planes
You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>etc stands as evidence of that.
Your dishonest claims stand as PROOF that you are jealous and
hope to gain some sort of fame by proxy.
Your hope will never be realized, since I'll continue to expose
your pathological lies.
>Your obsessive need to
>VALIDATE yourself via EXTERNALS.
You are the one who claims I own things I do not own.
>Your desperate seeking of approval and
>establishing your "WORTH" via THINGS is amusing Kunt. Not to mention your
>pathetic pattern of trying to BULLY those who disagree with you.
When have I bullied anyone other than bullies?
Yes, I do bully you, because you prey on others, often when they
are weakest.
>Your
>psychological NEED to prove you are better than others by your THINGS.
Even if I had nothing, I'd still be your superior.
>When
>I retort that I have a 2006 Honda SUV it drives you CRAZY.
So you lied when you claimed it was a 2008. I expect everyone
knew that, but it's nice that you've admitted to it.
>You MUST try to
>prove I don't own one.
Then explain why I've made no effort.
And asking you to support your claim isn't an effort to prove you
don't own it.
But above you state it's a 2006 and NOT a 2008. You have proved
you lied.
>And the door is open for me to keep playing with you.
>
>
Do you often think of playing with other males?
krp
news:pv3d045c2soen9e07...@4ax.com...
>>> I don't have blogs. The closest you can get is on MySpace, and
>>> there is no comment
>>> about anything I or Lin own on it.
>>> Why are you lying about this?
> Kenny-Bob?
I'm NOT but YOU ARE lying your ass off Kunt. The Youtube shit????? You
put up the sites and take them down like bowel movements. Then you LIE your
ass off about them,m except when you need to refer to them for some STUPID
argument you are making at the moment and the next post you DENY them again.
>>>>were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
>>>>about all your VAST wealth and holdings.
>>> Liar.
>>> You lied and said I have a miserable life. I replied only to the
>>> groups to which you posted the lie.
>>But Kunt you DO have a miserable life.
> Liar. My life is very good. That you are EXTREMELY jealous, as
> PROVED by your psychological NEED to lie about what Lin and I own, is
> your problem, not mine.
So you say with your HUGE land holdings all over the world your MANY
yachts, planes, fleets of LUXURY CARS and the rest when you NEED to validate
yourself and your self worth. Which you constantly do when you BRAG about
externals. THINGS don't make for a happy life you frigging DUNCE! Nor does
being a BULLY like you and your gay lover Moore on usenet. Life, my dumb
Polack is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
by your relationship with God (or the universe if you will) that KARMA that
you work on. NONE of which is present in your claims.
Here is something interesting for you to ponder. NOT that there is any
realtic hope that you, Sullivan or Moore will EVER be able to understand it.
How do you three creepa attack me? (Maybe I should include Roger and Kevin
too.) You TRY to do that by attackling my wife and my children and
grandchildren. Not my house, my cars, my TV sets. But attacking PEOPLE.
Attacking Joy for her website that dared to say something nice about me.
Attacking my associates and clients. You see Kunt - those are things that I
*HAVE* that YOU do NOT. Hence your "miserable life." You don't come back
talking about how much you love your wife Kunt. You mention her as a
posession, "she's a psychologist" and this or that. Your TROPHY. When I
mention that MY wife was a judge in Cuba, it is only to answer your
despicable claims of her being a "mail order bride." Although, Kunt, I am
EXTREMELY proud of her, not just that she is very pretty, but that she has
such a great mind, is so funny, and her smile can light up a room. Yes, Kunt
I am a very fortunate man to have her love me. I don't think that's
something you can understand. I think that exists on a spiritual plane
you'll never experience. You are too into THINGS.
>>That you are so OBSESSED with claiming ownership of VAST tracts of real
>>estate,
> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
Probably true because most SANE people know your claims of property
ownersip in Aruba etc are BULLSHIT!
>>fleets of luxury cars,
> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
Again BING! As you try to BRAG about your Bimmers and Mercedes, Kunt -
just about everone KNOWS you are lying.
>boats,
> You have me here. We own two boats. Hey, what ever became of the
> third boat you LIED and stated I
> owned? What is the third boat you LIE and claim I own?
What of the other boats? Let's see Kunt. So far on your BLOGS (you know
the ones you SWEAR you never had) you have shown at least FOUR different
boats. The white BOATS - the Blue one and the pontoon boat. TWO different
white boats Kunt. Vastly different hull designs.
>>planes
> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
Kunt - how MANY Piper J-3 Cubs do you think still fly in America? WHY is
it Kunt that the FAA doesn't seem to list YOU as the owner of ANY of them?
From the original TAYLOR in the early 1930's the nice little screwup proof
tail dragger till 1947 when production ended. Thousands were built, how many
survive? (Hint not many.) And as far as FAA records show, YOU are not among
the owners of one.Are they LYING? It's like the BOATS that show other pwople
owning them and the swimming pool.
>>etc stands as evidence of that.
> Your dishonest claims stand as PROOF that you are jealous and
> hope to gain some sort of fame by proxy.
> Your hope will never be realized, since I'll continue to expose
> your pathological lies.
Silly little Kunt jealous of what? Fictional boats? Fantasy land
holdings? Imaginary fleets of luxury cars? Not to mention airplanes? Why
doesn't the FAA show you as owning a Piper J-3 or variant?
>>Your obsessive need to VALIDATE yourself via EXTERNALS.
> You are the one who claims I own things I do not own.
No Kunt YOU are. Why does the FAA not list you as an aircraft owner?
>>Your desperate seeking of approval and
>>establishing your "WORTH" via THINGS is amusing Kunt. Not to mention your
>>pathetic pattern of trying to BULLY those who disagree with you.
> When have I bullied anyone other than bullies? Yes, I do bully
> you, because you prey on others, often when they
> are weakest.
You bully ANYONE who disagree with you. Gregg and others. You are a
PUNK Kunt!
>>Your psychological NEED to prove you are better than others by your
>>THINGS.
> Even if I had nothing, I'd still be your superior.
There you go Kunt. You prove my point.
>>When I retort that I have a 2008 Honda SUV it drives you CRAZY.
> So you lied when you claimed it was a 2008. I expect everyone
> knew that, but it's nice that you've admitted to it.
Nice post edit Kunt. It's a 2008.
>>You MUST try to prove I don't own one.
> Then explain why I've made no effort. And asking you to support your
> claim isn't an effort to prove you
> don't own it. But above you state it's a 2006 and NOT a 2008. You have
> proved
> you lied.
No Kunt it is a 2008 Honda NOT 2006.
>>And the door is open for me to keep playing with you.
No Kunt first it's NOT a door - it's your own FLY and you are playing
with YOURSELF!
Dan Sullivan
gposter
krp
"gposter" <gpo...@live.com> wrote in message
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<snip and LIE>
> No Kunt first it's NOT a door - it's your own FLY and you are playing with
> YOURSELF!
They call it INDECENT EXPOSURE Bobbbeee. A FLASHER. Implies NO "fantasy"
on my part at all. DISGUST! You can STARE if you like, I am sure Kunt will
like that.
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Still THINK you RUN the place, eh Danny boy?
Greegor
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a9bb7797-1dbe-4a07...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Still THINK you RUN the place, eh Danny boy?
Proud badass Dan Sullivan, reduced to
topic cop, posting "ot" over and over! LOL
Even his own hyena pack is ignoring his ""efforts"".
krp
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On Apr 17, 2:51 pm, " krp" <krp24...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a9bb7797-1dbe-4a07...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Still THINK you RUN the place, eh Danny boy?
< Proud badass Dan Sullivan, reduced to
< topic cop, posting "ot" over and over! LOL
Sullivan thinks of himself as the KING of not only ASCPS but ALL of
Usenet. Just some little New York street punk who is only BIG when he has
his GANG backing him up.
gposter
>
> - Show quoted text -
krp
> snip and LIE
> > No Kunt first it's NOT a door - it's your own FLY and you are playing
> > with YOURSELF!
How long have you been attracted to flashers Bobbeee?
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:pv3d045c2soen9e07...@4ax.com...
>
>>>> I don't have blogs. The closest you can get is on MySpace, and
>>>> there is no comment
>>>> about anything I or Lin own on it.
>
>>>> Why are you lying about this?
>
>> Kenny-Bob?
>
> I'm NOT but YOU ARE lying your ass off Kunt.
You are lying.
If you count MySpace (it's a stretch, but one could argue I have
a blog there), it would be only one. You wrote blogs (plural).
Of course, you think one equals a number greater than one, so
this should have been expected.
That aside, I've never mentioned anything I own on the MySpace
"blog."
You lied. Again.
You got caught. Again.
You're trying to lie your way out of it. Again.
You're failing. Again.
>The Youtube shit????? You
That's not a blog, stupid. It wouldn't even count as a vlog.
>put up the sites and take them down like bowel movements. Then you LIE your
>ass off about them,m except when you need to refer to them for some STUPID
>argument you are making at the moment and the next post you DENY them again.
When have I denied having a YouTube account?
>
>>>>>were crossposted by YOU initially to BRAG
>>>>>about all your VAST wealth and holdings.
>
>>>> Liar.
>
>>>> You lied and said I have a miserable life. I replied only to the
>>>> groups to which you posted the lie.
>
>>>But Kunt you DO have a miserable life.
>
>> Liar. My life is very good. That you are EXTREMELY jealous, as
>> PROVED by your psychological NEED to lie about what Lin and I own, is
>> your problem, not mine.
>
> So you say with your HUGE land holdings all over the world
What land ownings all over the world?
Again, the only place Lin and I own land is Iowa and Arkansas.
No rational person would call either huge.
We own a time share condo in Aruba, but no land.
Why, exactly, are you LYING about this?
>your MANY
>yachts,
What yachts (plural)? we don't own even one.
>planes,
What planes (plural)?
>fleets of LUXURY CARS
Two luxury cars do not make a fleet, simpleton.
And calling the BMW a luxury car is a stretch.
>and the rest when you NEED to validate
>yourself and your self worth.
Odd that you are the ONLY person to claim I own all of the above.
>Which you constantly do when you BRAG about
>externals. THINGS don't make for a happy life you frigging DUNCE!
True. But they do serve to PROVE you LIED.
>Nor does
>being a BULLY like you and your gay lover Moore on usenet.
Everyone knows you're gay and crushing on David. It really is
old news.
And no one cares. You can stop expressing your desires by
projection.
>Life, my dumb Polack
Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. Asians as well.
Your bigotry is well known and documented.
>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
Then my life is still better than yours.
I'm still married to my first wife.
My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
HATES you.
>by your relationship with God (or the universe if you will) that KARMA that
>you work on. NONE of which is present in your claims.
If Karma is presumed to be real, then clearly I'm doing what is
right.
>
> Here is something interesting for you to ponder. NOT that there is any
>realtic hope that you, Sullivan or Moore will EVER be able to understand it.
It's clear we understand more than you. We don't have to resort
to lies.
>How do you three creepa attack me?
With the truth. It's the one concept you truly hate above all
else.
>(Maybe I should include Roger and Kevin
>too.) You TRY to do that by attackling my wife and my children and
>grandchildren.
When have I attacked your wife, your children or your
grandchildren?
Be specific.
If you prefer, you may simply admit this is another of your lies.
>Not my house,
The one with the sink hole and other problems that you wanted to
hide from prospective buyers?
>my cars,
You can't decide what you own. Sometimes it's a 2008 SUV.
Sometimes it's a 2006.
>my TV sets.
Wow. You own a TV.
Do you think you're special?
>But attacking PEOPLE.
When?
>Attacking Joy for her website that dared to say something nice about me.
When have I, or anyone, attacked Joy?
By now you must be able to accept that Lost flat out LIED to you.
She posted the proof herself.
>Attacking my associates and clients.
When have I attacked any associate or client of yours?
>You see Kunt - those are things that I
>*HAVE* that YOU do NOT. Hence your "miserable life."
And yet my life is still far better than yours.
If you claim that my life is miserable is to be believed, then
how horrible is yours?
>You don't come back
>talking about how much you love your wife Kunt. You mention her as a
>posession,
You are the one who views his wife as a thing to be owned.
>"she's a psychologist" and this or that.
How, exactly, does mentioning her career make her an object?
Oh yeah, you see ALL women as objects.
>Your TROPHY.
Don't project your viewing women as property onto me.
>When I
>mention that MY wife was a judge in Cuba, it is only to answer your
>despicable claims of her being a "mail order bride."
When did I claim she was a mail order bride?
I did provide evidence that she COULD be, but pointed out the
evidence doesn't prove she is.
There may be evidence that she is. If there is, it's far more
work than I am willing to invest to seek it out.
I don't care if she is or not. I only wanted to prove you LIED
when you claimed it was impossible.
>Although, Kunt, I am
>EXTREMELY proud of her, not just that she is very pretty, but that she has
>such a great mind, is so funny, and her smile can light up a room. Yes, Kunt
>I am a very fortunate man to have her love me.
It's a shame your homosexual nature, as PROVED by your constant
homo-erotic references, means you can't love her back. Not in the way
a husband is supposed to love a wife.
>I don't think that's
>something you can understand. I think that exists on a spiritual plane
>you'll never experience. You are too into THINGS.
Following the Karma claim you made above, it's clear I understand
far better than you could every hope to.
>
>>>That you are so OBSESSED with claiming ownership of VAST tracts of real
>>>estate,
>
>> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>
> Probably true because most SANE people know your claims of property
>ownersip in Aruba etc are BULLSHIT!
>
We have a time share condo. You claimed "VAST tracts of real
estate."
Where have I ever claimed such?
>>>fleets of luxury cars,
>
>> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>
> Again BING! As you try to BRAG about your Bimmers and Mercedes, Kunt -
>just about everone KNOWS you are lying.
>
I have ONE BMW. Why do you see one as equaling a value greater
than one?
I don't own even one Mercedes. Never have. And I've never
claimed to own one.
Why do you LIE?
>>boats,
>
>> You have me here. We own two boats. Hey, what ever became of the
>> third boat you LIED and stated I
>> owned? What is the third boat you LIE and claim I own?
>
> What of the other boats? Let's see Kunt. So far on your BLOGS (you know
>the ones you SWEAR you never had) you have shown at least FOUR different
>boats. The white BOATS - the Blue one and the pontoon boat. TWO different
>white boats Kunt. Vastly different hull designs.
Do you mean the other boats at the dock?
Are you so disassociated from reality that you are
psychologically UNABLE to realize that other people own boats, and a
few of these other people own slips at the same dock as Lin and I?
We have only the two boats. I've never claimed ownership of any
others.
You really need to seek professional mental health care for your
obsessive NEED to lie. I'm being VERY serious.
>
>>>planes
>
>> You are the ONLY person to think I have such.
>
> Kunt - how MANY Piper J-3 Cubs do you think still fly in America?
Haven't a clue.
When has anyone claimed the plane is a J-3?
>WHY is
>it Kunt that the FAA doesn't seem to list YOU as the owner of ANY of them?
Since I've never claimed to own a J-3, you shouldn't find me, or
anyone in my family, listed as an owner.
>From the original TAYLOR in the early 1930's the nice little screwup proof
>tail dragger till 1947 when production ended. Thousands were built, how many
>survive? (Hint not many.) And as far as FAA records show, YOU are not among
>the owners of one.Are they LYING?
Probably not. But you have PROVED you ARE, since I've never
claimed ownership of a J-3.
>It's like the BOATS that show other pwople
>owning them and the swimming pool.
The boat isn't registered to the people Jonezie claims.
Again I ask you to prove I lied about the pool. This makes the
fifth, at least, time I've asked. You've been unable to prove I lied.
Little wonder, since I didn't lie.
>
>>>etc stands as evidence of that.
>
>> Your dishonest claims stand as PROOF that you are jealous and
>> hope to gain some sort of fame by proxy.
>> Your hope will never be realized, since I'll continue to expose
>> your pathological lies.
>
> Silly little Kunt jealous of what?
I have that which you desire.
A loving family (at least one of your daughter HATES you),
financial stability (you couldn't pay your creditors), and real
friends.
>Fictional boats?
So they didn't show up on the video?
>Fantasy land
>holdings?
We have a home in Iowa and Arkansas. Some rental properties and
a time share in Aruba.
Old news, actually.
>Imaginary fleets of luxury cars?
You are the only person to see Lin's Caddy (the only real LUXURY
car) as a fleet. But then, you do see one as being various values
greater than one.
>Not to mention airplanes?
There's only the one.
I understand that you think one equals many values greater than
one, but the truth is, one equals one.
>Why
>doesn't the FAA show you as owning a Piper J-3 or variant?
Probably because I don't own a J-3, and have never claimed I do.
Why are you LYING and stating I've claimed ownership of that
which I've not claimed? What is the specific mental illness you have
that FORCES you to lie about such things?
>
>>>Your obsessive need to VALIDATE yourself via EXTERNALS.
>
>> You are the one who claims I own things I do not own.
>
> No Kunt YOU are. Why does the FAA not list you as an aircraft owner?
It does. Not for the craft you LIE and claim I own, but for the
one Lin and I actually own. Although, it's actually owned by the
corporation.
>
>>>Your desperate seeking of approval and
>>>establishing your "WORTH" via THINGS is amusing Kunt. Not to mention your
>>>pathetic pattern of trying to BULLY those who disagree with you.
>
>> When have I bullied anyone other than bullies? Yes, I do bully
>> you, because you prey on others, often when they
>> are weakest.
>
> You bully ANYONE who disagree with you. Gregg and others. You are a
>PUNK Kunt!
I bully those who prey on the weak, or perceived weak. This is
why I bully you and Greg.
And Greg's more recent behavior regarding Roger's son shows he's
far more mentally ill than I ever dared think.
>
>>>Your psychological NEED to prove you are better than others by your
>>>THINGS.
>
>> Even if I had nothing, I'd still be your superior.
>
> There you go Kunt. You prove my point.
Your point was/is that I am your superior? Neat.
[Kenny-Bob's Post edit restored]
>
>>>When I retort that I have a 2006 Honda SUV it drives you CRAZY.
>
>> So you lied when you claimed it was a 2008. I expect everyone
>> knew that, but it's nice that you've admitted to it.
>
> Nice post edit Kunt. It's a 2008.
Then why did you write 2006?
And why did you post edit, then LIE and claim I did?
Here's a link to the post so that anyone who wishes can see
you're LYING. Again.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/79e2a3189d7789f9
>
>>>You MUST try to prove I don't own one.
>
>> Then explain why I've made no effort. And asking you to support your
>> claim isn't an effort to prove you
>> don't own it. But above you state it's a 2006 and NOT a 2008. You have
>> proved
>> you lied.
>
> No Kunt it is a 2008 Honda NOT 2006.
Then why did you claim 2006?
If it were a typo, you would have said so. You didn't. Clearly
you INTENTIONALY wrote 2006.
Which is the lie? 2006 or 2008?
This is mere curiosity on my part. It's clear you lied. Which
one doesn't really matter.
>
>>>And the door is open for me to keep playing with you.
>
> No Kunt first it's NOT a door - it's your own FLY and you are playing
>with YOURSELF!
>
You wrote that, stupid. You're replying to yourself.
--
Kent Wills
wrote:
I think everyone has accepted that Kenny-Bob is gay.
Why he feels the need to continue to prove it is anyone's guess.
--
Vegetarian: Indian word for lousy hunter.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> No Kunt first it's NOT a door - it's your own FLY and you are playing
>>> with YOURSELF!
> I think everyone has accepted that Kenny-Bob is gay.
> Why he feels the need to continue to prove it is anyone's guess.
But I am not the FLASHER here - YOU ARE!
krp
>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
> Then my life is still better than yours.
> I'm still married to my first wife.
> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
> HATES you.
And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW? Because your MASTER Moore claims
it? Or tell me Kunt do you ALSO claim to be speaking to her?
My REAL children don't hate me Kunt. The ones your BUDDY David Moore has
made up may. But my REAL kids and grandkids don't hate me at all.
>> Here is something interesting for you to ponder. NOT that there is any
>>realtic hope that you, Sullivan or Moore will EVER be able to understand
>>it.
> It's clear we understand more than you. We don't have to resort to
> lies.
That in itself is a LIE Kunt. Too many of your lies have been
exposed, not to mention your pal Moore's.
>>Not my house,
> The one with the sink hole and other problems that you wanted to
> hide from prospective buyers?
Did I? Your PROOF Kunt? Because MOORE said so? Your PROOF that there are
sinkholes on my property????? The Moore website again?
>>my cars,
> You can't decide what you own. Sometimes it's a 2008 SUV. Sometimes
> it's a 2006.
Nope it has always been a 2008. I traded a 2005 Chrysler 300 on it.
Your HERO Moore tried to "WARN" the dealer and new owners about that too!
GOD told him to!
>>Attacking Joy for her website that dared to say something nice about me.
> When have I, or anyone, attacked Joy?
Oh hell Kunt, your buddies wree on the poor woman like stink on a
garbage can DEMANDING she take down the "false endorsement" of me ans they
called it!
gposter
> "Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
TNKev
>
>
you sick bastard!
--
<Greg Hanson>
"http://www.stalkingbehavior.com/definiti.htm
Stalking is defined as "the willful, malicious and repeated
following and harassing of another person" (Meloy, 1998).
Kent Wills
Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:85nf04l20bo7pn4bk...@4ax.com...
>
>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>
>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>> HATES you.
>
> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
Yes, it's quite possible YOU set it up. There's no real way for
me to know.
>Because your MASTER Moore claims
>it?
Please cease projecting your fetishes onto me. That you seek a
master/slave relationship with David is really nobody's business.
>Or tell me Kunt do you ALSO claim to be speaking to her?
Nope. I've never written her, nor has she written me, other than
when I asked to be a MySpace friend and she accepted.
>My REAL children don't hate me Kunt.
It's been said Megan was your step-daughter.
>The ones your BUDDY David Moore has
>made up may. But my REAL kids and grandkids don't hate me at all.
Given that you consistently PROVE you hate all things true and
honest, I think you're lying. Again.
>
>>> Here is something interesting for you to ponder. NOT that there is any
>>>realtic hope that you, Sullivan or Moore will EVER be able to understand
>>>it.
>
>> It's clear we understand more than you. We don't have to resort to
>> lies.
>
> That in itself is a LIE Kunt. Too many of your lies have been
>exposed, not to mention your pal Moore's.
Odd that you've been unable to prove even one lie from me.
Actually, not so odd, since I've not lied.
If David has lied, I've yet to see you prove it.
>
>>>Not my house,
>
>> The one with the sink hole and other problems that you wanted to
>> hide from prospective buyers?
>
> Did I? Your PROOF Kunt? Because MOORE said so?
When you confirmed it.
>Your PROOF that there are
>sinkholes on my property????? The Moore website again?
If there is anything about your house on
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com about your house, I've not seen it.
>
>>>my cars,
>
>> You can't decide what you own. Sometimes it's a 2008 SUV. Sometimes
>> it's a 2006.
>
> Nope it has always been a 2008.
Then why did you claim it was a 2006? Had it been a typo, you
would have simply stated such and be done with it.
You opted to LIE and claim I did a post edit.
Since you didn't admit to making an error, your claim of its
being a 2006 MUST have been intentional.
Why did you LIE?
>I traded a 2005 Chrysler 300 on it.
>Your HERO Moore tried to "WARN" the dealer and new owners about that too!
>GOD told him to!
>
So you claim. Given how freely you LIE, then RUN from the proof
of your lies, I doubt what you're claiming is true.
However, I will examine any evidence you present.
>
>>>Attacking Joy for her website that dared to say something nice about me.
>
>> When have I, or anyone, attacked Joy?
>
> Oh hell Kunt, your buddies wree on the poor woman like stink on a
>garbage can DEMANDING she take down the "false endorsement" of me ans they
>called it!
>
No one attacked Joy. Heck, no one even contacted her.
No amount of your LYING will ever alter this simple truth.
I know I asked above, but why did you snip the parts where I once
again PROVE you are a liar? My guess is that it's because you could
no longer lie your way out of them, and had to RUN or admit the truth.
Is my guess correct? If not, what is the reason?
Kent Wills
How often do you have these fantasies about my being a flasher?
Wait, some things are better left unknown.
That you have a sexual fantasy about me being a flasher is
something best kept to yourself. Seriously.
krp
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:38:07 GMT, " krp" <krp2...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>
>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>> HATES you.
>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
What BLOG is that asswipe? And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
Because MOORE told you so?
> Yes, it's quite possible YOU set it up. There's no real way for me to
> know.
But in your best POLACK LOGIC you know things for sure and make
accuisations accordingly. And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover.
>>Or tell me Kunt do you ALSO claim to be speaking to her?
> Nope. I've never written her, nor has she written me, other than
> when I asked to be a MySpace friend and she accepted.
Oh really what's the URL for that blog?
>>My REAL children don't hate me Kunt.
> It's been said Megan was your step-daughter.
By your mentral master MOORE! Let me tell you the problem with his and
YOUR bullshit Kunt. When Megan was born there were some "problems" that
caused us to have to go to the genetics lab at the University Medican
School. Despite the ravings oif your LUNATIC BUDDY - DNA has a completely
different story to tell. Now your HERO, was challenged to do some things
that by the end of this post I will challenge YOU to as well to test just
how FULL of shit you are.
>>> The one with the sink hole and other problems that you wanted to
>>> hide from prospective buyers?
>> Did I? Your PROOF Kunt? Because MOORE said so?
> When you confirmed it.
Did I?
>>Your PROOF that there are sinkholes on my property????? The Moore website
>>again?
> If there is anything about your house on http://www.aboutken about
> your house, I've not seen it.
So WHERE have I confirmed it? Google link?
Now Kunt let's do this little challenge since you "CLAIM" to be on
Megan's "BUDDY LIST" and can freely speak to her. We'll do this little test
that the REAL Megan can easily answer.
1. What was the name of the CAT she had when she lived here?
2. What color (s) was that cat?
3. What was the name of the white dog we had?
4. What was the name of the black dog we had?
5. What breed of horse was her first horse?
6. Where did we get that horse
7. What kind of car (and color) did I drive at the time her mother and I
separated?
8. What was the name of the church we attended and where she went to
pre-school?
9. What was the name of the school she last attended?
Now Kunt, IF you are telling the truth and not LYING your fat little
Polack ass off like your buddy Moore does, you'll not make STUPID EXCUSES
and you'll ask her the answers. Of course if you are LYING again - you'll
find an excuse and duck out.
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7m6i04lnbsfi5ig00...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:38:07 GMT, " krp" <krp2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
>> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>
> Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
The truth was just too much for you.
It's OK. When you can no longer even pretend to hope to be able
to lie your way out of it, you ignore it. I think everyone accepts
this.
>
>>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>>
>>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>>> HATES you.
>
>>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
>
>> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
>
> What BLOG is that asswipe?
Once again, dullard, her MySpace blog.
Of course, after you kept harassing her on MySpace, she deleted
her account. Unless it was an account you set up as a ruse.
Either way, it's gone.
>And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
>Because MOORE told you so?
As I've stated many times before, it's possible you set it up as a
ruse. Not likely, but possible.
>
>> Yes, it's quite possible YOU set it up. There's no real way for me to
>> know.
>
> But in your best POLACK LOGIC
Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's really
no need for you to keep posting the proof of this.
>you know things for sure and make
>accuisations accordingly.
That the truth hurts is your issue to address.
>And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
>fan and GAY lover.
David is your gay lover?
I know you fantasize about such (you constantly offer the proof
of this), but I don't think your fantasy has become reality.
Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
gay lover:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/5e9545bceb1d3469
>
>>>Or tell me Kunt do you ALSO claim to be speaking to her?
>
>> Nope. I've never written her, nor has she written me, other than
>> when I asked to be a MySpace friend and she accepted.
>
> Oh really what's the URL for that blog?
Reading difficulties?
MySpace.
>
>>>My REAL children don't hate me Kunt.
>
>> It's been said Megan was your step-daughter.
>
> By your mentral master MOORE!
That you seek a master/slave relationship with David is your
business, not mine. Please stop projecting your desires onto others.
>Let me tell you the problem with his and
>YOUR bullshit Kunt. When Megan was born there were some "problems" that
>caused us to have to go to the genetics lab at the University Medican
>School. Despite the ravings oif your LUNATIC BUDDY - DNA has a completely
>different story to tell. Now your HERO, was challenged to do some things
>that by the end of this post I will challenge YOU to as well to test just
>how FULL of shit you are.
I wrote the truth. Deal with it.
>
>>>> The one with the sink hole and other problems that you wanted to
>>>> hide from prospective buyers?
>
>>> Did I? Your PROOF Kunt? Because MOORE said so?
>
>> When you confirmed it.
>
> Did I?
Yes. Shortly after he first posted the information.
>
>>>Your PROOF that there are sinkholes on my property????? The Moore website
>>>again?
>
Your post edit has been restored at no additional cost.
>> If there is anything about your house on http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com about
>> your house, I've not seen it.
>
> So WHERE have I confirmed it? Google link?
Usenet.
>
> Now Kunt let's do this little challenge since you "CLAIM" to be on
>Megan's "BUDDY LIST" and can freely speak to her. We'll do this little test
>that the REAL Megan can easily answer.
Why, exactly, do you LIE in EVERY post? What is the SPECIFIC
reason?
When you asked if I spoke with her, I replied with, " Nope. I've
never written her, nor has she written me, other than when I asked to
be a MySpace friend and she accepted."
Technically I could have spoken with her and simply not written
her. I should have written I've had no contact with her in any form
outside of the friend request.
Of course, you already knew that, since I've mentioned it in the
past. But that mental illness you have forced you to LIE.
What is the specific mental dysfunction you have the compels you
to LIE? Why are you UNABLE to be honest?
Serious questions.
>
>1. What was the name of the CAT she had when she lived here?
>
>2. What color (s) was that cat?
>
>3. What was the name of the white dog we had?
>
>4. What was the name of the black dog we had?
>
>5. What breed of horse was her first horse?
>
>6. Where did we get that horse
>
>7. What kind of car (and color) did I drive at the time her mother and I
>separated?
>
>8. What was the name of the church we attended and where she went to
>pre-school?
>
>9. What was the name of the school she last attended?
>
> Now Kunt, IF you are telling the truth and not LYING your fat little
>Polack ass off like your buddy Moore does, you'll not make STUPID EXCUSES
>and you'll ask her the answers. Of course if you are LYING again - you'll
>find an excuse and duck out.
>
What lie did I present? Are you claiming that when I stated I've
had no contact with Megan, outside of a MySpace friends request, I was
lying?
The truth is, aside from requesting she add me as a MySpace
friend, I've had NO contact with her. None. Nada.
No matter how many times you LIE and claim I've had additional
contact, the truth will remain the truth. And you will continue to
hate it, since your mental illness dictates that you MUST hate all
forms of truth.
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn LYING and claiming David Moore is his gay
lover. Message-ID: <_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
krp
>>> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
>>> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>> Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
> The truth was just too much for you.
The truth is okay for me. Your bullshit isn't.
> It's OK. When you can no longer even pretend to hope to be able
> to lie your way out of it, you ignore it. I think everyone accepts
> this.
Yous peak for "everyone" now Kunt?
>>>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>>>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
What is that necesarily an acomplishment? I know lots of people still
married to theirt first spouse wh live in hell.
>>>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>>>> HATES you.
>
>>>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
>>> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
>> What BLOG is that asswipe?
> Once again, dullard, her MySpace blog.
> Of course, after you kept harassing her on MySpace, she deleted
> her account. Unless it was an account you set up as a ruse.
> Either way, it's gone.
Oh so this mysterious site is now GONE..... And you claim it is because
of me. GOOD SELF SERVING SHOW Kunt.
>>And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
>>Because MOORE told you so?
> As I've stated many times before, it's possible you set it up as a
> ruse. Not likely, but possible.
If coould have set it up, who else could have set it up as a ruse
DIMBULB?
>>> Yes, it's quite possible YOU set it up. There's no real way for me
>>> to
>>> know.
>> But in your best POLACK LOGIC
> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's really
> no need for you to keep posting the proof of this.
Sorry actually I like 99% of the Polish people I have known. Just a FEW
Polacks like you I don't. But them my Polish friends don't like guys l;ike
you either and call you "dumb Polacks."
>>you know things for sure and make accusations accordingly.
> That the truth hurts is your issue to address.
Kunt you mistake your BELIEFS for the "truth." And they are NOT.
>>And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest fan and GAY lover.
> David is your gay lover?
Gay lover wannabe.
> Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
> heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
> And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
> link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
> gay lover:
Is that why he follows my every move? HAS to know the MOST intimate
details of my life? He can't abide the thought that I MIGHT sell my house
and move some place he can't find? Has a website about me he has invested
THOUSANDS of hours of his life into? That's not a "CASUAL" thin Kunt - it
WAY into OBSESSION! Read what he said just this morning - that he has a
"RIGHT" to know ALL the details of a POSSIBLE sale of my house even before
there even IS a sale because he has a "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT" to know this
stuff. That's NORMAL in your world Kunt? Do you see Moore stalking any
WOMEN Kunt? Does your buddy Moore say he has "AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking year
Kunt? What makes you think he's hetero instead of a flaming homo?
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
>
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:q06k04tbingf18b2i...@4ax.com...
>
>>>> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
>>>> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>
>>> Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
>
>> The truth was just too much for you.
>
> The truth is okay for me.
You absolutely HATE truth, as PROVED by your following sentence.
>Your bullshit isn't.
I posted truth that you couldn't lie your way around.
>
>> It's OK. When you can no longer even pretend to hope to be able
>> to lie your way out of it, you ignore it. I think everyone accepts
>> this.
>
>Yous peak for "everyone" now Kunt?
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
I wrote, "I think everyone..."
>
>>>>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>
>>>>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>>>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>
> What is that necesarily an acomplishment? I know lots of people still
>married to theirt first spouse wh live in hell.
Wow. It only took you 48 hours to reply to that comment.
>
>>>>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>>>>> HATES you.
>>
>>>>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
>
>>>> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
>
>>> What BLOG is that asswipe?
>
>> Once again, dullard, her MySpace blog.
>> Of course, after you kept harassing her on MySpace, she deleted
>> her account. Unless it was an account you set up as a ruse.
>> Either way, it's gone.
>
> Oh so this mysterious site is now GONE.....
It wasn't mysterious.
>And you claim it is because
>of me.
You are the only suspect.
>GOOD SELF SERVING SHOW Kunt.
>
What terminology you wish to call truth is up to you.
>>>And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
>>>Because MOORE told you so?
>
>> As I've stated many times before, it's possible you set it up as a
>> ruse. Not likely, but possible.
>
> If coould have set it up, who else could have set it up as a ruse
>DIMBULB?
Anyone could have, but you have and had the only motivation.
Personally, I think she set it up and it was 100% genuine. But
that's simply what I think. It's still possible you did it.
>
>>>> Yes, it's quite possible YOU set it up. There's no real way for me
>>>> to
>>>> know.
>
>>> But in your best POLACK LOGIC
>
>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's really
>> no need for you to keep posting the proof of this.
>
> Sorry actually I like 99% of the Polish people I have known.
Why do you lie?
>Just a FEW
>Polacks like you I don't. But them my Polish friends don't like guys l;ike
>you either and call you "dumb Polacks."
You HATE everyone in/from Poland. This is already accepted. As
such, you don't have any Polish friends.
>
>>>you know things for sure and make accusations accordingly.
>
>> That the truth hurts is your issue to address.
>
> Kunt you mistake your BELIEFS for the "truth." And they are NOT.
If I believe something, I state so. If I know something, I state
so.
>
>>>And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest fan and GAY lover.
>
>> David is your gay lover?
>
> Gay lover wannabe.
That you want him for your gay lover is old news, actually.
>
>> Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
>> heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
>> And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
>> link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
>> gay lover:
>
> Is that why he follows my every move?
Prove that he does.
>HAS to know the MOST intimate
>details of my life?
Prove that he does.
>He can't abide the thought that I MIGHT sell my house
>and move some place he can't find?
You ORDERED him to find the information.
>Has a website about me he has invested
>THOUSANDS of hours of his life into?
Thousands?
Never actually designed a web site, huh? It doesn't take very
long.
>That's not a "CASUAL" thin Kunt -
I don't think it has anything to do with vaginas, thin or think.
>it
>WAY into OBSESSION! Read what he said just this morning - that he has a
>"RIGHT" to know ALL the details of a POSSIBLE sale of my house even before
>there even IS a sale because he has a "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT" to know this
>stuff.
That was YOUR claim.
>That's NORMAL in your world Kunt? Do you see Moore stalking any
>WOMEN Kunt?
I don't see him stalking anyone.
He did as you wanted. You told him to seek out the information
about you, and he did so.
>Does your buddy Moore say he has "AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL
He's not my buddy, and no amount of your lying will change this.
>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking year
>Kunt?
He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
you ORDERED him to find information about you.
>What makes you think he's hetero instead of a flaming homo?
>
Comments he's made.
I could be wrong. As I stated, only David can say with
certainty.
Why didn't you address the remainder of my post? Was the truth
that I have never claimed to be in contact with Megan too much for
you? Do you hope that by ignoring it, no one will realize you LIED
and claimed I speak with her, when you knew (and know) I have NO
communication with her at all?
It's not going to work.
You lied.
You got caught.
Deal with it.
>>
>> I know you fantasize about such (you constantly offer the proof
>>of this), but I don't think your fantasy has become reality.
>> Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
>>heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
>> And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
>>link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
>>gay lover:
>>
--
freedom
If one adds up the hours spent authoring http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com,
it would probably still come out to less time than Ken spends posting on
usenet during a single week.
>
>>That's not a "CASUAL" thin Kunt -
>
> I don't think it has anything to do with vaginas, thin or think.
>
>>it
>>WAY into OBSESSION! Read what he said just this morning - that he has a
>>"RIGHT" to know ALL the details of a POSSIBLE sale of my house even before
>>there even IS a sale because he has a "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT" to know this
>>stuff.
>
> That was YOUR claim.
And it's false....I never said anything of the sort.
>
>>That's NORMAL in your world Kunt? Do you see Moore stalking any
>>WOMEN Kunt?
>
> I don't see him stalking anyone.
Ken's just projecting again.
> He did as you wanted. You told him to seek out the information
>about you, and he did so.
>
>>Does your buddy Moore say he has "AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL
>
> He's not my buddy, and no amount of your lying will change this.
>
>>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking year
>>Kunt?
>
> He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
>you ORDERED him to find information about you.
I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
ingrate.
>
>>What makes you think he's hetero instead of a flaming homo?
>>
>
> Comments he's made.
> I could be wrong. As I stated, only David can say with
>certainty.
Not to mention the fact that Ken himself, claims that I've been engaged to
two different women in the past year. One of whom lives 1500 miles away,
yet he claims to have photos of me with. This would mean that I had met
her in person, which would have required investment of significant time and
money (keep in mind that Ken also claims that I am unemployed and that I
spend hundreds of hours per week working on
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com)...someone who isn't into women probably
wouldn't go to such effort, I wouldn't think? :)
>
>
> Why didn't you address the remainder of my post? Was the truth
>that I have never claimed to be in contact with Megan too much for
>you? Do you hope that by ignoring it, no one will realize you LIED
>and claimed I speak with her, when you knew (and know) I have NO
>communication with her at all?
> It's not going to work.
>
> You lied.
> You got caught.
> Deal with it.
>
>
>"We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
> --Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting, from an argument with a
>woman on the talk.rape newsgroup
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
>>>>> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>>
>>>> Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
>>
>>> The truth was just too much for you.
>>
>> The truth is okay for me.
>
> You absolutely HATE truth, as PROVED by your following sentence.
>
>>Your bullshit isn't.
> I posted truth that you couldn't lie your way around.
how's your FEELT there ADMIRAL?
>>> It's OK. When you can no longer even pretend to hope to be able
>>> to lie your way out of it, you ignore it. I think everyone accepts
>>> this.
>>You speak for "everyone" now Kunt?
> Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
> I wrote, "I think everyone..."
Based on what contact with "EVERYONE" Kunt?
>>>>>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>>>>>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>>>>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>>
>> What is that necesarily an acomplishment? I know lots of people still
>>married to theirt first spouse who live in hell.
> Wow. It only took you 48 hours to reply to that comment.
Was this a "TIMED TEST" Kunt?
>>>>>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>>>>>> HATES you.
>>>
>>>>>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
>>
>>>>> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
>>
>>>> What BLOG is that asswipe?
>>> Once again, dullard, her MySpace blog.
>>> Of course, after you kept harassing her on MySpace, she deleted
>>> her account. Unless it was an account you set up as a ruse.
>>> Either way, it's gone.
>> Oh so this mysterious site is now GONE.....
> It wasn't mysterious.
Wasn't it? Buit it is now VAPOR............. Hhhhhhhhhh what a
coinkydink!
>>And you claim it is because of me.
> You are the only suspect.
For what? Moore can't be a suspect?
>>GOOD SELF SERVING SHOW Kunt.
> What terminology you wish to call truth is up to you.
Kunt the reason folks call you a "Stupid Polack" (I'm NOT the only one)
is because you your bullshit belief that you are telling the truth as you
spread your BULLSHIT! Kunt let me give you a simultude. You are like a
former participant in soc.men,m a feminazi by the name of Stacy Alexander.
She, like you could pound out more bullshit in 5 minutes on her keyboard
that all the other users combined. She would rant on and on and on about the
emedemic of wife beating in America on Superbowl Sunday. How just millions
of women were battered on that day every year. She gave statistics, pretty
much like you do, and claimed that the "truth hurt" just like YOU do. The
problem is that her "statistics" like most of your posts were PURE BUNK like
most of yours in most of your posts. Happy B ULLSHIT you just make up. YOPU
declare it to be the ULTIMATE TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSE, but - Kunt - - it's
BULLSHIT. You just try to drown out everyone who tells you it is.
>>>>And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
>>>>Because MOORE told you so?
>
>>> As I've stated many times before, it's possible you set it up as a
>>> ruse. Not likely, but possible.
>> If could have set it up, who else could have set it up as a ruse
>> DIMBULB?
> Anyone could have, but you have and had the only motivation.
> Personally, I think she set it up and it was 100% genuine. But
> that's simply what I think. It's still possible you did it.
Oh REALLY? David Moore has NO motiove? He's JESUS as his website about
me PROVES? It's still possible I killed cock robin too. IN YOUR FANTASY
WORLD.
>>> Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
>>> heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
>>> And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
>>> link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
>>> gay lover:
>> Is that why he follows my every move?
> Prove that he does.
Look at his website. Look at his MANIC OBSESSION with getting ALL the
details on the potential sale of my house. NORMAL people do that?
>>HAS to know the MOST intimate details of my life?
> Prove that he does.
Don't you think the obsession with demanding to know the details about
my house being listed for sale is proof by itself? id YOU feel compelled to
scan the fir sale listing in my area EVERY DAY Kunt? Much less every HOUR of
every day?
>>He can't abide the thought that I MIGHT sell my house
>>and move some place he can't find?
> You ORDERED him to find the information.
No Kunt - I was TAUNTING HIM to find the details. Details he is STILL
manicly attempting to get. It's driving the poor boy NUTS. He is absolutely
beside himself. He's SURE I sold the house. He's bleeding from the ass
because he can't get the details. I bet there isn't an unbroken dish in his
momma's house or a wall that doesn't have a hole from his fists. He is SURE
the house has been sold. He is just shaking with his insane NEED to know WHO
may have bought the house so he can CALL them! He has to "WARN" them. GOD
told him to! He, like you isn't smart enpough to see he's been SET UP to
implode. I am enjoying every second of the little prick going NUTS. Your
little side show is merely amusing. I am having so much fun watching Moore
run all over the place.This is better than Hollywood. You know Junt some
other people are getting a kick out of it too. Watching Davey melt down. Him
and his "COALITION FORCES."
>>Has a website about me he has invested THOUSANDS of hours of his life
>>into?
> Thousands?
Yep. Maybe tens of thousands. His "RESEARCH" alone consumes a day every
day. Not to mention his search engine placement game. This isn't just using
the free search engine services, this is dedicated evvert EVERY DAY of the
week to get the #1 listing in over a thousand categories. EVERY DAY of EVERY
WEEK for a DECADE Kunt. This is taking OBSESSION to a new level.
> Never actually designed a web site, huh? It doesn't take very long.
How many pages Kunt? How many revisions? Over 100 revisons.
>> it WAY into OBSESSION! Read what he said just this morning - that he has
>> a
>>"RIGHT" to know ALL the details of a POSSIBLE sale of my house even before
>>there even IS a sale because he has a "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT" to know this
>>stuff.
> That was YOUR claim.
No - it was HIS as he tore into the staff at the realty company
DEMANDING to know and threatening lawsuits for denial of his "CONSTTUTIUONAL
RIGHTS." His "ABSOLUTRE LEGAL RIGHT" to EVERTYTHING. He demands the "listing
contract" for his LEGAL REVIEW for him and his STAFF of lawyers, and any and
all other docvuments pertaining to "the Pangborn house." and you even
agreed that he HAS such a LEGAL RIGHT! You are as big a LOON as HE is. He
has NO rights whatsoever with regard to MY house. NONE! Not a single one
Kunt.
>>Does your buddy Moore say he has "AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL
> He's not my buddy, and no amount of your lying will change this.
Sure he is Kunt.
>>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking
>>year
>>Kunt?
> He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
> you ORDERED him to find information about you.
Nope BEFORE he admitted THAT moron.
>>What makes you think he's hetero instead of a flaming homo?
> Comments he's made. I could be wrong. As I stated, only David can
> say with
> certainty.
Don't you think it STRANGE he is following a MAN around and demanding to
know everything about his life? Doesn't that creep you out just a little?
>>>> Serious questions.
>>>>1. What was the name of the CAT she had when she lived here?
>>>>
>>>>2. What color (s) was that cat?
>>>>
>>>>3. What was the name of the white dog we had?
>>>>
>>>>4. What was the name of the black dog we had?
>>>>
>>>>5. What breed of horse was her first horse?
>>>>
>>>>6. Where did we get that horse
>>>>
>>>>7. What kind of car (and color) did I drive at the time her mother and I
>>>>separated?
>>>>
>>>>8. What was the name of the church we attended and where she went to
>>>>pre-school?
>>>>
>>>>9. What was the name of the school she last attended?
>>>>
>>>> Now Kunt, IF you are telling the truth and not LYING your fat little
>>>>Polack ass off like your buddy Moore does, you'll not make STUPID
>>>>EXCUSES
>>>>and you'll ask her the answers. Of course if you are LYING again -
>>>>you'll
>>>>find an excuse and duck out.
>>> What lie did I present? Are you claiming that when I stated I've
>>>had no contact with Megan, outside of a MySpace friends request, I was
>>>lying?
Oh so you ADMIT that the only stuff you know comes from Moore and some
myspace blog that was allegedly up a couple years ago.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:55cd572de53382d8...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>>>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking
>>>year
>>>Kunt?
>> He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
>>you ORDERED him to find information about you.
> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
> ingrate.
What orders Davey? You had alrteady been hassling the real estate agents
for DAYS before I mentioned it here. I was and AM taunting you to find the
information you are POSITIVE is there. You are SURE the house HAS been sold
and that you can't get the details is driving you NUTS. (Short trip, you
have been there for 2 decades.)
Poor Davey so SURE I sold the house and so HYSTERICAL that he CANNOT get
the detains he believes he's "legally entitled to!"
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
>ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v8gl049vhkphj4ho2...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>> Why did you snip away the rest of my post? Do you think no one
>>>>>> will ever see how I once again exposed you as the LIAR you are?
>>>
>>>>> Quit patting yourself on the back Kunt. You'll get a headache.
>>>
>>>> The truth was just too much for you.
>>>
>>> The truth is okay for me.
>>
>> You absolutely HATE truth, as PROVED by your following sentence.
>>
>>>Your bullshit isn't.
>
>> I posted truth that you couldn't lie your way around.
>
> how's your FEELT there ADMIRAL?
I don't have a FEELT (whatever that is) and I'm not an admiral.
Why do you consistently LIE about what I am? Is your psychosis
that bad?
>
>>>> It's OK. When you can no longer even pretend to hope to be able
>>>> to lie your way out of it, you ignore it. I think everyone accepts
>>>> this.
>
>>>You speak for "everyone" now Kunt?
>
>> Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
>> I wrote, "I think everyone..."
>
> Based on what contact with "EVERYONE" Kunt?
You still can't comprehend simple English.
I suggest a remedial reading class.
>
>>>>>>>>>is validated by the people who love you and who you love in return,
>
>>>>>>>> Then my life is still better than yours.
>>>>>>>> I'm still married to my first wife.
>>>
>>> What is that necesarily an acomplishment? I know lots of people still
>>>married to theirt first spouse who live in hell.
>
>> Wow. It only took you 48 hours to reply to that comment.
>
> Was this a "TIMED TEST" Kunt?
>
I wasn't aware that vaginas were tested with time.
Care to elaborate on this?
>>>>>>>> My children don't hate me, the way Megan, if not the others,
>>>>>>>> HATES you.
>>>>
>>>>>>> And you "know" that Megan hates me HOW?
>>>
>>>>>> I've read her blog. I've mentioned this before.
>>>
>>>>> What BLOG is that asswipe?
>
>>>> Once again, dullard, her MySpace blog.
>>>> Of course, after you kept harassing her on MySpace, she deleted
>>>> her account. Unless it was an account you set up as a ruse.
>>>> Either way, it's gone.
>
>>> Oh so this mysterious site is now GONE.....
>
>> It wasn't mysterious.
>
> Wasn't it?
No.
>Buit it is now VAPOR............. Hhhhhhhhhh what a
>coinkydink!
I can't know the reason, but your constant harassment of her is a
plausible explanation.
>
>>>And you claim it is because of me.
>
>> You are the only suspect.
>
> For what? Moore can't be a suspect?
For what? Are you really so detached from reality that you can't
understand the thread?
>
>>>GOOD SELF SERVING SHOW Kunt.
>
>> What terminology you wish to call truth is up to you.
>
> Kunt the reason folks call you a "Stupid Polack" (I'm NOT the only one)
Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. Old news.
>is because you your bullshit belief that you are telling the truth as you
>spread your BULLSHIT! Kunt let me give you a simultude. You are like a
>former participant in soc.men,m a feminazi by the name of Stacy Alexander.
>She, like you could pound out more bullshit in 5 minutes on her keyboard
>that all the other users combined. She would rant on and on and on about the
>emedemic of wife beating in America on Superbowl Sunday.
Was she the one who motivated you to tell men to beat their wives?
>How just millions
>of women were battered on that day every year. She gave statistics, pretty
>much like you do, and claimed that the "truth hurt" just like YOU do.
You consistently PROVE that truth hurts you a great deal.
>The
>problem is that her "statistics" like most of your posts were PURE BUNK like
>most of yours in most of your posts. Happy B ULLSHIT you just make up.
Prove I've made anything up.
>YOPU
>declare it to be the ULTIMATE TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSE,
Liar.
Cite one time where I've made such a claim.
>but - Kunt - - it's
>BULLSHIT. You just try to drown out everyone who tells you it is.
That would be you, when you aren't RUNNING from the truth.
>
>>>>>And how are you SURE it is actually HERS?????
>>>>>Because MOORE told you so?
>>
>>>> As I've stated many times before, it's possible you set it up as a
>>>> ruse. Not likely, but possible.
>
>>> If could have set it up, who else could have set it up as a ruse
>>> DIMBULB?
>
>> Anyone could have, but you have and had the only motivation.
>> Personally, I think she set it up and it was 100% genuine. But
>> that's simply what I think. It's still possible you did it.
>
> Oh REALLY?
Yes.
If you have evidence that shows it's impossible for you to have
done it, present it. I'll examine it.
>David Moore has NO motiove? He's JESUS as his website about
>me PROVES?
His site does no such thing.
>It's still possible I killed cock robin too.
I let you in on a secret. It's a child's NURSERY rhyme. It's
not a true story, dullard.
Besides, the sparrow confessed to it in the nursery rhyme.
>IN YOUR FANTASY
>WORLD.
You think a character from a FITCIONAL nursery rhyme is real.
Clearly you live in a fantasy world, but I don't think anyone has ever
argued against this.
>
>>>> Only David can say with certainty, but I get the impression he's
>>>> heterosexual. As such, he wouldn't be interested in you.
>>>> And before you can LIE and claim I did a post edit, here's the
>>>> link to your post where anyone who wishes can see you claim he is your
>>>> gay lover:
>
>>> Is that why he follows my every move?
>
>> Prove that he does.
>
> Look at his website. Look at his MANIC OBSESSION with getting ALL the
>details on the potential sale of my house. NORMAL people do that?
>
There is nothing about the sale of your house on
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Wanna try a new lie?
>>>HAS to know the MOST intimate details of my life?
>
>> Prove that he does.
>
> Don't you think the obsession with demanding to know the details about
>my house being listed for sale is proof by itself? id YOU feel compelled to
>scan the fir sale listing in my area EVERY DAY Kunt? Much less every HOUR of
>every day?
Trying to cover up your lie with more lies isn't impressing me.
Either offer the proof or admit you lied. I'll accept either.
>
>>>He can't abide the thought that I MIGHT sell my house
>>>and move some place he can't find?
>
>> You ORDERED him to find the information.
>
> No Kunt -
OK, you DEMANDED.
It's a matter of semantics.
>I was TAUNTING HIM to find the details. Details he is STILL
>manicly attempting to get. It's driving the poor boy NUTS. He is absolutely
>beside himself. He's SURE I sold the house.
If you had, it wouldn't be listed as For Sale on the real estate
site.
>He's bleeding from the ass
>because he can't get the details.
Do you often think of David's ass?
Never mind. You've proved you want him as your gay lover, so of
course you do.
Presuming for the moment that he is gay, or bi, it's clear he has
NO romantic interest in you. None. He'll NEVER accept your attempts
at enticing him into a romantic relationship.
You'll enjoy more luck at a near-by gay bar.
>I bet there isn't an unbroken dish in his
>momma's house or a wall that doesn't have a hole from his fists.
Considering his mother is dead, I doubt it.
>He is SURE
>the house has been sold.
He's posted nothing that I've seen to indicate that.
>He is just shaking with his insane NEED to know WHO
>may have bought the house so he can CALL them! He has to "WARN" them. GOD
>told him to! He, like you isn't smart enpough to see he's been SET UP to
>implode. I am enjoying every second of the little prick going NUTS. Your
>little side show is merely amusing. I am having so much fun watching Moore
>run all over the place.This is better than Hollywood. You know Junt some
>other people are getting a kick out of it too. Watching Davey melt down. Him
>and his "COALITION FORCES."
There is no coalition.
You need to accept that you are NOT important enough to have a
massive conspiracy formed against you.
I understand that your mental illness FORCES you to believe there
is, but the simple truth is, there is not. Accept this and move on
with your life.
>
>>>Has a website about me he has invested THOUSANDS of hours of his life
>>>into?
>
>> Thousands?
>
> Yep. Maybe tens of thousands.
Very unlikely.
>His "RESEARCH" alone consumes a day every
>day.
Which would leave no time for him to call various people about
you.
You can't maintain a lie within a single post.
>Not to mention his search engine placement game. This isn't just using
>the free search engine services, this is dedicated evvert EVERY DAY of the
>week to get the #1 listing in over a thousand categories. EVERY DAY of EVERY
>WEEK for a DECADE Kunt. This is taking OBSESSION to a new level.
>
Do you know how long it takes to submit a URL to a search engine?
A few seconds, if one types slow, at most.
>> Never actually designed a web site, huh? It doesn't take very long.
>
> How many pages Kunt? How many revisions? Over 100 revisons.
Presumably when another major Kenneth Robert Pangborn con is
exposed, it warrants being added to the site. However, it doesn't
take thousands of hours.
And I've not seen any changes to the site since I first became
aware of it.
>
>>> it WAY into OBSESSION! Read what he said just this morning - that he has
>>> a
>>>"RIGHT" to know ALL the details of a POSSIBLE sale of my house even before
>>>there even IS a sale because he has a "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT" to know this
>>>stuff.
>
>> That was YOUR claim.
>
> No
Yes. You alone are claiming any sort of *Constitutional* right.
>- it was HIS as he tore into the staff at the realty company
>DEMANDING to know and threatening lawsuits for denial of his "CONSTTUTIUONAL
>RIGHTS."
Prove it.
>His "ABSOLUTRE LEGAL RIGHT" to EVERTYTHING. He demands the "listing
>contract" for his LEGAL REVIEW for him and his STAFF of lawyers, and any and
>all other docvuments pertaining to "the Pangborn house."
Prove it.
>and you even
>agreed that he HAS such a LEGAL RIGHT!
If the information is public, which house sales are, then anyone
who wants may look up the information.
It's not always convenient to do, but there is nothing preventing
one from doing so.
>You are as big a LOON as HE is. He
>has NO rights whatsoever with regard to MY house. NONE! Not a single one
>Kunt.
Since sales are public information, he has the same right as
anyone else to see the information.
You may wish your home being put up for sale was/is a state
secret, but the truth is, it's not. You aren't that important.
>
>>>Does your buddy Moore say he has "AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL
>
>> He's not my buddy, and no amount of your lying will change this.
>
> Sure he is Kunt.
Nope.
We've had very few Usenet discussions and zero discussions
outside of Usenet. I've had more discussions with you on and off
Usenet than I have with David.
You can LIE all your mentally ill mind requires, but the truth
will remain the truth.
>
>>>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>>>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking
>>>year
>>>Kunt?
>
>> He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
>> you ORDERED him to find information about you.
>
>Nope BEFORE he admitted THAT moron.
You ordered him to find it before he admitted he found it.
At least we can agree on that.
>
>>>What makes you think he's hetero instead of a flaming homo?
>
>> Comments he's made. I could be wrong. As I stated, only David can
>> say with
>> certainty.
>
> Don't you think it STRANGE he is following a MAN around and demanding to
>know everything about his life? Doesn't that creep you out just a little?
>
No more so than your LIE that David is your gay lover.
I accept that you really WANT David as your lover, but I don't
think he actually is your gay lover.
Why, exactly, in MID MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06, did you claim David
is your gay lover when he's not?
I've asked before and all you did was claim you want him as your
gay lover.
That you want him as such isn't a big deal. He doesn't appear to
care that you have a crush on him. However, declaring that he is your
lover when he is not only served, and serves, to further prove you
have a serious mental illness.
>>>>> Serious questions.
>
>>>>>1. What was the name of the CAT she had when she lived here?
>>>>>
>>>>>2. What color (s) was that cat?
>>>>>
>>>>>3. What was the name of the white dog we had?
>>>>>
>>>>>4. What was the name of the black dog we had?
>>>>>
>>>>>5. What breed of horse was her first horse?
>>>>>
>>>>>6. Where did we get that horse
>>>>>
>>>>>7. What kind of car (and color) did I drive at the time her mother and I
>>>>>separated?
>>>>>
>>>>>8. What was the name of the church we attended and where she went to
>>>>>pre-school?
>>>>>
>>>>>9. What was the name of the school she last attended?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now Kunt, IF you are telling the truth and not LYING your fat little
>>>>>Polack ass off like your buddy Moore does, you'll not make STUPID
>>>>>EXCUSES
>>>>>and you'll ask her the answers. Of course if you are LYING again -
>>>>>you'll
>>>>>find an excuse and duck out.
>
>>>> What lie did I present? Are you claiming that when I stated I've
>>>>had no contact with Megan, outside of a MySpace friends request, I was
>>>>lying?
>
> Oh so you ADMIT that the only stuff you know comes from Moore and some
>myspace blog that was allegedly up a couple years ago.
>
>
The site was up a few months ago. Another Kenneth Robert
Pangborn LIE to add to the ever growing list.
You're lie aside, I stated that I had no contact with Megan,
outside of a MySpace friend request, from the beginning.
Why did you LIE and claim I was in further contact with her?
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kent Wills
>
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:55cd572de53382d8...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>>>>RIGHT" to know about the potential sale of HER house? Does he GOOGLE her
>>>>address EVERY fukkkkking day of EVERY fukkkking week of every fukkking
>>>>year
>>>>Kunt?
>
>>> He's admitted to Googleing your address once. And it was AFTER
>>>you ORDERED him to find information about you.
>
>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>> ingrate.
>
> What orders Davey?
You ordered David to find the new about you.
>You had alrteady been hassling the real estate agents
>for DAYS before I mentioned it here.
There is NO evidence to support such a claim.
>I was and AM taunting you to find the
>information you are POSITIVE is there.
You demanded he find the information he found.
>You are SURE the house HAS been sold
I've seen nothing from him to indicate such.
>and that you can't get the details is driving you NUTS. (Short trip, you
>have been there for 2 decades.)
>
> Poor Davey so SURE I sold the house and so HYSTERICAL that he CANNOT get
>the detains he believes he's "legally entitled to!"
>
They are matters of public record. As such, he can see the
information, if he wishes. Anyone can.
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
gposter
krp
>>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>>> ingrate.
>>
>> What orders Davey?
>
> You ordered David to find the new about you.
But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a for
sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
have made an offer. If Davey doesn't find it by the end of this week he will
slit his own throat. What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet? What
is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the COALITION
FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT! Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
He has satellite surveillance up. Straining to see license plate numbers on
cars parked outside. He has little fatty reporting in HOURLY. Poor kid
hasn't slept in 2 weeks. The KLAXONS are still going off in nutcase MOORE'S
basement bunker. And *I* am having a BALL watching the little son of a bitch
go NUTS.
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:m9an04ha8civ9f6oh...@4ax.com...
>>>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>>>> ingrate.
>>>
>>> What orders Davey?
>>
>> You ordered David to find the new about you.
>
> But he hasn't found the INFO yet.
Yes he has. He found that you're selling your house. Just as
you demanded he do.
>He already KNEW that there was a for
>sale sign up.
Prove he knew it before he followed your demand that he find the
information about you.
>What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
Pretending for a moment that he does want to know the names of
anyone interested, I doubt he would die if he wasn't told.
Can you offer anything to support your claim that his life depends
on knowing?
Didn't think so.
>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>have made an offer. If Davey doesn't find it by the end of this week he will
>slit his own throat.
Well, we shall see if he's still posting on Sunday. If he is, we
can be certain that he found out or you lied.
I'd go with you lying, but others might opt for the other option.
>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet? What
>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the COALITION
>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
such. Accept this and move on with your life.
>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
Starting with his own, unless you lied.
>He has satellite surveillance up.
Prove it.
>Straining to see license plate numbers on
>cars parked outside.
Prove it.
>He has little fatty reporting in HOURLY.
How would you know? Have you put an illegal tap on her phone
line?
Oh wait, you're lying. Again. Or should I state, still?
>Poor kid
>hasn't slept in 2 weeks. The KLAXONS are still going off in nutcase MOORE'S
>basement bunker. And *I* am having a BALL watching the little son of a bitch
>go NUTS.
>
The only person displaying indicators of mental stability between
the two of you is YOU.
Do you actually believe the stuff you post, or do you realize how
off the wall your lies really are?
freedom
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, " krp" <krp2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:m9an04ha8civ9f6oh...@4ax.com...
>>>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>>>> ingrate.
>>>
>>> What orders Davey?
>>
>> You ordered David to find the new about you.
>
> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a for
>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>have made an offer.
Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will be
recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you haven't
disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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freedom
Add megalomania to Ken's many mental disorders (multiple personality
disorder, Fregoli, sociopathy, etc.)
>
>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet? What
>>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the COALITION
>>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>
> There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
>such. Accept this and move on with your life.
>
>>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
>
> Starting with his own, unless you lied.
Reminds me of a joke:
Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
They're laughing and having a good old time, ignoring Ken completely. He
takes his gun out of his drawer and holds it up to his own head. They're
still laughing. Ken says "What are you laughing for? You're next."
>
>>He has satellite surveillance up.
>
> Prove it.
>
>>Straining to see license plate numbers on
>>cars parked outside.
>
> Prove it.
>
>>He has little fatty reporting in HOURLY.
>
> How would you know? Have you put an illegal tap on her phone
>line?
> Oh wait, you're lying. Again. Or should I state, still?
>
>>Poor kid
>>hasn't slept in 2 weeks. The KLAXONS are still going off in nutcase MOORE'S
>>basement bunker. And *I* am having a BALL watching the little son of a bitch
>>go NUTS.
>>
>
> The only person displaying indicators of mental stability between
>the two of you is YOU.
> Do you actually believe the stuff you post, or do you realize how
>off the wall your lies really are?
I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
they're buying into.
>
>"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
>fan and GAY lover."
> Kenneth Robert Pangborn LYING and claiming David Moore is his gay
>lover. Message-ID: <_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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krp
>>>>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>>>>> ingrate.
>>>>
>>>> What orders Davey?
>
>>> You ordered David to find the new about you.
>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet.
> Yes he has. He found that you're selling your house. Just as
> you demanded he do.
Look you demented Polack. All he knows is that it is LISTED. But he knew
that DAYS before I posted anything. He was sending me blackmail for days
before I posted on my list about it. The MORON still hasn't figured out
he's being played like a cheap dime store harmonica. ALl he knows is that I
*MIGHT* be moving and his HAS to know the details. And that this is another
opportunity to STALK and HARASS me.
>>He already KNEW that there was a for
>>sale sign up.
> Prove he knew it before he followed your demand that he find the
> information about you.
Golly would you accept his e-mails to me at my regular address where he
was *DEMANDING* $5,000 to keep quiet about it? I bet NOT.
>>What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
> Pretending for a moment that he does want to know the names of
> anyone interested, I doubt he would die if he wasn't told.
You underestimate his level of OBSESSION.
> Can you offer anything to support your claim that his life depends
> on knowing? Didn't think so.
Nothing that YOU would accept Mr. TROLL. However his frantic e-mails to
me (threats) and his screaming at his TROOPS not to mention his contacts
with realtors DEMANDING his "LEGAL RIGHTS" to the info (something he has
stated he has here) pretty well paints a picture of somebody out of
control.
>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>have made an offer. If Davey doesn't find it by the end of this week he
>>will
>>slit his own throat.
> Well, we shall see if he's still posting on Sunday. If he is, we
> can be certain that he found out or you lied.
Or HE has lied.
>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet? What
>>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>COALITION
>>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
> There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
> such. Accept this and move on with your life.
Tell HIM that. He still believes hne is COMMANDER of a MASIVE coalition
forces against me.
>>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
> Starting with his own, unless you lied.
Or HE did.
>>He has satellite surveillance up.
> Prove it.
Google Earth.
>>Straining to see license plate numbers on
>>cars parked outside.
> Prove it.
He's talking to his troops about it. The FAT girl has been asked to get
the PLATE NUMBERS off EVERY CAR that parks outside "Kenny's house."
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Add megalomania to Ken's many mental disorders (multiple personality
> disorder, Fregoli, sociopathy, etc.)
Thank you attorney - er DOCTOR Moore. <snicker>
>>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet?
>>>What
>>>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>>COALITION
>>>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>> There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
>>such. Accept this and move on with your life.
>>>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
>> Starting with his own, unless you lied.
> Reminds me of a joke:
<sigh>
> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
> They're laughing and having a good old time, ignoring Ken completely. He
> takes his gun out of his drawer and holds it up to his own head. They're
> still laughing. Ken says "What are you laughing for? You're next."
Davey YOU and Kunt are the Polacks here NOT me. BUT your joke does
reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
> they're buying into.
Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my address
on
Google, and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
and my house. You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
details about the potential sale of my home. YOU claim it is a "public
record" and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
information. That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
mental health Davey.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a for
>>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>have made an offer.
> Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will be
> recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
> print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
> sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you haven't
> disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
So you say ATTORNEY MOORE! However there ARE such things as postal
inspectors. BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
specifically will not see the transaction.
Moore for more than a decade you have TRIED to bully and blackmail me.
Has it EVER worked sissy? Has it ever even come CLOSE to working? NO! Your
threats are the ranting of a CHILD. Your threats about Jay and Peggy"filing
charges" and Tong doing this or that are so frigging LAUGHABLE Davey. You
have NO idea how pathetic you are.
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
to keep proving it.
>BUT your joke does
>reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>
It when right over you head, huh?
>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>> they're buying into.
>
> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my address
>on
> Google,
No such post has made it to misc.legal.
David did mention that he Googled your address (this was AFTER you
DEMANDED that he find the information about you). No mention of it
being done constantly was made.
>and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>and my house.
No such post has made it to misc.legal.
You are the only person to make that claim.
>You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>details about the potential sale of my home.
No such post has made it to misc.legal.
You are the only person to claim David has a Constitutional
right.
>YOU claim it is a "public
>record" and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>information.
Once the paperwork is filed, it will be a matter of public
record. As such, he does have the right to see it, if he wishes.
>That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
>mental health Davey.
>
I doubt anyone would question that you're mentally unstable.
Kent Wills
>DAVID MOORE WHACKJOB
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:2c97be10ff5760c9...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a for
>>>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
>>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>>have made an offer.
>
>> Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will be
>> recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
>> print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
>> sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you haven't
>> disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
>
> So you say ATTORNEY MOORE! However there ARE such things as postal
>inspectors.
And?
Are you claiming that David will send something illegal through
the mail?
>BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
>PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
>specifically will not see the transaction.
Home sales are public record. No amount of your pathological
lying will alter this truth.
>
> Moore for more than a decade you have TRIED to bully and blackmail me.
Prove it.
>Has it EVER worked sissy?
Pretending he has done so, yes.
>Has it ever even come CLOSE to working? NO! Your
>threats are the ranting of a CHILD. Your threats about Jay and Peggy"filing
>charges" and Tong doing this or that are so frigging LAUGHABLE Davey. You
>have NO idea how pathetic you are.
>
Yet you are the one crying about how David did as you demanded
when he looked for and found the information about your house.
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:iq4q04hg4cgcrp5sm...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>> I follow orders dutifully, and get attacked by Ken in return. What an
>>>>>> ingrate.
>>>>>
>>>>> What orders Davey?
>>
>>>> You ordered David to find the new about you.
>
>>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet.
>
>> Yes he has. He found that you're selling your house. Just as
>> you demanded he do.
>
> Look you demented Polack.
Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
to keep proving it. Really.
>All he knows is that it is LISTED.
A home isn't listed unless the current owner is looking to sell.
>But he knew
>that DAYS before I posted anything.
Prove it.
>He was sending me blackmail for days
>before I posted on my list about it.
Prove it.
>The MORON still hasn't figured out
>he's being played like a cheap dime store harmonica. ALl he knows is that I
>*MIGHT* be moving and his HAS to know the details.
You were quite open about moving on your listserv.
>And that this is another
>opportunity to STALK and HARASS me.
Since you DEMANDED that he find it, you can't actually claim he's
stalking. He's only doing what you want.
>
>>>He already KNEW that there was a for
>>>sale sign up.
>
>> Prove he knew it before he followed your demand that he find the
>> information about you.
>
> Golly would you accept his e-mails to me at my regular address where he
>was *DEMANDING* $5,000 to keep quiet about it? I bet NOT.
If it's from him, sure.
If, as I expect will be the case, it doesn't even exist, no.
>
>>>What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it, that's
>
>> Pretending for a moment that he does want to know the names of
>> anyone interested, I doubt he would die if he wasn't told.
>
> You underestimate his level of OBSESSION.
Presumably he doesn't know, and yet he's still posting. Since one
needs to be alive to post, we can safely accept he's not dead.
>
>> Can you offer anything to support your claim that his life depends
>> on knowing? Didn't think so.
>
> Nothing that YOU would accept Mr. TROLL.
Since I'll accept the truth, you've outted yourself as the liar
you are.
>However his frantic e-mails to
>me (threats) and his screaming at his TROOPS not to mention his contacts
>with realtors DEMANDING his "LEGAL RIGHTS" to the info (something he has
>stated he has here) pretty well paints a picture of somebody out of
>control.
Again, prove your claim.
If you prefer, you may admit you're lying.
>
>>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>>have made an offer. If Davey doesn't find it by the end of this week he
>>>will
>>>slit his own throat.
>
>> Well, we shall see if he's still posting on Sunday. If he is, we
>> can be certain that he found out or you lied.
>
> Or HE has lied.
You are the one who claimed he would kill himself. If he's still
alive on Sunday, it will mean he either found out, or you lied.
>
>>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet? What
>>>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>>COALITION
>>>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>
>> There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
>> such. Accept this and move on with your life.
>
> Tell HIM that. He still believes hne is COMMANDER of a MASIVE coalition
>forces against me.
No, you have a delusion that makes you think you are important
enough to warrant some sort of conspiracy.
You aren't. Accept this and move on with your life.
>
>>>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
>
>> Starting with his own, unless you lied.
>
> Or HE did.
You made the claim. If he doesn't commit suicide, it will mean
one of two things:
1) he got the information you claim he wants
2) you lied.
There are no other option.
>
>>>He has satellite surveillance up.
>
>> Prove it.
>
> Google Earth.
A picture taken, most probably, a few years ago is satellite
surveillance?
BTW, David doesn't own or run Google Earth, simpleton.
How deep is your psychosis?
>
>>>Straining to see license plate numbers on
>>>cars parked outside.
>
>> Prove it.
>
> He's talking to his troops about it.
Prove it.
>The FAT girl has been asked to get
>the PLATE NUMBERS off EVERY CAR that parks outside "Kenny's house."
Prove it.
>
>>>He has little fatty reporting in HOURLY.
>
>> How would you know? Have you put an illegal tap on her phone line?
>
No answer?
Of course the truth is that you flat out lied. I'd be surprised
if anyone actually thought your latest bull has any sort of merit.
Dan Sullivan
krp
> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
> to keep proving it.
Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
> It when right over you head, huh?
>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a TOILET
that thought it up.
>>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
>>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>>> they're buying into.
>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>address on
>> Google,
> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
But it WAS posted to ASCPS.
> David did mention that he Googled your address (this was AFTER you
> DEMANDED that he find the information about you). No mention of it
> being done constantly was made.
He mentioned it after I mentioned it HERE (ASCPS) but he had been doing
it for many days, which his blackmail e-mails clearly show. Demanding that I
pay him $5,000 or he's ruin the sale of my house.
>>and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>>and my house.
> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
> You are the only person to make that claim.
But they WERE admitted to in ASCPS. I can't help it if the little prick
removes newsgroups so he can get off on a technicality.
>>You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>>details about the potential sale of my home.
> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
> You are the only person to claim David has a Constitutional
> right.
But you are LYING. He DID - and THAT indeed WAS crossposted to
Misc.legal. You have even agreed with him, you put your own spin on it but
you say he does have the right.
>>YOU claim it is a "public record" and you go on to claim that you have a
>>"legal right" to the
>>information.
> Once the paperwork is filed, it will be a matter of public
> record. As such, he does have the right to see it, if he wishes.
Ni he has NO RIGHT whatsoever to see it. It is PRIVATE if I choose to
make it private. And ATTORNEY Wills your LEGAL opinion, as usual, is SHIT!
krp
>>>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a
>>>> for
>>>>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it,
>>>>that's
>>>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>>>have made an offer.
>>> Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will be
>>> recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
>>> print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
>>> sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you
>>> haven't
>>> disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
>> So you say ATTORNEY MOORE! However there ARE such things as postal
>>inspectors.
> And? Are you claiming that David will send something illegal through
> the mail?
Hmmmmmmmmm well that's an interesting point. It's not so much that what
he would send through the MAIL is illegal (a SICK BIRD by the way) BUT that
Davey,m the COWARD that he is clings to his anonymity for dear life. SO the
little pussy can be SAFE from responsibility for the shit he pulls. He can
get away with all sorts of shit on the INTERNET. - - - BUT when he goes to
U.S. mail - postal inspectors can and DO hunt down little pricks like Davey
all the time. Given what he ahs sent me, the threats and extortion, using
the U.S. Mail to further his CAMPAIGN will get him nailed. You see that's
traceable even IF Davey uses his "DUSTIN CALLOWAY" alias. I know because I
have had a U.S. Postal Inspector as a client. I have waited for the asshole
to use the mail for years.
>>BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
>>PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
>>specifically will not see the transaction.
> Home sales are public record. No amount of your pathological
> lying will alter this truth.
They are ONLY if the parties want them to be Kunt,m your prtactice of
law SUCKS!
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> PROVED he is a pathological liar
when he wrote:
>ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple
truth.
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:drrs04d2gfkbojk1u...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a
>>>>> for
>>>>>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it,
>>>>>that's
>>>>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that MAY
>>>>>have made an offer.
>
>>>> Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will be
>>>> recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
>>>> print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
>>>> sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you
>>>> haven't
>>>> disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
>
>>> So you say ATTORNEY MOORE! However there ARE such things as postal
>>>inspectors.
>
>> And? Are you claiming that David will send something illegal through
>> the mail?
>
> Hmmmmmmmmm well that's an interesting point. It's not so much that what
>he would send through the MAIL is illegal (a SICK BIRD by the way) BUT that
>Davey,m the COWARD that he is clings to his anonymity for dear life. SO the
>little pussy can be SAFE from responsibility for the shit he pulls.
You claim to know where he lives.
>He can
>get away with all sorts of shit on the INTERNET. - - - BUT when he goes to
>U.S. mail - postal inspectors can and DO hunt down little pricks like Davey
>all the time. Given what he ahs sent me, the threats and extortion, using
>the U.S. Mail to further his CAMPAIGN will get him nailed.
You've yet to prove these phantom threats exist anywhere other
than the confines of your mind.
>You see that's
>traceable even IF Davey uses his "DUSTIN CALLOWAY" alias. I know because I
>have had a U.S. Postal Inspector as a client. I have waited for the asshole
>to use the mail for years.
There are many ways around your delusion, even if we pretend that
warning the new owners of the problems listed in the divorce documents
were to be illegal.
>
>>>BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
>>>PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
>>>specifically will not see the transaction.
>
>> Home sales are public record. No amount of your pathological
>> lying will alter this truth.
>
> They are ONLY if the parties want them to be Kunt,m your prtactice of
>law SUCKS!
>
Please cite federal/state or case law that allows one or both
parties to keep the information private once filed.
If you prefer, you may admit you lied. Again.
Kent Wills
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3irs04p99klj8aggu...@4ax.com...
>
>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
>> to keep proving it.
>
> Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
You keep PROVING you're a bigot.
>
>>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>
>> It when right over you head, huh?
>
>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>
> No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a TOILET
>that thought it up.
It's a very old joke.
>
>>>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>>>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>>>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
>>>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>>>> they're buying into.
>
>>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>>address on
>>> Google,
>
>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>
> But it WAS posted to ASCPS.
So you flat out LIED when you stated, "Moore look at what you
have already admitted to right here in this newsgroup.
(Crossposted)."
Suddenly it wasn't cross-posted.
Where you lying when you stated it was cross-posted, or are you
lying now when you claim it was not?
>
>> David did mention that he Googled your address (this was AFTER you
>> DEMANDED that he find the information about you). No mention of it
>> being done constantly was made.
>
> He mentioned it after I mentioned it HERE (ASCPS) but he had been doing
>it for many days, which his blackmail e-mails clearly show. Demanding that I
>pay him $5,000 or he's ruin the sale of my house.
Again, prove he did such.
If you prefer, you may admit you are lying. Again.
>
>>>and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>>>and my house.
>
>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>> You are the only person to make that claim.
>
> But they WERE admitted to in ASCPS. I can't help it if the little prick
>removes newsgroups so he can get off on a technicality.
You are the one who made the claim about his "confession" being
cross-posted.
>
>>>You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>>>details about the potential sale of my home.
>
>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>> You are the only person to claim David has a Constitutional
>> right.
>
> But you are LYING.
Then you should be able to prove it.
>He DID - and THAT indeed WAS crossposted to
>Misc.legal.
No such admission made it to misc.legal.
>You have even agreed with him, you put your own spin on it but
>you say he does have the right.
He said that public records are public. And he's correct.
You are the only one to mention it being a Constitutional right.
>
>>>YOU claim it is a "public record" and you go on to claim that you have a
>>>"legal right" to the
>>>information.
>
>> Once the paperwork is filed, it will be a matter of public
>> record. As such, he does have the right to see it, if he wishes.
>
> Ni he has NO RIGHT whatsoever to see it. It is PRIVATE if I choose to
>make it private. And ATTORNEY Wills your LEGAL opinion, as usual, is SHIT!
>
For the third time, please cite the federal, state or case law
that enables one or both parties to prevent those who wish to see the
records once filed at the court house.
If you prefer, you may admit you are lying.
freedom
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, " krp" <krp2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>DAVID DANIEL MOORE CHILD BEATER
.....didn't write the message in question. Yet another lie by Ken
Pangborn.
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:72e23bfd5341e2ce...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>> Add megalomania to Ken's many mental disorders (multiple personality
>> disorder, Fregoli, sociopathy, etc.)
>
> Thank you attorney - er DOCTOR Moore. <snicker>
>
>>>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet?
>>>>What
>>>>is it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>>>COALITION
>>>>FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>
>>> There is no coalition. You aren't important enough to warrant
>>>such. Accept this and move on with your life.
>
>>>>Moore HAS to have it this week or heads will roll!
>
>>> Starting with his own, unless you lied.
>
>> Reminds me of a joke:
>
> <sigh>
>
>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>> They're laughing and having a good old time, ignoring Ken completely. He
>> takes his gun out of his drawer and holds it up to his own head. They're
>> still laughing. Ken says "What are you laughing for? You're next."
>
> Davey YOU and Kunt are the Polacks here NOT me.
I'm not Polish.
> BUT your joke does
>reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>
>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>> they're buying into.
>
> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my address
>on
> Google,
I stated that I typed your address into Google. That hardly equates to
"constant monitoring."
> and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
I've harassed no one.
>and my house. You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>details about the potential sale of my home.
I've made no such claim. This is another of your silly lies.
>YOU claim it is a "public
>record"
Home sales are indeed public record.
> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>information.
I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
> That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
>mental health Davey.
Yes, your thinking that you are important enough to warrant having your
home sale information concealed, indeed says quite a bit about your mental
health.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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freedom
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:52:34 GMT, " Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP
>consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> PROVED he is a pathological liar
>when he wrote:
>
>>ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
>
> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
>your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple
>truth.
Hmmmmm....reflecting upon this, maybe when he labels you as a lawyer, he's
subconsciously making reference to what HE wishes he could be?
That would also explain why he frequently falsely labels me as a child
beater, as well....
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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krp
>>ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
> your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple truth.
Kunt - underdstand this. YOU are the one who makes claims about what the
"LAW" says. But that's not enough for you. Besides being completely domatioc
about the law, most of the time you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT about what
you THINK the law says. hat does NOT slow you down in offering the world
your "LEGAL OPINIONS" and stating them as the "ONLY POSSIBLE FACT" When in
point of FACT you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I sdo much
enjoyed your LEGAL OPINIONS on the state of FLORIDA LAW on a right of
privacy. To call you a NUMBSKULL would be dramaticly OVER estimating your
intelligence Kunt.
>>>>>> But he hasn't found the INFO yet. He already KNEW that there was a
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>sale sign up. What he absolutely MUST find, his life depends on it,
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>the names of EVERYONE who has looked at the house, and everyone that
>>>>>>MAY
>>>>>>have made an offer.
>>>>> Nope, I couldn't care less. When the sale is complete, the deed will
>>>>> be
>>>>> recorded, and I'll get the name of the party at that time. Then, I'll
>>>>> print out a copy of your divorce paperwork, with the part about the
>>>>> sinkholes and termites hi-lited, and drop it in the mail. If you
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> disclosed these known defects, you'll be royally screwed. :)
>>>> So you say ATTORNEY MOORE! However there ARE such things as postal
>>>>inspectors.
>>> And? Are you claiming that David will send something illegal
>>> through
>>> the mail?
>
>> Hmmmmmmmmm well that's an interesting point. It's not so much that
>> what
>> he would send through the MAIL is illegal (a SICK BIRD by the way) BUT
>> that
>> Davey, the COWARD that he is clings to his anonymity for dear life. SO
>> the
>> little pussy can be SAFE from responsibility for the shit he pulls.
> You claim to know where he lives.
Well, again, ,I find it most interesting that you believe that *HE* has
an absolute "LEGAL RIGHT" to know ALL the details regarding MY home, which
as an ATTORNEY, and JUSTICE over the U.S. Supreme Court you declare that *I*
have NO right of privacy whatsoever, now you seem to arge that Moore DOES. I
find all aspects of what you call your "logic" most interesting Kunt because
it seems to be so fluid. It sort of bends or warps to whatever argument you
are making at the moment. It's that double reverse POLISH nottaion things
you have going Kunt. That thing where you blow statements of fact out your
ass that are so luidicrous.
>>He can get away with all sorts of shit on the INTERNET. - - - BUT when
>>he goes to
>>U.S. mail - postal inspectors can and DO hunt down little pricks like
>>Davey
>>all the time. Given what he ahs sent me, the threats and extortion, using
>>the U.S. Mail to further his CAMPAIGN will get him nailed.
> You've yet to prove these phantom threats exist anywhere other
> than the confines of your mind.
Not to YOU dipshit!
>>You see that's traceable even IF Davey uses his "DUSTIN CALLOWAY" alias.
>>I know because I
>>have had a U.S. Postal Inspector as a client. I have waited for the
>>asshole
>>to use the mail for years.
> There are many ways around your delusion, even if we pretend that
> warning the new owners of the problems listed in the divorce documents
> were to be illegal.
Yes, as a CAREER CRIMINAL I suppose YOU would know them all. But then
you see yourself as having the POWER and AUTHORITY (probably from eiother
Polish or Romani ROYALTY) (Divine right of Kings) to OPVERRULE the U.S.
Supreme Court. You're a funny guy Kunt. You REALLY ARE with your arrogant
bullshit.
I love your "LEGAL OPINIONS" they are a HOOT! Since you are a
PRACTICING ATTORNEY Kunt, I would expect you to know that arguments made in
a civil case are not dispositive of facts. What counts is the RULING of the
court. What one side BELIEVES and argues is put to the test, and the COURT
decides what the FACTS are! The COURT in this case made FACT findingsd. You
and your fellow USENET PRACTIOTIONER OF LAW, Moore, have chosen to overrule
the COURT and make your own bench rulings on the facts. Which is ONE of the
many reasons I find youi so interesting Kunt. How you make conclusions that
funtion in your little personal warped universe of POLISH logic. As Alice
said on HER trip through a world much like yours, "things just keep getting
cutiouser and curiouser!"
>>>>BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
>>>>PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
>>>>specifically will not see the transaction.
>>> Home sales are public record. No amount of your pathological
>>> lying will alter this truth.
>> They are ONLY if the parties want them to be Kunt, your prtactice of
>>law SUCKS!
> Please cite federal/state or case law that allows one or both
> parties to keep the information private once filed. If you prefer, you
> may admit you lied. Again.
No Kunt the burden is on YOU to prove that such records CANNOT be
sealed. That courts LACK such power! Makes no difference, you'll just
OVERRULE the decisions anyway since you have OVERRULED the U.S. Supreme
Court with YOUR Usenet rulings!
Dan Sullivan
krp
>>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
>>> to keep proving it.
>> Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
> You keep PROVING you're a bigot.
It's not bigotry to dislike a PRICK like you Kunt. You are just portable
shit. I can HATE that!
>
>>>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>>> It when right over you head, huh?
>>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>> No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a
>> TOILET
>>that thought it up.
> It's a very old joke.
Yes, Kunt, one YOU chose out of YOUR MIND. You seem NOT to understand
that the THOUGHT behind it, being pathological with you, represents how your
mind works. YOU think it funny. Ask your wife about that. The clinical
psychologist. You seem to come to debate with these negative SEXUAL
connottaions as a way of making YOUR point. It's just a display of how VILE
a person you are at the core of your being. But I expect that of a career
criminal and a sociopath like you or Moore who blame their "MARKS" for that
they MAKE you do! POOR KUNT! Keep telling yourself that YOU are a victim.
>>>>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>>>>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>>>>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>>>>> they're buying into.
>>>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>>>address on Google,
>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>> But it WAS posted to ASCPS.
> So you flat out LIED when you stated, "Moore look at what you
> have already admitted to right here in this newsgroup. (Crossposted)."
> Suddenly it wasn't cross-posted.
> Where you lying when you stated it was cross-posted, or are you
> lying now when you claim it was not?
Kunt - have you not noticed that Moore adds or subtracts groups as he
chooses? Like he FRANTICLY removes the chi.general group even thoiugh he
claims not to have EVER lived in Chicago or within 700 miles of it. <loud
laughter>
>>> David did mention that he Googled your address (this was AFTER you
>>> DEMANDED that he find the information about you). No mention of it
>>> being done constantly was made.
>> He mentioned it after I mentioned it HERE (ASCPS) but he had been
>> doing
>>it for many days, which his blackmail e-mails clearly show. Demanding that
>>I
>>pay him $5,000 or he's ruin the sale of my house.
> Again, prove he did such.
How? You will LIE about any proof. If I copy his e-mails DAYS before
you'll claim to have SOFTWARE that PROVES it is a hoax, and then a coupe,d
ays later claim you only have broken down SHIT that can't do it. <cough> As
in claiming one moment to have the pinacle BEST graphics software on the
planet and to be a "CERTIFIED A+ EXPERTT" when it came to my airline ticket
and your pronouncement that that GREATEST SOFTWARE in history showed you
that the destination field had "clearly been altered" But then just a few
days ago the "SHIT" you were using was TOTALLY INCAPABLE of enlarging an
image because it was so ancient and limited.You are such FUN Kunt. Reality
seems to be whatever you need it to be at the moment. Like "ONLY ONE" means
there were MANY!
> If you prefer, you may admit you are lying. Again.
Speak that into your mirror 10 times fast Kunt.
>>>>and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>>>>and my house.
>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>>> You are the only person to make that claim.
>
>> But they WERE admitted to in ASCPS. I can't help it if the little
>> prick
>>removes newsgroups so he can get off on a technicality.
> You are the one who made the claim about his "confession" being
> cross-posted.
Kunt - you LOVE to play "LARRY LOOPHOLE" Usenet Lawyer! You're a JOKE,
Kunt!
>>>>You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>>>>details about the potential sale of my home.
>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>>> You are the only person to claim David has a Constitutional
>>> right.
>> But you are LYING.
> Then you should be able to prove it.
This is your Larry Loophole shit again. Moore MADE the argument, you
have AGRRED with him, and in your previous post you DEMANDED that I post the
LAW that proves he doesn't have that "ABSOLUTE RIGHT." (state or Federal)
>>He DID - and THAT indeed WAS crossposted to Misc.legal.
> No such admission made it to misc.legal.
Nice SNIP Kunt.
>>You have even agreed with him, you put your own spin on it but
>>you say he does have the right.
> He said that public records are public. And he's correct.
> You are the only one to mention it being a Constitutional right.
Clever. Not he said "ALL INFOMATION REGARDING MY HOME" is public
records. That the "listing agreement" is a "public record" and that he ahs a
"LEGAL RIGHT TO IT." He also states that he has a "LEGAL RIGHT" to see any
offers on the home and to know the identities and contact information of
everyone who has seen the home or who MAY put in an offer.
>>>>YOU claim it is a "public record" and you go on to claim that you have a
>>>>"legal right" to the information.
>>> Once the paperwork is filed, it will be a matter of public
>>> record. As such, he does have the right to see it, if he wishes.
>> No he has NO RIGHT whatsoever to see it. It is PRIVATE if I choose to
>>make it private. And ATTORNEY Wills your LEGAL opinion, as usual, is
>>SHIT!
> For the third time, please cite the federal, state or case law
> that enables one or both parties to prevent those who wish to see the
> records once filed at the court house.
> If you prefer, you may admit you are lying.
You just AGAIN made your BENCH RULING Justice Wills. I love how in one
sentence you bitterly deny doing a thing and then shortly after you do the
same thing you have denied EVER doing. I want to see the LAW that YOU -
ATTORNEY KENT WILLS claim exists that PROHIBITS sealing such PRIVATE
transactions from YOU and your CLIENT David Moore (also who believes himself
to be a lawyer)
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
krp
RIGHT!"
Little SISSY of 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, Illinois who beats up
little girls
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>>>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet?
>>>>>Whatis it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>>>>COALITION FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>address
>>on Google,
> I stated that I typed your address into Google. That hardly equates to
> "constant monitoring."
Oh, REALLY Moore? You just typed it in BY ACCIDENT? Or your little FAT
friend accross the street gave COALITION HEADQUARTERS an action alert that a
for sale sign had gone up? It's the WHY you typed in my address that is so
interesting - STALKER! You may want to think on that before you answer.
Better to just snip it and ignore it Davey because regardless of your answer
you'll be admitting to being a STALKER. You can't win on it and I hope you
are at least smart enough to know that. So SNIP this paragraph in your
reply.
>> and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
> I've harassed no one.
That's YOUR opinion. The people you have e-mailed think otherwise.
>>and my house. You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know
>>the
>>details about the potential sale of my home.
> I've made no such claim. This is another of your silly lies.
Oh so you ADMIT you have NO right to the information?
>>YOU claim it is a "public record"
> Home sales are indeed public record.
Only IF the parties wish them to be Davey. They CAN request they remain
private despite YOUR belioef that YOU have a right to the information.
>> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>>information.
> I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
I suppsoe that much is true as far as it goes. But NOBODY has a "RIGHT"
to the information on MY house if I choose NOT to make it public. A concept
that is foreign to you.
>> That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
>>mental health Davey.
>
> Yes, your thinking that you are important enough to warrant having your
> home sale information concealed, indeed says quite a bit about your mental
> health.
Davey the whole concept of this nation is that one does NOT need to be
"important" to have certain rights, including the right to privacy,
especially when he has a DOCUMENTED PSYCHO STALKER like YOU! I don't need
ANY reason to ask that the transaction NOT be public. THAT drives you
INSANE, because it terrifies you that I might move and slip through your
fingers. You'd not know what phone company to call to ask that my phones be
shut off, or the electricity or water. And HELL - to make it worse - you'd
not know where to send the FREECYCLE folks. POOR POOR DAVID MOORE THE
VICTIM!
Oh Davey you keep removing Chicago General from the crossposts. You
claim you have NEVER lived anywhere near Chicago and you are currently
almost 700 miles away. What are you worried about if that's true? Why do you
feverishly remove the Chicago group? Afraid some neighbor might make a night
visit Davey? But you live 700 miles away. Why would YOU worry? Are you a
HUMANITARIAN? Is that it Davey?
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmmmm....reflecting upon this, maybe when he labels you as a lawyer, he's
> subconsciously making reference to what HE wishes he could be?
I label Kunt and YOURSELF Moore as "lawyers" because you both offer
LEGAL OPINIONS. But that's only half the reason. The other half is how WRONG
you are about the law MOST of the time.
gposter
> Kommander of the Iowa Kreigsmarine!"Kunt Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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Dan Sullivan
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Glad to see you are back on your 24 hour WATCHES again Danny boy! Another
chapter of IDIOTS on Usenet Patrol! :-))))))
Dan Sullivan
Greegor
> On Apr 17, 2:51 pm, " krp" <krp24...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> > Still THINK you RUN the place, eh Danny boy?
>
> Proud badass Dan Sullivan, reduced to
> topic cop, posting "ot" over and over! LOL
>
> Even his own hyena pack is ignoring his ""efforts"".
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Kent Wills
Consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> proved once gain that he's a
pathological liar and bigot when he wrote:
>PRINCE KUNT - EXERCISING THE DIVINE RIGHT OF KINGS
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:448t04d0i4q3lid38...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
>>>> to keep proving it.
>
>>> Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
>
>> You keep PROVING you're a bigot.
>
> It's not bigotry to dislike a PRICK like you Kunt. You are just portable
>shit. I can HATE that!
You absolutely HATE everyone in/from Poland. You've proved this
more times than I care to count.
You've also PROVED you absolutely HATE everyone in/from Asia.
>>
>>>>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>
>>>> It when right over you head, huh?
>
>>>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>
>>> No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a
>>> TOILET
>>>that thought it up.
>
>> It's a very old joke.
>
> Yes, Kunt, one YOU chose out of YOUR MIND.
No. David posted the joke, not me.
Why do you LIE in EVERY post? What is the root cause of your
psychological NEED to lie?
>You seem NOT to understand
>that the THOUGHT behind it, being pathological with you, represents how your
>mind works. YOU think it funny.
When did I claim it's funny?
>Ask your wife about that. The clinical
>psychologist. You seem to come to debate with these negative SEXUAL
>connottaions as a way of making YOUR point.
You're the one who consistently makes references to homo-erotic
imagery. And you flat out LIED and stated David is your gay lover.
>It's just a display of how VILE
>a person you are at the core of your being. But I expect that of a career
>criminal and a sociopath like you or Moore who blame their "MARKS" for that
>they MAKE you do! POOR KUNT! Keep telling yourself that YOU are a victim.
>
I suppose the argument that I'm one of MANY victims of your
pathological lying and bigotry. I've not made such a claim, even via
implication, but the case could be made.
>>>>>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>>>>>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>>>>>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>>>>>> they're buying into.
>
>>>>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>>>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>>>>address on Google,
>
>>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>
>>> But it WAS posted to ASCPS.
>
>> So you flat out LIED when you stated, "Moore look at what you
>> have already admitted to right here in this newsgroup. (Crossposted)."
>> Suddenly it wasn't cross-posted.
>> Where you lying when you stated it was cross-posted, or are you
>> lying now when you claim it was not?
>
> Kunt - have you not noticed that Moore adds or subtracts groups as he
>chooses?
No, but I have noticed you do. Which is odd, since you claimed
the ONLY person to do it is David.
>Like he FRANTICLY removes the chi.general group even thoiugh he
>claims not to have EVER lived in Chicago or within 700 miles of it. <loud
>laughter>
I've seen no such post from David.
>
>>>> David did mention that he Googled your address (this was AFTER you
>>>> DEMANDED that he find the information about you). No mention of it
>>>> being done constantly was made.
>
>>> He mentioned it after I mentioned it HERE (ASCPS) but he had been
>>> doing
>>>it for many days, which his blackmail e-mails clearly show. Demanding that
>>>I
>>>pay him $5,000 or he's ruin the sale of my house.
>
>> Again, prove he did such.
>
> How? You will LIE about any proof.
Every time you are asked to provide proof of an outlandish claim,
you try to lie your way out of it.
Either post something to, at the very least, support your claim,
or admit you've been lying.
>If I copy his e-mails DAYS before
>you'll claim to have SOFTWARE that PROVES it is a hoax,
When have I even hinted at such in the past?
>and then a coupe,d
>ays later claim you only have broken down SHIT that can't do it. <cough> As
>in claiming one moment to have the pinacle BEST graphics software on the
>planet and to be a "CERTIFIED A+ EXPERTT" when it came to my airline ticket
>and your pronouncement that that GREATEST SOFTWARE in history showed you
>that the destination field had "clearly been altered"
Liar. I never claimed to use any software to notice the
destination field looks altered.
>But then just a few
>days ago the "SHIT" you were using was TOTALLY INCAPABLE of enlarging an
>image because it was so ancient and limited.
When did I make such a claim?
If you're telling the truth, you'll be able to post the MID(s)
and or Google link(s). If you're lying, and you are, you won't.
>You are such FUN Kunt. Reality
>seems to be whatever you need it to be at the moment. Like "ONLY ONE" means
>there were MANY!
Again, you are alone in your belief that one equals any number
greater than one.
>
>> If you prefer, you may admit you are lying. Again.
>
> Speak that into your mirror 10 times fast Kunt.
Is this your way of admitting you lied?
>
>>>>>and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>>>>>and my house.
>
>>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>>>> You are the only person to make that claim.
>>
>>> But they WERE admitted to in ASCPS. I can't help it if the little
>>> prick
>>>removes newsgroups so he can get off on a technicality.
>
>> You are the one who made the claim about his "confession" being
>> cross-posted.
>
> Kunt - you LOVE to play "LARRY LOOPHOLE" Usenet Lawyer! You're a JOKE,
>Kunt!
You made the claim. You were lying. Again.
>
>>>>>You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>>>>>details about the potential sale of my home.
>
>>>> No such post has made it to misc.legal.
>>>> You are the only person to claim David has a Constitutional
>>>> right.
>
>>> But you are LYING.
>
>> Then you should be able to prove it.
>
> This is your Larry Loophole shit again. Moore MADE the argument, you
>have AGRRED with him, and in your previous post you DEMANDED that I post the
>LAW that proves he doesn't have that "ABSOLUTE RIGHT." (state or Federal)
>
Liar.
I pointed out that once filed, the records become public. I asked
you to cite federal, state or case law that supports your LIE that you
can have the records sealed.
>>>He DID - and THAT indeed WAS crossposted to Misc.legal.
>
>> No such admission made it to misc.legal.
>
>Nice SNIP Kunt.
>
What snip?
Please point out where I snipped anything? Here's a link to
your post. You'll note nothing was snipped.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/74f8135f8be92481
"But you are LYING. He DID - and THAT indeed WAS crossposted to
Misc.legal. You have even agreed with him, you put your own spin on it
but you say he does have the right."
I keep telling you, if you're going to lie, make certain the lie
can't be proved. You have a real problem with this.
>>>You have even agreed with him, you put your own spin on it but
>>>you say he does have the right.
>
>> He said that public records are public. And he's correct.
>> You are the only one to mention it being a Constitutional right.
>
> Clever. Not he said "ALL INFOMATION REGARDING MY HOME" is public
>records.
He did not say this. You are correct, for once.
>That the "listing agreement" is a "public record" and that he ahs a
>"LEGAL RIGHT TO IT." He also states that he has a "LEGAL RIGHT" to see any
>offers on the home and to know the identities and contact information of
>everyone who has seen the home or who MAY put in an offer.
>
You are the sole person to think he has a right to all of that.
>>>>>YOU claim it is a "public record" and you go on to claim that you have a
>>>>>"legal right" to the information.
>
>>>> Once the paperwork is filed, it will be a matter of public
>>>> record. As such, he does have the right to see it, if he wishes.
>
>>> No he has NO RIGHT whatsoever to see it. It is PRIVATE if I choose to
>>>make it private. And ATTORNEY Wills your LEGAL opinion, as usual, is
>>>SHIT!
>
>> For the third time, please cite the federal, state or case law
>> that enables one or both parties to prevent those who wish to see the
>> records once filed at the court house.
>> If you prefer, you may admit you are lying.
>
> You just AGAIN made your BENCH RULING Justice Wills.
I understand your mental illness forces you to lie, but I'm not a
judge. And no amount of your pathological lies will alter this truth.
>I love how in one
>sentence you bitterly deny doing a thing and then shortly after you do the
>same thing you have denied EVER doing.
Could you re-write that sentence? In English?
>I want to see the LAW that YOU -
>ATTORNEY KENT WILLS claim exists that PROHIBITS sealing such PRIVATE
>transactions from YOU and your CLIENT David Moore (also who believes himself
>to be a lawyer)
>
You are the only person who has a mental illness that makes you
see people as lawyers.
You're addition PROOF that you are no longer of sound mind,
presuming you ever were, aside, you've yet to prove your LIE that you
can have the records sealed. Please do so now, or, if you prefer, you
may admit you are lying. Again.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
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>
>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:52:34 GMT, " Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP
>>consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> PROVED he is a pathological liar
>>when he wrote:
>>
>>>ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
>>
>> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
>>your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
>> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple
>>truth.
>
>Hmmmmm....reflecting upon this, maybe when he labels you as a lawyer, he's
>subconsciously making reference to what HE wishes he could be?
It's certainly possible. However, I think it's simply a case of
his mental illness forcing him to lie.
Odds are we'll never really KNOW which it is.
>
>That would also explain why he frequently falsely labels me as a child
>beater, as well....
Also possible.
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
>
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
Kent Wills
>HE JUST DOESN'T GET IT
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>> Hmmmmm....reflecting upon this, maybe when he labels you as a lawyer, he's
>> subconsciously making reference to what HE wishes he could be?
>
> I label Kunt and YOURSELF Moore as "lawyers" because you both offer
>LEGAL OPINIONS.
You simply can't stop yourself from lying, huh?
>But that's only half the reason. The other half is how WRONG
>you are about the law MOST of the time.
>
You know NOTHING of law, as you have PROVED more times than I
care to count.
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
Kent Wills
Consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> proves, again, that he simply can't
be honest, no matter what, when he wrote:
>Kommander of the Iowa Kreigsmarine!
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ir7t041fbujhk86ng...@4ax.com...
>
>>>ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
>
>> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
>> your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
>> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple truth.
>
> Kunt - underdstand this. YOU are the one who makes claims about what the
>"LAW" says. But that's not enough for you. Besides being completely domatioc
>about the law, most of the time you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT about what
>you THINK the law says. hat does NOT slow you down in offering the world
>your "LEGAL OPINIONS" and stating them as the "ONLY POSSIBLE FACT"
I've never made such a claim.
>When in
>point of FACT you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I sdo much
>enjoyed your LEGAL OPINIONS on the state of FLORIDA LAW on a right of
>privacy. To call you a NUMBSKULL would be dramaticly OVER estimating your
>intelligence Kunt.
Actually, it's not my legal opinion, but the legal opinion of Bill
McCollum, Florida's Attorney General.
Presumably he knows enough about Florida law to hold and state
such an opinion.
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
See the entire file for issues of confidentiality as is laid to
the clerk to exercise by statute. Note it pertains only to such
persons as law enforcement officers in real estate and other records.
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
See the end notes citing the statutes
[1] Section 119.07(1)(a), Fla. Stat., requires every person who has
custody of a public record to permit it to be inspected and examined
by any person desiring to do so, at any reasonable time, under
reasonable conditions, and under supervision by the custodian, and
directs the custodian to furnish a copy of the record upon payment of
the fee prescribed by law or, in the absence of a prescribed fee, the
actual cost of duplication.
[6] See, e.g., ss. 119.01(1) (all state, county, and municipal records
shall be open for personal inspection by any person) and 119.07(1)(a)
(custodian of public record shall permit inspection and examination by
any person at any reasonable time and under reasonable conditions).
And see, Art. I, s. 24(a), Fla. Const., providing that "[e]very person
has the right to inspect or copy any public record . . . ." Cf., s.
99.095(1), Fla. Stat. (the voter registration books are public
records; "[e]very citizen is allowed to examine the registration books
while they are in the custody of the supervisor"). This office has
been advised that the county supervisor of elections has honored
requests to keep home addresses of law enforcement personnel
confidential.
[7] Section 28.222(3)(g), Fla. Stat.
[8] Cf., Op. Att'y Gen. Fla. 84-81 (1984) (custodian of record
containing both exempt and nonexempt material may comply with the
Public Records Law by any reasonable method which maintains and does
not destroy the exempted portion, while allowing public inspection of
the nonexempt portion). "
Are you going to claim you are a Law Enforcement Officer? The
only way you can claim you are entitled to the right to NOT have the
records of your home sale made public is if you are LEO.
Again, I've told you, many times, that if you're going to lie,
make certain the lie can't be proved. Sadly, your mental illness
won't permit you to be honest.
I understand your mental illness forces you to lie, but the truth
is I'm not an attorney. No amount of your lying and claiming I am
will alter this truth.
>and JUSTICE over the U.S. Supreme Court you declare that *I*
I'm not a judge either.
Is your mind so far gone that you actually think that if you
claim these lies often enough, they will magically become truth? Has
your repeatedly posting pathological lies EVER made one of them truth?
Ever?
>have NO right of privacy whatsoever,
I've made no such claim.
>now you seem to arge that Moore DOES. I
I've made no such claim.
>find all aspects of what you call your "logic" most interesting Kunt because
>it seems to be so fluid. It sort of bends or warps to whatever argument you
>are making at the moment.
Projection noted.
>It's that double reverse POLISH nottaion things
>you have going Kunt. That thing where you blow statements of fact out your
>ass that are so luidicrous.
That Florida law makes home sales public record, except for
certain, specific persons, is something everyone but you appears able
to accept.
Certainly no one but you is arguing against it.
>
>>>He can get away with all sorts of shit on the INTERNET. - - - BUT when
>>>he goes to
>>>U.S. mail - postal inspectors can and DO hunt down little pricks like
>>>Davey
>>>all the time. Given what he ahs sent me, the threats and extortion, using
>>>the U.S. Mail to further his CAMPAIGN will get him nailed.
>
>> You've yet to prove these phantom threats exist anywhere other
>> than the confines of your mind.
>
> Not to YOU dipshit!
I've accepted the threats only exist in your mind.
>
>>>You see that's traceable even IF Davey uses his "DUSTIN CALLOWAY" alias.
>>>I know because I
>>>have had a U.S. Postal Inspector as a client. I have waited for the
>>>asshole
>>>to use the mail for years.
>
>> There are many ways around your delusion, even if we pretend that
>> warning the new owners of the problems listed in the divorce documents
>> were to be illegal.
>
> Yes, as a CAREER CRIMINAL I suppose YOU would know them all.
Projection noted.
That aside, there is nothing illegal about letting the new owners
now that your property once had, and still might have, a sink hole and
termite damage.
>But then
>you see yourself as having the POWER and AUTHORITY (probably from eiother
>Polish or Romani ROYALTY) (Divine right of Kings)
When have I claimed to be part of any royal blood line?
Is there anything about which your mental illness will permit you
to be honest?
>to OPVERRULE the U.S.
>Supreme Court. You're a funny guy Kunt. You REALLY ARE with your arrogant
>bullshit.
>
You are the one who has the mental illness the forces you to lie
and claim I have [insert lie here] in a pathetic attempt at gaining
some fame by proxy.
It's not working.
> I love your "LEGAL OPINIONS" they are a HOOT! Since you are a
>PRACTICING ATTORNEY Kunt,
Again, no matter how many times you present this same
pathological lie, I'm not an attorney.
Seek professional mental health care for your psychological
INABILITY to be honest.
>I would expect you to know that arguments made in
>a civil case are not dispositive of facts. What counts is the RULING of the
>court.
Are you claiming, here in front of everyone reading, that you
didn't have a sink hole and termite damage?
>What one side BELIEVES and argues is put to the test, and the COURT
>decides what the FACTS are! The COURT in this case made FACT findingsd. You
>and your fellow USENET PRACTIOTIONER OF LAW, Moore, have chosen to overrule
>the COURT and make your own bench rulings on the facts.
So you LIED. Got it.
>Which is ONE of the
>many reasons I find youi so interesting Kunt. How you make conclusions that
>funtion in your little personal warped universe of POLISH logic. As Alice
>said on HER trip through a world much like yours, "things just keep getting
>cutiouser and curiouser!"
If you're going to quote _Through the Looking Glass_, at least do
so correctly.
>
>>>>>BUT Davey while you THINK that such things are automatically
>>>>>PUBLIC RECORDS - they're NOT. Davey - I have made sure that YOU -
>>>>>specifically will not see the transaction.
>
>>>> Home sales are public record. No amount of your pathological
>>>> lying will alter this truth.
>
>>> They are ONLY if the parties want them to be Kunt, your prtactice of
>>>law SUCKS!
>
>> Please cite federal/state or case law that allows one or both
>> parties to keep the information private once filed. If you prefer, you
>> may admit you lied. Again.
>
> No Kunt the burden is on YOU to prove that such records CANNOT be
>sealed. That courts LACK such power! Makes no difference, you'll just
>OVERRULE the decisions anyway since you have OVERRULED the U.S. Supreme
>Court with YOUR Usenet rulings!
>
I knew you could NOT cite any law, since no such law exists
outside that which passes for your mind.
Since, unlike you, I'm not lying, I was and am able to cite the
relevant law.
Once again I prove you to be the mentally ill, pathological liar
you are. If only there was some challenge to this.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>>> They're laughing and having a good old time, ignoring Ken completely. He
>>> takes his gun out of his drawer and holds it up to his own head. They're
>>> still laughing. Ken says "What are you laughing for? You're next."
>>
>> Davey YOU and Kunt are the Polacks here NOT me.
>
>I'm not Polish.
Kenny-Bob was just expressing his bigotry. Again.
>
>> BUT your joke does
>>reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>>
>>> I think he may actually believe this stuff, even to the extent that he
>>> believes that everyone around him is either me, or reporting to me.
>>> Still, it's good that he's doing it here, where Google will archive it.
>>> Then, anyone considering working with him can see for themselves what
>>> they're buying into.
>>
>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my address
>>on
>> Google,
>
>I stated that I typed your address into Google. That hardly equates to
>"constant monitoring."
>
Don't forget to mention you did this AFTER Kenny-Bob DEMANDED
that you find the news about him.
>> and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>
>I've harassed no one.
>
Certainly no evidence has been presented to support the charge.
>>and my house. You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know the
>>details about the potential sale of my home.
>
>I've made no such claim. This is another of your silly lies.
>
It's kind of sad, really. Kenny-Bob is unable to be honest.
For a while, I thought he simply preferred to lie, but now it's
clear he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest.
>>YOU claim it is a "public
>>record"
>
>Home sales are indeed public record.
Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>
>> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>>information.
>
>I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
>
But Kenny-Bob wants everyone to think he's somehow exempt.
>> That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
>>mental health Davey.
>
>Yes, your thinking that you are important enough to warrant having your
>home sale information concealed, indeed says quite a bit about your mental
>health.
>
Kenny-Bob wants to be more than he is, but is unable. He's
reached the pinnacle of what he can ever be.
Sort of sad, in a way.
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
Kent Wills
Consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Martin Luther King said; "I HAVE A DREAM" David Moore said; "I HAVE A
>RIGHT!"
>Little SISSY of 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, Illinois who beats up
>little girls
You have yet to offer anything to support your claim that the
David Moore who is charged with assaulting a child under the age of 14
is the same one who posts to Usenet.
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>What's more he absolutely HAS to find where I might be
>>>>>>moving to. Is it in Florida? Where? Do I have a new phone number yet?
>
>>>>>>Whatis it? What's the new ADDRESS - these are all IMPERATIVES for the
>>>>>>COALITION FORCES INTELLIGENCE UNIT!
>
>
>>> Moore look at what you have already admitted to right here in this
>>>newsgroup. (Crossposted). That is to the constant monitoring of my
>>>address
>>>on Google,
>
>> I stated that I typed your address into Google. That hardly equates to
>> "constant monitoring."
>
> Oh, REALLY Moore? You just typed it in BY ACCIDENT?
Only David can state with certainty why he did it, but I think it
was because you DEMANDED that he find the information about you.
Putting your address into a Google search is one way to try and find
it.
You're just mad that he found the information about your home
sale.
Since you ordered him to find it, you have only yourself to blame
for his finding it.
>Or your little FAT
>friend accross the street gave COALITION HEADQUARTERS an action alert that a
>for sale sign had gone up? It's the WHY you typed in my address that is so
>interesting - STALKER!
You DEMANDED that he find the information.
I told you that if he did look, you can't honestly make a claim
of stalking. You wanted it found. You wanted David to find it.
If you didn't want it know, you shouldn't have posted a demand
that he look for it. Had you kept quiet and he found it, then you
could make a case that he's stalking.
>You may want to think on that before you answer.
>Better to just snip it and ignore it Davey because regardless of your answer
>you'll be admitting to being a STALKER.
By doing what you told him to do?
Granted, you didn't order him to enter your address into Google,
but it was and is an easy way to seek information.
>You can't win on it and I hope you
>are at least smart enough to know that. So SNIP this paragraph in your
>reply.
And if he follows this latest order from you?
>
>>> and to harassing real estate agents with your "WARNINGS" about me
>
>> I've harassed no one.
>
> That's YOUR opinion. The people you have e-mailed think otherwise.
Prove he's harassed anyone.
>
>>>and my house. You are the one claiming a "Constitutional Right" to know
>>>the
>>>details about the potential sale of my home.
>
>> I've made no such claim. This is another of your silly lies.
>
> Oh so you ADMIT you have NO right to the information?
He does not have a Constitutional right. That's the LIE you've
been presenting.
>
>>>YOU claim it is a "public record"
>
>> Home sales are indeed public record.
>
> Only IF the parties wish them to be Davey.
That's not what Bill McCullum thinks. And as Florida's Attorney
General, I expect he has the requisite knowledge to know.
>They CAN request they remain
>private despite YOUR belioef that YOU have a right to the information.
They can request anything they want. However, the law trumps any
wishes or desires either party may have.
>
>>> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>>>information.
>
>> I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
>
> I suppsoe that much is true as far as it goes. But NOBODY has a "RIGHT"
>to the information on MY house if I choose NOT to make it public. A concept
>that is foreign to you.
Are you claiming (read: LYING) that you fit into the exception
category?
>
>
>>> That, really says all that needs to be said about anyone's
>>>mental health Davey.
>>
>> Yes, your thinking that you are important enough to warrant having your
>> home sale information concealed, indeed says quite a bit about your mental
>> health.
>
> Davey the whole concept of this nation is that one does NOT need to be
>"important" to have certain rights, including the right to privacy,
>especially when he has a DOCUMENTED PSYCHO STALKER like YOU!
You ORDERED David to find the information. He did so.
Why you didn't use it as a means to claim he'll do whatever you
say without question is something I'll never understand. It would
have served your purposes much better than LYING and stating his doing
what you told him to do means he's a stalker.
>I don't need
>ANY reason to ask that the transaction NOT be public.
You can ask anything you want. No one is disputing that you can
ask. That you LIE and claim the records will be sealed is what is in
dispute.
>THAT drives you
>INSANE, because it terrifies you that I might move and slip through your
>fingers. You'd not know what phone company to call to ask that my phones be
>shut off, or the electricity or water. And HELL - to make it worse - you'd
>not know where to send the FREECYCLE folks. POOR POOR DAVID MOORE THE
>VICTIM!
>
> Oh Davey you keep removing Chicago General from the crossposts. You
>claim you have NEVER lived anywhere near Chicago and you are currently
>almost 700 miles away.
You do have a problem with numbers.
>What are you worried about if that's true? Why do you
>feverishly remove the Chicago group? Afraid some neighbor might make a night
>visit Davey? But you live 700 miles away. Why would YOU worry? Are you a
>HUMANITARIAN? Is that it Davey?
>
That made no sense at all.
krp
>>>>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
>>>>> to keep proving it.
>>
>>>> Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
>>
>>> You keep PROVING you're a bigot.
>>
>> It's not bigotry to dislike a PRICK like you Kunt. You are just
>> portable
>>shit. I can HATE that!
> You absolutely HATE everyone in/from Poland. You've proved this more
> times than I care to count.
> You've also PROVED you absolutely HATE everyone in/from Asia.
Asia? I have? Where? Kunt YOU are the only Polish person I hate. And I
don't really hate you so much as I have FUN making fun of you you are so
STUPID.
>>>>>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>>>>> It when right over you head, huh?
>>>>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>>>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>>>> No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a
>>>> TOILET
>>>>that thought it up.
>>> It's a very old joke.
>> Yes, Kunt, one YOU chose out of YOUR MIND.
> No. David posted the joke, not me. Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
> What is the root cause of your
> psychological NEED to lie?
YOU chose to AMPLIFY it Kunt.
>>You seem NOT to understand that the THOUGHT behind it, being pathological
>>with you, represents how your
>>mind works. YOU think it funny.
> When did I claim it's funny?
<groan>
>>Ask your wife about that. The clinical psychologist. You seem to come to
>>debate with these negative SEXUAL
>>connottaions as a way of making YOUR point.
> You're the one who consistently makes references to homo-erotic
> imagery. And you flat out LIED and stated David is your gay lover.
I only make FUN of the sexual-tension between you and Moore and Moore's
LONG runnign sexual obsession with me, It's all in HIS mind.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nqsv049bd9o7ncorc...@4ax.com...
>>> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
>>> your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
>>> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple
>>> truth.
>>
>> Kunt - underdstand this. YOU are the one who makes claims about what
>> the
>>"LAW" says. But that's not enough for you. Besides being completely
>>domatioc
>>about the law, most of the time you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT about what
>>you THINK the law says. hat does NOT slow you down in offering the world
>>your "LEGAL OPINIONS" and stating them as the "ONLY POSSIBLE FACT"
>
> I've never made such a claim.
Oh come on Kunt you STATE the LAW repeatedly. You state it to an ABSOLUTE
CERTAINTY! Your LEGAL OPINION.
>>When in point of FACT you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
>>I sdo much
>>enjoyed your LEGAL OPINIONS on the state of FLORIDA LAW on a right of
>>privacy. To call you a NUMBSKULL would be dramaticly OVER estimating your
>>intelligence Kunt.
> Actually, it's not my legal opinion, but the legal opinion of Bill
> McCollum, Florida's Attorney General.
> Presumably he knows enough about Florida law to hold and state
> such an opinion.
And YOU can MISQUOTE him - AS USUAL..
> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
> See the entire file for issues of confidentiality as is laid to
> the clerk to exercise by statute. Note it pertains only to such
> persons as law enforcement officers in real estate and other records.
>
> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
>
> See the end notes citing the statutes
> [1] Section 119.07(1)(a), Fla. Stat., requires every person who has
> custody of a public record to permit it to be inspected and examined
> by any person desiring to do so, at any reasonable time, under
> reasonable conditions, and under supervision by the custodian, and
> directs the custodian to furnish a copy of the record upon payment of
> the fee prescribed by law or, in the absence of a prescribed fee, the
> actual cost of duplication.
And this in your APPEALATE LEGAL OPINON means that NO record of ANY type
can EVER be PRIVATE.
> [6] See, e.g., ss. 119.01(1) (all state, county, and municipal records
> shall be open for personal inspection by any person) and 119.07(1)(a)
> (custodian of public record shall permit inspection and examination by
> any person at any reasonable time and under reasonable conditions).
> And see, Art. I, s. 24(a), Fla. Const., providing that "[e]very person
> has the right to inspect or copy any public record . . . ." Cf., s.
> 99.095(1), Fla. Stat. (the voter registration books are public
> records; "[e]very citizen is allowed to examine the registration books
> while they are in the custody of the supervisor"). This office has
> been advised that the county supervisor of elections has honored
> requests to keep home addresses of law enforcement personnel
> confidential.
> [7] Section 28.222(3)(g), Fla. Stat.
So far so good Kunt.
> [8] Cf., Op. Att'y Gen. Fla. 84-81 (1984) (custodian of record
> containing both exempt and nonexempt material may comply with the
> Public Records Law by any reasonable method which maintains and does
> not destroy the exempted portion, while allowing public inspection of
> the nonexempt portion). "
Hey ASSWIPE - you seem to MISS this part as you ALWAYS DO.
"n sum:
The Official Records are public records that are subject to the
confidentiality provisions in section 119.07(3)(i)1., Florida Statutes, when
confidentiality is requested pursuant to section 119.07(3)(i)2., Florida
Statutes. It is the clerk's responsibility, however, to devise a method to
ensure the integrity of the Official Records while also maintaining the
confidential status of information contained therein.'
> Are you going to claim you are a Law Enforcement Officer? The
> only way you can claim you are entitled to the right to NOT have the
> records of your home sale made public is if you are LEO.
Is THAT what it says dipshit?
> Again, I've told you, many times, that if you're going to lie,
> make certain the lie can't be proved. Sadly, your mental illness
> won't permit you to be honest.
Yeah why is it you NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER listen to that
yourself ASSHOLE? You seem to think that the statutory protection for law
enforcement officers is the ONLY protection that NOBODY else can have a
right of privacy instead of having it AUTOMATIC for an LEO.
"You ask whether the provisions in section 28.222(6), Florida Statutes,
stating that the Official Records "always be open to the public," precludes
the clerk from deleting any information that is made confidential or exempt
by law. The Public Records Law, Chapter 119, Florida Statutes, however,
contains similar declarations that public records be open to the public,[6]
and, therefore, such language would not appear to be dispositive."
In your BENCH RULING, Kunt you claim that courts have NO authority of ANY
kind to SEAL the record and claim the cite above SUPPORTS your LEGAL RULING
on the issue.
"Due to the significant impact on the clerk's responsibility to maintain the
Official Records, you may wish to seek a more definitive statement from the
courts through a declaratory judgment. Moreover, given the unique position
that the Official Records play in affording protection to the rights of
individuals in real property transactions, this matter should be brought
before the Legislature in order to obtain a clear articulation of its intent
regarding access to these records"
"Nothing in the Public Records Law or the statutes governing the duties of
the clerk authorizes the clerk to alter or destroy Official Records.
However, the statute does impose a duty on the clerk to prevent the release
of confidential material that may be contained in the Official Records. This
would also be applicable when the clerk is releasing copies of the Official
Records by any means, such as via the Internet. Moreover, there is nothing
that precludes the clerk from altering reproductions of the Official Records
to protect confidential information. The manner in which this is to be
accomplished rests within the sound discretion of the clerk and this office
cannot prescribe a single method that would be acceptable.[8]"
Oh and DIPSHIT - DIPSHIT DUMB POLACK the opinion was NOT that of
PRESENT A.G. McCollum but of PREVIOUS A.G. Bob Butterworth. AND you MORON it
dates to 1997!!! WHY Polack do you pull this shit? WHAT the fukk makes you
THINK you can get away with this LYING?
Number: AGO 97-67
Date: September 25, 1997
Subject: Official Records, removal of confidential information
The advisory was in response TO a specific question. AGAIN ATTORNEY
WILLS you screw the legal POOCH! The point of discussion as the "automatic
right" of Law Enforcement officers to privacy on the records. It is NOT a
statement that ONLY LEO's can have confidentiality as YOU CLAIM IN YOUR
LEGAL OPINION. And you WONDER - - WHY - - - I call you a DUMB POLACK?!
krp
> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
> public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
> doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
Kunt in my previous reply I shot your LEGAL RULING in the ass. First of all
you can't keep straight what YEAR the "advisory" was made, shit you don't
even know what an AG's "advisory" IS you MORON. But you go on to MISSTATE
IT.
The "OPINION" NOT made by present AG McCollum, but by the Florida AG in
1997 - BOB BUTTERWORTH - was in response to an Orange County (Orlando)
Commissioner on the AUTOMATIC right of a law enforcement officer to
confidentiality while YOU as the APPELLATE AUTHORITY for the State of
Florida and SUPREME to OVERRULE the United States Supreme court - want to
interpret this to mean that this opinion creates a legal doctrine that ONLY
law enforcement officers have ANY right to privacy. That's NOT what it says
anywhere. That is NOT what the opinion was about. BUT the GREAT Kunt Wills
in his APPELLATE AUTHORITY - - OVERRULES the decisions and opinions and
issues his OWN LEGAL OPINION.
The FACT is Kunt the opinion in NO WAY limits the rights of OTHER Florida
citizens and YOU RULE. Your BENCH RULING, as usual, Kunt, is BULLSHIT! It
just does NOT say what you RULE it does.
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
Consulting" <krp2...@verizon.net> prove his bigotry and mental
illness when he wrote:
>ATTORNEY AND SUPREME JUSTICE
No matter how many times your mind requires you to present this
same, pathological, lie, it won't magically become truth. You need
to accept this, get professional mental health care, and move on with
your life.
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:nqsv049bd9o7ncorc...@4ax.com...
>
>>>> No matter how much your mentally ill mind forces you to believe
>>>> your lie to be true, the simple truth is that I am not a lawyer.
>>>> No amount of your pathological lies will ever alter this simple
>>>> truth.
>>>
>>> Kunt - underdstand this. YOU are the one who makes claims about what
>>> the
>>>"LAW" says. But that's not enough for you. Besides being completely
>>>domatioc
>>>about the law, most of the time you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT about what
>>>you THINK the law says. hat does NOT slow you down in offering the world
>>>your "LEGAL OPINIONS" and stating them as the "ONLY POSSIBLE FACT"
>>
>> I've never made such a claim.
>
>Oh come on Kunt you STATE the LAW repeatedly. You state it to an ABSOLUTE
>CERTAINTY! Your LEGAL OPINION.
No. It was and is the legal opinion of Florida's Attorney
General. If you have an issue with the opinion, take it up with him.
>
>>>When in point of FACT you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
>>>I sdo much
>>>enjoyed your LEGAL OPINIONS on the state of FLORIDA LAW on a right of
>>>privacy. To call you a NUMBSKULL would be dramaticly OVER estimating your
>>>intelligence Kunt.
>
>> Actually, it's not my legal opinion, but the legal opinion of Bill
>> McCollum, Florida's Attorney General.
>> Presumably he knows enough about Florida law to hold and state
>> such an opinion.
>
> And YOU can MISQUOTE him - AS USUAL..
Not so, as checking the links provided will prove.
>
>> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
>
>> See the entire file for issues of confidentiality as is laid to
>> the clerk to exercise by statute. Note it pertains only to such
>> persons as law enforcement officers in real estate and other records.
>>
>> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
>>
>> See the end notes citing the statutes
>
>> [1] Section 119.07(1)(a), Fla. Stat., requires every person who has
>> custody of a public record to permit it to be inspected and examined
>> by any person desiring to do so, at any reasonable time, under
>> reasonable conditions, and under supervision by the custodian, and
>> directs the custodian to furnish a copy of the record upon payment of
>> the fee prescribed by law or, in the absence of a prescribed fee, the
>> actual cost of duplication.
>
> And this in your APPEALATE LEGAL OPINON means that NO record of ANY type
>can EVER be PRIVATE.
I've never made such a claim.
We are discussing a specific type of record. The sale of homes.
And Bill McCollum, Attorney General for the State of Florida, who
would be very qualified to issue a legal opinion, states that save for
law enforcement personnel, the records of home sales are public.
If he disagreed with this opinion, it wouldn't be on a site that
displays his picture and name.
I doubt he's using Ukrainian web designers, who wouldn't catch
such a thing.
Why are you asking yourself?
>> Again, I've told you, many times, that if you're going to lie,
>> make certain the lie can't be proved. Sadly, your mental illness
>> won't permit you to be honest.
>
> Yeah why is it you NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER listen to that
>yourself ASSHOLE? You seem to think that the statutory protection for law
>enforcement officers is the ONLY protection that NOBODY else can have a
>right of privacy instead of having it AUTOMATIC for an LEO.
That's what Florida law states.
You can lobby to have that changed, if you wish.
>
>"You ask whether the provisions in section 28.222(6), Florida Statutes,
>stating that the Official Records "always be open to the public," precludes
>the clerk from deleting any information that is made confidential or exempt
>by law. The Public Records Law, Chapter 119, Florida Statutes, however,
>contains similar declarations that public records be open to the public,[6]
>and, therefore, such language would not appear to be dispositive."
>
>In your BENCH RULING, Kunt you claim that courts have NO authority of ANY
>kind to SEAL the record and claim the cite above SUPPORTS your LEGAL RULING
>on the issue.
On what grounds would you, an average Joe, claim an exemption?
>
>"Due to the significant impact on the clerk's responsibility to maintain the
>Official Records, you may wish to seek a more definitive statement from the
>courts through a declaratory judgment. Moreover, given the unique position
>that the Official Records play in affording protection to the rights of
>individuals in real property transactions, this matter should be brought
>before the Legislature in order to obtain a clear articulation of its intent
>regarding access to these records"
>
>"Nothing in the Public Records Law or the statutes governing the duties of
>the clerk authorizes the clerk to alter or destroy Official Records.
>However, the statute does impose a duty on the clerk to prevent the release
>of confidential material that may be contained in the Official Records. This
>would also be applicable when the clerk is releasing copies of the Official
>Records by any means, such as via the Internet. Moreover, there is nothing
>that precludes the clerk from altering reproductions of the Official Records
>to protect confidential information. The manner in which this is to be
>accomplished rests within the sound discretion of the clerk and this office
>cannot prescribe a single method that would be acceptable.[8]"
>
> Oh and DIPSHIT - DIPSHIT DUMB POLACK
Everyone KNOWS you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's no need
for you to keep proving that which isn't in dispute.
>the opinion was NOT that of
>PRESENT A.G. McCollum but of PREVIOUS A.G. Bob Butterworth.
Odd that Bill McCollum's picture and name appear prominently at
the top of the page.
Did the same Ukrainian team that messed up your site make
myfloridalegal.com as well? :)
>AND you MORON it
>dates to 1997!!!
Do you think the law has been repealed? If so, on what do you
based this believe?
>WHY Polack do you pull this shit?
Everyone KNOWS you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's no need
for you to keep proving that which isn't in dispute.
Seriously. No one is even trying to defend you on this. You've
PROVED your bigotry enough that there is no defense to be offered.
>WHAT the fukk makes you
>THINK you can get away with this LYING?
>
There is no lie from me. You, however, are desperately trying to
lie your way out of another of your lies.
It's not working.
>Number: AGO 97-67
>Date: September 25, 1997
>Subject: Official Records, removal of confidential information
>
> The advisory was in response TO a specific question. AGAIN ATTORNEY
>WILLS you screw the legal POOCH! The point of discussion as the "automatic
>right" of Law Enforcement officers to privacy on the records. It is NOT a
>statement that ONLY LEO's can have confidentiality as YOU CLAIM IN YOUR
>LEGAL OPINION.
It's not my legal opinion, dullard. Again, it's the legal
opinion of Bill McCollum, Florida's Attorney General. His picture and
name appear at the top of the page. If he didn't have this opinion,
I'm certain he would have had the reference removed. He's not as
incompetent as you.
Your lie aside, I requested in my prior post that you actually
READ the citation in full. You either did not do so, or are
deliberately with lying malice, ignored the section that clearly
clarifies the issue.
Which was it? Willful ignorance or, more likely, a lie?
I'll accept either answer.
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
"As noted above, the Official Records are a part of the public record.
While there is a great public interest in providing unencumbered
access to the Official Records in order to ensure the accuracy of real
estate transactions, the Legislature has provided an exemption for
certain information relating to law enforcement officers contained in
public records. No exception from this exemption exists for documents
contained in the Official Records, and this office has no authority to
create such an exception. In contrast, the Legislature, in requiring
the clerk of court to record death certificates in the Official
Records, specifically allows only those death certificates in which
information made confidential elsewhere in the Florida Statutes has
been excluded to be recorded in the Official Records.[7] "
Note the clear statement that "this office" has NO authority to
create such an exception. Meaning, of course, outside the statute
referred to Legislature creating the LEO exception. You don't have a
way out of this, Kenny-Bob.
Yes, you'll try to LIE your way out of it, but it's not going to
work. It never has in the past, so I'm forced to wonder why you keep
trying.
Please show in the Florida statues where the clerk is authorized
to conceal any or all content of a real estate sale for anyone but
LEO's.
Your excessive posting with nonsense interpretations
notwithstanding, you have provided not a single proof that YOU
personally have, or even could request AND RECEIVED an exemption for
your real estate transaction (presuming you ever sell your
--formerly?-- sinkhole and termite infested property) a county clerk
would honor.
I don't think they'd want to lose their job for your exercise of
your imagined, but nonexistent "power."
My proof is above. Show where any section of any statute, or
legal finding, or opinion of appropriate authority would give YOU that
exemption you claim you have and can exercise to conceal your real
estate transaction disclosure to the public. You will see above that
the claim by the AG, as cited, is that there is legislative provisions
for only ONE category of persons. And you don't fall into that
classification.
You deceptively try to claim that because of the date of this
opinion that it is no longer valid. Show a more recent ruling,
opinion, or statute that in fact supports your claim.
Laws don't become invalid because they are old, Kenny-Bob.
Typical of your kind of perverse logic to try and convince others age
of a law determines validity.
I'd call you an idiot, but that would be an insult to idiots.
And your lies will not stop David, or anyone else with the
interest, from seeing the public record once filed with the county
clerk, to SEE if you disclosed the -- formerly? -- termite
infestation, with a sinkhole or sinkholes on the property.
Did you? Or did you lie and conceal it?
You've already confessed to their existence at one time. And no
proof they have been corrected. Were they?
You still have to disclose THAT.
You give cause to believe you've done nothing, and are NOT
disclosing the sink hole(s) and termite damage. If you have repaired
the items, then no biggie. You'll be able to show that the sink hole
(or holes) was filled. You'll also be able to show that the termite
damage was repaired.
This means that David will waste time and money making the new
owners aware of the problems. You'll be out nothing.
And what do you care if he wastes his time and money?
>And you WONDER - - WHY - - - I call you a DUMB POLACK?!
>
You have proved, beyond any possible doubt, that you HATE
everyone in/from Poland. Your bigotry is well known and documented.
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
>ATTORNEY GENERAL
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ecuv045c7g5i3tami...@4ax.com...
>
>> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
>> public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
>> doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>
>Kunt in my previous reply I shot your LEGAL RULING in the ass.
No, you tried to LIE your way out of your previous lie.
You failed. Again.
First of all
>>you can't keep straight what YEAR the "advisory" was made, shit you don't
>even know what an AG's "advisory" IS you MORON. But you go on to MISSTATE
>IT.
Not so, but since you have a psychological NEED to lie, your lie
is to be expected.
>
>The "OPINION" NOT made by present AG McCollum, but by the Florida AG in
>1997 - BOB BUTTERWORTH - was in response to an Orange County (Orlando)
>Commissioner on the AUTOMATIC right of a law enforcement officer to
>confidentiality while YOU as the APPELLATE AUTHORITY for the State of
>Florida and SUPREME to OVERRULE the United States Supreme court
What is the root cause of your psychological NEED to LIE? A NEED
so powerful that you simply can't over come it?
>- want to
>interpret this to mean that this opinion creates a legal doctrine that ONLY
>law enforcement officers have ANY right to privacy.
That's what Florida statute states.
>That's NOT what it says
>anywhere.
Had you actually read it, you would have seen it does say that.
>That is NOT what the opinion was about. BUT the GREAT Kunt Wills
>in his APPELLATE AUTHORITY - - OVERRULES the decisions and opinions and
>issues his OWN LEGAL OPINION.
>
Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
I've asked this of you MANY times. So far you've run away rather
than answer.
Please answer now.
>The FACT is Kunt the opinion in NO WAY limits the rights of OTHER Florida
>citizens and YOU RULE. Your BENCH RULING, as usual, Kunt, is BULLSHIT! It
>just does NOT say what you RULE it does.
>
It says what it says. You can't have the information regarding
your home's sale made confidential.
Provide a cite showing you can.
Kent Wills
>SUFFERING FROM "CLASS" envy. (he has NONE!)
>"Kunt Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6hrv04dvk84gajskh...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>> Everyone knows you HATE everyone in/from Poland. You don't need
>>>>>> to keep proving it.
>>>
>>>>> Nope! JUST YOU - dickhead!
>>>
>>>> You keep PROVING you're a bigot.
>>>
>>> It's not bigotry to dislike a PRICK like you Kunt. You are just
>>> portable
>>>shit. I can HATE that!
>
>> You absolutely HATE everyone in/from Poland. You've proved this more
>> times than I care to count.
>> You've also PROVED you absolutely HATE everyone in/from Asia.
>
> Asia? I have? Where?
Here are the MIDs for four of the posts where you PROVE you have
a DEEP hate for Asians:
Message-ID: <3DJLj.38248$4Q1.31401@trnddc06>
Message-ID: <%33Kj.731$4Q1.487@trnddc06>
Message-ID: <EIOxj.37362$T8.28949@trnddc03>
Message-ID: <ktppj.721$U12.611@trnddc06>
>Kunt YOU are the only Polish person I hate.
Liar.
Message-ID: <1HHK5.4328$R4.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
>And I
>don't really hate you so much as I have FUN making fun of you you are so
>STUPID.
Yet I consistently prove I'm your intellectual superior.
If you see me as stupid, how worse do you see yourself?
>
>>>>>>>BUT your joke does reflect HOW you think. PERVERT!
>
>>>>>> It when right over you head, huh?
>
>>>>>>> Ken comes home early one evening, and comes into the bedroom to find
>>>>>>> Barbara in bed doing what she does best, with the next door neighbor.
>
>>>>> No Kunt - not at all. Just shows the FILTHY mind that lives in a
>>>>> TOILET
>>>>>that thought it up.
>
>>>> It's a very old joke.
>
>>> Yes, Kunt, one YOU chose out of YOUR MIND.
>
>> No. David posted the joke, not me. Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
>> What is the root cause of your
>> psychological NEED to lie?
>
> YOU chose to AMPLIFY it Kunt.
How? How does pointing out that it's an old joke amplify it?
Be specific as I doubt anyone who doesn't have the mental illness
you present can see it.
>
>>>You seem NOT to understand that the THOUGHT behind it, being pathological
>>>with you, represents how your
>>>mind works. YOU think it funny.
>
>> When did I claim it's funny?
>
> <groan>
>
No answer?
Since I never expressed a view on it's humor, you can't cite when
your LIE that I thought it was funny was made.
Once again you PROVE that your lies can't be proved true.
>>>Ask your wife about that. The clinical psychologist. You seem to come to
>>>debate with these negative SEXUAL
>>>connottaions as a way of making YOUR point.
>
>> You're the one who consistently makes references to homo-erotic
>> imagery. And you flat out LIED and stated David is your gay lover.
>
> I only make FUN of the sexual-tension between you and Moore and Moore's
>LONG runnign sexual obsession with me, It's all in HIS mind.
>
But YOU are the one who claimed he's your gay lover.
Either you have the delusion that he is or you lied. Which is
it?
I'll accept either answer.
Dan Sullivan
freedom
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
He has a long and established history of lying, then backing it up by
falsely claiming to have some sort of special privilege. Examples:
1. Several years back, his most popular lie was that I was under
investigation by law enforcement. He would give daily reports on the
status of "the case," all of which consisted of information which no real
law enforcement agent would ever discuss regarding an open case.
2. He falsely claims that I am adopted, although even if I were, the
records would be sealed and Ken would thus have no access to them.
3. Falsely claims to have been able to get my DD-214, although most people
have to jump through massive hoops even to get their own.
And the list goes on and on....
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"...my aunt wouldnt come over to our house anymore because of how he would
talk to her and come on to her....and he had over 180 pictures of her on
his computer"
- --Ken Pangborn's former stepdaughter Megan, on growing up in the Pangborn
household
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
tjab
Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've never made such a claim.
> We are discussing a specific type of record. The sale of homes.
>And Bill McCollum, Attorney General for the State of Florida, who
>would be very qualified to issue a legal opinion, states that save for
>law enforcement personnel, the records of home sales are public.
> If he disagreed with this opinion, it wouldn't be on a site that
>displays his picture and name.
Here is the opinion of the Supreme Court of Iowa, upholding your felony
conviction in the burglary of an occupied residence. If this wasn't their
opinion, it wouldn't be on their site.
http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20050506/04-0202.asp
krp
>>> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
>>> public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
>>> doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>>Kunt in my previous reply I shot your LEGAL RULING in the ass.
> No, you tried to LIE your way out of your previous lie.
> You failed. Again.
>>> First of all you can't keep straight what YEAR the "advisory" was made,
>>> shit you don't
>>even know what an AG's "advisory" IS you MORON. But you go on to MISSTATE
>>IT.
> Not so, but since you have a psychological NEED to lie, your lie
> is to be expected.
Did you MISS AT ALL Kunt that the "ADVISORY" you quoted was from
1997????? You CAN read numbers can't you Kunt? And it was signed by the THEN
attorney General BOB BUTTERWORTH and NOT the present AG?
>>The "OPINION" NOT made by present AG McCollum, but by the Florida AG in
>>1997 - BOB BUTTERWORTH - was in response to an Orange County (Orlando)
>>Commissioner on the AUTOMATIC right of a law enforcement officer to
>>confidentiality while YOU as the APPELLATE AUTHORITY for the State of
>>Florida and SUPREME to OVERRULE the United States Supreme court
> What is the root cause of your psychological NEED to LIE? A NEED
> so powerful that you simply can't over come it?
Address this to yourself Kunt - YOU are the liar here. Which is WHY, I
suspect you hurredly removed the LINK you provided. HIDING something Kunt?
The advisor was from 1997 and from AG Bob Butterworth.
>>- want to interpret this to mean that this opinion creates a legal
>>doctrine that ONLY
>>law enforcement officers have ANY right to privacy.
> That's what Florida statute states.
No Kunt that is what YOU say it states. As ALWAYS your "LEGAL OPINION"
is SHIT! The statute you are relying on gives SPECIAL consideration to
police officers, it does NOT as YOU - FALSELY CLAIM deny it to others. It
just makes it AUTOMATIC for LE officers.It also makes it MANDATORY.
A clerk CANNOT deny it. You have this HUGE reading problem with English,
maybe we can get it for you in Polish?
>>That's NOT what it says anywhere.
> Had you actually read it, you would have seen it does say that.
Oh your problem IS Kunt, that I *DID* read it. You always believe that
you can thjrow shit on the wall and NOBODY will EVER actually read the whole
thing. You tried that with Glenn Roberts' site. You screwed the pooch there
too.
>>That is NOT what the opinion was about. BUT the GREAT Kunt Wills
>>in his APPELLATE AUTHORITY - - OVERRULES the decisions and opinions and
>>issues his OWN LEGAL OPINION.
> Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
> I've asked this of you MANY times. So far you've run away rather than
> answer.
> Please answer now.
It's NOT what it says Kunt. There is NO proscriptive language IN that
statute. You are LYING! WHat the statute says and what AG BUTTERWORTH was
saying in his "advisory response to a Orange County Comissioner(Orlando) was
that it was mandatory on the part of clerks to grant anonymity to law
enforcement officers on real estate transactions. It was his opinion in
1997 - that the clerks did NOT have ANY discretion on the matter that they
HAD to seal those transactions IF requested. There is NO language that
mandates that nobody else has a right to privacy and that LEO are the ONLY
ones that can see privacy of the transactions. NOT - DIPSHIT - does it
divest the COURTS from sealing the records as YOU ARGUE.
Kunt you love to use that TIRED old line to everyone who disagree with
your INSANE BULLSHIT. It's well half past OLD Kunt., YOU are the LIAR here.
>>The FACT is Kunt the opinion in NO WAY limits the rights of OTHER Florida
>>citizens and YOU RULE. Your BENCH RULING, as usual, Kunt, is BULLSHIT! It
>>just does NOT say what you RULE it does.
> It says what it says. You can't have the information regarding your
> home's sale made confidential.
> Provide a cite showing you can.
Don't have to Kunt. YOUR cite FAILS to support your INSANE claims! It
only said LEO's are ENTITLED to privacy NOT that everyone else is NOT! I
hold out NO HOPE whatsoever that you could possibly understand that IF that
was what the law said it would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL as hell.
gposter
> GRAND ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET"Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>YOU claim it is a "public record"
>>>Home sales are indeed public record.
>
>> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
>>public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
>>doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>>>> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>>>>information.
>>>I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
>> But Kenny-Bob wants everyone to think he's somehow exempt.
> He has a long and established history of lying, then backing it up by
> falsely claiming to have some sort of special privilege. Examples:
Davey let me make this simple for you. I don't want you misrepresenting my
position again. Generally real estate transactions ARE public and even
appear in the newspapers. HOWEVER - they don't HAVE to be. They CAN be
sealed. THAT pisses you off. Oh Davey they HAVE been sealed POOR POOR POOR
BABY! You'll NEVER see them! Ain't life JUST A BITCH?
Dan Sullivan
krp
>>>> Kunt - underdstand this. YOU are the one who makes claims about what
>>>> the
>>>>"LAW" says. But that's not enough for you. Besides being completely
>>>>dogmatic
>>>>about the law, most of the time you are absolutely FULL OF SHIT about
>>>>what
>>>>you THINK the law says. hat does NOT slow you down in offering the world
>>>>your "LEGAL OPINIONS" and stating them as the "ONLY POSSIBLE FACT"
>>> I've never made such a claim.
You DO all the time. You state your LEGAL OPINIONS as ABSOLUTE FACT. And
generally you are WRONG as hell.
>>Oh come on Kunt you STATE the LAW repeatedly. You state it to an ABSOLUTE
>>CERTAINTY! Your LEGAL OPINION.
> No. It was and is the legal opinion of Florida's Attorney
> General. If you have an issue with the opinion, take it up with him.
Kunt - it was the opinion of a FORMER Attorney General made ELEVEN YEARS
AGO in response to a SPECIFIC QUESTION. As you PLAY a lawyer on Usenet
offering your legal opinions and "RULINGS" on the law, you are generally
WRONG because you don't know HOW to read the material in front of you,
that's because YOU are a 'dumb Polack!" The material you reference was by
THEN AG Bob Butterworth in response to a Orange County Commissioner
(Orlando) as to a question of IF the Clerk had "discretion" as to whether or
not to grant privacy to a LEO. The "advisory" opinion was that they did
NOT - that the statute REQUIRED the clerk to seal the real estate
transactions for a LEO. NOWHERE did the opinion state that the clerk and
courts could NOT grant a sealing of the records (for cause) to any other
citizen. MEANING - ATTORNEY WILLS - that the Clerk AND the Courts DO have
discretion regatding other citizens.
A concept WAY over your IQ level.
>>>>When in point of FACT you don't know what the hell you are talking
>>>>about.
>>>>I sdo much
>>>>enjoyed your LEGAL OPINIONS on the state of FLORIDA LAW on a right of
>>>>privacy. To call you a NUMBSKULL would be dramaticly OVER estimating
>>>>your
>>>>intelligence Kunt.
>>
>>> Actually, it's not my legal opinion, but the legal opinion of Bill
>>> McCollum, Florida's Attorney General.
>>> Presumably he knows enough about Florida law to hold and state
>>> such an opinion.
>>
>> And YOU can MISQUOTE him - AS USUAL..
> Not so, as checking the links provided will prove.
>>> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
Let's START with the FACT that this was NOT the opinion of AG McCollumn
but that of AG Bob Butterworth in 1997. I don't even need to get into
changes in statutes in the past ELEVEN YEARS you frigging DOLT!
>>> See the entire file for issues of confidentiality as is laid to
>>> the clerk to exercise by statute. Note it pertains only to such
>>> persons as law enforcement officers in real estate and other records.
>>> http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/BA7FDACA3F5C3DC58525651D006F451B
As one who fancies himself to be the ULTIMATE LEGAL EXPERT, Kunt you
have ZERO understanding of legal lanuage. NONE WHATSOEVER.This is again WHY
I call you a "STUPID POLACK." READ THIS.. CAREFULLY and have an ADULT
explain it to you: "issues of confidentiality as is laid to
the clerk to exercise by statute" Where do you read into that that ONLY
LEO's have a right to privacy and the Clerk CANNOT seal the records for ANY
other citizen of Florida? Is THAT what it says KUNT?
>>> See the end notes citing the statutes
>>> [1] Section 119.07(1)(a), Fla. Stat., requires every person who has
>>> custody of a public record to permit it to be inspected and examined
>>> by any person desiring to do so, at any reasonable time, under
>>> reasonable conditions, and under supervision by the custodian, and
>>> directs the custodian to furnish a copy of the record upon payment of
>>> the fee prescribed by law or, in the absence of a prescribed fee, the
>>> actual cost of duplication.
>> And this in your APPEALATE LEGAL OPINON means that NO record of ANY
>> type
>> can EVER be PRIVATE.
> I've never made such a claim.
Oh so a clerk or court CAN order a transaction file to be sealed?
> We are discussing a specific type of record. The sale of homes.
> And Bill McCollum, Attorney General for the State of Florida, who
> would be very qualified to issue a legal opinion, states that save for
> law enforcement personnel, the records of home sales are public.
> If he disagreed with this opinion, it wouldn't be on a site that
> displays his picture and name.
> I doubt he's using Ukrainian web designers, who wouldn't catch
> such a thing.
HEY POLOCK! It wasn't McCollum it was BOB BUTTERWORTH you MORON!
>>> [6] See, e.g., ss. 119.01(1) (all state, county, and municipal records
>>> shall be open for personal inspection by any person) and 119.07(1)(a)
>>> (custodian of public record shall permit inspection and examination by
>>> any person at any reasonable time and under reasonable conditions).
>>> And see, Art. I, s. 24(a), Fla. Const., providing that "[e]very person
>>> has the right to inspect or copy any public record . . . ." Cf., s.
>>> 99.095(1), Fla. Stat. (the voter registration books are public
>>> records; "[e]very citizen is allowed to examine the registration books
>>> while they are in the custody of the supervisor"). This office has
>>> been advised that the county supervisor of elections has honored
>>> requests to keep home addresses of law enforcement personnel
>>> confidential.
>>> [7] Section 28.222(3)(g), Fla. Stat.
>> So far so good Kunt.
>>> [8] Cf., Op. Att'y Gen. Fla. 84-81 (1984) (custodian of record
>>> containing both exempt and nonexempt material may comply with the
>>> Public Records Law by any reasonable method which maintains and does
>>> not destroy the exempted portion, while allowing public inspection of
>>> the nonexempt portion). "
>> Hey ASSWIPE - you seem to MISS this part as you ALWAYS DO.
>>"in sum:
>>
>>The Official Records are public records that are subject to the
>>confidentiality provisions in section 119.07(3)(i)1., Florida Statutes,
>>when
>>confidentiality is requested pursuant to section 119.07(3)(i)2., Florida
>>Statutes. It is the clerk's responsibility, however, to devise a method to
>>ensure the integrity of the Official Records while also maintaining the
>>confidential status of information contained therein.'
>>> Are you going to claim you are a Law Enforcement Officer? The
>>> only way you can claim you are entitled to the right to NOT have the
>>> records of your home sale made public is if you are LEO.
>> Is THAT what it says dipshit?
> Why are you asking yourself?
No butthead - YOU asked if I was an LEO. And your statement of LAW
is WRONG.
REPLAY OF KUNT WILLS BULLSHIT LEGAL OPINION:
KW> " The only way you can claim you are entitled to the right to NOT have
the
KW> records of your home sale made public is if you are LEO.
That is NOT what the statutes say! PERIOD Kunt your LEGAL RULING IS
WRONG AGAIN!
>>> Again, I've told you, many times, that if you're going to lie,
>>> make certain the lie can't be proved. Sadly, your mental illness
>>> won't permit you to be honest.
>>
>> Yeah why is it you NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER listen to that
>>yourself ASSHOLE? You seem to think that the statutory protection for law
>>enforcement officers is the ONLY protection that NOBODY else can have a
>>right of privacy instead of having it AUTOMATIC for an LEO.
> That's what Florida law states.
> You can lobby to have that changed, if you wish.
No Kunt you are WRONG. That is NOT what it says. AGAIN you fail to
understand legal language. The statute here is PART of the whole, and it
provides a SPECIFIC provision that MANDATES that LEO's records MUST be
sealed if requested. For any OTHER request for CAUSE it is within the
discretion of the clerk OR the courts to grant sealing of the record and
NOWHERE does it DENY such discretion to the clerks or courts to do so.
There is NO "proscriptive" language either in the statute or the BUTTERWORTH
advisory. In fact IF you looked at the WHOLE section, somethbing KUNT WILLS
NEVER DOES, it provides that the clerks DO have discretion which is where
the rub came causing the Butterworth opinion because the clerk was claiming
he could DENY the request of an LEO to have it sealed. Butterworth's opinion
was that it was NOT a matter of discretion that in the case of an LEO it was
MANDATORY. NOTHING in the Butterworth opinion bars any other Florida citisen
of having the right to make their transactions private.
NOW - let's play COURT for a moment. Let us have your BEST LEGAL
ARGUMENT on this Attorney WILLS..
Let's say that I have obtained a court order directing the clerk to NOT
make my real estate transaction public. YOU are Moore's Lawyer. What would
your LEGAL ARGUMENT be why HIS right to know about MY home is greater than
MY right to shield it from a STALKER? Give us your best shot on WHY he
needs this information and why HIS NEED outweights MY right of privacy.
What does he NEED it for? What "COMPELLING INTEREST" does David Moore have
to KNOW the details of my information?
>>"You ask whether the provisions in section 28.222(6), Florida Statutes,
>>stating that the Official Records "always be open to the public,"
>>precludes
>>the clerk from deleting any information that is made confidential or
>>exempt
>>by law. The Public Records Law, Chapter 119, Florida Statutes, however,
>>contains similar declarations that public records be open to the
>>public,[6]
>>and, therefore, such language would not appear to be dispositive."
>>In your BENCH RULING, Kunt you claim that courts have NO authority of ANY
>>kind to SEAL the record and claim the cite above SUPPORTS your LEGAL
>>RULING on the issue.
> On what grounds would you, an average Joe, claim an exemption?
Does the average Joe NEED grounds? Does the law REQUIRE that the average
Joe have some GROUNDS to protect his castle? How about the NEED being is to
be protected from a PSYHO STALKER???
Nope Kunt just STUPID POLACKS like you. The rest of the Polish
population are just folks. UOU are an exception NOT the rule. If ALL Polish
people were like you, Poland would be a parking lot today.
>>the opinion was NOT that of
>>PRESENT A.G. McCollum but of PREVIOUS A.G. Bob Butterworth.
>
> Odd that Bill McCollum's picture and name appear prominently at
> the top of the page.
MAN you ARE a STUPID POLACK! READ the fukkkkking document KUNT! It is
DATED.. It is SIGNED..
> Did the same Ukrainian team that messed up your site make
> myfloridalegal.com as well? :)
>>AND you MORON it dates to 1997!!!
> Do you think the law has been repealed? If so, on what do you based
> this believe?
Kunt you are an IDIOT!
>>WHY Polack do you pull this shit?
> Everyone KNOWS you HATE everyone in/from Poland. There's no need
> for you to keep proving that which isn't in dispute.
> Seriously. No one is even trying to defend you on this. You've
> PROVED your bigotry enough that there is no defense to be offered.
>
>>WHAT the fukk makes you
>>THINK you can get away with this LYING?
> There is no lie from me. You, however, are desperately trying to
> lie your way out of another of your lies. It's not working.
Kunt you do nothing BUT LIE. LIE YOUR STUPID POLACK ASS OFF!
>>Number: AGO 97-67
>>Date: September 25, 1997
>>Subject: Official Records, removal of confidential information
WHAT'S THE DATE DIPSHIT?
>> The advisory was in response TO a specific question. AGAIN ATTORNEY
>>WILLS you screw the legal POOCH! The point of discussion as the
>>"automatic
>>right" of Law Enforcement officers to privacy on the records. It is NOT a
>>statement that ONLY LEO's can have confidentiality as YOU CLAIM IN YOUR
>>LEGAL OPINION.
> It's not my legal opinion, dullard. Again, it's the legal
> opinion of Bill McCollum, Florida's Attorney General. His picture and
> name appear at the top of the page. If he didn't have this opinion,
> I'm certain he would have had the reference removed. He's not as
> incompetent as you.
LIAR ot is signed by THEN Attorney General BOB BUTTERWORTH! YOU STUPID
STUPID STUPID POLACK!
> Your lie aside, I requested in my prior post that you actually
> READ the citation in full. You either did not do so, or are
> deliberately with lying malice, ignored the section that clearly
> clarifies the issue.
> Which was it? Willful ignorance or, more likely, a lie?
> I'll accept either answer.
Number: AGO 97-67
Date: September 25, 1997
Subject: Official Records, removal of confidential information
Sincerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
See that KUNT?
Sincerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
There it is AGAIN you LIAR!
Sincerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kent Wills
>
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:d52a7a08ff80c328...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>>>>>YOU claim it is a "public record"
>
>>>>Home sales are indeed public record.
>>
>>> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
>>>public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
>>>doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>
>>>>> and you go on to claim that you have a "legal right" to the
>>>>>information.
>
>>>>I have as much right as anyone else to access public records.
>
>>> But Kenny-Bob wants everyone to think he's somehow exempt.
>
>> He has a long and established history of lying, then backing it up by
>> falsely claiming to have some sort of special privilege. Examples:
>
>
>Davey let me make this simple for you. I don't want you misrepresenting my
>position again. Generally real estate transactions ARE public and even
>appear in the newspapers. HOWEVER - they don't HAVE to be. They CAN be
>sealed.
For some. You don't fit into that demographic group.
>THAT pisses you off. Oh Davey they HAVE been sealed POOR POOR POOR
>BABY! You'll NEVER see them! Ain't life JUST A BITCH?
>
No they haven't. That would imply your home sold.
Kent Wills
>GRAND ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET
Contrary to your latest pathological lie, I hold no
military/naval rank of any sort.
What is the root cause of your pathological lying?
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:eob2149uoi2nl4pla...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>>> Florida's attorney General also thinks home sales in Florida are
>>>> public record, except for certain, specific persons. Kenny-Bob
>>>> doesn't fit into the category of exceptions.
>
>>>Kunt in my previous reply I shot your LEGAL RULING in the ass.
>
>> No, you tried to LIE your way out of your previous lie.
>> You failed. Again.
>
>>>> First of all you can't keep straight what YEAR the "advisory" was made,
>>>> shit you don't
>>>even know what an AG's "advisory" IS you MORON. But you go on to MISSTATE
>>>IT.
>
>> Not so, but since you have a psychological NEED to lie, your lie
>> is to be expected.
>
> Did you MISS AT ALL Kunt that the "ADVISORY" you quoted was from
>1997????? You CAN read numbers can't you Kunt? And it was signed by the THEN
>attorney General BOB BUTTERWORTH and NOT the present AG?
>
Why do you lie?
Former AG Butterworth was CITED in McCollum's comment. This is
quite different from the lie you are presenting.
>>>The "OPINION" NOT made by present AG McCollum, but by the Florida AG in
>>>1997 - BOB BUTTERWORTH - was in response to an Orange County (Orlando)
>>>Commissioner on the AUTOMATIC right of a law enforcement officer to
>>>confidentiality while YOU as the APPELLATE AUTHORITY for the State of
>>>Florida and SUPREME to OVERRULE the United States Supreme court
>
>> What is the root cause of your psychological NEED to LIE? A NEED
>> so powerful that you simply can't over come it?
>
> Address this to yourself Kunt - YOU are the liar here. Which is WHY, I
>suspect you hurredly removed the LINK you provided. HIDING something Kunt?
>The advisor was from 1997 and from AG Bob Butterworth.
>
I didn't remove anything.
Here's a link to the post on Google:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/2427dc2717ecae1a
Note the links remained in my reply. Note that they are absent in
YOUR reply.
I'm being very serious when I ask, is there anything about which
you will not lie? Anything at all?
>>>- want to interpret this to mean that this opinion creates a legal
>>>doctrine that ONLY
>>>law enforcement officers have ANY right to privacy.
>
>> That's what Florida statute states.
>
> No Kunt that is what YOU say it states.
That's what the law states.
>As ALWAYS your "LEGAL OPINION"
>is SHIT!
It's not my opinion, no matter how often you lie and claim it is.
>The statute you are relying on gives SPECIAL consideration to
>police officers, it does NOT as YOU - FALSELY CLAIM deny it to others.
It grants exception ONLY to LEOs.
Deal with it.
>It
>just makes it AUTOMATIC for LE officers.It also makes it MANDATORY.
>A clerk CANNOT deny it. You have this HUGE reading problem with English,
>maybe we can get it for you in Polish?
I clearly have a better grasp of English than you. Your own
posts prove that.
>
>>>That's NOT what it says anywhere.
>
>> Had you actually read it, you would have seen it does say that.
>
> Oh your problem IS Kunt,
I have no problem with vaginas. Given that you are a homosexual,
you might. You consistently PROVE you have a problem spelling the
slang.
>that I *DID* read it. You always believe that
>you can thjrow shit on the wall and NOBODY will EVER actually read the whole
>thing. You tried that with Glenn Roberts' site. You screwed the pooch there
>too.
Had you read it, you wouldn't be trying to lie and claim the
opinion is from Butterworth. That current Attorney General Bob
McCullum cited former AG Butterworth doesn't mean the opinion is
strictly Butterworth's.
This should be English 101 level understanding.
Had you actually EARNED your degrees, rather than buy them from a
diploma mill, you MIGHT understand.
>
>>>That is NOT what the opinion was about. BUT the GREAT Kunt Wills
>>>in his APPELLATE AUTHORITY - - OVERRULES the decisions and opinions and
>>>issues his OWN LEGAL OPINION.
>
>> Why do you LIE in EVERY post?
>> I've asked this of you MANY times. So far you've run away rather than
>> answer.
>> Please answer now.
>
> It's NOT what it says Kunt. There is NO proscriptive language IN that
>statute.
Liar.
>You are LYING!
Nope.
>WHat the statute says and what AG BUTTERWORTH was
It's AG McCullum's opinion. He simply cites Butterworth. And no
amount of your pathological lying will ever alter this.
>saying in his "advisory response to a Orange County Comissioner(Orlando) was
>that it was mandatory on the part of clerks to grant anonymity to law
>enforcement officers on real estate transactions. It was his opinion in
>1997 - that the clerks did NOT have ANY discretion on the matter that they
>HAD to seal those transactions IF requested. There is NO language that
>mandates that nobody else has a right to privacy and that LEO are the ONLY
>ones that can see privacy of the transactions.
Try reading the statute, dullard.
>NOT - DIPSHIT - does it
>divest the COURTS from sealing the records as YOU ARGUE.
Odd that the current Attorney General for the state of Florida
disagrees with you.
>
> Kunt you love to use that TIRED old line to everyone who disagree with
>your INSANE BULLSHIT. It's well half past OLD Kunt., YOU are the LIAR here.
>
And yet I have been able to prove your claim wrong. That you
continue to argue it, even after being proved wrong means you're
lying.
A mentally sound person, upon being proved wrong, would admit it.
You are unable.
> >>The FACT is Kunt the opinion in NO WAY limits the rights of OTHER Florida
>>>citizens and YOU RULE. Your BENCH RULING, as usual, Kunt, is BULLSHIT! It
>>>just does NOT say what you RULE it does.
>
>> It says what it says. You can't have the information regarding your
>> home's sale made confidential.
>> Provide a cite showing you can.
>
> Don't have to Kunt.
Only if you accept that it's been PROVED that you were and are
lying. In that case, you don't need to support your claim.
Since you can't support it, you actually CAN'T provide a cite.
>YOUR cite FAILS to support your INSANE claims! It
Lie all you want. The truth remains the truth.
>only said LEO's are ENTITLED to privacy NOT that everyone else is NOT! I
>hold out NO HOPE whatsoever that you could possibly understand that IF that
>was what the law said it would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL as hell.
>
And yet it's the law in Florida.