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David Brooks

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Jul 25, 2023, 6:59:36 PM7/25/23
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Hi folks!

When updating my old Toshiba laptop yesterday I espied a "Hidden
Network" apparently connected to my computer.

Here's a screenshot of what I saw:- https://jmp.sh/HovRfCR6

Can anyone provide some further insight, please.

--
David

Gremlin

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Jul 25, 2023, 8:34:06 PM7/25/23
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David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
news:qtYvM.56852$uEkc....@fx35.iad Tue, 25 Jul 2023 22:59:34 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> Hi folks!

It's cute you think you have friends and good relationships here. :)

> When updating my old Toshiba laptop yesterday I espied a "Hidden
> Network" apparently connected to my computer.

Why do you think it's connected to your computer?
It's not, I'm just asking you why you thought it was. I'm sure your answer
will give me just as much of, if not more, of a chuckle as when I read
this post of yours.

> Here's a screenshot of what I saw:- https://jmp.sh/HovRfCR6

A normal looking wireless network selection screen. It's a shame you have
to emulate snit as you're doing. Next you'll be uploading videos for such
crap as this.

> Can anyone provide some further insight, please.

Is google broken, old bean? Or, are you still unable to effectively use it?
The time it took you to write this post, and wait! for a single reply was
time you could have better spent googling it for an instant answer.

A hidden network is a wireless network that for a variety of reasons is
not broadcasting an SSID. As you can clearly see though, not doing that
doesn't really 'hide' the network. It can still be picked up; it just
doesn't have a name associated with it.

Technology isn't going to go away, David. Isn't it time you get with the
program and start to learn how the modern world around you actually works?

--
I was told I could avoid Jail if I went to therapy.
At my first session the therapist said to me, "Imagine a train is coming
towards you, what do you do?" I said, "I get in my helicopter and fly away"
He said, "Where did you get the helicopter from?" I said, "The same fuckin
place you got that train"

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 25, 2023, 11:28:42 PM7/25/23
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C'mon, dude... even you have kill filtered that bozo. Given what he is nary
a soul could blame you for pushing to be rid of his foolish form of BS.

What is your evidence? Lines of text containing your own words reflected
in a funhouse mirror. Other than Ryan Sullivan, who *doesn't* know what I'm
doing? Being open source as it is, the email infrastructure will never go
away but it'll never be popular.

For most I'd merely say the comment is doubtful. Of course, given that it's
Ryan Sullivan I would forget that doubt and go straight to 'ego-trip' because
that's most of what Ryan Sullivan does. Just call it a lie and watch him
beg you to prove it.


--
Dustin Cook 1-423-491-1448

T i m

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Jul 26, 2023, 4:04:27 AM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 01:34, Gremlin wrote:

<snip>

> Technology isn't going to go away, David. Isn't it time you get with the
> program and start to learn how the modern world around you actually works?
>
I don't think he can because he can only do things as per his dusty book
and that's not been updated (content / technology / morality) for a
couple of thousand years now. ;-(


Cheers, T i m

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 4:07:29 AM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 01:34, Gremlin wrote:
When I first noticed, I was actually CONNECTED to this "Hidden Network".

Was it yours?

Always wondering! ;-)

--
David

😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅

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Jul 26, 2023, 4:49:57 AM7/26/23
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That connection clearly indicates "secured". Your computer cannot
accidentally connect to it. A correct password is required.



David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 5:51:03 AM7/26/23
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Agreed! Can you suggest how I could/should investigate further?

I've mainly been using Apple computers and devices since 2009 so,
although I grew up on Windows 3.1 and upwards, I'm somewhat rusty now.

Any suggestions will be welcomed.

--
David

Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 6:43:06 AM7/26/23
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If you connected to it without realising, then the SSID (network name)
and password must have been stored on the device you used.
Unless (of course) someone else logged into it from your device.
Let us know if your own router is in the list.

Ed

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 7:02:48 AM7/26/23
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Hi Ed :-)

I snipped the list - mine WAS showing at the top when I took the photograph!

I'd just done a complete 'Recovery' of the computer (Windows10) but it
is old now (maybe 10 years) and has been used for all manner of Internet
explorations over the years!

HTH

--
David


Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 7:13:13 AM7/26/23
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I'm trying to think of a good reason to hide your SSID, but can't find one.

For example, let's imagine you want to screen it from the eyes of
somebody. Well, if they tried to log onto it, couldn't find it, but then
noticed the new Hidden Network, they could simply click on that.

There must be something I'm overlooking here. Perhaps someone can tell us.

Ed

Andy Burns

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Jul 26, 2023, 7:18:38 AM7/26/23
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Ed Cryer wrote:

> I'm trying to think of a good reason to hide your SSID, but can't find one.

Hidden SSIDs are the "Don't tell him, Pike" of WiFi ...

Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 7:26:06 AM7/26/23
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A way more likely to confound any unwarranted access would be to rename
the SSID to something better camouflaged; BT-HJ132ZXC or EE-RTGJ097-19
or SKY-TYMKO180.
I have a local user who seems obsessed with renaming his/her SSID.
"Susan's private line", "Scarborough Fayre", "N's connection" are a few
I recall.

Ed

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 7:26:42 AM7/26/23
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Yup. Of course this is what we have to stop. Trolls who obviously have no
reason for being here other than to upset me. Which do you think is the
better troll? Snit Glasser or Carroll? I vote for Carroll; only because
he occasionally does figure out what he reads, even if, regrettably, he
forgets it sometimes moments later. Carroll lies so often that he has a
difficult time keeping track of his misrepresentations. Or his sock puppets
of course.

Any horrendously obsessive insomniac could easily do the same.


--
This broke the Internet!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Steve%20Petruzzellis%20narcissistic%20bigot
<https://youtu.be/xRvaRLlb3b8>
Dustin Cook is a functional illiterate fraud

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 8:19:26 AM7/26/23
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Perhaps you should read here? https://nordvpn.com/blog/what-is-ssid/

> For example, let's imagine you want to screen it from the eyes of
> somebody. Well, if they tried to log onto it, couldn't find it, but then
> noticed the new Hidden Network, they could simply click on that.

That seems like a security risk if ever there was one! ;-)

> There must be something I'm overlooking here. Perhaps someone can tell us.

A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml

His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.

Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.

--
David


Paul

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Jul 26, 2023, 9:17:39 AM7/26/23
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In Windows, that entry can be a "collection point for damaged Wifi info".

Regular services, during some sort of technical flap, can end up
classified as Hidden Networks, requiring the network stack to be reset
by the user.

The entry can "hide" multiple services which lack a broadcast SSID.
When you select that link and log in, you will be asked for a progression
of info, to identify which of the services of that class, you're
connecting to. So rather than showing multiple "Hidden Network" icons,
there is only one.

When I had a Wifi card in my desktop here, for test, nothing in
the neighbourhood was Hidden. They all had names.

The Wifi module in a lot of equipment, can be unplugged.
That's an option for those who feel they're connected to something naughty,
or that they're being spied on.

For David, unplugging is definitely the right answer.
No menu ?? Joy. That Ethernet connector on the machine works
just great for computing. No need of Wifi. This is why, when
I fitted Wifi cards for point to point test, I removed
them right afterwards. Not interested in Wifi. Or the
things that cause Wifi. I would be more in favor of Wifi,
if only the 60Ghz version was used, and the signal refused
to leave the room. That's my idea of Wifi.

Paul

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 9:18:16 AM7/26/23
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I am working on a system which will show off how weak OS X is. Is Snit
envious about The Flying Spaghetti Monster having five web sites warning
people about what he is, vs the single one he earned? Already moved on
from that. Keep up! Like most everyone else in COLA, The Flying Spaghetti
Monster relies on mainstream media to blindly inform his views on politics.
Ergo, he only knows and consents to the media stories which also are
the ones which paint socialists in an absurdly auspicious and moral view.
He's incontrovertibly dishonest, he got caught and he's doing the normal
face saving funny business taught in Trolling 101 as he tries to be given
a smattering of honor... but it blew up in his face. I just don't understand
the point in The Flying Spaghetti Monster continuing to repeat that lie,
when they know it's easily proved false. I will no longer bring up the
funniest, so far, series of tales they've written about me to date; because
two respected regulars did as I asked and told The Flying Spaghetti Monster
in no uncertain terms that they did, of course, forge me in regards to
that topic.

--
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<https://www.spokeo.com/Dustin-Cook/Tennessee/Kingsport/p40064865906>
https://az-gycc.org/category/gycc/
https://gibiru.com/results.html?q=%22functional%20illiterate%20fraud%22
Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 9:33:56 AM7/26/23
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:17:39 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Rbowman's allegation is misplaced first of all, and
not true second of all. Is Snit Michael Glasser seeking to be just as much
of a dishonest liar as Rbowman is already known as being? I have not confirmed
that the number: 423.491.1448 belongs to Rbowman. When I was being honest,
I wanted to be unprejudiced and open minded. I gave Rbowman more than a
rational person generally would.

Proof Rbowman accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png.


Rbowman: <XnsACC9F3...@z9kfcl9n7KHDpF0eI.64L>
-----
Yea, I call bullshit on that. Driver media doesn't have a valid
boot sector present. As a result, the machine wouldn't have
refused to reboot because the disk was left behind.
-----

A reasoned response would be for you to just note your error -- of course
you were wrong to say "the machine would not have refused to reboot because
the disk was left behind." That is in fact exactly what was happening.

And you were wrong to say I suggested this was true of machines other
than the one being noted in Carroll's trolling.
Several posters keep talking to Rbowman. To be clear, I can not indict
Snit Michael Glasser for getting angry but, frankly, I don't figure out
why he comes here other than to mess with Rbowman. Snit Michael Glasser
is far more interested in conversations as found in a technical venue and
trolling forums make him want to puke.

--
Rbowman is a pathological liar
Rbowman is a functionally illiterate fraud
Rbowman has a severe reading comprehension problem

...winston

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Jul 26, 2023, 11:46:13 AM7/26/23
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Paul wrote:
> The entry can "hide" multiple services which lack a broadcast SSID.

Since secured(password required to connect/acces) the difference in
other shown secured wifi networks is as you noted the SSID not broadcast.

In this case, it means nothing else.
- i.e. present due to the router or modem-router or Windows ability to
show it - just like all other secured networks


--
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 12:08:17 PM7/26/23
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Keep your AV up to date; keep your firewall active. And bear in mind
that the generation of kids whose delight it was to vandalise dad's new
technology has now grown into adulthood and acquired other interests.
The malware these days comes from highly tech-savvy criminals out to
make money, not win kudos.

Ed

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 12:49:39 PM7/26/23
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:19:24 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
>tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
>He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
>https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>
>His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>
>Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.

David, you must have a "Kick Me" sign on the back of your shirt. That's the same
shirt that has "I'm Stupid!" emblazoned across the front.

BTW, that's a nice blend of harmlessly true and blatantly false statements
you've made above. Good show, chum. Once again, you've shown everyone what you
are.

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 1:58:11 PM7/26/23
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Thank you, Ed. :-D

Although I don't believe that AV is strictly necessary on Windows 10, I
am actually running AVG on that machine.

Have you ANY idea how to remove "Hidden Network" - stop the words from
showing on my screen?

--
David

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 2:21:45 PM7/26/23
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You are safe as a Windows user can be.

Everyone is BoaterDave -- the oldest gag in the book. Over and over, the
demand is BoaterDave wants to "talk tech", but BoaterDave spends most of
his time whining about "trolling".
http://web.archive.org/web/20210414021502if_/https://ibb.co/vQ4M1sX
It was BoaterDave who was publicly asking how better to improve his trolling.



--
Dustin Cook's number, tied to Johnson City
<https://www.whitepages.com/phone/1-423-491-1448>

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 2:33:41 PM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 17:49, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:19:24 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
>> tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
>> He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
>> https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>>
>> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>>
>> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>
> David, you must have a "Kick Me" sign on the back of your shirt. That's the same
> shirt that has "I'm Stupid!" emblazoned across the front.

*NO* - don't be silly!

You're confusing me with Dustin. He reaped the whirlwind when once I was
a bit irritated with him and asked for some help! Proof, here:-

http://web.archive.org/web/20210414021502/https://ibb.co/vQ4M1sX

> BTW, that's a nice blend of harmlessly true and blatantly false statements
> you've made above. Good show, chum. Once again, you've shown everyone what you
> are.

Nothing false in what *I* say, "Kelly"! :-P

Dustin has NEVER accepted the truth. That's down to him, not me.

--
David
Who stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018

Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 2:37:07 PM7/26/23
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Get rid of that bloated AVG; Windows Security has been protecting my
boxes of tricks for years - successfully.
"Hidden Network" can be translated into other languages. Try Google
Translate or ChatGPT. Or maybe change Windows language.

Oh, and while you're speaking to ChatGPT, thank the little bot for its
recent chat with me. I went walking along the Rochdale Canal, and I
passed so many locks that I had to research. There are an average of 3
locks per mile; the reason being the up-and-downness of the landscape it
traverses.

Ed

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 3:07:50 PM7/26/23
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I think I'll do just that! Thanks for the prompt!

> "Hidden Network" can be translated into other languages. Try Google
> Translate or ChatGPT. Or maybe change Windows language.

I've been thinking about this! What I suspect is that it's part of the
UK National BT Wi-Fi system so that any BT subscriber can log-in to the
router of ANY BT customer and can use the Internet by providing their
own BT ID - or pay for the privilege! https://www.btwifi.co.uk/

> Oh, and while you're speaking to ChatGPT, thank the little bot for its
> recent chat with me. I went walking along the Rochdale Canal, and I
> passed so many locks that I had to research. There are an average of 3
> locks per mile; the reason being the up-and-downness of the landscape it
> traverses.

No need for AI! :-D

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/canal-and-river-network/rochdale-canal

It's one of the few British waterways which I've not navigated - my
narrowboat was just a few inches too long to get through some of the locks!

--
David

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 3:27:31 PM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 20:07, David Brooks wrote:
> It's one of the few British waterways which I've not navigated - my
> narrowboat was just a few inches too long to get through some of the locks!

*BELAY THAT*!!!

I'm misremembered - that wasn't the reason! That canal can take boats up
to 72 feet (the longest ones ever built). Perhaps it was because one has
to go through the middle of Manchester, a place most sensible boaters
avoid.
I can't be sure until my navigator returns from supervising the new
members of the Bridge club (cards, not waterways!)

Ed Cryer

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Jul 26, 2023, 3:29:21 PM7/26/23
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You might do better navigating from Loch Ness into Loch Lochy.
https://www.scottishcanals.co.uk/locations/neptunes-staircase/

Here's a pic of my last voyage through that thoroughfare;
https://tinyurl.com/26or8em5

Ed

David Brooks

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Jul 26, 2023, 4:25:59 PM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 20:28, Ed Cryer wrote:
> David Brooks wrote:
>> On 26/07/2023 20:07, David Brooks wrote:
>>> It's one of the few British waterways which I've not navigated - my
>>> narrowboat was just a few inches too long to get through some of the
>>> locks!
>>
>> *BELAY THAT*!!!
>>
>> I'm misremembered - that wasn't the reason! That canal can take boats up
>> to 72 feet (the longest ones ever built). Perhaps it was because one
>> has to go through the middle of Manchester, a place most sensible boaters
>> avoid.
>> I can't be sure until my navigator returns from supervising the new
>> members of the Bridge club (cards, not waterways!)
>>
>
> You might do better navigating from Loch Ness into Loch Lochy.
> https://www.scottishcanals.co.uk/locations/neptunes-staircase/

Indeed. They appear to be electrically operated!
(And in excellent condition)

> Here's a pic of my last voyage through that thoroughfare;
> https://tinyurl.com/26or8em5

*Fun* :-D

T i m

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Jul 26, 2023, 4:33:32 PM7/26/23
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On 26/07/2023 20:28, Ed Cryer wrote:

<snip>

> Here's a pic of my last voyage through that thoroughfare;
> https://tinyurl.com/26or8em5
>

We went out on 'Nessie Hunter IV' with George Edwards when motorcycle
touring Scotland one year.

He had previously videoed the bottom of the Loch (Ness) and it was
interesting to see how flat and empty it was (because it was previously
a V shaped valley that had partly filled with sediment).

Too dark for any vegetation to grow, outside the very edges so nothing
much down there for animals to live on, especially big ones. ;-)

https://www.scotsman.com/news/loch-ness-monster-george-edwards-faked-photo-1559067

Cheers, T i m

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 5:09:46 PM7/26/23
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:33:38 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>On 26/07/2023 17:49, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:19:24 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
>>> tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
>>> He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
>>> https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>>>
>>> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>>>
>>> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>>
>> David, you must have a "Kick Me" sign on the back of your shirt. That's the same
>> shirt that has "I'm Stupid!" emblazoned across the front.
>
>*NO* - don't be silly!

What was silly? You keep showing everyone how intellectually damaged you are.
That's on you.

>You're confusing me with Dustin.

You're confusing me with someone who doesn't know better. I've known about you
and your shady ways for at least a dozen years. I'm not likely to confuse you
with someone else. That wasn't even a good try, on your part.

>He reaped the whirlwind when once I was
>a bit irritated with him and asked for some help!

You're hopelessly delusional. I'd suggest drinking less, but it seems that the
damage is done.

>> BTW, that's a nice blend of harmlessly true and blatantly false statements
>> you've made above. Good show, chum. Once again, you've shown everyone what you
>> are.
>
>Nothing false in what *I* say, "Kelly"! :-P

Oh really? Shall I point it out, or will you just run away and hide behind "I
was teasing!", like you always do?

>Dustin has NEVER accepted the truth. That's down to him, not me.

I guess you've missed most of his posts then. That's down to you.

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 5:14:12 PM7/26/23
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 18:58:09 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>Although I don't believe that AV is strictly necessary on Windows 10, I
>am actually running AVG on that machine.

Poor choice.

>Have you ANY idea how to remove "Hidden Network" - stop the words from
>showing on my screen?

Turn off the WiFi or find the owner of that access point and ask them to
reconfigure on your behalf.

What's with the childish questions, David? This stuff is so basic that even a
simpleton like you shouldn't have any problems with it.

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 5:20:27 PM7/26/23
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:19:24 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>On 26/07/2023 12:12, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> I'm trying to think of a good reason to hide your SSID, but can't find one.
>
>> For example, let's imagine you want to screen it from the eyes of
>> somebody. Well, if they tried to log onto it, couldn't find it, but then
>> noticed the new Hidden Network, they could simply click on that.
>
>That seems like a security risk if ever there was one! ;-)

In what way? There are downsides of hiding your SSID but security risk isn't
likely to be at the top of that list. What does your AI say?

You know what? You won't answer my question about the security risk. Instead, if
you reply at all, you'll give me a link to somewhere that you hope will explain
it for you, but I'm not interested in your links and very rarely, like almost
never, click on them. You know why.

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 5:27:53 PM7/26/23
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 09:07:27 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
No, you weren't.

In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
goes out the window.

You and honesty appear to be complete strangers. That's not a good look.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 6:53:10 PM7/26/23
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Dustin Cook AKA Diesel AKA Gremlin lying about his 1-423-491-1448 phone number:

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
Prior to my giving you that cell number, there was no way
at all for you to link it to me in any possible way shape
or form. it doesn't come up in any records search on me.
It is using a recycled number, but damn near everything is
these days so that doesn't count as public information,
snit.
...
As in, the cell doesn't come back to me, wouldn't ever
come back to me, therefore the fact *I* have that cell
number is NOT public information. I find it very hard to
believe that even you'd have difficulty understanding this
concept.
-----

<XnsAC32AD...@VoX89Pwp95.083.GODrcd>
-----
I've only been sharing whats available via a public
database. You haven't. :)
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
You cannot find any link to that number to me on any
database. Which makes it private. not public as you
incorrectly assume.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
> Your number, even tied to your name, is in a public
> database.

No, it's not. You already tried to link the two of us
previously.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
It's not a publically known number that links to me. And
he knows that.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
The number is NOT TIED TO ME in any public database, in
any way shape or form. You cannot get the number aside
from my having provided it to you via a google search or a
public records search.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
Regardless of where the number shows up, it doesn't tie
itself to me, and you cannot associate the number with me
via a google search, OR any number of free/paid public
records searches. Therefore, that is PRIVATE information
that you think you're holding over my head, not public as
you erroneously think here.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
It's not, running my name doesn't provide that cell
number. The two are not linked in any way shape or form.
The number itself as is the case with any recycled number
is in all kinds of databases, but it's not linked to me;
therefore, that IS PRIVATE information that you can't get
via a google search or a paid public records search.
-----

<XnsAC1D79...@889n4Sx8GWE.MNnkz50hZNVS.fh0SYyRp>
-----
They are relevant to the fact YOU INSERTED the phone
number I provided you verbally into a bogus call log video
you've taken the time to create. When I use the cell I
provided you the number for to make outbound calls, It
*ALWAYS* reports Kingsport, TN. Not one single time has it
ever, nor would it have any reason to report Johnson City.
It doesn't pick cities at random, it doesn't go by my
present location, either. That's actually fixed, as is the
number assigned to the phone.
-----

<XnsAC17C6...@4uMkH0FFER6s72gSy7J8N4B67.Mht3WTC373bt67J31gn>
-----
You didn't even score the right city, Snit. And, the
correct city is common, public knowledge with the regulars
here. The moment you unblocked 'Johnson City' in your
videos, you were busted.
-----

<XnsAC212D...@gt3i2B7y.5N0FOv3e210vLOej4O4doj8b>
-----
David, every single Address you've posted that's supposed
to be mine has been Kingsport. Not Johnson City. Don't you
think you should tell snit that was a fuckup on his part
by now? :)
-----

<XnsAC2110...@3R4NM89td0T86C.231IPkH>
-----
His response to that was to file a report with the
kingsport,tn police. Well hell, why not the johnson city
ones? That's where he claimed the call said it originated
from. :)
-----

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David Brooks

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*How could YOU possibly know that*?!!!

> In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
> either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
> goes out the window.

Maybe I'll fire it up again tomorrow and see if I can 'log on' again.

> You and honesty appear to be complete strangers. That's not a good look.

You are totally wrong about so very many things!


David Brooks

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On 26/07/2023 22:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> I've known about you
> and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.

That's hard to believe.

What posting name were you using way back then?

Do tell! 🙂

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 10:11:15 PM7/26/23
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:04:48 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
Quite simple.

In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
goes out the window.

>> In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
>> either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
>> goes out the window.
>
>Maybe I'll fire it up again tomorrow and see if I can 'log on' again.

Maybe, but probably not. When you sleep, the slate gets wiped clean. Every day
starts from scratch with you.

>> You and honesty appear to be complete strangers. That's not a good look.
>
>You are totally wrong about so very many things!

Perhaps, but I'm not wrong about you.

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 26, 2023, 10:13:43 PM7/26/23
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:06:39 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>On 26/07/2023 22:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> I've known about you
>> and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.
>
>That's hard to believe.

Why? You've been making a name for yourself for a very long time now. AFAIK, you
were strictly Boater Dave back then, unlike the multitude of nyms you've used
since then, but you were the same slimy stalker that you are now.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 10:21:47 PM7/26/23
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It's a decades long story, and Apd is simultaneously unable to stop his
trolling remarks, while posting with nyms that speak just like him. I usually
go post by post unless someone has a habit of particularly drastic trolling.
With Apd, I already understand what his approach is, all he seeks is abuse
and, of course, he will do ANYTHING to get it. His number one routine is
to play 'victim' but reality shows it is all of Usenet who are his victims.
His dream is to see me annoyed by idiotic lying. And hey, that could happen.
At some point, if you bother to read... you'd see that Apd's game is to
'casually' incite people and then play 'fool'.

It's Apd's problem but he blames Snit. Obviously he would rather blame
others than face reality.

-
Dustin Cook 1-423-491-1448

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 26, 2023, 10:37:50 PM7/26/23
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Gee, imagine Kelly Phillips trying to pin his crap on me or others, no
one has ever seen that before 8|.

I guess this is what comes about when really bad pride takes over Kelly
Phillips's every moment. You're like a pregnant woman hiding behind a
very skinny tree. We all see you sitting there and let you know. And you're
so stupid you keep failing to see it. Now Snit on the other end of the
phone doesn't matter. All that matters is Kelly Phillips gets to deliver
the punchline. So how to win? Don't answer the phone. Honest discussion
isn't part of Kelly Phillips's plan and never will be. Kelly Phillips
claimed the headers were entirely consistent with many of the nyms. Well,
why is he having such trouble backing his assertion up when asked to do
so? That is, if his statement was actually true, and not just a weak attempt
to come to Snits rescue?

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Gremlin is a functionally illiterate fraud
Gremlin has a severe reading comprehension problem

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 3:07:55 AM7/27/23
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The guy is as loved as ants at a picnic -- and with good reason.

Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI showed himself to be a bigot
by having the pretense to not speak to Snit through loudly announcing
'Into the bin with you!' and then berating him anyway through a 3rd party.
Bravo, Snit, you are now living rent-free inside Dustin Cook and his imaginary
friend HHI's beady little brain.

I did not even know Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI already
had a record of not only forging so called evidence, but also having already
been caught openly doing it and trying to pass it off as if people could
not tell.

It's a spam message. Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI has already
decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say does not
matter. What Snit says is beside the point.


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wasbit

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Jul 27, 2023, 5:12:42 AM7/27/23
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On 26/07/2023 13:19, David Brooks wrote:
>
> snip <
>
> A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
> tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
> He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
> https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>
> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>
> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>

That's your opinion because he proved you wrong on more than one occasion.
He has always been very helpful to non trolls.

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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 6:18:22 AM7/27/23
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Diesel: functionally illiterate fraud. It's as predicted that Kelly Phillips
faked apathy at the condition of being believed credible -- knowing that
it is inconceivable to ever happen.

Kelly Phillips's essentially duping Glasser Michael Snit to keep feeding
him by trying to 'produce screen casts', specifically, his poor code and
Glasser Michael Snit's efforts to help him become a better engineer. He
needs debate, and as long as you're willing to continue happily give it,
he will remain. What's the group coming to when a Kelly Phillips sock/shill
can not get any responses?

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<https://findwhocallsyou.com/4234911448?CallerInfo>

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 6:33:56 AM7/27/23
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:37:50 PM UTC-7, Stefen Carroll - fretwizen wrote:
I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's a bit different.

Wolffan: <rqebpk$f4d$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
-----
> An "entire bot"? Meaning you are saying it is part of one?

That's all any of the code demos I've shown Shadow
are, for years now.
-----

But then Wolffan flip flops:

Wolffan: <rqk10g$j1c$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
-----
So... these are "parts" the size of "code snippets", written in
AS, in this thread, not "the past"
(gain some self control and dry out)."
-----

Wolffan starts with "for years now" but then denies that is in the past.
And Wolffan insists the code from the past was not tied to bots... directly
contradicting themselves. His wish is to see me chased away by killing of
any discussion. And hey, that could happen.

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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 7:21:59 AM7/27/23
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It's his problem and he has to want to deal with it. Obviously he would
rather blame others than face reality.

Gee, imagine David trying to pin his balderdash on Snit, no one has ever
seen that before <sarcasm>. Thanks to David and his 'convenient friends'
you now need an approved list. If others start responding to him again I
will not be able to stop myself... as that is just my way. I'm referring
to good people here, not idiots, who are mostly him talking to himself.
Amusingly, David virtually asked Snit for his phone number to be Google
seeded. That is the problem with millennials and American pupils don't understand
why older people are better; people from pre-tech generations (~50 yo) SHOULD
know better than to fall for the New World agenda. Obviously, the lone thing
that is important to David is seeming "honorable", and if he can not have
that he will do whatever it takes to shout truly honest people down... there
is no stopping him.

--
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He clearly wants the attention"
Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 7:53:18 AM7/27/23
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Like most everyone else in the world, Toasty relies on false news to form
his stances on subjects. That being the case, he only knows and consents
to the accepted claims which also are the ones which portray conspiracy
theories in a highly auspicious and reasonable view. Dropping support for
anything Toasty uses is what it comes down to.

The fabricator does it every time. Then the flood begins. Because the milquetoast
just has to run to other groups to get the attention he's not getting here.

Right, Toasty is looking to produce an HTML reference, which anyone can
get for free, that is looped over as it removes nodes. If he wasn't so dumb
he would get how stupid he looks ;)

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Dustin Cook AKA Gremlin is a functionally illiterate fraud
Dustin Cook AKA Gremlin has a severe reading comprehension problem

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 8:09:36 AM7/27/23
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This is what Carroll does: he points to comment ABOUT people (made from
real people or socks), no matter how unsupported, and calls that evedence
even as he ignores what the target of his accusations actually has said.

Meanwhile I just point to what Carroll says:

<rrdeqo$kog$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>

And the reply:

<zctCH.2588$rY1...@fx40.iad>

Carroll admits to, at the very least, threats of harassing my employer,
then tries to minimize it by saying multiple posts somehow count as just
"one incident" of his outrageous behavior.

Then Carroll bizarrely insists people should WANT to be harassed by him
because that gives them a chance to prove they are innocent. Utter insanity!

He directly admits to the threats but tries to pretend he did not follow
through, but he gives away his game with this comment:

-----
...here you *still* are, trying to make it appear that *I* should
feel guilty for blowing the whistle
-----
He refers to his harassment as "blowing the whistle" -- but does not
speak of feeling guilty IF he had done so, but speaks about HAVING done
so. He tried to deny it, but then made it clear he harassed my employer.

To add more support to his admission there, he claims to not understand
how harassing people is bad, or how innocent people can be harmed by his
harassment. He admits he cannot see what is wrong with such harassment,
but then pretends he was stopped by some anonymous Jiminy Cricket who
made him rethink how wrong his actions are. Why does he contradict himself
so much?

In short: He proves much of what I have been saying about him right there.
His words. No need to dig back.

After he screwed up, and as predicted, "new" people showed up. While
he currently is denying he uses such socks, in the past he has admitted
to it:

<d278fe60-ce88-403d...@googlegroups.com>
-----
I faked those Mac accounts, (i.e Toasty) because you
deserved it
-----

Yeah, he does bad things because his victims deserve it. That is his
worldview... he needs his anonymous Jiminy Cricket to stop him. He cannot
stop himself.

--
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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 10:48:09 AM7/27/23
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Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI is trying again to slime clamxAV.

Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI claimed the evidence were entirely
consistent with many of the forgeries. Well, why is he having such trouble
backing his assertion up when asked to do so? In other words, if his statement
was even mostly correct, and not just a dishonest attempt to come to Snits
rescue? Perhaps you use it erroneously. Do you not realize the use of proxies?
Dustin Cook and his imaginary friend HHI is a crazed lunatic who regularly
claims anyone who disagrees with Snit to be a sock and, still, he needs
us to believe that is true. Gotta be glue.

I am working on a program which will blow what Linux has away. Right now
there are too many "works for me" circuitry users and not enough programers
with the time to help the people with Macs.


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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 11:20:13 AM7/27/23
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https://secure.tennesseetrustee.org/index.php?main=Y

Select Sullivan County
Select Pay/Search Property Taxes
Enter 108 Warrior Drive
On second line click View

Why does Dustin Cook's family owe $4,742.45 in property taxes on a home
worth only $115,500

Rodney Wood has been a bad boy it seems!

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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 12:56:50 PM7/27/23
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It's evident when FromTheRafters habitually uses the word 'conservative'
the way Clinton does, to the point where the word becomes polarizing.

FromTheRafters's stupendous "troubleshooting mastery" distracted him from
an extension he wants that Snit Michael Glasser found in seconds for this
application. These posts are clearly *not* automated, they are made by a
glue sniffing stalker with a personal vendetta who has way too much time
on his hands.

I thought showing FromTheRafters a little generosity might help the situation.
It did not.

Just look at your programs and look at Snit Michael Glasser's, there is
nothing for Snit Michael Glasser to learn from a jerk like FromTheRafters.
But knock yourself out, let him keep making a dunce of himself. I am sure
one of his stooges will come to the rescue.


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Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud
Dustin Cook has a severe reading comprehension problem

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 1:28:59 PM7/27/23
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It won't matter because the FROM line on a post does not matter, it's the
content that counts. The text of the post is a bunch of baby sh*t. Only
glue sniffing would lead to that.

BoaterDave's essentially misleading Snit (a real advocate) to keep feeding
him by trying to 'develop websites', specifically, his weak skills and Snit
(a real advocate)'s efforts to help him become a better engineer. He needs
recognition, and as long as you're willing to continue directly providing
it, he will remain.

His dream is to see me chased away by idiotic lying. And hey, that could
happen. Steven Petruzzellis: Narcissistic Bigot.

BoaterDave is just thrilled that Snit (a real advocate) is on the other
end. Imagine if BoaterDave walked up to a footstool and delivered the punch
line. It wouldn't be rewarding. Both Snit (a real advocate) and Sagan had
their malfunctions and their mistakes. One played it dishonestly and didn't
do anything too publicly that could not be proved with tricks. In regards
to working toward cordiality, it appears that in order for Snit (a real
advocate) to do that, he has to give BoaterDave a do-over for every disgusting
remark he's made about Snit (a real advocate), and discount every single
false lie he's posted about Snit (a real advocate) as well.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 3:52:37 PM7/27/23
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Usenet is a sovereign non-organization based on shared ethics. Other than
Pothead, who *doesn't* know what I'm doing? Pothead is STILL fixated on
exclusively himself, as I predicted, when it comes to the question of
puppetry. And he completely snips the proof that his "friend" has not
only admitted to engaging in that against Michael Snit Glasser but he's
said he sees it to be no big deal... a non-issue. I'm guessing, after
ignoring all the nyms from Pothead, it's primarily just two of them authoring
the preponderance of the disruption. Yes. And both absolutely crackpots.
Pothead's posts are nothing but a senseless babble.

David Brooks

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Jul 27, 2023, 5:00:52 PM7/27/23
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On 27/07/2023 03:13, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:06:39 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 26/07/2023 22:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>> I've known about you
>>> and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.
>>
>> That's hard to believe.

>> What posting name were you using way back then?

>> Do tell! 🙂

> Why? You've been making a name for yourself for a very long time now. AFAIK, you
> were strictly Boater Dave back then, unlike the multitude of nyms you've used
> since then, but you were the same slimy stalker that you are now.

It seems to me that *YOU* are the one hiding behind a pseudonym, petal! xx

David Brooks

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Jul 27, 2023, 5:04:17 PM7/27/23
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False

>>> In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
>>> either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
>>> goes out the window.
>>
>> Maybe I'll fire it up again tomorrow and see if I can 'log on' again.
>
> Maybe, but probably not. When you sleep, the slate gets wiped clean. Every day
> starts from scratch with you.

I didn't get a round tuit. I spent quite a few hours with my sick
neighbour again today.

>>> You and honesty appear to be complete strangers. That's not a good look.
>>
>> You are totally wrong about so very many things!
>
> Perhaps, but I'm not wrong about you.

Yes, dearest, you are! :-P

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 27, 2023, 7:44:29 PM7/27/23
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:00:50 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>On 27/07/2023 03:13, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:06:39 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/07/2023 22:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>> I've known about you
>>>> and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.
>>>
>>> That's hard to believe.
>
>>> What posting name were you using way back then?
>
>>> Do tell! ?
>
>> Why? You've been making a name for yourself for a very long time now. AFAIK, you
>> were strictly Boater Dave back then, unlike the multitude of nyms you've used
>> since then, but you were the same slimy stalker that you are now.
>
>It seems to me that *YOU* are the one hiding behind a pseudonym, petal! xx

Are you one of the weirdos who keeps poking around my social media accounts?

Remember, I've known about you and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 27, 2023, 7:49:39 PM7/27/23
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:04:13 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
Not false. It's a Secure network, meaning you have to provide a password in
order to connect. There is no logical way you could have already been connected
when you first noticed, as you claimed above. Your claim was false.


>>>> In order to connect to that network, you'd have to provide the proper password,
>>>> either this time or a previous time, so your claim of "When I first noticed"
>>>> goes out the window.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll fire it up again tomorrow and see if I can 'log on' again.
>>
>> Maybe, but probably not. When you sleep, the slate gets wiped clean. Every day
>> starts from scratch with you.
>
>I didn't get a round tuit. I spent quite a few hours with my sick
>neighbour again today.

I'm shocked that you didn't follow up. Shocked, I tell you. LOL


>>>> You and honesty appear to be complete strangers. That's not a good look.
>>>
>>> You are totally wrong about so very many things!
>>
>> Perhaps, but I'm not wrong about you.
>
>Yes, dearest, you are! :-P

Nothing that you're able to quote.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 27, 2023, 7:53:12 PM7/27/23
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After the latest update I no longer have a working system. Thanks Linux!
Plenty of posters continue talking to Pothead. Frankly I can't blame Snit
Glasser for being annoyed but I do not grasp why he posts here at all.
Snit Glasser is hoping for discussions as is common in a technical environment
and advocacy environments clearly make him want to puke. Snit Glasser can
create a virtual machine. Let's make sure he gets all the cookies in the
world! Lines of text containing hints and signs.

LOL! How did Pothead get so conceited he believes everything is about
him??

Yup. Sadly this is what we have to defeat. Psychopaths who clearly have
no reason for being here other than to flood.

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David Brooks

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:14:30 AM7/28/23
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Send me a Friend Request and we can get to know one another properly.

> Remember, I've known about you and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.

No, you haven't! You are a *TROLL*

--
David

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 28, 2023, 4:05:16 AM7/28/23
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It's his problem and he has to want to deal with it. Obviously he would rather
blame others than face reality. How long has this debate been going on?

Apd's posts are nothing but a meaningless word salad. "Well, that wasn't
hard" said Apd's girlfriend.

At some point, if you bother to pay attention... you would see that Apd's
trick is to 'accidentally' incite people and then play 'fool'.

If Snit has 'a.pdf' open in an editor such as emacs and Apd wants to change
its name to 'windows.pdf' via a hot key, Snit's video might be useful, if
only to make sure file names are not the same. I bet Apd thinks my life was
rough.

--
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Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 28, 2023, 4:54:05 AM7/28/23
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Not long ago I did work on and showed some AppleScript for the front
end which is the only thing you can do when trying to avoid Rod Speed's
narcissistic crap while reading with Google Groups. With no proof at
all, as is expected for Rod Speed.

This forum is a puss-filled cyst. At one point, he said a legitimate
denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was shown to be merely him posting
to himself. Besides Rod Speed, who doesn't know what I'm doing?

--
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<https://youtu.be/xRvaRLlb3b8>
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dustin+Cook+the+functional+illiterate+fraud
Steve Carroll the Narcissistic Bigot

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 28, 2023, 7:49:09 AM7/28/23
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Time to blame anything but Linux! Who does NOT know that this kind of bull
is Pothead's modus operandi, not the MO of Michael Snit Glasser? It is all
just nonsense... the endless posting, the sock puppets, the writing of drivel,
the temper... the diaper rash and willingness to show how distressed he
is over being kicked from the playground for pooping in it again... all
of it ;)

Pothead and Michael Snit Glasser both lie nonstop and shamelessly and continue
to do so. So no point in showing any further courtesy or honor.


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Dustin Cook the Fraud

Kelly Phillips

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Jul 28, 2023, 12:17:05 PM7/28/23
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:14:27 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>On 28/07/2023 00:44, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:00:50 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/07/2023 03:13, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:06:39 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26/07/2023 22:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>> I've known about you
>>>>>> and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's hard to believe.
>>>
>>>>> What posting name were you using way back then?
>>>
>>>>> Do tell! ?
>>>
>>>> Why? You've been making a name for yourself for a very long time now. AFAIK, you
>>>> were strictly Boater Dave back then, unlike the multitude of nyms you've used
>>>> since then, but you were the same slimy stalker that you are now.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that *YOU* are the one hiding behind a pseudonym, petal! xx
>>
>> Are you one of the weirdos who keeps poking around my social media accounts?
>
>Send me a Friend Request and we can get to know one another properly.

I already know you properly. Why do I have to keep reminding you of that?

>> Remember, I've known about you and your shady ways for at least a dozen years.
>
>No, you haven't! You are a *TROLL*

That's weak. You have low energy today.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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This is what comes about when really poor self esteem takes over Shadow's
worldview.

Now FromTheRafters on the other end of the line doesn't matter. All that
matters is Shadow gets to deliver his flood. So how to deal with this? Don't
reply to the moron. Reason isn't part of sport and never can be.

I have known AI programs who argue better than you do. Almost everything
Shadow says about anyone is a lie. Who isn't aware of this by now? How would
FromTheRafters believe me if you trust there's a possibility that Shadow
uses shills? That sincerely works in your brain? This is the new 'rule' by
those calling themselves 'liberals', you must 'vindicate' yourself, you are
no longer presumed innocent, you're assumed guilty until you clear your name,
which is not possible in this situation.

Gremlin

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Jul 31, 2023, 5:08:49 PM7/31/23
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David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
news:3v4wM.196834$AsA....@fx18.iad Wed, 26 Jul 2023 08:07:27 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 26/07/2023 01:34, Gremlin wrote:
> When I first noticed, I was actually CONNECTED to this "Hidden Network".

Nope. You'd have had to give it proper credentials. Your system indicates no
such effort on your part.

> Was it yours?

From across the pond, old bean? Hella radio tech I've got if that was the case,
wouldn't you say?

> Always wondering! ;-)

Always being a dumbass. No question.




--
I was told I could avoid Jail if I went to therapy.
At my first session the therapist said to me, "Imagine a train is coming
towards you, what do you do?" I said, "I get in my helicopter and fly away" He
said, "Where did you get the helicopter from?" I said, "The same fuckin place
you got that train"

Gremlin

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David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
news:gb8wM.215211$mPI2....@fx15.iad Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:19:24 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 26/07/2023 12:12, Ed Cryer wrote:
> A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
> tried for years to hurt other Internet users.

Not entirely true. I am a former blackhat, as well as former VXer who's long
since apologized, many times for the harm the code I wrote caused others.


> He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
> https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml

It's over two decades old, and long before you ever knew me, David. You had
no issues with that when you were emailing me. You asked me about it, infact
via email. If I really did that. I told you I did. I didn't lie to you, and
I did try to help you via email as per your requests.

It was only when I refused to do some blackhat shit for you that you decided
you had a problem with me. That's when you tried to dox me initially all
over usenet.

> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.

Yep.

> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.

caught and punished for what specifically, David?
And why are you even bringing this up? If you're going to go out of your way
to slime me as you're doing, you should be honest about it. Tell them that
you're upset with me because you couldn't hire me; to break into other
peoples equipment that you'd been banned from previously.

Why aren't you telling them that before you emailed me, pretending to need
help with an old antimalware program I wrote known as BugHunter, that you
already did a little stalking of me?

If you're going to write dirt on me, you should write all of it. You
wouldn't want people to mistakenly think you were trying to mislead them,
right?

Gremlin

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Jul 31, 2023, 6:20:43 PM7/31/23
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Ed Cryer <e...@somewhere.in.the.uk> news:u9rgdf$1hi5u$1...@dont-email.me Wed, 26
Jul 2023 16:07:47 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> David Brooks wrote:
>> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>>
>> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>>
>
> Keep your AV up to date; keep your firewall active. And bear in mind
> that the generation of kids whose delight it was to vandalise dad's new
> technology has now grown into adulthood and acquired other interests.
> The malware these days comes from highly tech-savvy criminals out to
> make money, not win kudos.

Hi Ed,

FWIW, You really shouldn't take anything David has written about me at face
value. He's leaving out considerable detail in his efforts to slime me here.

He didn't for example, mention that he had no problem with my past, that's
why he contacted me via email actually. He decided he had a problem with me
when I wouldn't use my former blackhat skills for his benefit. He wanted me
to break into two servers on his behalf. Two servers who ran forums he was
no longer welcome to be a member of; he'd violated the TOS of the servers
again and got himself an account ban. He wears them with pride.

He got so upset with my continued refusal to do some work for him, that he
tried to openly dox me on usenet, in multiple newsgroups and found no harm
in it. Only a couple of years later, when I returned the favor in spades did
he decide it wasn't so funny.

David Brooks is a very well known internet stalking kook, just so you know.

Gremlin

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Kelly Phillips <KF...@podcasts.org>
news:hcj2ciplmurja7p0k...@4ax.com Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:49:36
GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:19:24 +0100, David Brooks
> <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>>A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
>>tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
>>He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
>>https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>>
>>His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>>
>>Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>
> David, you must have a "Kick Me" sign on the back of your shirt. That's
> the same shirt that has "I'm Stupid!" emblazoned across the front.

Ayep.

> BTW, that's a nice blend of harmlessly true and blatantly false
> statements you've made above. Good show, chum. Once again, you've shown
> everyone what you are.

That's our David!

Gremlin

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wasbit <was...@nowhere.invalid> news:u9tce8$1rg9f$1...@dont-email.me Thu, 27
Jul 2023 09:12:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 26/07/2023 13:19, David Brooks wrote:
>>
> > snip <
>>
>> A poster here, Dustin J. Cook, is a former Black Hat Hacker and has
>> tried for years to hurt other Internet users.
>> He wrote real-life viruses and released them to the world. Here's one:-
>> https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml
>>
>> His current 'User Name' on the Usenet is Gremlin.
>>
>> Just so you know. He was never caught and punished.
>>
>
> That's your opinion because he proved you wrong on more than one
occasion.
> He has always been very helpful to non trolls.

Thanks! :) He's actually not upset with me about my past, he knew about
that before he reached out to me. My past is the reason he reached out to
me in the first place; he had a job he wanted done and mistakenly thought
he could con me into doing it for him. What he's doing is sliming me in
another newsgroup and attempting to mislead those who were kind enough to
respond to his query.

He mistakenly thinks this will cause me to ignore his friend, Snit.

Stefen Carroll - fretwizen

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Jul 31, 2023, 7:42:13 PM7/31/23
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I think David Shill Brooks does not even know what is wrong with Breitbart.
He claims that he uses macOS, while of course he never works with it
to get any real work done and honesty experienced it. So what is David
Shill Brooks's method for the flooding insanity? SC? That is the only
tool he knows, or admits to. He must be programming it to create these
stupid "group-killer" posts. Best hypothesis, David Shill Brooks took
a FireFox extension that he reverse engineered and try to sell online...
he is feeding it Snit's posts, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then scrambling
those using the Bellman–Ford algorithm and then he directly posts them
because his mental health issues enables him to do that almost round-
the-clock. In fact David Shill Brooks's lies became more vile. So needless
to say I regret not lashing out at David Shill Brooks. While I am sure
the trolls appreciated it, he has taught me to never try to appease a
troll. David Shill Brooks has yet to show how any Linux program does
anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux.

--
Steven Petruzzellis the narcissistic bigot

David Brooks

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Ed, and others, can read just how genuine you are, here, Dustin:-

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/ilCmXxd4MoY/m/S0NSZvs5BgAJ

One reason I really LIKE Usenet!

Btw, please tell the world that it was NOT me who first posted a Google
Street View of what they thought was your home.

I asked ONLY as a joke - which you, dear boy, took the wrong way (as you
so often do!)

--
David

Snit

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On Aug 1, 2023 at 6:16:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<HA7yM.27763$O8ab....@fx40.iad>:
He has a strong victim mentality.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Kelly Phillips

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 14:16:22 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
>One reason I really LIKE Usenet!

People can read just how genuine *you* are, David. Thanks for the opportunity.
https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php


>Btw, please tell the world that it was NOT me who first posted a Google
>Street View of what they thought was your home.
>
>I asked ONLY as a joke - which you, dear boy, took the wrong way (as you
>so often do!)

Get caught out, call it a joke. It's like you're following a script.

Snit Michael Glasser

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Aug 1, 2023, 1:36:37 PM8/1/23
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Amusingly, Larry Washington essentially asked The Flying Spaghetti Monster
for all the crap he has received. Good grief, just recently he was declaring
himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates"
(in mockery-quotes, because he is afraid of them) are actively working
against the success of desktop Linux. I have been reading a bit from some
of those old threads he was previously shown to be bragging about degrees
he does not have. I noticed that many of those he would go out of his
way to repeatedly attack had extensive high-tech knowledge. I didn't find
many who were also competent in the scripting side of things, or were
also trained as an programmer along with various aspects of IT; with the
degrees to back it all up, too.

I mostly go argument by argument unless someone has a past of particularly
intense flooding. With Larry Washington, I already intuit what his goal
is, all he hungers for is to 'win' and, regrettably, he'll do ANYTHING
to get it. His go to routine is to play 'easy mark' but reality shows
it's all of the regulars who are his marks.


--
Steve Carroll is a pathological liar
Steve Carroll is a functionally illiterate fraud
Steve Carroll has a severe reading comprehension problem

Steve Carroll

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Aug 1, 2023, 1:52:56 PM8/1/23
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Gasser's favorite was to call his BS a "mistake" until it was pointed
out how many 'mistakes' he was making, then his mistakes became 'jokes'.
Can you imagine adults believing other adults would buy this over and
over? Very weird.

Kelly Phillips

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Aug 1, 2023, 3:43:18 PM8/1/23
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David is so clumsy with this little game that it's just painful to see. I'm sure
Snit is no better at it.

Gremlin

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Aug 2, 2023, 12:23:05 AM8/2/23
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David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
news:HA7yM.27763$O8ab....@fx40.iad Tue, 01 Aug 2023 13:16:22 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 31/07/2023 23:20, Gremlin wrote:
[snip]

>> David Brooks is a very well known internet stalking kook, just so you
>> know.
>
> Ed, and others, can read just how genuine you are, here, Dustin:-
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/ilCmXxd4MoY/m/S0NSZvs
> 5BgAJ
>
> One reason I really LIKE Usenet!

Heh. That they can. They can see via the sections of our emails you shared
exactly how I treated you, even though you were getting a bit outside the
scope of support for BugHunter; which is what you initially emailed asking
me about. :)

The dirt you claim you have on me is what I shared with you via email; which
even at the time was for the most part, common knowledge for those who
already knew me, David.

> Btw, please tell the world that it was NOT me who first posted a Google
> Street View of what they thought was your home.

I didn't even so much as imply you were, David.

> I asked ONLY as a joke - which you, dear boy, took the wrong way (as you
> so often do!)

No, you didn't. And, I didn't take what you did the wrong way either. The
reason I know you weren't joking when you went and did it was because of how
many newsgroups you did it in, and the followup enjoyment you were having
over it. You did it to try and get my attention because you felt I was
taking too long to respond, and, because I turned you down again. I refused
to break into those servers for you.

That's all included in the so called 'Dirt' you have on me, too, David.

David Brooks

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It wasn't ME that made you into a 'bad guy', Dustin.

That's on you.

Perhaps I teased you too much, but you were VERY easy to troll! ;-)

pothead

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Aug 2, 2023, 8:15:12 PM8/2/23
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Here's a question for the experts, what if someone labeled their network name as
"Hidden Network", how would that show up?
I get that the network DB is speaking of is secured.


--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

Snit Michael Glasser

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Aug 2, 2023, 9:30:49 PM8/2/23
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Why do you think Peeler is trying to babysit Glasser Michael Snit? Even
he sees through the crap. He will not comment on *any* of the stuff I quote
because he sees it's true. An unceasing, acute, posting itch, regardless
of content - like slippery Mac-using camp followers, and well-lubricated
sheep, scared stiff by loud music for his own personal yearnings.

It's his problem but he does not care. Obviously he would rather blame
others than face reality.

I have not substantiated that the number: 1-423-491-1448 belongs to Glasser
Michael Snit.

--
<https://www.usphonebook.com/423-491-1448?Dustin-Cook&Diesel&Gremlin&LegionX&HHI>

Gremlin

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Aug 2, 2023, 10:23:24 PM8/2/23
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David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
news:%AAyM.377860$mPI2....@fx15.iad Wed, 02 Aug 2023 22:16:27 GMT in
I wasn't a 'bad guy' by the time you heard of me. That's what you didn't
realize when you tried to hire me for those very specific, proven, blackhat
skills I have.

Which you're contradicting when you support Snits bullshit efforts to twist
and project concerning the entire cloning discussion. He's blowing smoke up
your ass, and I strongly suspect you know that, but, you're playing along
with his continued efforts to slime me.

Is that why you haven't responded to Kelly when they called you out for
swallowing Snits bullshit hook line and sinker?

David, if what Snit was writing was true, why isn't anyone backing him? Why
instead do we see a poster, Kelly calling you out for believing it? If what
I wrote about the subject was bullshit, don't you think he and others would
be calling me out for it by now?

Do you really think a six year old file system would be 'new' to me, David?
I don't think you really believe that. I think you're playing along with
whatever snit writes about me, because I've really pissed you off. :)

> Perhaps I teased you too much, but you were VERY easy to troll! ;-)

It's always teasing with you when you get called out for doing very
dishonest shit towards someone else. I don't recallyou admitting you were
trollig me or anyone else previously though. Interesting.

Gremlin

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Aug 2, 2023, 10:23:25 PM8/2/23
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pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> news:uaerie$aoc3$4...@dont-email.me Thu, 03
Hahaha. I hope that isn't a rhetorical question. That said, one could verify
whether or not the networks SSID is Hidden Network, or if it's really not
broadcasting one.

Have you noticed that I've asked Snit and David, both, several times now,
why if Snits claims concerning what I did/didn't know about cloning were
true; why isn't anyone else backing him and calling me out? I'm not exactly
on the greatest of terms with everyone who posts here. There's no incentive
or benefit for anyone to remain silent and let me get away with talking shit,
about, anything.

Yet, so far, the only posts Snit or david has gotten about his claims
concerning my knowledge was from Kelly who didn't fall for Snits ruse... :)

I'm waiting for a logical explanation for that, but, I suspect hell will
freeze over long before I get one. What do you think?

Kelly Phillips

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Aug 2, 2023, 10:56:18 PM8/2/23
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 23:16:27 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
Just like no one else is responsible for you being a drunk, a sexual abuser of
your military subordinates, and more recently, a stalker and slimer of your
favorite software targets.

>Perhaps I teased you too much, but you were VERY easy to troll! ;-)

Good grief, you're clumsy and awkward when you try to be clever. Fail.

pothead

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Aug 2, 2023, 11:12:48 PM8/2/23
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Yep !!!
I was baiting snit !
LOL !
I think my question spun his head around like Linda Blair !

David Brooks

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Aug 3, 2023, 2:35:40 PM8/3/23
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On 03/08/2023 03:23, Gremlin wrote:
> David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
> news:%AAyM.377860$mPI2....@fx15.iad Wed, 02 Aug 2023 22:16:27 GMT in
> alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>
>> On 02/08/2023 05:23, Gremlin wrote:
>>> That's all included in the so called 'Dirt' you have on me, too, David.
>>
>> It wasn't ME that made you into a 'bad guy', Dustin.
>
> I wasn't a 'bad guy' by the time you heard of me. That's what you didn't
> realize when you tried to hire me for those very specific, proven, blackhat
> skills I have.
>
> Which you're contradicting when you support Snits bullshit efforts to twist
> and project concerning the entire cloning discussion. He's blowing smoke up
> your ass, and I strongly suspect you know that, but, you're playing along
> with his continued efforts to slime me.
>
> Is that why you haven't responded to Kelly when they called you out for
> swallowing Snits bullshit hook line and sinker?
>
> David, if what Snit was writing was true, why isn't anyone backing him? Why
> instead do we see a poster, Kelly calling you out for believing it? If what
> I wrote about the subject was bullshit, don't you think he and others would
> be calling me out for it by now?
>
> Do you really think a six year old file system would be 'new' to me, David?
> I don't think you really believe that. I think you're playing along with
> whatever snit writes about me, because I've really pissed you off. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8RjPAD2Jk

>> Perhaps I teased you too much, but you were VERY easy to troll! ;-)
>
> It's always teasing with you when you get called out for doing very
> dishonest shit towards someone else. I don't recallyou admitting you were
> trollig me or anyone else previously though. Interesting.

Please enter the fray on the ASC forum and let the gurus there school
you. If you dare!

David Brooks

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Snit Michael Glasser

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Aug 3, 2023, 3:35:59 PM8/3/23
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Carroll claims:

* You have two degrees, both in CS and you did not know IT was different.
* You have two degrees, both in IT.
* You have two degrees, one in IT and one in CS.
* You blame me for you confusing IT with IS though you offer no evidence.
* Your project your confusion and dishonesty onto me.

All trivial to show:

Carroll <XnsAB593F...@MjEwUG.BDMbgpk>:
-----
Well, I have two Masters myself, but they are in CS I
wasn't aware CS and I.T were/are seperate entities now.
-----

Carroll <XnsAC703A...@tkRp4lHo04W6T4lOY83W.tuvxq31.7>:
-----
Unlike yourself snit, I hold two honorary masters in IT
-----

Carroll <XnsAC703A...@tkRp4lHo04W6T4lOY83W.tuvxq31.7>:
-----
We discussed at length previously his masters in IS, and
mine in IT and the differences between them. He was quite
adamant that he had a masters in IS, *not* IT as is mine.
-----

Carroll <XnsAC75C8...@dcFn0WjC2iFiA86fj2h.35Y>:
-----
One is in CS, the other is in IT.
-----

Carroll <XnsAC703A...@tkRp4lHo04W6T4lOY83W.tuvxq31.7>:
-----
I'd also like to know how Snit could be so confused
concerning which degree he has.
-----

Other than you being a functionally illiterate fraud, how do you explain
any of that?

Snit

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Aug 3, 2023, 3:38:55 PM8/3/23
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On Aug 3, 2023 at 11:36:44 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<0tSyM.473156$TPw2....@fx17.iad>:
LOL!

Snit

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Aug 3, 2023, 3:39:47 PM8/3/23
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On Aug 3, 2023 at 11:36:44 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<0tSyM.473156$TPw2....@fx17.iad>:
LOL!

Snit

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Aug 3, 2023, 3:41:20 PM8/3/23
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On Aug 3, 2023 at 11:35:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<_rSyM.473125$TPw2....@fx17.iad>:
Gremlin has a challenge with the idea that six year old file system is newer
than the one Apple used starting in... 1986? Not sure. Around then. They did
update it later, but not completely redo it.

LOL! He really is sorta clueless. What common file systems are newer? It is
not like apps which get updated significant year by year.

And, of course, you saw how he was lost on the idea of a file copy not taking
any signifiant room, even for a 10 GB file.

Snit Michael Glasser

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Aug 3, 2023, 3:51:35 PM8/3/23
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Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Carroll started in
2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend obsessing over Carroll
(heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot>). Carroll
continued to respond to Steve for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out
in 2009 and started contacting Carroll's employer with the stated goal
to have him fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):

<http://goo.gl/OHNryA>
<http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
<http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>

There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive.
I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).

With that Carroll stopped responding directly to Steve except for *one*
chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Carroll* of running:
<http://goo.gl/racU64>.

Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
<http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>

Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense and
has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Carroll stopped
responding to him.

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.

--
Gremlin AKA Dustin Cook is a pathological liar
Gremlin AKA Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud
Gremlin AKA Dustin Cook has a severe reading comprehension problem

Steve Carroll

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Aug 3, 2023, 4:11:11 PM8/3/23
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On 2023-08-03, Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Perhaps I teased you too much, but you were VERY easy to troll! ;-)
>>>
>>> It's always teasing with you when you get called out for doing very
>>> dishonest shit towards someone else. I don't recallyou admitting you were
>>> trollig me or anyone else previously though. Interesting.
>>
>> Please enter the fray on the ASC forum and let the gurus there school
>> you. If you dare!
>
> Gremlin has a challenge with the idea that six year old file system is newer
> than the one Apple used starting in... 1986?

But you said it was "fairly new", didn't you? Given what you're apparently
*trying* to 'say' here, it seems it's more appropriate to claim it's
Apple's 'latest' FS or some such... but hardly "new" (maybe *their*
'newest'?) being that it's now 6 years old. From my POV it seems you
have a "challenge" with the definition of the word "new" <shrug>. Oh well,
I like these "new" talks we can have... where you're not 'doing what you
do'... there's more 'sharing and learning' this way :‑J

> Not sure. Around then. They did
> update it later, but not completely redo it.
>
> LOL! He really is sorta clueless. What common file systems are newer? It is
> not like apps which get updated significant year by year.

Is there an echo in here? Didn't Gremlin 'teach' you that? ;) OH! I get
it, you're trying to "show" that you *can* learn. Cool!

David Brooks

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I confess that I was surprised that he did not know.
There-again, I doubt he's ever owned an Apple computer.

Snit Michael Glasser

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Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
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Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
-----
No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
-----
No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him
is.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
-----
I didn't write that.
-----
Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked".
Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they
use two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone
or the like... but at least POSSIBLE.

Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts
you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because
someone in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.

Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very
hard to hack these days.

So already Carroll's story is unlikely.

But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing
the two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password
and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless
he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out.
The "hacker" got one post in.

But Carroll could not leave his story there.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
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Someone hacked my frelwizzen gmail acct so, for the time being,
don't trust anything from it.
-----
Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too
stupid to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll
*surely* must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker"
might still have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification
process *again*.

This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.

Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was
hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts!
LOL! He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and
felt the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next
quote where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was
hacked. Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify
which one!

He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only
one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
-----
Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'frelwizzen' gmail account
so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
anything that's coming from it was written by me.
-----
He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just
changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already
done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your
account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack
mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And
he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses
more than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account
is a lie. Proved.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
-----
Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
I may have to kill the account.
-----
What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions
other than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And
how would someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list?
Seems you would need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches
too much TV where they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass
all security.

Just nonsense.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/5QXJHXq8d1k/ujK_-
8ZYUnwJ
-----
Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
-----
But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already
alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-
step authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems
someone is trying to hack you.
-----
They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
-----
So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things
- and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can
be using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test
in any way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation,
which is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make
it public information so the hacker would not know.

Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims
it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account -
the one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account -
to have plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working
to do the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report
like this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the
part where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers
change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
-----
There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
-----
Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with
"hackers" and "forgers" which do not even exist.

The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver
area, likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from
an Internet café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace
back).

My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and
figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even
more than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I
had talked about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just
copying his comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am
to see how absurd his lies are. :)

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
-----
The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
one standing for some odd reason.
-----
Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his
from *before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only
can *post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.

I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then
Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this
is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public
and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes
it is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories
that make *no* sense at all.

Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories?
Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence
to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
-----
And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
password protected ;)
-----
Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll
says they did.

Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device)
and he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated
remotely? Why has he not said anything about this?

My guess: he realizes he screwed up when trying to guess my passwords
and is now building a story so he can say his computer was stolen and
it was not him. Or, LOL, maybe someone broke into his house and did it.

This unknown hacker knew he was obsessed with me and carried on acting
like him. Makes complete sense, eh?

Carroll, 4/12/2015 8:45 AM, <https://goo.gl/KMf4pa>:
-----
The first one, that has since been deleted. My bad for having such
a feeble password on this account.
-----
Now he suggests it was merely from someone guessing his password - which
contradicts his above insinuations that it could have been from a saved
password on a device he had.

His story changes with the telling.

But as noted, when someone tries to guess your password Google has ways
to deal with it. I know - Carroll or someone in his neck of the woods
recently tried it with me.

Carroll, 4/12/2015 9:29 AM:
-----
The account in question here is a gmail account. Contrary to
Snit's delusions, I have no idea what a TOR account looks like but
it's a good bet it doesn't bear much of a resemblance to a gmail
account.
-----
Here Carroll plays stupid and pretends that if when he or anyone uses
the Tor browser *Carroll* pointed to this somehow changes the way the
gmail interface looks. Um, no. Worse it might do is make Google think
you are in another country and you would have to set it back to English.
But the basic look stays the same.

He is playing stupid and pretending to not know how the Tor browser
he pointed to works. Just idiotic of him.
-----
That idiocy aside, I love how Snit has repeatedly, for years,
feigned ignorance about gmail accounts, yet, he keeps disclosing
info that proves he knows about them. Some fools do stuff like
this when they believe people are as stupid as the fool needs them
to be ;)
-----
I do not think Google would allow you to edit your Usenet / groups posts
but I do not use it much and do not know for sure. Seems absurd that
they would... and others have now said they do not. But given how I do
not use Google Groups for posting why would I know the details of their
system for certain?

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:47 PM:
-----
Your obsession with me is insane. Working with Google I now have
proof you and ebot worked together to hack me. Clever. If I press
charges against you I have to also include her so you remain safe
for now.

Do not think this is over.
-----

No evidence of working with Google on this (and all out and out lies).
Carroll is making public threats based on lies.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:50 PM:
-----
I promised COLA your trolling days were over so you contacted ebot
and worked with her to hack my account. I might not be able to get
your ass handed to you in court over this but wait until your boss
at Yavapai College contacts you.

Maybe you should make that call first. Ask about your comments on
incest.

See if those can not be quoted.
-----

Direct lies and threats by Carroll.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:51 PM:
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You went too far this time Snit. We have trolled each other for
years but to contact ebot and get her to help you hack my account
was over a line.
-----

A complete and utter lie from Carroll.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:52 PM:
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The above post is Snit hacking my account.
-----
A complete and utter lie... more false accusations from him.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:53 PM:
-----
You edited those posts when you hacked my account. Do not trust
anything from my frelwizzen account now that Snit and ebot have
access to it.
-----
More unsupported claims and attacks by Carroll.

Carroll, 4/16/2015 8:56 PM:
-----
Working with Google I now have proof Snit and ebot hacked the
account. Many of the older posts were edited. You can see evidence
of this by Snit pointing to "old" posts which have been modified
to
say I claimed I was his "personal newsgroup rapist", a phrase I
have never used.
-----

No evidence of Carroll working with Google. No evidence of any older
posts being edited.

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Snit Michael Glasser

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It was Snit sock Prescott Computer Guy who forged me (and others) and admitted
to having done so.

Being an open format as it is, the listserv concept will never go away
but it'll never be common. I am about to plonk him, myself. Like all trolls,
he's constantly looking for some way to attack, no matter how ridiculous
the charge. I will not read his response to this post. He's embarrassed,
wants to save face, and will lash out. Most likely leading-off with a snobbish
"LOL", as if what I've written is SO absurd. That BADish "game plan" was
him going too far, for me.

For most I'd suggest the comment is questionable. Of course, given that
it's Snit sock Prescott Computer Guy I would dump that doubt and go straight
to 'trolling' because that's most of what Snit sock Prescott Computer Guy
does. No need to find evidence before accusing Snit sock Prescott Computer
Guy of lying. Snit sock Prescott Computer Guy has toned down the zillions
of self promoting, senseless posts he used to knock off but he's not much
different in the truthfulness territory. He simple uses socks more to produce
those attacks.

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Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud

Snit

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On Aug 3, 2023 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<z3UyM.473437$TPw2....@fx17.iad>:
As he later noted, though, this is not unique to APFS. Might be the most
common file system to do this, though.

I am OK with him not knowing... it was his outrageous behavior around it which
was the issue.

Char Jackson

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 19:35:38 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

>Please enter the fray on the ASC forum and let the gurus there school
>you. If you dare!

Please put down the bottle. If you dare!

Snit Michael Glasser

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Mike Easter is being controlled by Apple.

Being an open format as it is, usenet will never go away but it'll never
be what your grandfather would use. Almost all advocates in this group do
programming either as a pastime or as a job, so I have doubts Snit thinks
of writing macros to be "voodoo".

Mike Easter is an idiot - folks have plonked his bot posts. What he really
needs is a script that keeps switching names, then they'd have a shot at
being almost as replied to as he is. What were you thinking?

--
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David Brooks

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I did! :-)

21 March 2018 was my stop date!

FromTheRafters

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Snit brought next idea :
You are wrong there. It is/was well known that even many older drives
strategies had that part of that feature. Within a volume, making a
copy meant merely making another path to the same resource on disk --
not even a new file gets created in that case even though you get a
'new icon' in your user interface. Making a copy to another volume
caused creation of an actual new complete file. Modifying the 'copy' in
the aforementioned 'new path' scenario would cause a file to actually
be created with the modifications and the two files would then be
different.

I know for a fact that Gremlin is/was aware of this as it was discussed
before, so he could not have been 'lost' as you suggest. Fact is, you
can see this happening if you copy a large file to the same and
different volumes and note the difference in time to complete the task.

Snit Michael Glasser

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https://secure.tennesseetrustee.org/index.php?main=Y

Select Sullivan County
Select Pay/Search Property Taxes
Enter 108 Warrior Drive
On second line click View

Why does Dustin Cook's family owe $4,742.45 in property taxes on a home
worth only $115,500

Rodney Wood has been a bad boy it seems!

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Gremlin has a severe reading comprehension problem
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