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D
Jan 21, 2024, 5:46:53 PM1/21/24
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>Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
John C.
Jan 21, 2024, 10:48:32 PM1/21/24
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John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
time-limited, trial or web wares for me please.
So that I don't see them, I filter out:
-crossposts (sent to multiple newsgroups) at a time
-posts sent via Google Groups* due to spam from that source
-trolls (eg. "Bucky Breeder" and his many sock puppets)
If you do the same, the group will be easier for you to read.
D
Jan 21, 2024, 11:37:34 PM1/21/24
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:48:26 -0800, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>D wrote:
>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>
>In other words, poorly and accessed with difficulty.
don't know even ballpark figure on how many subscribers google groups might
>D wrote:
>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>
>In other words, poorly and accessed with difficulty.
have, but after twenty-three years of popular usage it's probably somewhere
in the millions, or was before the big announcement last month (14 december)
that their usenet gateway would be decommissioned 15 february 2024, quickly
adding an extra week for the current deadline which seems like they'll keep;
that's a lot of users that'll be looking for other ways to stay connected...
Mike Easter
Jan 22, 2024, 3:58:40 PM1/22/24
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D wrote:
> that's a lot of users that'll be looking for other ways to stay connected...
>
Departure of GG effect will be an improvement, not a detriment.
> that's a lot of users that'll be looking for other ways to stay connected...
>
In the very early days of GG taking over Deja News, there was an
improvement in the 'quality' of the archiving. Everything about GG has
been steeply downhill since those early days. It is not a good archive,
it is not a good way to access usenet and whether or not there is any
'value' to the actual GGs separate from usenet is questionable.
Those users accessing usenet via GG should've been doing it some other
way, as the GG quality of reading or posting was *severely* inferior.
GG is not useful or beneficial to usenet.
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Mike Easter
AllanH
Jan 22, 2024, 4:10:29 PM1/22/24
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know of a better way to search past ACF posts than GG.
I hope someone can let me know of a better way to do that.
Mike Easter
Jan 23, 2024, 12:05:33 PM1/23/24
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AllanH wrote:
> I do not know of a better way to search past ACF posts than GG.
> I hope someone can let me know of a better way to do that.
GG is a terrible archive as it is full of unfiltered 'crap' from GG
> I do not know of a better way to search past ACF posts than GG.
> I hope someone can let me know of a better way to do that.
which is what makes it a terrible way to read usenet msg/s. It is even
more terrible because it does NOT include the header of the msg/s w/
such as M-ID and other salient info.
In the 'old days' the GG archive info was MUCH better.
I don't know of a good archive. I suppose that one could access a
provider w/ a long retention of text msg/s and create their own archive.
Giga says it has 18+ y of text retention.
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Mike Easter
JJ
Jan 24, 2024, 2:33:55 AM1/24/24
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In my notes, free.sonic-news.com and news.readfreenews.net have 5 months of
retention. But news.readfreenews.net status was "timed out" in my notes.
Albasani has 3 years, but it's dead now.
PS) I haven't rechecked my list since Albasani was gone.
John C.
Jan 24, 2024, 5:42:25 AM1/24/24
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https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/qIScRQF88iw
John C.
Jan 24, 2024, 5:48:19 AM1/24/24
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off to only an occasional German pentobarbital spam. This decline in the
spam occurred right around the time that Google announced they were
going to be cutting off access to Usenet content.
Hmmmm...
D
Jan 24, 2024, 8:31:16 AM1/24/24
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 02:48:13 -0800, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>D wrote:
>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>
>Just checked my account with GG and see that the Googlespam has dropped
>off to only an occasional German pentobarbital spam. This decline in the
>spam occurred right around the time that Google announced they were
>going to be cutting off access to Usenet content.
>Hmmmm...
reports in news:news.admin.net-abuse.usenet et al have dropped off significantly
>D wrote:
>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>
>Just checked my account with GG and see that the Googlespam has dropped
>off to only an occasional German pentobarbital spam. This decline in the
>spam occurred right around the time that Google announced they were
>going to be cutting off access to Usenet content.
>Hmmmm...
over the last couple of months, but tidbits of googlespam continue to show up in
many newsgroups, which by now is mostly being ignored by most news server admins;
posts in server-related newsgroups suggest that some google groups users are not
happy about losing their web based usenet connection and are reluctant to resort
to using newsreader clients, but with only ~29 days remaining, it's a moot point
John C.
Jan 25, 2024, 5:03:26 AM1/25/24
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D wrote:
Yes, and although we might wind up with a few ex-GGers, the actual
number of people who were using it to post to ACF really wasn't that many.
OTOH, I hope that the total number of people using it to post to ACF and
other NGs doesn't result in server overload for ES and other free usenet
providers.
number of people who were using it to post to ACF really wasn't that many.
OTOH, I hope that the total number of people using it to post to ACF and
other NGs doesn't result in server overload for ES and other free usenet
providers.
D
Jan 25, 2024, 11:54:04 AM1/25/24
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:03:18 -0800, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>D wrote:
>> John C. wrote:
>>> D wrote:
>>>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>>>
>>> Just checked my account with GG and see that the Googlespam has dropped
>>> off to only an occasional German pentobarbital spam. This decline in the
>>> spam occurred right around the time that Google announced they were
>>> going to be cutting off access to Usenet content.
>>> Hmmmm...
>>
>> reports in news:news.admin.net-abuse.usenet et al have dropped off significantly
>> over the last couple of months, but tidbits of googlespam continue to show up in
>> many newsgroups, which by now is mostly being ignored by most news server admins;
>> posts in server-related newsgroups suggest that some google groups users are not
>> happy about losing their web based usenet connection and are reluctant to resort
>> to using newsreader clients, but with only ~29 days remaining, it's a moot point
>
>Yes, and although we might wind up with a few ex-GGers, the actual
>number of people who were using it to post to ACF really wasn't that many.
>OTOH, I hope that the total number of people using it to post to ACF and
>other NGs doesn't result in server overload for ES and other free usenet
>providers.
4 cubits make a man, 300 cubits make an ark . . . they might've had enough
>D wrote:
>> John C. wrote:
>>> D wrote:
>>>>> Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today.
>>>
>>> Just checked my account with GG and see that the Googlespam has dropped
>>> off to only an occasional German pentobarbital spam. This decline in the
>>> spam occurred right around the time that Google announced they were
>>> going to be cutting off access to Usenet content.
>>> Hmmmm...
>>
>> reports in news:news.admin.net-abuse.usenet et al have dropped off significantly
>> over the last couple of months, but tidbits of googlespam continue to show up in
>> many newsgroups, which by now is mostly being ignored by most news server admins;
>> posts in server-related newsgroups suggest that some google groups users are not
>> happy about losing their web based usenet connection and are reluctant to resort
>> to using newsreader clients, but with only ~29 days remaining, it's a moot point
>
>Yes, and although we might wind up with a few ex-GGers, the actual
>number of people who were using it to post to ACF really wasn't that many.
>OTOH, I hope that the total number of people using it to post to ACF and
>other NGs doesn't result in server overload for ES and other free usenet
>providers.
gopher wood available at their googleplex to have already built it on site
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