Re: [»Q«] Collusion Collisions With The Law - Pric Begin
David W
> �Q�, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
> Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?
Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend �Q� now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>
David "Bear Bottoms" W
> 'David W' wrote thus:
> OMG! .....<VBG> twice ;-)
Actually, that's a very good idea, I wish I had thought of it myself,
Hum! Passing this along to JayZee............
--
PWH and the Pricelessware Con Game - Exposed
http://tinyurl.com/knogy8
Sam Jones
> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:29:00 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>
>> Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?
>
> Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
> treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
> know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>
Max Wachtel to hummingBird 3 weeks previous ---
"Our Justin Jenkins is Ari/Frank Camper, Troll Extraordinaire."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/d472a307d7d23fdd
Max Wachtel likes x-privat, motza, gabrix, sunsite.
Is it Max or Justin gonna join a sock attack.
Franklin
In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of your
old socks.
This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed considerable
help to answer a simple question about aircraft dynamics.
That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You (posting
as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I had to jump
in to answer it for you.
FRANKLIN:
"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter
even greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I
getting closer?"
DUDLEY HENRIQUES:
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
around here lately with all these characters and I
thought you might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the
g is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>
David "Bear Bottoms" W
> David W wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:29:00 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> �Q�, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
>>> Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?
>>
>> Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
>> our friend �Q� now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
>> treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
>> know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>
>
> In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of your
> old socks.
Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>
> This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
> capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed considerable
> help to answer a simple question about aircraft dynamics.
Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you got
us there again, Frankie !
> That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
> Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You (posting
> as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I had to jump
> in to answer it for you.
Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>
> FRANKLIN:
>
> "Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
> re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
> excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
> Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
> on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
> state I say you would get acceleration.
>
> Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
> entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter
> even greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I
> getting closer?"
>
> DUDLEY HENRIQUES:
>
> "Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
> around here lately with all these characters and I
> thought you might be another one :-)
>
> Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
> given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
> which is the answer to the first question, and if the
> g is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
>
> Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>
Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you? They
love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.
*ROTFLMAO OFF AT YOU, FRANKIE*
Gezellig
Another know nothing expert. Great. I suppose he is kin to Ben Franklin
:(
David "Bear Bottoms" W
Nooooooo, he's kin to the Great Indian Chieftain, Many Voices In Head :)
Franklin
The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?
Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>
David "Bear Bottoms" W
No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!
David "Bear Bottoms" W
> You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
> intrusive.
Which ones? Name them.
<snarkle>
Franklin
Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you who
can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints. When
you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent follows
that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your landing gear
will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that altogther their
dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the threshold. That
will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*
hilton2
Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?
--
NYC
David "Bear Bottoms" W
> 'Franklin' wrote thus:
> Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.
OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drobe him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
This isn't something you can fake and certainly not in an aviation group
but good olf Frankie, we can always count on him being a certified
egomaniac.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
john habbert
No. 90 deg = vertical clearance
Could be an exam question because xC-yL isn't regular. What did the reply
say?
Gezellig
You'd make a good CFI.
Gezellig
No, the runway is a rocket launch.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
Hi, John, welcome to Usenet! How about taking you and Paris Hilton2 over
to get with the gang for a picture?
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE*
David "Bear Bottoms" W
No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.
Gezellig
Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
>>>>> you're wicked. <grin>
>>>>
>>>> No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
>>>> into doing with the SDs.
>>>>
>>>> *ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
>>>>
>>>> One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
>>>> is a mega-ego!
>>>
>>> You'd make a good CFI.
>>
>> No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
>> teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
>> :)English wasn't a required language.
>
> Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
> bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
> island was too far to make that work.
I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)
Gezellig
No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.
Gezellig
For smacking his 20 yo GF around.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
LOL
A friend of yours?
David "Bear Bottoms" W
>>> Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.
>>
>>OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
>>because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
>>
>>*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
>
>>Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
>>Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
>>fly.
>
> EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
> is someone who read up about it the night before".
>
> That *IS* Franklin...
>
> As you say:
>
> *ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.
Gezellig
>>>>>>> No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
>>>>>>> teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
>>>>>>> :)English wasn't a required language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
>>>>>> bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
>>>>>> island was too far to make that work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
>>>>> teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
>>>>> usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
>>>>> USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever train in Venice :)
>>>>
>>>> No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
>>>> name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
>>>> blocks from me when he's not in jail.
>>>
>>> They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.
>>
>> For smacking his 20 yo GF around.
>
> LOL
>
> A friend of yours?
O hell no a colorful local native, another of Midwesterner who conned
his way into wealth. He's a regular at the Highway 41 bar scene which is
where I first met him, talking loudly about Huffman etc etc etc. To this
day he yaks on and on about training the Muslims and delivering their
stashes to Atta. How he lives to tell is a mystery itself.
Gezellig
Can you take him back to wherever he originates?
Gezellig
> 'David "Bear Bottoms" W' wrote thus:
>
> Dunno if anyone is interested in seeing this:
>
> Air France:
> Here's a link to the Interim Report about the AF447 accident:
> http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
>
> PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...
Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good as
crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have alot
of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for mae at
least.
David "Bear Bottoms" W
I meant the GF :). What were in the stashes?
Hilliard's a bum, another DEA puppet with an ionvisible shield of
protection, the fact he's talking means he isn't saying anything that
isn't already known.
Or is he?
Gezellig
Coke. I don't know how to answer that so much has been written and so
much has been BS it wouldn't be a great big surprise if he's spouting
that BS. What is not BS is the fact he was running drugs, caught clear
handed with 40+ of heroin. Wally sez they took his plane and auctioned
it off and never gave him a penny. What is up with that?
David "Bear Bottoms" W
It wasn't his it was Whittingtons' and it is now time to take this to
email. We have skulking Seal-Bears amongst us. :)
David "Bear Bottoms" W
It's hummingbird's fault. He attracts the mentally ill and they play tag
with him wherever he goes. Franklin is his own, personal psycho-troll.
Gezellig
Isn't that special for him.
Franklin
Ignore his silly question. He's a sockpuppet, well-known to
alt.comp.freeware.
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some A/FD.
That's all.
Gezellig
> In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some A/FD.
> That's all.
Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX. Get
VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>
David "Bear Bottoms" W
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN wannabee AIRMAN*
David "Bear Bottoms" W
> 'David "Bear Bottoms" W' wrote thus:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:48:04 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>>>> Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.
>>>>
>>>>OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
>>>>because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
>>>>
>>>>*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
>>>
>>>>Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
>>>>Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
>>>>fly.
>
>
>>> EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
>>> is someone who read up about it the night before".
>>>
>>> That *IS* Franklin...
>>>
>>> As you say:
>>>
>>> *ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
>>
>>Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
>>from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
>>first class genetically deranged psychopath.
>>
>>I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
>>cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
>>bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
>>PWHers :)
>
> Spot on. He's all about getting people into a position where he
> can control and manipulate them...if they resist, he gets angry
> and ratchets up the slime and allegations.
>
> If I were a psychologist, he'd make a very interesting case study
> for training purposes ;-)
Yes but could you train him to poop only in his own pan?
Gezellig
> 'Gezellig' wrote thus:
> I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
> the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
> on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
> route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)
Odds are seriously in your favor now.
> I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
> down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
> serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
> of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
> dense storm cloud.
The fact that the maintenance system transmitted for four minutes says
that not only was the aircraft more or less in one piece during that
time, but that the electrical systems were still functioning. If the
tail snapped off as suggested, the aircraft wouldn't have lasted more
than a few seconds at that altitude and speed.
Indications are stronger that the failure of the vertical stabilizer
was a consequence rather than a cause of the accident.
Anything is possible, however, the communication link depends on a
relatively stable aircraft, since the satcom antennas mounted on the top
of the fuselage have to be directed at the satellites. If the aircraft
is banked more than something like 70 degrees, or pitching or rolling
wildly, the communication link would be broken. It certainly wouldn't
work if the aircraft wasn't in one piece or was demonstrating
significant control surface malfunctions.
Beware what you read in the press, they are taking raw data and either
misinterpreting it or trying to "simplify" it for their impression of
their reader's intelligence.
I would be more concerned if you were on a test flight.
Franklin
Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject can
see who's right. I said it's A/FD.
Franklin
> 'Gezellig' wrote thus:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:53:08 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> 'David "Bear Bottoms" W' wrote thus:
>>>
>>> Dunno if anyone is interested in seeing this:
>>>
>>> Air France:
>>> Here's a link to the Interim Report about the AF447 accident:
>>> http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-
>>> cp090601e1.en.pdf
>>>
>>> PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...
>>
>> Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good
>> as crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we
>> have a lot of speculation which leads to good discussions in
>> learning for mae at least.
>
> I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
> the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
> on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
> route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)
>
> I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
> down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
> serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
> of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
> dense storm cloud.
>
Chris (Hummingbird)
Your friend fantasized about special forces and nowadays fantasizes
about aviation. His bluff got called.
Goodbye deep south fantasies; welcome to the murky labyrinths of
Armscor and Denel.
Air investigation and truth? Soth Africa's Graca managed to get the
investigation into the Tu-134 reopened but only because she married
Mandela. No one but grieving relatives expect the scandal of two
"sister" investigations to get looked into: the Helderberg 747 and Dag
Hammarskjold's DC-6. The TRC (and several others) smelt a rat but no
one did a single thing.
See if the CVR for the Helderberg matches the official transcript (ha
ha!) and take it from there. Meckanic and Klatzow appear reliable.
Goodbye luminous wrist watches; hello darkness.
Franklin
No gyro-stabilized antennas where you live?
Gezellig
OK you win, there is no fighting aviator expertise far greater than
mine.
To show you I meant no harm, I have a video which will agree with your
assessments.
Gezellig
There it is, our expert aviator has spoken!
Franklin
I'd almost forgotten MS Flight Simulator existed but you seem to have
ready recall of it. That explains a lot if it's where you get your
aviation info.
When you were on the Usenet (which is before there was a Usenet, I
think) that program used to be the acid test for PC clone
compatibility.
Gezellig
> Gezellig wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:48:32 +0100, Franklin wrote:
>>
>>> Gezellig wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:27:31 +0100, Franklin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some
>>>>> A/FD. That's all.
>>>>
>>>> Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX.
>>>> Get VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>
>>>
>>> Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject
>>> can see who's right. I said it's A/FD.
>>
>> OK you win, there is no fighting aviator expertise far greater than
>> mine.
>>
>> To show you I meant no harm, I have a video which will agree with
>> your assessments.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGhBs9ARXUM
>>
>
> I'd almost forgotten MS Flight Simulator existed but you seem to have
> ready recall of it. That explains a lot if it's where you get your
> aviation info.
I have a fan and a helmet worn by Snoopy to make the illusion real.
> When you were on the Usenet (which is before there was a Usenet, I
> think) that program used to be the acid test for PC clone
> compatibility.
I can't tell a lie. I was not on Usenet before there was Usenet.
Gezellig
> This from the British press today;
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6675343.ece
Another piece in the puzzle? Possibly but who really knows. When the
final investigations result, whose opinions can be trusted?
Fly without fear, the odds are still immensely in your favor.
Franklin
> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:47:34 +0100, Franklin wrote:
>
>> David "Bear Bottoms" W wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:04:12 +0100, Franklin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The link I provided goes to the archive for
>>>> "rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
>>>> posted there.
>>>>
>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
>>>> http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
>>>>
>>>> Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
>>>> with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
>>>> contributions.
>>>>
>>>> You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
>>>> intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
>>>> something to hide which you want to tell us about.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert
>>> Aviator.
>>>
>>> If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
>>> x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
>>>
>>> Whatcha got there, Frankie?
>>> C'mon, whatcha got there?
>>
>> Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
>> than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
>>
>> Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you
>> who can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints.
>> When you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent
>> follows that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your
>> landing gear will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that
>> altogther their dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the
>> threshold. That will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
>>
>> You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
>>
>> Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
>> up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
>> understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
>> Afghanistan.
>
> Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme chuckling>
>
> Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
> mountain.
>
>
Monkey, is this how you glide without the help of VASI and at the same
time manage to cut down the number of socks.
See 0:41 to 0:43. <http://tinyurl.com/8kdn5>
OR
<http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-11-4-
TigerForcedLa
nding.wmv>