WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR

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WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR


We, the people, do not make war
War is the vocation of Rulers
Men who claim authority as from God
Authority to imprison and kill you
If you will not join their army
To enforce their authority

Men who claim and usurp authority
Who seize and grasp power
Kings, Queens, Emperors and Lords
Prime Ministers, President and Aristocrats
Dictators, Despots, and Tyrants
Chiefs, Generals and Captains
Ecclesiastics, Priest, Popes

Those men who claim Authority
Make War upon "We the People"

So It Is Written
"What king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not
down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand
to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?"
"Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice
[Kings] make war." Luke 14:31, Pr 20:18


Satan Claims Authority to make War
It is written in God’s Word that Satan will make war

Rev 6:1-2 He who makes war is given a Crown.
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as
it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come
and see.
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had
a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth
conquering, and to conquer.

Rev 6:3-4 He who makes war is given Power
"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast
say, Come and see.
"And there went out another horse that was red: and power was
given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and
that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a
great sword.

Rev 20:7-8 (YLT) To Gather Them To War
"And when the thousand years may be finished, the Adversary shall
be loosed out of his prison, and he shall go forth to lead the
nations astray, that are in the four corners of the earth -- Gog
and Magog -- to gather them together to war, of whom the number
is as the sand of the sea"

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the
beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war
against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Satan Is The Beast who is released out of the Pit to make war.
http://tinyurl.com/nvdyq


owd
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::: veralein :::

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> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR

So was it Satan that led you there?

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From: oldwetdog <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet>
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Brian Garrison wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
> <fprimeaunoth...@ndak.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOS...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:s36r10pngvco3lout...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> wrote:

<snip>


> But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
> we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
> for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
> doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
>
>
> Be Encouraged,
> -Brian
>
> "Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above
> all." --Augustine.

Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)

Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...

However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...

I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War

From now to the end
it *is* war

From now until He comes,
It is war.

--
oldwetdog
-----
"Sophistry is not a system of ideas, but a vicious attitude of the
mind." Jacques Maritain
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/

=======end of his post========

There he was posting under the handle "Oldwetdog". He usually changes
his handles before he starts a new war on people. Please be careful with
that guy. He was one of those who chased those he named in that post off
ACC - and there has really never been a "cult" but a newsgroup with
people following Jesus whom Oldwetdog AKA St Dog the Wet Aka Glenn
McClary denies. This above is just one of his brutal posts he published
in that time. There are many more - and all just because he could not
accept Charismatic Christians while he himself is a false teacher who
denies the Deity of Christ. Back in January 2004 he commanded us to
"surrender" to him, or he would persecute us abusing the private
information he had used in the months before.

So let me warn you.

::: vera :::

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life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. If you had known
me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and
have seen him."
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St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
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> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>
> So was it Satan that led you there?

Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)

Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison

The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
the NG...

Brian Garrison is one who "left" the NG and then returned as a
sock puppet to attack those who resisted Vera and Griz

Other person who left and returned with new names were Jannette
(Abby) and Mike Barefield


Those who love Truth search for it, those who don't, don't.

To do this, go to...

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for example, use in the fields --

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(or leave blank)

Date: try short date spans, otherwise you get too wide a responses
1Oct2003 to 31Jan2004, or 1Jan2004 to 1July 2004, and etc.

Poster: "Vera" "Jeannette" "Mike Barefield" "Brian Garrison" (or
any, or leave blank)
You may also use the a poster's name in search terms to see what
others think of that poster

try,
key words (search terms):
"Vision"
"Please leave" "just leave" "Christ left"
and follow the results for a thread or two


links to ACC flamewar


Examples of Cult conduct on ACC
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10240pepe8t9i84%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/zga4p

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10251sms41a4m5a%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/f425f

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1024ll51et99la6%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/fbbt7

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1025tcmh820otcf%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/ebhla


Context
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=vvrhnn8ri5lqfd%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/qtyf2

Control
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=vvpu94tj2ljce4%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/qjuzc

Griz Defence of False Prophecy "Glenn McClary, Prophet Hunter"
the Post,
http://www.google.com/groups?q=+looking+OR+for+OR+a+OR+false+OR+prophet+group:alt.christnet.christianlife+author:griz&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_qdr=m&selm=vvojicn05u4n14%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=71
http://tinyurl.com/lxocg


Glenn McClary, Prophet Hunter / the Thread
http://tinyurl.com/gzutc
You will notice several things in this thread: First is the long
running confusion between the three Glenns, and regardless that
Glenn(Christian Mystic) seems to disregard the confusion, Glenn
(Eric (webTV)) and I (Glenn(bagman/oldwetdog)) have made more
than one effort as far back as 14Dec2003 to correct this issue.


false prophets #1
http://tinyurl.com/nsq3y


false prophets #2
http://tinyurl.com/p6jr4


false prophets #3
http://tinyurl.com/gb3yz


Vera names her favorite false prophets!!
Vera posted "My favourite prophets here"
http://tinyurl.com/npdlv
(note the spelling of "favorite" Vera is German)

Pastor Dave

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>WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR

And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that
genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

St Dog the Wet

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Pastor Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:33:17 -0700, St Dog the Wet
> <g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>
> And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
> and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:

Note again that Dave does not refute my post with fact and
evidence, but engages in false accusation and ad hom attack.

Dave, when you don't post the evidence of your false accusation,
you prove yourself to be a false accuser


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::: veralein :::

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St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> In news:12bqds0...@corp.supernews.com,
>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>
>> So was it Satan that led you there?
>
> Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)
>
> Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison
>
> The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
> began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
> who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
> the NG...

I did not start anything like a "war" - that was you, you liar. Where
did I make "war"??? Proof, or shut up.

You started this bloody flame war with the beginning of January 2004.
Everyone can check that out (or does this really look like "war" on my
part: http://tinyurl.com/nat34 dated Jan 1 2004???) and also that I have
not praticipated in any war before YOU started it - here is the one of
your "war" posts again:

=========start of his post==========

Brian Garrison wrote:

<snip>

--


oldwetdog
-----
"Sophistry is not a system of ideas, but a vicious attitude of the
mind." Jacques Maritain
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/

=======end of his post========

Dated 01 Feb 2004.

What a liar you are.

You even sent me a privat e-mail in which you announced that you were
going to attack people in ACC.

And there was no "cult" - just the wish of some heretics like you that
the Christians there might leave, that is all. There were a number of
good people there, and it was a pleasure then to be a part of this
newsgroup. All that is left now there is that one can warn against all
the false teachers like you or "Pastor" Dave that you cannot make too
many disciples. How many did you leave a wrong path in 2004?

Look there what you posted:


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From: oldwetdog <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife

Subject: Griz Cult: Terms of surrender
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:47:59 -0800


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Griz Cult: Terms of surrender

There are no terms.

There will be no negotiation.

Luke 14:31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth

not
down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet
him
that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an
ambassage,
and desireth conditions of peace.

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he
hath, he
cannot be my disciple.

The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

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Know this:
You made war,
You made war on MY people
There will be no peace
None, no peace.

I am against you
Wherever you go to
there is no place on earth
or heaven above or heaven below
that I will not find you
and make war on you

I will make war
I am war
on you
War!

(You might want to know that I have spent the last 90 days in collecting
information... google is *my* friend!)

(You might want to know that I know your ISP, and that your personal
information is available as pubilic information.)
(Sh#t, the net is *MY* friend!)

You knew this, right, when you decided to make war?)

Only fools commit acts or war when they are not ready for war.
oldwetdog

--------------------------

Those who do not understand war, should not commit an act of war.
oldwetdog


I am against you.

--
+-<[:-)>>>- oldwetdog
-----
Above all else cultivate the power of independent thought. Henry Sabin
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
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=======end of his post========> Brian Garrison is one who "left" the NG

and then returned as a> sock puppet to attack those who resisted Vera

and GrizBrian Garrison is a wonderful brother in Christ who has never
done anything to anyone. > Other person who left and returned with new

names were Jannette> (Abby) and Mike Barefield> > > Those who love Truth

search for it, those who don't, don't.You have no truth. You have lost
already and condemned yourself.> To do this, go to...> >

http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> > for example, use in
the fields --> > Group: alt.christnet.christianlife> (or leave blank)> >
Date: try short date spans, otherwise you get too wide a responses>

1Oct2003 to 31Jan2004, or 1Jan2004 to 1July 2004, and etc.No, try all
that is there in 2003, before this guy started his flame war. > Poster:

"Vera" "Jeannette" "Mike Barefield" "Brian Garrison" (or> any, or leave
blank)> You may also use the a poster's name in search terms to see
what> others think of that poster> > try,> key words (search terms):>
"Vision"> "Please leave" "just leave" "Christ left"> and follow the

results for a thread or twoI still ask you to leave the Christian
newsgroups with all the division you created, and with all the hate that
you spit at people, just because they did not accept your heresies. You
were much welcomed by the Christians in ACC when you came there,
thankfully you started a flamewar. > links to ACC flamewar> Vera names
her favorite false prophets!!I still love these people - so what?They
did not lie as much as you do. They accept Scripture, and they love
Jesus as their Saviour and God. You are just a fake. > Vera posted "My

favourite prophets here"> http://tinyurl.com/npdlv> (note the spelling

of "favorite" Vera is German)What has my spelling got to do with your
evil lies and your libel? What have they got to do with my nationality?
The people in alt.messianic already know that I am a German. As far as I
have found out, they do not hold that against me. You want to inflame
the people here like you inflamed the people in ACC. Shame in you.[snip]

St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
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> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bqds0...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>> So was it Satan that led you there?
>> Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)
>>
>> Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison
>>
>> The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
>> began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
>> who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
>> the NG...
>
> I did not start anything like a "war" - that was you, you liar. Where
> did I make "war"??? Proof, or shut up.
>

[clip for length -- see previous thread]

O.K., Vera, you asked for proof? Lets start here
===========================

links to ACC flamewar

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10251sms41a4m5a%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/f425f

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1024ll51et99la6%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/fbbt7

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1025tcmh820otcf%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/ebhla

Vera names her favorite false prophets!!

::: veralein :::

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WHERE IS THAT THAT I STARTED WAR????????

YOU MADE EVERYTHING UP THERE!!!!

WHERE IS THAT????

WHAT AN EVIL AND SICK LYING PERSON YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


St Dog the Wet

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Just read the links...

Just follow the names of the persons at the links back to when
Vera joined ACC...


Those who love Truth search for it; those who don't, don't.
owd

::: veralein :::

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We are not speaking about persons here, but about ME, and you started
it!!! You are lying about me!!!!!!!! Provably!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE IS THAT THAT I STARTED WAR????????

YOU MADE EVERYTHING UP THERE!!!!

WHERE IS THAT????

WHAT AN EVIL AND SICK LYING PERSON YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Those who love Truth search for it; those who don't, don't.

Obviously you do not. Your father is the father of lies.

> owd

::: vera :::

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2 Peter 3:10 WEB But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the
elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the
works that are in it will be burned up.

Pastor Dave

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>Pastor Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:33:17 -0700, St Dog the Wet
>> <g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>
>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>
>> And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
>> and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:
>
>Note again that Dave does not refute my post with fact and
>evidence, but engages in false accusation and ad hom attack.

Why state again the evidence, when you dodge it, Dodgeball?
You aren't concerned with truth. And we both know you cheer
on the destruction of the world.

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."

"To belittle is to be little."

St Dog the Wet

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Vera, when you say someone is lying, you should post your evidence.


I posted the evidence that you, Griz and the members of your
"building crew" were asking people to leave BEFORE I came to this
NG....

All anyone has to do to learn if that is true or not is just
follow the links.

owd


"Mark T"

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"St Dog the Wet" wrote:

> VERA MAKES WAR!
Nah!

Vera makes crap!

Too many sausages and too much sauerkraut!


::: veralein :::

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WHERE DID I ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE IN 2003?????????

PUT IT RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE LINES:

----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------

But I gave a number of really nasty posts by you, asking people to
"surrender" at your terms, imitating them to abuse all the personal
information you had collected about them over months.

Shall I post the proof for that again?

You made war against God's People who had welcomed you heartily in ACC.

What do you think is the prize for that?

I am fearing for your soul.

::: vera :::

><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
John 14:6-7 WEB Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. If you had known
me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and
have seen him."
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St Dog the Wet

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Unbelievers asked Jesus to leave

Luke 8:37 Then the whole multitude of the country of the
Gadarenes round about besought him to depart from them; for they
were taken with great fear: and he went up into the ship, and
returned back again.


Jesus sent out His disciples, and told them:

Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your
words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the
dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the
land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that
city.

"whosoever shall not receive you" are UNBELIEVERS!!

When I came to this NG in Oct 2003, Griz, Vera, and the "building
crew" were using Mat 10:14 as authority to insist that people who
did not agree with them should leave this NG.

See: http://tinyurl.com/nrs5z 5April2003
Quote
And if you are in Christ, what are your commands in regard to
places where the 'Divine condemnations' you offer up are "not
received"? (Initiated in Mat 10:14 with the 12, backed up in
Mark 5 by Jesus' own demonstrated actions before many)
End Quote.

and see:"Please leave" http://tinyurl.com/rh44h


Please Note: In both examples that it is the UNBELIEVERS who are
asking Jesus' or His disciples to leave.

UNBELIEVERS who ask people to leave, who misquote or lie about
the Word of God, are NOT Christians. Unbelievers who use the Word
of God AGAINST God's People are servants of Satan.

In other words, When Vera asks someone to leave this NG, she is
revealing that she is serving Satan.


>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> But I gave a number of really nasty posts by you, asking people to
> "surrender" at your terms, imitating them to abuse all the personal
> information you had collected about them over months.
>
> Shall I post the proof for that again?

Sure, certainly!!!

I think you should post your "proof" again, post it every day!!


>
> You made war against the Griz Cult who had welcomed you heartily in ACC.


>
> What do you think is the prize for that?
>

owd


::: veralein :::

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St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> In news:12bsfii...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:

clip

Thanks, Vera ;-)

owd

::: veralein :::

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In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,

Oh, for what? For that:

> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

2 John 1:7-11 WEB

(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.

(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.

(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.

(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.

<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

?

Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?

> owd

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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St Dog the Wet wrote:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > Just leave !
>
> Thanks, Vera ;-)

You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
11:12,13,14).

Still praying for you, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:

>

> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>

What does the Word of God say, Vera?

owd

Gospel Bretts

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On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.

------------------

Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist

::: veralein :::

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In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,

St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>>
>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>
>
> What does the Word of God say, Vera?

Can you not answer?

You deny the Deity of Christ, and you played tricks on me when I asked
you who Jesus is for you. You called him "my Lord and my God", and later
denied HIs Deity.

> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

2 John 1:7-11 WEB

(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.

(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.

(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.

(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.

<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

Leave, Oldwetdog, just leave this place.

> owd


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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::: veralein ::: wrote:

<snip>

> (10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
> receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
> welcomes him participates in his evil works.

One way to show and evildoer in a non-antagonistic way that they are
not welcome is to ignore him/her. Another is to have the Holy Spirit
completely guide how you respond to the evildoer.

In my experience, the latter is far more effective.

May the LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Vera whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Gospel Bretts wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > Just leave !
> >>
> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >
> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >11:12,13,14).
>
> You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.

Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.

LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.

> ------------------
>
> Gospel Bretts
> a.a. Atheist #2262
> Fundy Xian Atheist

Oxymoron.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.

Diana

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" ::: veralein :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in
message news:4i7ojeF...@individual.net...

Vera,
Jesus did not cast out people from His presence. Think
girl think. When you feel someone is a demon or evil
should you not rather CAST out the evil not the
person??? What would Jesus do Vera? Would he cast out
the person or the evil from the person???

owd and Pastor Dave...My statement above is in general
and not to reflect that I think you two are evil or
have evil within. I love you both as my Brothers in
Christ as I love Vera as my Sister in Christ.


St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:


>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>
>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>
> Can you not answer?
>
> You deny the Deity of Christ,

Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.

owd

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Actually, Christ Jesus used a whip to drive out the moneychangers from
the Temple after overturning their tables.

Moreover, HE did not invite the Pharisees to dine with HIM.

Diane, you remind me of Job's friends who would blame Job for the
trouble he was having.

May our LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Diane whom I love.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

::: veralein :::

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In news:ffyvg.30215$vl5....@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,
Diana <di...@nowheretobe.found> typed:

Can you read? This is what Jesus would do:

> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

2 John 1:7-11 WEB

(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.

(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.

(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.

(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.

<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><


::: veralein :::

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In news:12btdeh...@corp.supernews.com,
> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.#

You are now just fishing for sympathy of the other beöievers.

All ACC knows that you deny the Trinity - ans that can only mean you are
what I say.

> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

2 John 1:7-11 WEB

(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.

(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.

(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.

(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.

<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh, Glenn?


::: vera :::

><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
Who could bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
(Romans 8:33 WEB)
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

--
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> owd


I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS EASY!

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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go suck the cock of christ,chung.your pathetic.


St Dog the Wet

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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> In news:12btdeh...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>>>
>>>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>>> Can you not answer?
>>>
>>> You deny the Deity of Christ,

>> Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
>> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.#
>


Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your false accusation, then
you are a liar.


owd

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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St Dog the Wet wrote:

Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
of Life.

Still praying for you, dear Glenn.

Athanasius

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On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

>Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
>Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
>bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
>of Life.

Indeed.


>
>Still praying for you, dear Glenn.

He needs it too. :-)


>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Peace and grace be with your spirit.

Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.

wbarwell

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

>
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>

Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
which makes god stupid.
A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
overnight.

Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
stupid like that.
Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
these lies was stupid.

Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
their own stupidity.


--

"Metaphysics is a dark ocean without shores or lighthouse,
strewn with many a philosophic wreck." - Immanuel Kant

Cheerful Charlie

Rev. Karl E. Taylor

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wbarwell wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>
>
> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> which makes god stupid.
> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> overnight.
>
> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> stupid like that.
> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> these lies was stupid.
>
> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> their own stupidity.
>
>
But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
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A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20

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____________________________________________________________________

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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote in message
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> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

Agreed...but, that clearly does not rule out mental illness. His posting
history, which includes hysterical failed predictions of "global
earthquakes" and "nuclear exchanges", indicate a mind filled with delusions.

GG

Christopher A. Lee

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:35 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:

>wbarwell wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>>
>>
>> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>> which makes god stupid.
>> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>> overnight.
>>
>> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>> stupid like that.
>> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>> these lies was stupid.
>>
>> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>> their own stupidity.
>>
>>
>But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Athanasius wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
> >Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
> >bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
> >of Life.
>
> Indeed.
> >
> >Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
>
> He needs it too. :-)
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Peace and grace be with your spirit.

And, with you dear brother whom I love.

The Holy Spirit compels me to reveal to you specifically at this moment
in time here on usenet the answer that GOD has provided for the
question:

Why did LORD Jesus Christ curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit
out-of-season as described in verses 12-14 in Mark 11?

This was done not out of anger but purposefully to teach us that GOD
has given free will to the souls of not only to humans but to the souls
of all the things HE has made including fig trees, rocks, mountains, et
cetera. When our LORD sought out the fig tree for figs, the fig tree
disobeyed its Creator by choosing of its own free will to refuse to
produce figs on the grounds that it was not time to produce figs
(usings the laws of the world/nature as an excuse to disobey the
Creator). Disobeying GOD is sin. And the wages of sin is death for
the souls of all things, and indeed the disciples found the fig tree
withered to its roots in the morning.

With this amazing answer, there is a new understanding of the passage
that follows Peter's observation of the withered fig tree as described
in verses 22-23 of Mark 11. Indeed, there is a new understanding of
each instance where there is a reference to LORD Jesus Christ issuing
commands to things... commanding the waters to calm, commanding rocks
to turn to bread, commanding food to become more plentiful, commanding
a fish to swallow a gold coin and be caught by disciples to provide
payment for the Temple tax, commanding water to turn to wine, and
commanding mud to form new neural connections in the occipital cortex
to allow a man born blind to see.

LORD GOD Almighty is so awesome !

It is such a privilege, as unworthy as I am, to be given HIS answer to
share with the body of Christ doing the LORD's work here on usenet.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind and strength.

Laus Deo !

"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Yes, dear beloved Jesus, you are those things and everything to me...
you are my LORD, my Savior, and my GOD ! ! ! Thank you with all that I
am for your rising up on that 3rd day !

Marana tha ! ! !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 19, 2006, 9:54:16 PM7/19/06
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wbarwell wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> > fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> > out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>
> Because he was stupid.

No. That is not the reason why HE cursed the fig tree.

May thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for revealing the
reason to me and giving me the privilege of revealing the amazing
answer on usenet at the appointed time in the very near future.

Still praying for you, dear William.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 19, 2006, 9:54:12 PM7/19/06
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me


HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.

Uncle Vic

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Jul 19, 2006, 10:29:51 PM7/19/06
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> 11:12,13,14).

And I'll bet you think that actually happened, don't you Earthquack? If
so, you'd have to believe in the power of Astrology to predict the future,
magic is really magic, and the weather is caused by the mood swings of
"God."

<sigh>

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly

Uncle Vic

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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.

Just wait until you actually get sick enough to die. Will you go to a
hospital, or a church?

Uncle Vic

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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

> Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
> HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

So God is a babbling moron like you?

Hawkeye-X

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Jul 19, 2006, 10:40:08 PM7/19/06
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I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

Stephen Knight

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Jul 19, 2006, 10:54:05 PM7/19/06
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On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

>St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:

>> <snip>
>>
>> > Just leave !
>>
>> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>

>You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>11:12,13,14).

I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
created.

When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?

Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

R. Pierce Butler

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Jul 19, 2006, 11:13:24 PM7/19/06
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Hawkeye-X <hawkey...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:a6rtb2pr3djmajhta...@4ax.com:

I have a feeling the Chung makes Frank Burns seem totally competent.

Olrik

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Jul 19, 2006, 11:14:38 PM7/19/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Gospel Bretts wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> > >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > >> <snip>
> > >>
> > >> > Just leave !
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> > >
> > >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> > >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> > >11:12,13,14).
> >
> > You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
> Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.

No, your "Lord" failed you. You're just not aware of it yet.

Olrik

Hawkeye-X

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Jul 19, 2006, 11:41:14 PM7/19/06
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Based on what Dr. Hildner told me, yeah, makes Ferret Face look like a
friggin' genius.

Hawkeye-X

Gospel Bretts

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On 19 Jul 2006 15:15:33 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

>Gospel Bretts wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
>Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>

It's completely sincere, Dr. Chung. Why else would you think I don't
flame you here like I do the other fundies?

>LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
>

Nope. He doesn't, because he doesn't exist, and you're living proof of
that. Now go see a shrink and carefully consider what he tells you.
You're an incredibly brilliant guy. Don't waste any more of your life.
Get help.
__________________

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 19, 2006, 11:54:47 PM7/19/06
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?

or

http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd

Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:

"KING of kings and LORD of lords"

ASAP.

Still praying for you, dear Steve.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 19, 2006, 11:54:56 PM7/19/06
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Hawkeye-X wrote:
> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>
> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

He remains untruthful.

> I'd love to hear it.

My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.

> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
the medical records of my patients in Ocala.

Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
ever-changing in their stories.

Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.

Mike Painter

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Jul 20, 2006, 12:09:03 AM7/20/06
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For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing and
usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.


Uncle Vic

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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

> Stephen Knight wrote:


>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
>> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
>> created.
>>
>> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
>> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
>>
>> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
>> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?

Nope. None whatsoever:

>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd
>
> Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
>
> "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
>
> ASAP.
>
> Still praying for you, dear Steve.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>