The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > Just leave !
>
> Thanks, Vera ;-)
You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
11:12,13,14).
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Gospel Bretts
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
------------------
Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<snip>
> (10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
> receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
> welcomes him participates in his evil works.
One way to show and evildoer in a non-antagonistic way that they are
not welcome is to ignore him/her. Another is to have the Holy Spirit
completely guide how you respond to the evildoer.
In my experience, the latter is far more effective.
May the LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Vera whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > Just leave !
> >>
> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >
> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >11:12,13,14).
>
Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
> ------------------
>
> Gospel Bretts
> a.a. Atheist #2262
> Fundy Xian Atheist
Oxymoron.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> " ::: veralein :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in
> message news:4i7ojeF...@individual.net...
> > In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
> > St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
> >>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
> >
> > Can you not answer?
> >
> > You deny the Deity of Christ, and you played tricks
> > on me when I asked you who Jesus is for you. You
> > called him "my Lord and my God", and later denied HIs
> > Deity.
> >
> >> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
> >> ><> ><>
> >
> > 2 John 1:7-11 WEB
> >
> > (7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world,
> > those who don't
> > confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is
> > the deceiver and
> > the Antichrist.
> >
> > (8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things
> > which we have
> > accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
> >
> > (9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the
> > teaching of Christ,
> > doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the
> > same has both the
> > Father and the Son.
> >
> > (10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this
> > teaching, don't
> > receive him into your house, and don't welcome him,
> > (11) for he who
> > welcomes him participates in his evil works.
> >
> > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
> > <>< <><
> >
> >
> >> owd
> >
>
> Vera,
> Jesus did not cast out people from His presence.
Actually, Christ Jesus used a whip to drive out the moneychangers from
the Temple after overturning their tables.
Moreover, HE did not invite the Pharisees to dine with HIM.
Diane, you remind me of Job's friends who would blame Job for the
trouble he was having.
May our LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Diane whom I love.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Think
> girl think. When you feel someone is a demon or evil
> should you not rather CAST out the evil not the
> person??? What would Jesus do Vera? Would he cast out
> the person or the evil from the person???
>
> owd and Pastor Dave...My statement above is in general
> and not to reflect that I think you two are evil or
> have evil within. I love you both as my Brothers in
> Christ as I love Vera as my Sister in Christ.
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS EASY!
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153347333.2...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
> >>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>
> >>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
> >>>
> >> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
> >
> > Can you not answer?
> >
> > You deny the Deity of Christ,
>
> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.
Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
of Life.
Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
>Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
>bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
>of Life.
Indeed.
>
>Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
He needs it too. :-)
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Peace and grace be with your spirit.
Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
wbarwell
>
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>
Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
which makes god stupid.
A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
overnight.
Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
stupid like that.
Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
these lies was stupid.
Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
their own stupidity.
--
"Metaphysics is a dark ocean without shores or lighthouse,
strewn with many a philosophic wreck." - Immanuel Kant
Cheerful Charlie
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>
>
> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> which makes god stupid.
> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> overnight.
>
> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> stupid like that.
> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> these lies was stupid.
>
> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> their own stupidity.
>
>
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor ktay...@getnet.net
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
GaryG
news:p813p3-...@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Agreed...but, that clearly does not rule out mental illness. His posting
history, which includes hysterical failed predictions of "global
earthquakes" and "nuclear exchanges", indicate a mind filled with delusions.
GG
Christopher A. Lee
<ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>wbarwell wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>>
>>
>> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>> which makes god stupid.
>> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>> overnight.
>>
>> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>> stupid like that.
>> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>> these lies was stupid.
>>
>> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>> their own stupidity.
>>
>>
>But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
> >Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
> >bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
> >of Life.
>
> Indeed.
> >
> >Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
>
> He needs it too. :-)
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Peace and grace be with your spirit.
And, with you dear brother whom I love.
The Holy Spirit compels me to reveal to you specifically at this moment
in time here on usenet the answer that GOD has provided for the
question:
Why did LORD Jesus Christ curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit
out-of-season as described in verses 12-14 in Mark 11?
This was done not out of anger but purposefully to teach us that GOD
has given free will to the souls of not only to humans but to the souls
of all the things HE has made including fig trees, rocks, mountains, et
cetera. When our LORD sought out the fig tree for figs, the fig tree
disobeyed its Creator by choosing of its own free will to refuse to
produce figs on the grounds that it was not time to produce figs
(usings the laws of the world/nature as an excuse to disobey the
Creator). Disobeying GOD is sin. And the wages of sin is death for
the souls of all things, and indeed the disciples found the fig tree
withered to its roots in the morning.
With this amazing answer, there is a new understanding of the passage
that follows Peter's observation of the withered fig tree as described
in verses 22-23 of Mark 11. Indeed, there is a new understanding of
each instance where there is a reference to LORD Jesus Christ issuing
commands to things... commanding the waters to calm, commanding rocks
to turn to bread, commanding food to become more plentiful, commanding
a fish to swallow a gold coin and be caught by disciples to provide
payment for the Temple tax, commanding water to turn to wine, and
commanding mud to form new neural connections in the occipital cortex
to allow a man born blind to see.
LORD GOD Almighty is so awesome !
It is such a privilege, as unworthy as I am, to be given HIS answer to
share with the body of Christ doing the LORD's work here on usenet.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind and strength.
Laus Deo !
"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Yes, dear beloved Jesus, you are those things and everything to me...
you are my LORD, my Savior, and my GOD ! ! ! Thank you with all that I
am for your rising up on that 3rd day !
Marana tha ! ! !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> > fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> > out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>
> Because he was stupid.
No. That is not the reason why HE cursed the fig tree.
May thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for revealing the
reason to me and giving me the privilege of revealing the amazing
answer on usenet at the appointed time in the very near future.
Still praying for you, dear William.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Uncle Vic
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> 11:12,13,14).
And I'll bet you think that actually happened, don't you Earthquack? If
so, you'd have to believe in the power of Astrology to predict the future,
magic is really magic, and the weather is caused by the mood swings of
"God."
<sigh>
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
Uncle Vic
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
Just wait until you actually get sick enough to die. Will you go to a
hospital, or a church?
Uncle Vic
> Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
> HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
So God is a babbling moron like you?
Hawkeye-X
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
I'd love to hear it.
DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
Hawkeye-X
Stephen Knight
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> > Just leave !
>>
>> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>
>You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>11:12,13,14).
I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
created.
When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
R. Pierce Butler
news:a6rtb2pr3djmajhta...@4ax.com:
I have a feeling the Chung makes Frank Burns seem totally competent.
Olrik
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> > >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > >> <snip>
> > >>
> > >> > Just leave !
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> > >
> > >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> > >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> > >11:12,13,14).
> >
> > You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
> Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
No, your "Lord" failed you. You're just not aware of it yet.
Olrik
Hawkeye-X
Based on what Dr. Hildner told me, yeah, makes Ferret Face look like a
friggin' genius.
Hawkeye-X
Gospel Bretts
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Gospel Bretts wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
>Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
It's completely sincere, Dr. Chung. Why else would you think I don't
flame you here like I do the other fundies?
>LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
>
Nope. He doesn't, because he doesn't exist, and you're living proof of
that. Now go see a shrink and carefully consider what he tells you.
You're an incredibly brilliant guy. Don't waste any more of your life.
Get help.
__________________
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?
or
Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
"KING of kings and LORD of lords"
ASAP.
Still praying for you, dear Steve.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>
> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
He remains untruthful.
> I'd love to hear it.
My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
ever-changing in their stories.
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.
Mike Painter
For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing and
usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
Uncle Vic
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> Stephen Knight wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
>> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
>> created.
>>
>> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
>> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
>>
>> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
>> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
Nope. None whatsoever:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd
>
> Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
>
> "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
>
> ASAP.
>
> Still praying for you, dear Steve.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> > Stephen Knight wrote:
> >> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Just leave !
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >> >
> >> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >> >11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
> >> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
> >> created.
> >>
> >> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
> >> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
> >>
> >> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
> >> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
> >
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd
> >
> > Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
> >
> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
> >
> > ASAP.
<hiss sputter hiss hiss>
Still praying for you, dear Uncle Vic.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
showing up here.
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear Mike.
Uncle Vic
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> Still praying for you, dear Uncle Vic.
I don't care.
Hawkeye-X
Indeed, and from what I read, Dr. Chung is really truly an incompetent
doctor, and that's why no hospital would allow Chung admitting
priveleges, and Chung is ignoring this post.
Cluck, Cluck Chung
Afraid to answer the Inquistion of the Holy One?
Hawkeye-X
Hawkeye-X
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Hawkeye-X wrote:
>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>
>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>
>He remains untruthful.
>
Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
ass.
>> I'd love to hear it.
>
>My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
>
>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>
>Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
>myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
>changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
>without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
>**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
>CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
>the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
at CFHC. He said you were fired with cause, and I know *EXACTLY* why.
Do you? Think about what you did, and I'm sure the pastor would say to
you, if he heard the same story I heard from Dr. Hilder, "BEGONE,
UNCLEAN SINNER, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING CLEAN AND NEVER WILL BE!"
And you claimed that Hilder was fired or forced to move on? Guess
what, Hildner said he is STILL and I quote "I was and still
am the Medical Director of the Cardiac Catheterization laboratory at
CFHC." and he has been in the position for 14 years.
His story has not changed, Yours have. And repeatedly. I find it VERY
hard to believe that you could POSSIBLY be telling the truth, when I
VERY much doubt that you know the difference between fantasy and
truth.
>
>Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
>ever-changing in their stories.
Um, that would be you, Chungboi. You're the big fat liar, and I have
the truth on my own e-mail, and I believe his story. He has FAR more
experience than you.
>Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.
I'm sure he's already laughing at your utter stupidity, Chungboi.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew B. Chung
>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Furthermore, I nominate and re-nominate Chung for Coward of the Month,
Tar & Feathers, Joseph Bartlo Pathetic Anal Pineapple Award, Palmjob
Paddle, Busted Urinal Award, Bolo Bullis Foam Duck, and George Pickett
Memorial Trophy, based on the fact that *I* know the truth, and
Chungboi continues to twist the truth as Dr. Hilder predicted
correctly.
and I quote from Dr. Hilder after he first contacted me:
"someday get into Chung's hands where it will be twisted,
misinterpreted and used for his unworthy purposes."
Even your old superior thinks you are UNWORTHY!
Hawkeye-X
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
> > But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
> HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
>
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Thank you brother Andrew for sharing that wsidom from God with my
weakness. I agree that free-will and disobeying God are certainly
aspects of this blessed story.
May I share that also the fig tree represents Israel/The law. The fig
Tree was like then Israel which was not prepared for the time of her
visitation, though she should have been for she had the Law and the
Prophets. The Fig tree had green leaves which represented the fruiting
season, yet out of season and the Lord of the Universe approached it
being hungry. However, it bore no fruit even though it advertised
fruit by its tender leaves.
The Lord of the Universe cursed the fig tree for having the show of
leaves but no fruit thereof. Likewise Israel had the show of the
Temple, Law and Prophets, but show no fruit. What was this fruit it
missed? Works of mercy, love, compasion, forgiveness, these were the
desire of the law, not a show without fruit.
Why did our Lord choose a fig tree to show to curse to refer to
israel. Two reasons.
1) Fig trees are very moist trees and when cut down the tree last for
a long time before it dries out. yet the Lord cursed this fig tree and
very soon after when they walked past this tree they saw it had
withered and died. Thus the Lord of the universe was able with only a
word, judge and remove the light from that tree immediately.
2). Israel was to reject her Messiah and she was about to be cut off,
however, her destruction was delayed and was not completed until 70
AD, yet God's love for His creation is not such that He has forgotten
about Israel after the flesh, but rather refers to the "when you see
the young shoots, then you will know the time is at hand." The young
shoots of course are the budding of Jacob into faith which many hold
will happen immediately befotre the end of time at the Last day when
Christ returns in Judgement.
The Fig Tree which you have correctly stated through the Holy Spirit
shows that we have free will and that disobedience is punished, is
Israel 9after the flesh-not spiritual israel- the Christian Church).
May God continue to bless and enlighten you as you turn to him in
faith.
Please remember me in your prayers.
Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
Michael Gray
I think that Chung's insanity may have had something to do with the
affair.
--
Mike Painter
>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>
>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>
>>> Hawkeye-X
>>
>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>
> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> showing up here.
>
I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
If you are sane, you would be moving to smaller and smaller communities
trying to get away from your record. When that failed you would move to a
different state.
In the old days, as a last resort, you would probably end up in a college
med center.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
I most certainly will.
May all knees bend and heads bow to acknowledge that Christ Jesus is
indeed:
"KING of kings and LORD of lords"
Amen !
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
ALMs for the poor in spirit :-)
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Mike Painter wrote:
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> > showing up here.
>
> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
practice from Dade County to Ocala.
Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 20:54:56 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>
> >> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >
> >He remains untruthful.
>
> Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
> about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
> details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
> and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
> memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
> ass.
Actually, being untruthful has nothing to do with the amount that he
knows but everything to do with his choice to avoid what is true. His
failing memory is a different issue altogether along with his failing
eyesight.
> >> I'd love to hear it.
> >
> >My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> >
> >> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >
> >Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
> >myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
> >changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
> >without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
> >**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
> >CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
> >the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
>
> Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
> at CFHC.
Actually, he did better by writing it down so that if what he has said
to you is as contradictory as you indicate, you now also know that he
is untruthful:
----Begin Email----
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.
Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in
the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers
more.
Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me
or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once
again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with
your colleagues.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
----End Email----
Simply note the last sentence. Moreover, it should be clear to the
most casual observer that this is a letter written not by a superior
but by a colleague who feels threatened by the truth.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Sometimes dear brother it is better to keep the truth close to your
heart and let the wolves attack.
Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
destroy or thieves despoil.
May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
Peace and grace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Truth is simple.
> >
> >Truth is absolute.
> >
> >Truth is invincible.
> >
> >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> >Laus Deo !
> >
> >Marana tha !
> >
> >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
> >
>
> heart and let the wolves attack.
Yes. Truth is close as my buckle holding GOD's armor in place. Faith
is my shield deflecting all flaming arrows from satan's legions of
archers. And the Holy Spirit is feeding my life force guiding me and
empowering me as HE did Samson so that my bare hands are dismembering
legions of satan's footsoldiers in moments, my shout is shattering
mountains in seconds, and my glance is destroying demons in an instant.
With the Holy Spirit, there is infinite strength, speed, and
foreknowledge.
When GOD is for us, who can stand against us ?
> Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
> treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
> destroy or thieves despoil.
Indeed.
> May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
HE has beyond all measure and all deserving. Laus Deo !
> Peace and grace.
May the Holy Spirit continue to comfort, encourage, protect, and
embolden you, dear brother whom I love, in the holy name of GOD's one
and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ, Who chose to suffer terribly
and die horribly on the cross to save us from our deadly sins. Many
thanks, much praise, and all the glory to HIM for rising up on that 3rd
day. Amen !
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Pastor Kutchie
Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
next is your fault.
Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
Athanasius
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
>next is your fault.
>
>Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
their group.
I do this as a courtesy.
Peace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Athanasius wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Truth is simple.
> > >
> > >Truth is absolute.
> > >
> > >Truth is invincible.
> > >
> > >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > >
> > >Laus Deo !
> > >
> > >Marana tha !
> > >
> > >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
> >
> > heart and let the wolves attack.
> >
> > Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
> > treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
> > destroy or thieves despoil.
> >
> > May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
> >
> > Peace and grace.
> >
> > Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
> > http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
> > "If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
> > the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
>
> Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> next is your fault.
>
> Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
In truth, I have no sockpuppets or other follower-equivalents but am
myself a follower and servant of LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/b7213e9d7efb94a5?
or
May GOD help you with your poor self-esteem, dear "little piece of
excrement" (your name for yourself per your usenet post which is
accessible via the link below my sig).
Amen !
Laus Deo !
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Yes, dear Jesus, that and my LORD, my Savior, and my GOD !
Marana tha !
Pastor Kutchie
Athanasius wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> >next is your fault.
> >
> >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
>
> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
>
> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> their group.
>
> I do this as a courtesy.
>
> Peace.
>
>
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
respectful human being and not, as I now realise, your sockpuppet.
It is a given, however, that you won't.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Earthquack? And why are you so consumed by your need to dehumanise and
dismiss me and others who have you bang to rights as a liar, twister
and a fraud, to such an extent that you have demonstrated on your own
website what a twister you are?
Or is it another example of your failure at English comprehension?
Either way, you have shown the World Wide Web how stupid you are.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> >next is your fault.
> >
> >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
>
> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
>
> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
bowl ?
> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> their group.
What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
> I do this as a courtesy.
They will take it as fear.
> Peace.
Just as Christ Jesus is not of this world.
We are not of this world.
Just as Christ Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world, but HIS
sword.
We have not come to bring peace to the world but the truth, Who is our
LORD.
Just as the risen Christ Jesus gave us HIS peace, which passes all
worldly understanding.
We share the LORD's peace with each other while standing resolute in
the truth.
The truth takes away the complacent and false peace of this world.
May the Holy Spirit give you the stamina to persevere to the very end,
dear brother whom I love, in Jesus' infinitely powerful and holy name.
Your reward will be given to you after crossing the finish line and is
not the race itself.
Amen !
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:49:04 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> condition?
Ask and answered already.
Would be happy to advise you after getting your history and examining
you.
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that you are exhibiting signs
of vascular dementia.
Still praying for you, dear Fred.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > >next is your fault.
> > >
> > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> >
> > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> >
> > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
>
> Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> bowl ?
>
> > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > their group.
>
> What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
> > I do this as a courtesy.
>
> They will take it as fear.
>
I took it as the action of a decent human being. Even synthesising
decent human behaviour is beyond you. That is far from normal, you
know.
Steve O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153381744....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Athanasius wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Truth is simple.
>> >
>> >Truth is absolute.
>> >
>> >Truth is invincible.
>> >
>> >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
>> >
>> >Laus Deo !
>> >
>> >Marana tha !
>> >
>> >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
>> >
>>
>> Sometimes dear brother it is better to keep the truth close to your
>> heart and let the wolves attack.
>
> Yes. Truth is close as my buckle holding GOD's armor in place. Faith
> is my shield deflecting all flaming arrows from satan's legions of
> archers. And the Holy Spirit is feeding my life force guiding me and
> empowering me as HE did Samson so that my bare hands are dismembering
> legions of satan's footsoldiers in moments, my shout is shattering
> mountains in seconds, and my glance is destroying demons in an instant.
>
> With the Holy Spirit, there is infinite strength, speed, and
> foreknowledge.
>
> When GOD is for us, who can stand against us ?
Looks like a certain former cardiologist is heading for another meltdown.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240
"Apparently, as I understand it , I am supposed to repent for being the way
that God made me, and then God will save me from God's wrath?"
Michael Gray
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <L5Fvg.70547$fb2....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>
>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Mike Painter wrote:
>>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>>
>>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>>
>>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>>
>>>> Hawkeye-X
>>>
>>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>>
>> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>> showing up here.
>>
>
>I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
>privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
>If you are sane,
Now that is where your advice falls down, I'm afraid.
>you would be moving to smaller and smaller communities
>trying to get away from your record. When that failed you would move to a
>different state.
>
>In the old days, as a last resort, you would probably end up in a college
>med center.
>
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:08:43 GMT, "Mike Painter"
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> - Refer: <L5Fvg.70547$fb2....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> Mike Painter wrote:
> >>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>>
> >>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>>
> >>>> Hawkeye-X
> >>>
> >>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >>
> >> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> >> showing up here.
> >>
> >
> >I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> >privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
> >
> >If you are sane,
>
> Now that is where your advice falls down, I'm afraid.
Yes, you are afraid.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and filled with fear of the truth.
Still praying for you, dear Michael.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> >
> >>On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >><nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Truth is simple.
> >>>
> >>>Truth is absolute.
> >>>
> >>>Truth is invincible.
> >>>
> >>>"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >>>
> >>>Laus Deo !
> >>>
> >>>Marana tha !
> >>>
> >>>Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Sometimes dear brother it is better to keep the truth close to your
> >>heart and let the wolves attack.
> >
> >
> > Yes. Truth is close as my buckle holding GOD's armor in place. Faith
> > is my shield deflecting all flaming arrows from satan's legions of
> > archers. And the Holy Spirit is feeding my life force guiding me and
> > empowering me as HE did Samson so that my bare hands are dismembering
> > legions of satan's footsoldiers in moments, my shout is shattering
> > mountains in seconds, and my glance is destroying demons in an instant.
>
Not for the discerning.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 01:59:12 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Yes.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and filled with fear.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
There has not been a first.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and so you fear.
Still praying for you,dear Steve.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Athanasius wrote:
> > > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > > >next is your fault.
> > > >
> > > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> > >
> > > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> > >
> > > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> >
> > Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> > bowl ?
> >
> > > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > > their group.
> >
> > What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
> What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
It can be used as medicine.
> > > I do this as a courtesy.
> >
> > They will take it as fear.
>
> I took it as the action of a decent human being.
You truly believe this is about you.
> Even synthesising
> decent human behaviour is beyond you.
The Holy Spirit continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.
> That is far from normal, you know.
That depends on HIS will, you don't know.
May GOD help you with your poor self-esteerm, dear neighbor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 01:37:08 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> >>
> >> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> >
> >Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> >bowl ?
>
That suggestion followed HIS helpful suggestion for us not to judge
others and tempts us to judge that HE contradicts HIS earlier
suggestion that we not judge. How can we know someone is swine without
judging him/her?
The answer is we can't. What is impossible for us, is possible with
GOD (Matthew 19:29).
> More importantly, how can we love someone whom we have judged to be swine ?
The answer is we can't. And so, if we choose to judge others, we will
be unable to obey our LORD's second of two commandments.
Therefore, this is not a contradiction but a test and a lesson.
This serves to test our faith in Jesus' teachings where many will fail
the test and fall away after having judged our LORD and Savior to be
contradictory (many in AA and agnostics fall in this category). This
serves to teach us to rely totally on HIM as we understand that we may
unknowingly and lovingly throw our pearls to swine but we trust HIM to
either steer us clear of such folks or heal us whole after we are torn
to pieces. Whatever be GOD's infinite will, let it be so.
> >> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> >> their group.
> >
> >What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
> The Lord spoke in Parables for it was not for all the interpretations
> of the kingdom. :-)
The Holy Spirit was sent to help counsel us about the LORD's teachings
:-)
> >> I do this as a courtesy.
> >
> >They will take it as fear.
>
> Its not.
>
> How they take it is irrelevant.
It is written that when it comes to dealing with non-believers we
should seize every opportunity to further GOD's kingdom here on earth.
> >> Peace.
> >
> >Just as Christ Jesus is not of this world.
>
> Christ Jesus was silent before herod, for the same reason I am silent
> in this matter.
> >
> >We are not of this world.
>
> They do not live in the City that we do.
> >
> >Just as Christ Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world, but HIS
> >sword.
>
> Spiritual sword.
> >
> >We have not come to bring peace to the world but the truth, Who is our
> >LORD.
>
> The one who remembers every idle word.
> >
> >Just as the risen Christ Jesus gave us HIS peace, which passes all
> >worldly understanding.
>
> Who said if your peace is not received it comes back to you and to
> leave that city, is your peace received in those groups?
> >
> >We share the LORD's peace with each other while standing resolute in
> >the truth.
>
> Yes and it is an honour to share with you.
> >
> >The truth takes away the complacent and false peace of this world.
>
> For those who are willing to receive it, not by force.
There is no force when informing folks about the truth in the manner of
posting to an unmoderated usenet newsgroup.
> >May the Holy Spirit give you the stamina to persevere to the very end,
> >dear brother whom I love, in Jesus' infinitely powerful and holy name.
>
> Thank you for your prayers and well wishes. May the Holy Spirit
> continue to bless you always. :-)
>
> >Your reward will be given to you after crossing the finish line and is
> >not the race itself.
>
> May it be so. And for you as well brother Andrew.
> >
> >Amen !
>
> Amen.
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Through the prayers of the saints of this day, may the Lord forgive us
> our sins and grant us His mercy and grace.
Amen.
> I am happy to discuss these things further offline Andrew if you wish,
> my email is below, just remove remove. :-)
It remains my choice to persevere in an open Christian fashion.
> Peace and grace be with you from the Lord Jesus Christ.
And with you. May the LORD's peace, which passes all worldly
understanding, remain with us forever in Jesus' most precious and holy
name.
Amen !
Many thanks and praise to GOD for the unity that comes from the
infinite love that our LORD has for us.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
::: veralein :::
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nos...@heartmdphd.com> typed:
> St Dog the Wet wrote:
>>>>> veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>>>
>>>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>>>
>>> Can you not answer?
>>>
>>> You deny the Deity of Christ,
>>
>> Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
>> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.
>
> Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
> Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
> bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's
> Book of Life.
Thank you, Andrew, for all you do, and for what you see in me. It means
much to me.
::: vera :::
> Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
::: veralein :::
Athanasius <dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au> typed:
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>> Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
>> Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does
>> not bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the
>> Lamb's Book of Life.
>
Thank you very much, Athanasius.
>> Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
>
> He needs it too. :-)
He needs prayer night and day.
Be blessed,
::: vera :::
>> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Peace and grace be with your spirit.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Athanasius wrote:
> > > > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > > > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > > > >next is your fault.
> > > > >
> > > > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> > > >
> > > > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> > > >
> > > > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> > >
> > > Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> > > bowl ?
> > >
> > > > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > > > their group.
> > >
> > > What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
> >
> > What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
>
> It can be used as medicine.
>
> > > > I do this as a courtesy.
> > >
> > > They will take it as fear.
> >
> > I took it as the action of a decent human being.
>
> You truly believe this is about you.
>
belong in this discussion any more.
> > Even synthesising
> > decent human behaviour is beyond you.
>
> The Holy Spirit continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.
>
No, hatred and contempt guide everything you do.
> > That is far from normal, you know.
>
> That depends on HIS will, you don't know.
Have you ever been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome?
Karl E. Taylor
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:35 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
> <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>
>>wbarwell wrote:
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>>>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>>> which makes god stupid.
>>> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>>> overnight.
>>>
>>> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>>> stupid like that.
>>> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>>> these lies was stupid.
>>>
>>> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>>> their own stupidity.
>>>
>>>
>>But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.
>
So then it's true, PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper. :-D
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor ktay...@getnet.net
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
Karl E. Taylor
> "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote in message
> news:p813p3-...@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
>> wbarwell wrote:
>> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >
>> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>> >>
>> >
>> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>> > which makes god stupid.
>> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>> > overnight.
>> >
>> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>> > stupid like that.
>> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>> > these lies was stupid.
>> >
>> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>> > their own stupidity.
>> >
>> >
>> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> history, which includes hysterical failed predictions of "global
> earthquakes" and "nuclear exchanges", indicate a mind filled with delusions.
>
Oh, believe me, I know Chunks is insane.
Making light of his degree is my way of dealing with the depression I feel at the
fact that good money was wasted to educate a psychopath.
Hawkeye-X
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Mike Painter wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Mike Painter wrote:
>> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd love to hear it.
>> >>>
>> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>> >>>
>> >>> Hawkeye-X
>> >>
>> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>> >
>> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>> > showing up here.
>>
>> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
>> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
>Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
>because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
>against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
>non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
>practice from Dade County to Ocala.
>
>Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew B. Chung
>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Umm, Hildner never lost his priveleges and was NEVER facing lawsuits.
Let's try another story.
Come on, you're making Jesus fall down and laugh at you.
Hawkeye-X
Mike Painter
> Mike Painter wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> Mike Painter wrote:
>>>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that
>>>>> Andrew B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>>>
>>>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkeye-X
>>>>
>>>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>>>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>>>
>>> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>>> showing up here.
>>
>> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not
>> having privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
> Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
> because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
> against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
> non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
> practice from Dade County to Ocala.
>
I'm talking about you and not interested in what is "apparently" a lie about
another doctor.
As for your praying for me, it's just another example which shows how
effective such actions are. I still remember when "prayer and a dime would
buy a cup of coffee". Even that does not work any more.
kora...@gmail.com
"Onward Christian spa-a-mers,
Spam-ming as be-e-fore,
With the cross of Je-sus
Left be-hind the door..."
:-)
Jason Johnson
B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 20:54:56 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>
> >> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >
> >He remains untruthful.
>
> Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
> about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
> details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
> and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
> memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
> ass.
Actually, being untruthful has nothing to do with the amount that he
knows but everything to do with his choice to avoid what is true. His
failing memory is a different issue altogether along with his failing
eyesight.
> >> I'd love to hear it.
> >
> >My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> >
> >> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >
> >Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
> >myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
> >changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
> >without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
> >**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
> >CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
> >the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
>
> Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
> at CFHC.
Actually, he did better by writing it down so that if what he has said
to you is as contradictory as you indicate, you now also know that he
is untruthful:
----Begin Email----
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.
Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in
the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers
more.
Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me
or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once
again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with
your colleagues.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
----End Email----
Simply note the last sentence. Moreover, it should be clear to the
most casual observer that this is a letter written not by a superior
but by a colleague who feels threatened by the truth.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Doctor Chung,
I noticed the title of one of the posts was
CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE
My first thought was
CHUNG WAS FIRED BE-CAUSE HE IS AN OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN THAT HAS
COMPASSION FOR HIS PATIENTS AND FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.
I don't know all of the details but based upon the details that I
do know--your true boss is not the hospital administrator so as long
as you please that boss you have nothing to worry about.
Remember these words: "Forgive them because they know not what they do."
Hang in there.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
listener
52-22-1.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net:
> Doctor Chung,
> I noticed the title of one of the posts was
> CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE
> My first thought was
> CHUNG WAS FIRED BE-CAUSE HE IS AN OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN THAT HAS
> COMPASSION FOR HIS PATIENTS AND FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.
>
> I don't know all of the details but based upon the details that I
> do know--your true boss is not the hospital administrator so as long
> as you please that boss you have nothing to worry about.
>
> Remember these words: "Forgive them because they know not what they do."
>
> Hang in there.
> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
I pictured that image of the kitten hanging by its paws....can this off-
topic wacko-religious stuff can anymore nauseating?
I'm tempted to change my nick to "TrueBoss"!
L.
Don Kirkman
article <1153367696.3...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
>myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
>changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
>without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
>**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
>CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
>the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
What was the resolution of your complaint to the Florida Medical Board
about CFHC's behavior?
--
Don Kirkman
R. Pierce Butler
news:ho3ub21b96l9ops04...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 04:09:03 GMT, "Mike Painter"
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
>>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>
>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>
>>> Hawkeye-X
>>
>>For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
>>and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>>
>
> Indeed, and from what I read, Dr. Chung is really truly an incompetent
> doctor, and that's why no hospital would allow Chung admitting
> priveleges, and Chung is ignoring this post.
>
> Cluck, Cluck Chung
>
> Afraid to answer the Inquistion of the Holy One?
>
> Hawkeye-X
>
What exactly have you read or know about Chung? Did he cause a death or
two?
Chung proves my theory that the most incompetent usually use God/Jesus as a
crutch or as a way to feel accepted when all others have rejected them.
R. Pierce Butler
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>
>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>
>> I'd love to hear it.
>>
>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>
>> Hawkeye-X
>
> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
> and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>
>
>
In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.
John
Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.
Blessings,
John
"Mark T"
Chef: Deborah Pitter
Your late night cook.
You need:
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1 clove of garlic
Fresh rosemary
I tablespoon olive oil
Salt
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Selected vegetables (eg.4 red skinned potatoes, 4 parsnips, 4 carrots, 4
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1 cup wine
Method:
Preheat oven to 220C. Make incisions into lamb and insert garlic. Rub meat
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Roast lamb for about 1 hour, depending on size. Test with tongs. Rest
covered in foil for 15 minutes. When vegetables are tender and golden brown,
remove to a warm plate. Pour fat from baking dish and deglaze with wine or
balsamic vinegar. Pour pan juices and wine over meat.
from http://www.abc.net.au/wa/stories/s394412.htm
R. Pierce Butler
@4ax.com:
That is a crock of shit. You know nothing about the medical profession.
Quit making excuses for Chung who is an obviously mentally disturbed
incompetent.
R. Pierce Butler
news:44c0...@dnews.tpgi.com.au:
What?!?!?!? No mint-apple jelly?
sensi
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153349273.2...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Diana wrote:
>> " ::: veralein :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in
>> message news:4i7ojeF...@individual.net...
>> > In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
>> > St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>> >>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>> >
>> > Can you not answer?
>> >
>> > on me when I asked you who Jesus is for you. You
>> > called him "my Lord and my God", and later denied HIs
>> > Deity.
>> >
>> >> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
>> >> ><> ><>
>> >
>> > 2 John 1:7-11 WEB
>> >
>> > (7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world,
>> > those who don't
>> > confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is
>> > the deceiver and
>> > the Antichrist.
>> >
>> > (8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things
>> > which we have
>> > accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
>> >
>> > (9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the
>> > teaching of Christ,
>> > doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the
>> > same has both the
>> > Father and the Son.
>> >
>> > (10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this
>> > teaching, don't
>> > receive him into your house, and don't welcome him,
>> > (11) for he who
>> > welcomes him participates in his evil works.
>> >
>> > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
>> > <>< <><
>> >
>> > Leave, Oldwetdog, just leave this place.
>> >
>> >> owd
>> >
>>
>> Vera,
>> Jesus did not cast out people from His presence.
>
> Actually, Christ Jesus used a whip to drive out the moneychangers from
> the Temple after overturning their tables.
sensi:
. The temple is HiS body. He's driving out bad 'thoughts and ideas within
his own.
He doesn't buy a cheap version.
> Moreover, HE did not invite the Pharisees to dine with HIM.
>
sensi:
In the "realm of food for thought" you don't eat everything people hand out.
> Diane, you remind me of Job's friends who would blame Job for the
> trouble he was having.
sensi:
In this case it is a friend called Blame.
> May our LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Diane whom I love.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Think
>> girl think. When you feel someone is a demon or evil
>> should you not rather CAST out the evil not the
>> person??? What would Jesus do Vera? Would he cast out
>> the person or the evil from the person???
>>
>> owd and Pastor Dave...My statement above is in general
>> and not to reflect that I think you two are evil or
>> have evil within. I love you both as my Brothers in
>> Christ as I love Vera as my Sister in Christ.
>
Michael Gray
- Refer: <ej30c2hibo9jkpn1v...@4ax.com>
Ah, Dr. Chung's trained house-boy speaks!
What's it like way up there in Chung's backide?
No wonder you keep dribbling complete crap about your insane hero.
Have Chungks perform open heart surgery on you, using only prayer
instead of anaesthetic, blood and antibiotics.
It'll confirm my faith in reality.
--
Mike Painter
> news:jason-2007061229180001@66- 52-22-1.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net:
>
>> Doctor Chung,
>> I noticed the title of one of the posts was
>> CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE
>> My first thought was
>> CHUNG WAS FIRED BE-CAUSE HE IS AN OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN THAT HAS
>> COMPASSION FOR HIS PATIENTS AND FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.
Clearly a person who has never spent much time in a Seventh Day Adventist
hospital.
(In the old days doctors had to prescribe meat for the patients. This was
usually done only once as the burned mass that was served rarely left the
plate.
Many of these doctors had never seen any alcohol related problems and on
many occasions the smell of alchol was enough for a diagnosis of "drunk" and
they were shipped to the county hospital. On at least two occasions these
people had serious head injuries and died as a result of such treatment.
Those doctors were outspoken christians with compassion - as long as thre
was no booze,)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yes. What LORD Jesus Christ has done for me makes me able to in turn
lovingly pray for them.
Many thanks and praise to GOD for your kind heart, dear Jason.
Hawkeye-X
Let's just say that his practices have almost caused unnecessary
overmedication before his superiors asked to stop this behavior.
Hawkeye-X
Actually based on what Dr. Hildner told me, Chung was completely
incompetent. Re-read what Hildner told him on his letter.
Hawkeye-X
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.
May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
They claimed there was not enough evidence of wrongdoing on both sides
(my complaint and CFHC's retaliatory counter-complaint) but refused to
provide a transcript of their closed door deliberations despite Florida
being a sunshine law state.
Still praying for you, dear Don.
Stephen Knight
wrote:
>Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
>> Stephen Knight wrote:
>>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> >> <snip>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Just leave !
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>>> >
>>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>>> >11:12,13,14).
>>>
>>> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
>>> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
>>> created.
>>>
>>> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
>>> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
>>>
>>> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
>>> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
>
>Nope. None whatsoever:
Standard fair for the 'Doctor'. He gets asked questions galore and
only responds with glassy eyed religobabble only understood by
Zombies.
The only reason I respond to him is because he is 'exquisitely'
irritating. I should plonk him. I want to. I can't. It's the 'Watching
Train Wreck Effect'. The EAC did a paper on this a few years ago.
Fascinating stuff. How Satan puts a hollow spot in your head that
forces you to watch his work through christians. Very compelling.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Jason Johnson
<hawkey...@comcast.net> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hawkey-X,
For the sake of discussion, let's assume that Dr. Hildner was correct in
everything that he wrote in his letter. How was Doctor Chung able to
graduate
from medical college and become a cardiologist if he is "completely
incompetent"? Doctor Chung still treats patients at his office. If he
truly was "completely incompetent", he would not be allowed to treat
patients.
Perhaps Dr. Hildner has an opinion that Dr. Hildner is completely
incompetent but that does not mean that every other doctor in that
hospital has that same attitude about Dr. Chung.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Mark T"
Blood!!!!
bob young
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> St Dog the Wet wrote:
> > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Just leave !
> >
> > Thanks, Vera ;-)
>
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> 11:12,13,14).
Nice fable.
your next intelligent point being.......................?
>
>
> Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
bob young
Gospel Bretts wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > Just leave !
> >>
> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >
> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >11:12,13,14).
> >
> >Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> >Andrew B. Chung
> >Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
>
> You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
It never ceases to amaze me that an intelligent human being
can rise to the ranks of a doctorhood
and yet still cling to early myths about imaginary gods in the sky.
If it tells us anything
it tells us that civilisation has a long way to go yet
>
>
> ------------------
>
> Gospel Bretts
> a.a. Atheist #2262
> Fundy Xian Atheist
John
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Thank you Andrew.
I guess I should have stated I was arguing from the premise that even
if everything Dr. Hildner said in that e-mail was true, what
inferences could reasonably be drawn. And that without regard to all
the self-serving blather such as standing on his "reputation". My
experience is that a good reputation can remain unspoken or else it
doesn't exist.
Blessings,
John
bob young
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> Gospel Bretts wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> > >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > >> <snip>
> > >>
> > >> > Just leave !
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> > >
> > >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> > >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> > >11:12,13,14).
> >
> > You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
> Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
My Hindu friend says the same thing about his god which has
the head of an elephant and the body of a woman.
When i look at the madness in Lebanon right now
I can say to myself mankind has far to go before we can call ourselves
civilised,
but it helps little at this sad time.
Jihad - a Holy War.
How many times has man used his imaginary god
as an excuse for fighting
another group of humans that follows a different imaginary god?
What a sick infantile primitive uselss uncaring minset.
[Although we are desended from the animal kingdom
no animal behaves as dispicably as man -
with his self satisfied smug arrogance, cringing behind his myth]
>
>
> > ------------------
> >
> > Gospel Bretts
> > a.a. Atheist #2262
> > Fundy Xian Atheist
>
> Oxymoron.
>
> You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Athanasius
wrote:
>It never ceases to amaze me that an intelligent human being
>can rise to the ranks of a doctorhood
>and yet still cling to early myths about imaginary gods in the sky.
There are many Christian doctors, Muslim doctors, Jewish doctors,
Hindu doctors, Buddhist doctors, Taoist doctors etc and I presume
atheist doctors and agnostic doctors.
It never ceases to amaze me how someone can be so intelligent and
still think the physical life is all there is. Especially when life is
NOT seen to come from nothing. "ex nihilo"
I have had the privilege of knowing a number of Christian Doctors over
the years (my church is very over represented with them thankfully)
and none of them seemed to be anything other than well balanced
professionals, well respected in their fields of service.
I thank God for Doctors, whether they believe in Him or not. ;-)
Peace and grace.
Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
Athanasius
of Christ. :-)
bob young
"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:35 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
> <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>
> >wbarwell wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>>
> >>
> >> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> >> which makes god stupid.
> >> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> >> overnight.
> >>
> >> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> >> stupid like that.
> >> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> >> these lies was stupid.
> >>
> >> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> >> their own stupidity.
> >>
> >>
> >But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
We must not lose sight of the fact that any level of
intelligence,
including stupidy, is set by the species that it is supposed to
measure,
herefore what is intelligent or stupid has little rral meaning.
My dog doesn't give a shit whether i am intelligent or not.
>
>
> So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.