Christ is the Foundation of the Sabbath

[Loirbaj]

All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
No man can ever begin to assess the fully glory
of his Design, but each scientist must try to.

[Davej]

On Dec 4, 6:58 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.

Yeah, especially those wooden bookends he made me. Very nice. Why not
follow in the footsteps of Christ and become a carpenter?

[Andre Lieven]

Because we now have Ikea... <g>

Andre

[Budikka666]

On Dec 4, 6:58 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> HELL yes I continue to demand you Debate me.

Do you want to debate the existence of this Jesus Christ, miracle
working son of a god, too, now that you agreed to debate me?

Since we will debate it right here in this thread, there is no need
for contact information. Since you and I will not be using our own
original research in this debate, there's no need for cvs, so let's
you and me get to it

Or you can run as you always do every single time I challenge you:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/9d608e83b35a9922
http://tinyurl.com/3hwywdl
http://tinyurl.com/7yyx83c
http://tinyurl.com/8yobgg4
http://tinyurl.com/6wk79as

Budikka

[Syd M.]

No.

PDW

[Loirbaj]

All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
No man can ever begin to assess the fully glory
of his Design, but each scientist must try to.

Ian Wood old man budikka said,
I do not want to debate you because I will not
provide the contact info and CV you request.

BroilJAB said,
That is the same reason you fled from the
esteemed Dr.Hovind. Keep running, old timer. LOL

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:58:07 -0800 (PST), Andre Lieven <andre...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

Jesus was a Swedish guy with a delivery system?

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

[Smiler]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:33:14 -0800, Davej wrote:

> On Dec 4, 6:58 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>> All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
>
> Yeah, especially those wooden bookends he made me.

Wooden bookends!?!?! You're bloody lucky. All he made me was a 10 foot
high cross! It won't even fit in my house.

> Very nice. Why not
> follow in the footsteps of Christ and become a carpenter?

--
Smiler,

The godless one. a.a.# 2279

All gods are tailored to order. They're made to

exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:54:47 +0000, Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:33:14 -0800, Davej wrote:
>
>> On Dec 4, 6:58 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>> All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
>>
>> Yeah, especially those wooden bookends he made me.
>
>Wooden bookends!?!?! You're bloody lucky. All he made me was a 10 foot
>high cross! It won't even fit in my house.
>
>> Very nice. Why not
>> follow in the footsteps of Christ and become a carpenter?

If he actually were a carpenter, and bearing in mind that Nazareth was
a necropolis at the time not a settlement, what would he have made?

Hmmm....

[Virgil]

In article
<ceefbb28-5628-48df...@g21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

"Today's professional evolutionism is no more a secular religion than
is industrial chemistry."
- Michael Ruse, Science Magazine

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/299/5612/1523.full

Besides, it is a sure thing that science will prove abiogenesis
scientifically possible before anyone proves Evolution scientifically
impossible.
--

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:16:16 -0700, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:

>In article
><ceefbb28-5628-48df...@g21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
>"Today's professional evolutionism is no more a secular religion than
>is industrial chemistry."
>- Michael Ruse, Science Magazine

It's a lie dishonest creationists tell their stupid, ignorant
followers who have such low intelligence they repeat it to people with
a better uderstanding of the world.

>http://www.sciencemag.org/content/299/5612/1523.full
>
>Besides, it is a sure thing that science will prove abiogenesis
>scientifically possible before anyone proves Evolution scientifically
>impossible.

Altready been done.

Do a google on Sidney Fox and protocells, for work done forty or more
years ago, that resulted in simple proto cells being formed in the lab
by applying perfectly natural processes to amino acids.

Or more recently Jack Szostak who won a Nobel frize for his work.

Creationists would do well to heed the following, originally posted in
talk.origins Sept 1993 by Tom Scharle

Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis (De Genesi ad litteram
libri duodecim) (translated by J. H. Taylor, Ancient Christian
Writers, Newman Press, 1982, volume 41)
Book 1 Chapter 19 Paragraph 39

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth,
the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the
motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative
positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the
cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals,
shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as
being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a
disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a
Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture,
talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to
prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up
vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is
not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that
people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers
held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose
salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and
rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a
field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his
foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe
those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead,
the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they
think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they
themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason?
Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold
trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in
one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by
those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For
then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue
statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof
and even recite from memory many passages which they think support
their position, although _they understand neither what they say
nor the things about which they make assertion_. [1 Timothy 1.7]"

[Alex W.]

Karen Carpenter is Christ?

[Father Haskell]

On Dec 4, 10:33 am, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

And also plumbing, electric, and HVAC.

[Budikka666]

Your cheap excuses fool noone but yourself. I stood in front of you
offering to debate you right here, and you RAN and hid behind the
cheapest and most pathetic excuses divisable.

Keep running you chickenshit coward.

Budikka

[Loirbaj]

Again, old man 'budikka' races by...to claim that
'everyone is running from me', yet here I stand waiting
for you CV and contact info, to begin debate. Damn
your weasel hide, old timer, stop running!


Aluminium and Titanium metals are found in
nature otherwise they would not exist for humans to
make use of. --DevilsAdvocaat

[Mogons]

Man is the foundation of the sabbath. and man is wrong.

mogons

[Dakota]

Most Xtians don't observe the same Sabbath day as BibleJesus did. They
switched it to Sunday when they were still going batshit crazy about
Jews killing him.

[Father Haskell]

Geez, give credit to Iommi.

[Loirbaj]

All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
No man can ever begin to assess the fully glory
of his Design, but each scientist must try to.

mogons said

Man is the foundation of the sabbath.
and man is wrong.

BroilJAB said,
Interesting premise, mogons.
Praise His Creation!

[Father Haskell]

Well, okay, Geezer deserves some credit.

[Buddythunder]

No way, the foundation of Sabbath is Tommy Iommi!

[Virgil]

In article
<147a2ec1-2e1e-404c...@o9g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:


>
> mogons said

> Man is the foundation of civilization.

The Theory of Evolution and True Christianity:

Most of Christianity has already accepted the overwhelming physical
evidence that human's physical bodies were formed by Evolution.

But it is only the souls of those humans that Christianity is concerned
with, and Evolution in particular, and Science in general, say nothing
at all about such souls.

Thus between the Theory of Evolution and other sciences on the one hand,
and True Christianity on the other, there is, and can be, no conflict.

So that any religion that disses Evolution is no part of True
Christianity, or any true religion.
--

[Loirbaj]

Christ gives each man Free Will choice.
Do not lose Pascal Wager and enter Hell.
For 130 years Darwin has been in agony.
After all those endless years has his time
been shortened by even one day? No.

[Syd M.]

On Dec 5, 8:07 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> All praise and glory His magnificent Creation.
> No man can ever begin to assess the fully glory
> of his Design, but each scientist must try to.
>
> Ian Wood old man budikka said,
> I do not want to debate you because I will not
> provide the contact info and CV you request.
>
> BroilJAB said,
> That is the same reason you fled from the
> esteemed Dr.Hovind.

The only one running is you, delusional boy.

PDW

[Syd M.]

On Dec 6, 4:48 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Christ gives each man Free Will choice.

Prove your god exists before claiming it did something, loser.

PDW

[Budikka666]

On Dec 6, 3:48 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Christ gives each man Free Will choice.

There's no such thing as free will, and when I offered to debate this
fictional Christ with you back on July 2nd, YOU RAN AWAY:
http://tinyurl.com/6kck7b5

But I'm right here right now. You don't need my phone number since
we're not debating this on the phone, we're debating it right here in
this thread.

You don't need my cv since we're not using our own original research
in this debate. So what cheap, flimsy, and cowardly excuse do you
have left, Loser?

Budikka

[Loirbaj]

Christ gives each man Free Will choice.

siod said,

Prove your god exists before claiming it did
something, loser.

BroilJAB said,
Since BY DEFINITION 'science' now excludes
discussion of the metaphysical and God, then
BY DEFINITION 'there can be no scientific
proof' obtained. Do not lose Pascal's Wager
and self-elect for eternal Hell. Choose wisely.

[Devils Advocaat]

Then tell us all why so many believers insist that they have
scientific evidence for the existence of their chosen deity?

[Loirbaj]

Praise Him each day of Creation.
Do not believe hucksters say you
'sprang Spontaneous Generation' from
monkey

[Budikka666]

On Dec 6, 3:48 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Christ gives each man Free Will choice.

There's no such thing as free will, as you admitted when you RAN here:
http://tinyurl.com/c47efyr

and when we offered to debate this fictional Christ with you back on

July 2nd, YOU RAN AWAY:
http://tinyurl.com/6kck7b5

When we accepted *your* offer to debate right here in this thread, YOU
RAN like the stinking diarrhea you are.

Can anyone point to a bigger coward on Usenet than Liarboi the
Loonbag? He excels even Duck & Run Duke and All Flee and Hide in
cowardice

Budikka

[Devils Advocaat]

I guess your silence on this means you have no answer to offer.