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TJCole
Jan 23, 2014, 3:32:53 PM1/23/14
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Reading a book at the moment (Lamar Waldron's latest one) and it mentions
that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone. I am
interested in any further information on this (google didn't help much)
that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone. I am
interested in any further information on this (google didn't help much)
Anthony Marsh
Jan 23, 2014, 11:55:12 PM1/23/14
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used by spies.
Jean Davison
Jan 24, 2014, 12:36:07 AM1/24/14
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dollar bills cut in half were found among Oswald's possessions?
Are you curious about what this claim is based on? I sure am!
Jean
John McAdams
Jan 24, 2014, 10:30:00 AM1/24/14
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On 24 Jan 2014 00:36:07 -0500, Jean Davison <jean.d...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Since Thalia claims to be skeptical about "authority," I wonder
whether it has ever occurred to her to be skeptical of authors with
books to sell.
wrote:
whether it has ever occurred to her to be skeptical of authors with
books to sell.
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Bud
Jan 24, 2014, 3:30:46 PM1/24/14
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On Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:32:53 PM UTC-5, TJCole wrote:
> Reading a book at the moment (Lamar Waldron's latest one) and it mentions
>
> that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
>
> possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
>
> dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
>
> Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
>
> the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
>
> couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone.
If he knew what the person looked like why would he need the carton top,
> Reading a book at the moment (Lamar Waldron's latest one) and it mentions
>
> that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
>
> possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
>
> dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
>
> Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
>
> the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
>
> couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone.
presumably the person would know him by sight also.
And why would he have a meeting set up in the Texas Theater in the
afternoon on a work day?
Bud
Jan 24, 2014, 3:31:08 PM1/24/14
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half of this dollar?".
Anthony Marsh
Jan 25, 2014, 12:22:09 AM1/25/14
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On 1/24/2014 3:30 PM, Bud wrote:
> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:32:53 PM UTC-5, TJCole wrote:
>> Reading a book at the moment (Lamar Waldron's latest one) and it mentions
>>
>> that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
>>
>> possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
>>
>> dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
>>
>> Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
>>
>> the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
>>
>> couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone.
>
> If he knew what the person looked like why would he need the carton top,
> presumably the person would know him by sight also.
>
No. Read about the Rosenberg spy ring.
> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:32:53 PM UTC-5, TJCole wrote:
>> Reading a book at the moment (Lamar Waldron's latest one) and it mentions
>>
>> that several dollar bills that had been cut in half were found in Oswald's
>>
>> possessions. It could be assumed that Oswald would have used the half
>>
>> dollar bill to meet up with a contact who would have the matching half.
>>
>> Also, Oswald had half a carton top on his person when he was arrested in
>>
>> the theatre and a witness inside the theatre reported that he sat next a
>>
>> couple of different people in the cinema as if looking for someone.
>
> If he knew what the person looked like why would he need the carton top,
> presumably the person would know him by sight also.
>
A day or two later David and his wife went to the Rosenberg apartment for
dinner where they were introduced to a woman friend of the Rosenbergs.
After she left, Julius told the Greenglasses that he thought this person
would come to see David to receive information on the atom bomb. They
discussed a tentative plan wherein Ruth Greenglass would move to
Albuquerque; this woman would also meet Ruth in a movie theater in Denver,
Colorado to exchange purses. Ruth's purse would contain the information
from David concerning Los Alamos.
To identify the person who would come to see Ruth, it was agreed that Ruth
would use a side piece of a Jello box. Julius held the matching piece of
the Jello box. David suggested that meeting be held in front of a certain
grocery store in Albuquerque. The date of the meeting was left to depend
upon the time that Ruth would depart for Albuquerque.
During this visit, Julius said that he would like to have David meet a
Russian with whom he could discuss the project on which David was working.
A few nights later Julius made an appointment for David to meet a Russian
on First Avenue between 42nd and 59th streets in New York City. David
drove up to the appointed meeting place and parked the car near a saloon
in a dark street. Julius came up to the car, looked in, went away, and
came back with a man who got into David's car. Julius stayed on the
street, and David drove away with the unknown man. The man asked David
about some scientific information, and after driving around for a while,
David returned to the original meeting place and let the man out. This man
was then joined by Rosenberg, who was standing on the street, and David
observed them leaving together.
In the spring of 1945, Ruth Greenglass came to Albuquerque to live, and
David visited her apartment on weekends. On the first Sunday of June 1945,
a man, subsequently identified by David as Harry Gold, came to visit him
and asked if David's name was Greenglass. David said that it was, and Gold
then said, "Julius sent me." David went to his wife's wallet and took out
the piece of the Jello box and compared it with the piece offered by Gold.
They matched.
> And why would he have a meeting set up in the Texas Theater in the
> afternoon on a work day?
>
Bud
Jan 25, 2014, 11:00:04 AM1/25/14
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going to a public place.
>
>
>
>
> > And why would he have a meeting set up in the Texas Theater in the
>
> > afternoon on a work day?
>
> >
>
>
>
> Less likely to be noticed or photographed.
committed.
OHLeeRedux
Jan 27, 2014, 1:10:48 PM1/27/14
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Oswald did not have any cut-in-half dollar bills on him. That is just
another CT rumor, created out of thin air.
If you disagree, then prove it. And that doesn't mean a link to some silly
CT site.
another CT rumor, created out of thin air.
If you disagree, then prove it. And that doesn't mean a link to some silly
CT site.
Anthony Marsh
Jan 27, 2014, 9:07:27 PM1/27/14
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that it's easy to see if it was a mistake or hoax like the one about
Oswald being and FBI informant.
ztwo...@gmail.com
Sep 24, 2017, 2:33:59 PM9/24/17
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It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
notes at the time of his arrest. It was not noted in the FBI report but
was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
notes at the time of his arrest. It was not noted in the FBI report but
was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
Jason Burke
Sep 25, 2017, 12:26:02 PM9/25/17
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Now, did you have a point?
mainframetech
Sep 26, 2017, 7:29:02 PM9/26/17
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person. The serial number on one half will match the same number on the
other half. It could be used to prove that the other person was contacted
by a friend, etc.
Chris
Ace Kefford
Sep 26, 2017, 7:33:22 PM9/26/17
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Bud
Sep 28, 2017, 11:32:55 PM9/28/17
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On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, ztwo...@gmail.com wrote:
> It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
> person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
> case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
> indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
> notes at the time of his arrest.
Does anyone know if this is true?
> person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
> case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
> indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
> notes at the time of his arrest.
mr.david...@gmail.com
Mar 21, 2018, 11:23:31 PM3/21/18
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The City of Dallas, John F. Kennedy archives does contain a handwritten
note (author unknown) that records the serial numbers of the two bills.
The bills were found in Oswald's possessions at his apartment. When Oswald
was arrested he was found to be carrying a box top labeled "Cox's, Ft.
Worth". Cox's was, I believe, a dress store, though my memory on that may
be incorrect. The Rosenbergs used the same method if identifying
themselves to their cut-out. David Adler Philips also wrote in 1977 that
he would instruct his agents to meet in a theater and that the exchange if
some pre-arranged item be conducted to guarantee bona fides.
note (author unknown) that records the serial numbers of the two bills.
The bills were found in Oswald's possessions at his apartment. When Oswald
was arrested he was found to be carrying a box top labeled "Cox's, Ft.
Worth". Cox's was, I believe, a dress store, though my memory on that may
be incorrect. The Rosenbergs used the same method if identifying
themselves to their cut-out. David Adler Philips also wrote in 1977 that
he would instruct his agents to meet in a theater and that the exchange if
some pre-arranged item be conducted to guarantee bona fides.
claviger
Mar 23, 2018, 12:12:38 AM3/23/18
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name? Adler means "Eagle" in German.
Bud
Mar 23, 2018, 12:22:03 AM3/23/18
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On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 11:23:31 PM UTC-4, mr.david...@gmail.com wrote:
> The City of Dallas, John F. Kennedy archives does contain a handwritten
> note (author unknown) that records the serial numbers of the two bills.
Were they half bills?
> The City of Dallas, John F. Kennedy archives does contain a handwritten
> note (author unknown) that records the serial numbers of the two bills.
> The bills were found in Oswald's possessions at his apartment. When Oswald
> was arrested he was found to be carrying a box top labeled "Cox's, Ft.
> Worth".
> Cox's was, I believe, a dress store, though my memory on that may
> be incorrect. The Rosenbergs used the same method if identifying
> themselves to their cut-out. David Adler Philips also wrote in 1977 that
> he would instruct his agents to meet in a theater and that the exchange if
> some pre-arranged item be conducted to guarantee bona fides.
movies until Oswald shows up?
Steve M. Galbraith
Mar 23, 2018, 12:22:32 AM3/23/18
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$5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
That was listed in one document as a "half dollar." The conspiracy crowd -
some of them - apparently turned that "half dollar", which again was a 50
cent coin, into a single dollar bill cut in half. Or two half dollars.
So a 50 cents piece/coin turns into a half dollar then turns into two half
dollar pieces cut in half turns into Oswald had evidence he was a spy on
him.
I am not aware of any document showing that he had a cut dollar bill.
Here: https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0104b.htm
See pages 178 and 179.
Also, the contents of his wallet - no cut bills were indicated - are here:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490#relPageId=220&tab=page
And here:
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0018a.htm
Anthony Marsh
Mar 23, 2018, 11:21:29 AM3/23/18
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contact has one half and the cutout has the other half and they make sure
they match up to confirm who the cutout is. I don't think a random dollar
bill from Oswald is related at all. The Cox label is interesting, but
probably not a clue.
Steve M. Galbraith
Mar 23, 2018, 8:23:36 PM3/23/18
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Nowhere in any inventory of items found on him do I see anything about a
cut bill or half a bill.
I do see reference to a single half dollar mentioned; but again, that was
a 50 cent piece.
Bud
Mar 23, 2018, 9:09:00 PM3/23/18
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On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:22:32 AM UTC-4, Steve M. Galbraith wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 11:32:55 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, ztwo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
> > > person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
> > > case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
> > > indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
> > > notes at the time of his arrest.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is true?
> >
> > >It was not noted in the FBI report but
> > > was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
> > > his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
> > > was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
> > > em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
>
> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
I believe this is the document...
> > On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, ztwo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
> > > person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
> > > case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
> > > indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
> > > notes at the time of his arrest.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is true?
> >
> > >It was not noted in the FBI report but
> > > was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
> > > his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
> > > was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
> > > em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
>
> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0190-001.gif
I made this post over the nuthouse around six months ago where I speculated that this is where the dollar cut in half story came from...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/BUImrZ0SYpo/mQH6IZ3WAAAJ
Interestingly Ben Holmes`s response to the link to that police report was to say this...
"This is a cite to what he had in his possession at the time of the
arrest. It has nothing to do with the dollar bills."
It was Ben`s contention that even though the cite mentioned dollar bills it had nothing to do with dollar bills.
> That was listed in one document as a "half dollar." The conspiracy crowd -
> some of them - apparently turned that "half dollar", which again was a 50
> cent coin, into a single dollar bill cut in half. Or two half dollars.
> So a 50 cents piece/coin turns into a half dollar then turns into two half
> dollar pieces cut in half turns into Oswald had evidence he was a spy on
> him.
> I am not aware of any document showing that he had a cut dollar bill.
>
> Here: https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0104b.htm
>
> See pages 178 and 179.
>
> Also, the contents of his wallet - no cut bills were indicated - are here:
>
> https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490#relPageId=220&tab=page
>
> And here:
> https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0018a.htm
Anthony Marsh
Mar 24, 2018, 11:42:29 AM3/24/18
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Anthony Marsh
Mar 24, 2018, 4:08:18 PM3/24/18
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Anthony Marsh
Mar 24, 2018, 4:22:03 PM3/24/18
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On 3/23/2018 9:08 PM, Bud wrote:
> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:22:32 AM UTC-4, Steve M. Galbraith wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 11:32:55 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, ztwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
>>>> person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
>>>> case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
>>>> indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
>>>> notes at the time of his arrest.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is true?
>>>
>>>> It was not noted in the FBI report but
>>>> was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
>>>> his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
>>>> was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
>>>> em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
>>
>> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
>> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
>> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
>
> I believe this is the document...
>
> http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0190-001.gif
>
Yes, thanks. Worth noting that the evidence sheet says "8" one dollar
> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:22:32 AM UTC-4, Steve M. Galbraith wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 11:32:55 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-4, ztwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> It has come to at least my attention that the contents of a criminals
>>>> person, when booked, are reviewed by the local constabulatory, in this
>>>> case, the dallas police. It was revealed in 79', after subpoena, that
>>>> indeed oswald was in posession of two halfs of two separate one dollar
>>>> notes at the time of his arrest.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is true?
>>>
>>>> It was not noted in the FBI report but
>>>> was in the Dallas criminal file. Missing aswell, interestingly enough, was
>>>> his wallet which contained two IDs with his picture on them. One of them
>>>> was for an Alek Hidell. There are picture images online. Go ahead, check
>>>> em' out. They're interesting. I will not respond.
>>
>> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
>> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
>> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
>
> I believe this is the document...
>
> http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0190-001.gif
>
bills. If my childhood math still works that adds up to $13.
> I made this post over the nuthouse around six months ago where I speculated that this is where the dollar cut in half story came from...
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/BUImrZ0SYpo/mQH6IZ3WAAAJ
>
> Interestingly Ben Holmes`s response to the link to that police report was to say this...
>
> "This is a cite to what he had in his possession at the time of the
> arrest. It has nothing to do with the dollar bills."
>
> It was Ben`s contention that even though the cite mentioned dollar bills it had nothing to do with dollar bills.
>
>
>> That was listed in one document as a "half dollar." The conspiracy crowd -
>> some of them - apparently turned that "half dollar", which again was a 50
>> cent coin, into a single dollar bill cut in half. Or two half dollars.
>
> That is what I surmised happened, but I wasn`t sure. I asked whether it was true that Oswald had a partial dollar bill in my post about 6 months back and got no answer. I thought it was possible it came from a different source other than the police report I linked to.
>
>> So a 50 cents piece/coin turns into a half dollar then turns into two half
>> dollar pieces cut in half turns into Oswald had evidence he was a spy on
>> him.
>
> They enjoy playing silly games with the evidence in this case.
>
Anthony Marsh
Mar 24, 2018, 8:13:02 PM3/24/18
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>
Steve BH
Mar 24, 2018, 8:13:49 PM3/24/18
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On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 9:22:32 PM UTC-7, Steve M. Galbraith wrote:
> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
>
> That was listed in one document as a "half dollar."
And that half-dollar on Oswald's pocket would have been a Benjamin
> Bud, when Oswald was arrested he was found to have five $1 dollar bills, a
> $5 dollar bill and 87 cents in change. Among the change was a 50 cents
> piece. Again, a fifty cent *coin*.
>
> That was listed in one document as a "half dollar."
Franklin half-dollar. NOT a JFK one. ;')
Helpfully, Steve
Bud
Mar 24, 2018, 8:55:03 PM3/24/18
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Steve M. Galbraith
Mar 26, 2018, 12:38:08 AM3/26/18
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Which raises the question of what was found there? I'm not aware of any
inventory of items retrieved from that location. The Paine garage? Yes,
but not his room.
Maybe someone smarter than me can step in. David?
Anthony Marsh
Mar 26, 2018, 11:08:11 AM3/26/18
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