The Garden

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 18, 2021, 6:21:50 AM3/18/21

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https://www.hieronymous707.com/2020/05/the-garden.html

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 18, 2021, 1:24:09 PM3/18/21

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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 6:21:50 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> https://www.hieronymous707.com/2020/05/the-garden.html

I assume it was intentional, but why did you use plurals?

>> Each hogs and masked bandits can eat a whole plant.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 18, 2021, 1:39:15 PM3/18/21

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You are wrong to assume. Thanks for your attention. Btw,
hogs and masked bandits are groundhogs and raccoons
respectively. I probably shouldn’t assume you knew that.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 18, 2021, 2:18:11 PM3/18/21

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Yep, masked bandits are on my like list as long as they stay out of the trash and hogs are on my shit list, of which badgers hold the top position. Ever hear of a whistle pig?

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 18, 2021, 2:30:28 PM3/18/21

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That’s some good rye whiskey.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 18, 2021, 2:36:15 PM3/18/21

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I've never heard prairie dogs whistling about rye whiskey, but who knows, I don't know their language :P

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 18, 2021, 6:32:15 PM3/18/21

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Whistle Pig is a brand name.
https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 18, 2021, 7:15:23 PM3/18/21

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Eh, I didn't know... Well, it ain't prairie dogs brewing it, not in Vermont.

BTW: The ending of your poem, I took as coexistence.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 18, 2021, 7:26:08 PM3/18/21

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That makes sense. Thanks.

General Zod

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Mar 18, 2021, 10:50:36 PM3/18/21

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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 6:21:50 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> https://www.hieronymous707.com/2020/05/the-garden.html

An old favorite from Corey...

Zod

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Mar 19, 2021, 10:59:03 PM3/19/21

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Raccoons...?

Zod

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Mar 20, 2021, 10:44:54 PM3/20/21

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Now, now, Corey... be nice...

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 20, 2021, 11:19:06 PM3/20/21

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I believe your still stuck in fighting mode, there was nothing "not nice" about his statement to me. It was pretty neutral. There was nothing wrong in him telling I was wrong.

Zod

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:37:35 PM3/21/21

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Look at the mode your beloved Rochester is in... please, Ash, try not to be such a hypocrite...

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2021, 11:13:49 PM3/21/21

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Look where?

Will Dockery

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Mar 21, 2021, 11:48:39 PM3/21/21

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Just about any post he makes.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:11:23 AM3/22/21

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I saw possibly one-- and it looked like he was being polite about it. Plumb cohort was actually much more amusing that the usual derogatory.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2021, 1:15:36 AM3/22/21

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Make that plump.

And beloved... you don't know me very well. Beloved would describe some certain people's adoration of their beat poets. I admire, that's the best anyone is going to get from me-- I'm actually very egoistical in my refusal to put people on pedestals above me.

Will Dockery

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Mar 22, 2021, 5:19:14 AM3/22/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:

I think he was being sarcastic with the "beloved" bit.

:)

ME

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Mar 22, 2021, 6:10:40 AM3/22/21

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Will, almost 90% of Jim’s posts are poems. Stop trying to start an argument.
You’re now just trying to discredit Ash.

Will Dockery

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Mar 22, 2021, 6:16:01 AM3/22/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 6:10:40 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
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> Will, almost 90% of Jim’s posts are poems. Stop trying to start an argument.
> You’re now just trying to discredit Ash.

No, I'm not doing that at all, please don't misrepresent me.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 22, 2021, 6:25:09 AM3/22/21

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Silly me, I saw the thread at the top, and thought you
two might have had something to say about the poem.

ME

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Mar 22, 2021, 6:52:31 AM3/22/21

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I’m not misrepresenting you. I’m stating a fact.

W.Dockery

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Mar 22, 2021, 7:12:04 AM3/22/21

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ME wrote:
>
> I’m not misrepresenting you.

Yes, you are.

What you wrote about me was untrue, a misrepresention.

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 22, 2021, 7:22:01 AM3/22/21

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You are correct, ME....yesterday I posted more poetry than the two dead-beats in a month.

For Dockery and his editor wonder why he isn't in the compilation, is self explanatory.

The two dead-beats are responsible for this groups ugly face and any thought that fewer posts by the dead-beats would create a better group, is foolish.

You sprinkle in some Jordy, and some gospel by an ex Russian patriot...add in the spaghetti logic of Dance up in Canada and you wind up with a very sour stew.

Michael and now Mr. Ash have tried their best to smooth the waters and from that we get blogs by two of the worst members here.

Michaels monthly gig is well worth the time I spend here, watching s it just ight become the answer. Too think offering the two dead-beats respect is pure folly.

All that is needed is to review their work, their words and deeds. Nothing points to anything worthwhile.

With that said, I'll go back to poetry, after all this is a poetry group.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 22, 2021, 7:22:50 AM3/22/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 6:52:31 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:

“We are stardust. We are golden, and we've got to get ourselves back to The Garden.”

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 22, 2021, 8:06:03 AM3/22/21

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I’ll be working in The Garden
all the live-long day.
I'll be working in The Garden
just to pass the time away.

Can't you hear the tiller growling?
Rise up, so early in the morn!
Can't you hear the neighbor shouting,
"Are you gonna grow corn?”

W.Dockery

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Mar 22, 2021, 10:14:03 AM3/22/21

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Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
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> With that said, I'll go back to poetry, after all this is a poetry group.

If you could stick to the poetry and stay off the soapbox, you might be onto something.

:)

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 22, 2021, 11:23:46 AM3/22/21

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May her pleas be granted, tiller, we meet again.
May snap peas be planted, tiller, we meet again.
Tiller, how long have we been friends?
Tiller, it’s time to till again,
until the tilling season ends.
Tiller, we meet again.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:41:08 PM3/22/21

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*Cough, cough* I should had paid attention to the wildfire advisory: heavy debris of desiccated husks of undying arguments, acrid acrimonious air, stiff scathing winds and just one spark to make the thread go up in flames. My apology Hieronymous, although the spark was from Zod, I was merely an accessory to the crime.
Your garden should be safe. But, like Eden's garden, there may be no place for it due to circumstance. Here, we're scathed and scorched.

Your garden, my house...

"Well, you're high on top of your mountain of woe
Gotta come on up to the house
Well, you know you should surrender, but you can't let it go
You gotta come on up to the house, yeah."

Come up to the House, Tom Waits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxV16oHII6k

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 22, 2021, 4:34:20 PM3/22/21

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Our house is a very, very, very fine house.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2021, 4:57:06 PM3/22/21

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*thumbs up* (hope you enjoyed the selection, a fav)

And to add insult to injury, I come with my soapbox to this smouldering thread to expound. To wax with smart ass philosophy and wane with slaughtered poetry. To declare fleeting but most likely imaginary victory over a foe having not the slightest hint of a clue. And just like a bad sequel, the antagonist will come back unenlightened and undaunted. It could become a franchise: of for-fucking-ever flailing and flaying fools figuratively.

Turn Off The News (Build A Garden)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTulrGo-2T4

Zod

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Mar 22, 2021, 11:00:03 PM3/22/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 3:41:08 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
> *Cough, cough* I should had paid attention to the wildfire advisory: heavy debris of desiccated husks of undying arguments, acrid acrimonious air, stiff scathing winds and just one spark to make the thread go up in flames. My apology Hieronymous, although the spark was from Zod, I was merely an accessory to the crime.
> Your garden should be safe. But, like Eden's garden, there may be no place for it due to circumstance. Here, we're scathed and scorched.
>
> Your garden, my house...
>
> "Well, you're high on top of your mountain of woe
> Gotta come on up to the house
> Well, you know you should surrender, but you can't let it go
> You gotta come on up to the house, yeah."
>
> Come up to the House, Tom Waits
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxV16oHII6k

Love Tom Waits...

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:00:22 AM3/23/21

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Speak of the devil.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 3:00:22 PM3/23/21

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Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my game?

I cannot see you, or them, or myself,
nor any of our beauty or ugliness.
But I am not completely lost-
for I can hear it in everyone's words-
that which reveals their true intents,
casts an unforgiving light upon their deeds.
I would say it is for the best-
not to see what we have become,
but I am still cursed to hear it.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 3:43:47 PM3/23/21

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“I believe that there is one story in the world,
and only one. . . . Humans are caught—in their
lives, in their thoughts, in their hungers and
ambitions, in their avarice and cruelty, and in
their kindness and generosity too—in a net of
good and evil. . . . There is no other story. A man,
after he has brushed off the dust and chips of his
life, will have left only the hard, clean questions:
Was it good or was it evil? Have I done well—or ill?”
― John Steinbeck, East of Eden

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 5:25:08 PM3/23/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
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> yesterday I posted more poetry than the two dead-beats in a month

I do have poetry, thanks for asking.

At present, all of my poetry is going on my Shadowville Mythos blog, and I'll be posting selections from there here in the near future:

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

ME

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:03:35 PM3/23/21

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You just can’t help yourself can you, will?
Your juvenile and self absorbed mindset is deplorable.
And you wonder why the majority of others despise you.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:20:08 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:03:35 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 23 March 2021 at 17:25:08 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > >
> > > yesterday I posted more poetry than the two dead-beats in a month

So what, this isn't a race, is it?

> > I do have poetry, thanks for asking.
> >
> > At present, all of my poetry is going on my Shadowville Mythos blog, and I'll be posting selections from there here in the near future:
> >
> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>
> You just can’t help yourself can you, will?

What, responding to Rochester's bitter jeering?

> Your juvenile and self absorbed mindset is deplorable.

You seem confused, again, ME... you should tell yur boy Rchester to stop obsessing over me... as usual.

> And you wonder why the majority of others despise you.

And how do you suggest I respond to the obvious trolling, name-calling and personal attacks by Rochester?

I did the best thing, I snipped his ranting bullshit.

Your hypocrisy is obvious.

:)

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:32:31 PM3/23/21

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Silly me, I saw the thread at the top again, and

thought you two might have had something to

say about the poem again. When will I ever learn?

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:41:06 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:32:31 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:20:08 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:03:35 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 23 March 2021 at 17:25:08 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>
> > > > > yesterday I posted more poetry than the two dead-beats in a month
>
> > So what, this isn't a race, is it?
>
> > > > I do have poetry, thanks for asking.
> > > >
> > > > At present, all of my poetry is going on my Shadowville Mythos blog, and I'll be posting selections from there here in the near future:
> > > >
> > > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > You just can’t help yourself can you, will?
>
> > What, responding to Rochester's bitter jeering?
>
> > > Your juvenile and self absorbed mindset is deplorable.
>

> > You seem confused, again, ME... you should tell your boy Rochester to stop obsessing over me... as usual.

> >
> > And how do you suggest I respond to the obvious trolling, name-calling and personal attacks by Rochester?
> >
> > I did the best thing, I snipped his ranting bullshit.
> >
> > Your hypocrisy is obvious.
> >
> > :)
> Silly me, I saw the thread at the top again, and
> thought you two might have had something to
> say about the poem again. When will I ever learn?

Make that three, since my response is to Mr. Rochester's rant.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 6:54:39 PM3/23/21

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In any case, I should know better.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:26:23 PM3/23/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
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> The two dead-beats are responsible for this groups ugly face

You're projecting your own ugly, obsessive bitterness, Mr. Rochester, as always.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:29:22 PM3/23/21

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Little ole senile me?

The group is wise to you stupidity.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:33:50 PM3/23/21

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Well, Mr. Rochester isn't exactly one of your biggest fans, Corey.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:37:20 PM3/23/21

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Wow, you go guy!

Dockery, you're in your sixties, take off the diaper.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:42:11 PM3/23/21

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Aren’t you just projecting your own ugly, obsessive bitterness on Mr. Rochester?

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:46:42 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:37:20 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:33:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > At present, all of my poetry is going on my Shadowville Mythos blog, and I'll be posting selections from there here in the near future:

> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

> Dockery, you're in your sixties

You're a 74 year-old man who still hadn't outgrown his childish name-calling, Mr. Rochester.

:)

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:47:42 PM3/23/21

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Will, you're the one that drudged this up after everyone dropped it when they were reminded that they were setting Hieronymous' thread on fire-- obviously you didn't get it and insist upon fighting. You obsess about getting the last blow in, don't you?

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:49:36 PM3/23/21

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WILL, GET OFF THE THREAD, YOU GODDAMNED TROLL

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:52:54 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:49:36 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> WILL, GET OFF THE THREAD, YOU GODDAMNED TROLL

You're mistaken, Ash, Mr. Rochester trolled me.

Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:57:07 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:49:36 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:

> WILL, GET OFF THE THREAD, YOU GODDAMNED TROLL

Donkey fertilizes The Garden.

ME

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:58:47 PM3/23/21

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Shut the fuck up, will. You act like such a little crybaby.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 7:58:52 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:47:42 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Will, you're the one that drudged this up after everyone dropped it when they were reminded that they were setting Hieronymous' thread on fire-- obviously you didn't get it

I don't see that /anybody/ got it, Mr. Ash... certainly not Mr. Rochester.

> and insist upon fighting. You obsess about getting the last blow in, don't you?

Mr. Rochester made the opening post, but in your usual hypocrisy you ignored that, Mr. Ash:

Again, here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

HTH & HAND.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:04:17 PM3/23/21

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Not at all, just clearing up Mr. Ash's confusion.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:14:54 PM3/23/21

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Hey Willie, put your big boy pants on..realize you have a problem, which become the groups problem.

You're lost in flashbacks...

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:22:54 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:04:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

> Hey Willie, put your big boy pants on..realize you have a problem, which become the groups problem.
>
> You're lost in flashbacks...

Your obsession is your own problem, Rochester.

:)

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:23:08 PM3/23/21

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YOU'RE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED OUT.

OUT! OUT! DAMN YOU MISERABLE MISBEGOTTEN SPOT!!! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:24:56 PM3/23/21

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Mr. Ash, let it go, he's a grown up 4 year old.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:30:09 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:24:56 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:04:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > > Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

<snip>

> Mr. Ash, let it go, he's a grown up 4 year old.

That's pretty funny coming from you, with all your grade school name-calling and jeering, Mr. Rochester.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:36:16 PM3/23/21

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Willie, you've been bitch-slapped for twenty odd years and I'm sorry I will be taking your crown away.

Best run to your blog and blog away...unless you're in the mood for a toe to toe tonight....

ME

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:37:49 PM3/23/21

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Ash wasn’t confused about anything. Grow up.
You live on this group because you can’t cut it in the real world.
Don’t you ever get tired of people laughing at you here too?

W.Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:42:04 PM3/23/21

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ME wrote:
> On Tuesday, 23 March 2021 at 20:04:17 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > > You're mistaken, Ash, Mr. Rochester trolled me.
>> > >
>> > > Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

> Ash wasn’t confused

Either Mr. Ash is confused or a hypocrite, perhaps both.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:44:31 PM3/23/21

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You're lost in yourself, get it?

W.Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:56:03 PM3/23/21

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> You're lost in yourself, get it?

Yet you can't seem to get me out of your head, obsesso.

:)

Edward Rochester Esq.

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:59:57 PM3/23/21

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Do you really believe that? I'm mean, really?...You are just too easy a target, your thought process ended with the last tab...

Anyway, I see you are alone for now...don't worry your camper will be here soon to help your cause.

Do understand, you have an addiction which will not go away on its own..

Now you get some sleep.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 9:08:03 PM3/23/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:59:57 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:56:03 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:42:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >> > > You're mistaken, Ash, Mr. Rochester trolled me.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:
> > >>
> > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ
> > >> > Ash wasn’t confused
> > >>
> > >> Either Mr. Ash is confused or a hypocrite, perhaps both.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You're lost in yourself, get it?
> > Yet you can't seem to get me out of your head, obsesso.
> >
> > :)
> Do you really believe that? I'm mean, really?

You prove it every day.

Look at all the posts, even poems you dedicate to me every day.

:)

Zod

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Mar 23, 2021, 10:18:34 PM3/23/21

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Mr. Ash seems to be turning into what is known in Usenet terms as a slurper, Doc...

ME

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:01:28 PM3/23/21

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No zod. You’re confused.
You are what is known as a slurper.
Glad I could straighten that out for you.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:04:01 PM3/23/21

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Like I told Will, take it elsewhere. Until Will started trolling tonight, you didn't notice that your enemies stopped when I said something about fighting in the thread. Hardly sounds like slurping, could it actually be respect which you cannot get with your fighting? Since you won't listen to anyone other than GD, I can only depend on Hieronymous to potentially reaffirm what I'm trying to get across to you. But I don't think you would listen. If you need it explained better, go read the latest thread I started.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:16:57 PM3/23/21

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NOTICE TO ZOD: I WAS KICKING WILL OFF THE THREAD FOR RESTARTING A FIGHT THAT I HAD STOPPED.

W.Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:30:03 PM3/23/21

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Again, Ash, you're mistaken.

Mr. Rochester trolled me, you didn't stop him. As usual, you gave him a pass to post whatever trollish bullshit He wants about me.

Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

HTH & HAND.

ME

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:36:00 PM3/23/21

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That’s because nobody likes you, will.
And everyone likes Jim.

Michael Pendragon

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:42:24 PM3/23/21

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An excellent point -- and one Will should take to heart.

PING Will!

The obvious solution is for you to stop trolling the popular members, and start trying to make yourself more popular.

Will Dockery

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:45:06 PM3/23/21

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I'm here for the poetry, not a popularity contest.

:)

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 24, 2021, 12:03:32 AM3/24/21

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Then why are you fighting on a commentary thread. Hieronymous and I will pick up with commentary after you're done. And don't bullshit me about someone else starting it-- that was stopped-- ask everyone else, but you won't listen to anyone except for yourself.

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 12:11:01 AM3/24/21

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 12:03:32 AM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Then why are you fighting on a commentary thread

<misrepresentation snipped>

I responded to an attack made here on me by Mr. Rochester, here's the link to prove that:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

If you'd stop trying to defend Rochester when he's obviously in the wrong here, then this discussion can end.

All clear now, Ash?

:)

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 24, 2021, 12:11:03 AM3/24/21

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WILL TAKE NOTE: THIS IS WHERE I CALLED EVERYONE OUT FOR FIGHTING IN THIS THREAD

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 3:41:08 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
> *Cough, cough* I should had paid attention to the wildfire advisory: heavy debris of desiccated husks of undying arguments, acrid acrimonious air, stiff scathing winds and just one spark to make the thread go up in flames. My apology Hieronymous, although the spark was from Zod, I was merely an accessory to the crime.
> Your garden should be safe. But, like Eden's garden, there may be no place for it due to circumstance. Here, we're scathed and scorched.
>
> Your garden, my house...
>
> "Well, you're high on top of your mountain of woe
> Gotta come on up to the house
> Well, you know you should surrender, but you can't let it go
> You gotta come on up to the house, yeah."

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 4:57:06 PM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 4:34:20 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
> > Our house is a very, very, very fine house.
> *thumbs up* (hope you enjoyed the selection, a fav)
>
> And to add insult to injury, I come with my soapbox to this smouldering thread to expound. To wax with smart ass philosophy and wane with slaughtered poetry. To declare fleeting but most likely imaginary victory over a foe having not the slightest hint of a clue. And just like a bad sequel, the antagonist will come back unenlightened and undaunted. It could become a franchise: of for-fucking-ever flailing and flaying fools figuratively.

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 12:34:35 AM3/24/21

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 12:11:03 AM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
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> WILL TAKE NOTE: THIS IS WHERE I CALLED EVERYONE OUT

<snip for focus>

I see you mentioned Zod, but not Mr. Rochester, as expected at this point:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

Not only that, Mr. Rochester's name-calling and personal attacks apparently came /after/ you called "everyone" out.

:)

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 1:40:23 AM3/24/21

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On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
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> You sprinkle in some Jordy, and some gospel by an ex Russian patriot...add in the spaghetti logic of Dance up in Canada and you wind up with a very sour stew

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ

Another choice quote from Mr. Rochester, who you continue to defend, Ash.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 24, 2021, 2:48:38 AM3/24/21

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You are a moron-- and I'm a moron for trying to get it through your thick skull-- I had told everyone to stop the fighting here-- they did, Hieronymous and I were posting as if things were back to normal and you dredge things back up and started the fight again. When a fight is broken up, there's no getting a last shot in-- everyone stops period-- but not on the Usenet. That's why you are here, you can do the fuck as you please and no one can stop you. Well lots of luck in getting people not to speak negatively of you. I will be warning new members of you after this and you will prove my point for me to them.

Thank you for helping me build a good piece of evidence to show new members...

W.Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 3:04:05 AM3/24/21

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ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:40:23 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>> >
>> > You sprinkle in some Jordy, and some gospel by an ex Russian patriot...add in the spaghetti logic of Dance up in Canada and you wind up with a very sour stew
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ
>>
>> Another choice quote from Mr. Rochester, who you continue to defend, Ash.
>

> you dredge things back up and started the fight again

No, your fuckhead friend Mr. Rochester posted a few things about me that I read and responded to.

He's been doing this for years and I expect him to for the rest of his life.

Your friend "Edward Rochester" aka Jim Senetto is an obsessed, bitter fool... but dpnt take my word for it, here's a quote from George Dance that puts Senetto in a nutshell:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ig0yx5dMv4Q/m/MEY6f_yhBAAJ

"Because Jim Obsesso aka "Edward Rochester" is a spamtroll. That's what spamtrolls do: they post the same thing over and over into multiple threads (spamming) to disrupt whatever discussions are going on in them (trolling). Obsesso started spamtrolling the group in 2018, spamming a personal attack on Stephan Pickering that NastyGene had written dozens, possibly hundreds, of times. After he started spamming that shit into the threads I was on, I asked him to stop; and he just kept spamming the same shit. To get him to stop, I had to start counter-spamming the same shit back into his "poetry" threads (yes, he was pretending to write "poetry" in those days). That did make him stop. Of course he had a meltdown about my counter-spamming..." -George J. Dance

And... so it goes.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 4:42:25 AM3/24/21

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I see the thread got a lot of attention last night, but no one mentioned The Garden.

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 5:12:57 AM3/24/21

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:48:38 AM UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:40:23 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > >
> > > You sprinkle in some Jordy, and some gospel by an ex Russian patriot...add in the spaghetti logic of Dance up in Canada and you wind up with a very sour stew
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ
> >
> > Another choice quote from Mr. Rochester, who you continue to defend, Ash.
>

> I will be warning new members of you after this

I saw that a long time ago, Ash... you;re too cozy with Rochester to consider anything else.

:)

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 5:16:16 AM3/24/21

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The Garden of the poem is both a literal, physical place, as well as a symbolic ideal.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 5:18:39 AM3/24/21

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Are you too focused on Ash and Rochester to consider The Garden?

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 8:07:56 AM3/24/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:42:24 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:

PING Michael!

The obvious solution is clearly addressed in The Garden.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 8:18:28 AM3/24/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:04:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:58:47 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 23 March 2021 at 19:52:54 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > You're mistaken, Ash, Mr. Rochester trolled me.

> > > >
> > > > Here's the post, which I mostly snipped his name-calling personal attack out of:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/lTXPKEj4ZFw/m/-NR61xzBBgAJ
> > >

> > > Shut the fuck up, will. You act like such a little crybaby.
> > Not at all, just clearing up Mr. Ash's confusion.
> >
> > :)
> Hey Willie, put your big boy pants on..realize you have a problem, which become the groups problem.
>
> You're lost in flashbacks...

Hey there, Jimmy! FYI & FWIW, I soiled
my big boy pants in the garden yesterday.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 8:33:23 AM3/24/21

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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:36:00 PM UTC-4, ME wrote:

Everyone likes corn fritters.

W.Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 9:18:04 AM3/24/21

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I did, I confess.

I'm reading "The Garden" now...

I expected it to be an Easter poem about Jesus in the Garden, but so far I don't detect any of that imagery.

I remembered a poem of yours about building a fence to keep out deer, and see this isn't that poem.

I see raccoons and hogs and, apparently, a streaker, good, involving read, I'll probably rank this poem with your best.

More comments later, thumbs up, so far.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 9:35:55 AM3/24/21

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The biblical inference is well justified. It’s just a another
‘Naked Man in The Garden’ poem like Adam in Eden,
except this one is either metaphorically literal, or literally
metaphorical in every respect, depending on how you read it.

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 9:45:05 AM3/24/21

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Knowing you as well as I do, as I read the poem, I have the image of you working in your garden in your birthday suit, wearing a mask.

In properly Dr. Suess fashion, corn stalks obscure the objectionable anatomy.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 10:03:46 AM3/24/21

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Although I can certainly appreciate the imagery,
if you read the poem more closely, you'll see
the actual factual truth briefly noted in line four
as pertains to the stains on the boxers I bore.

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 11:19:07 AM3/24/21

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Reading the poem with my coffee, now.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 4:34:40 PM3/24/21

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I spread my used coffee grounds in The Garden.
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 6:29:32 PM3/24/21

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I don't have a garden but I always toss coffee grounds outside to mix with the soil.

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 6:47:52 PM3/24/21

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I left coffee grounds out of the poem.

Ash Wurthing

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Mar 24, 2021, 6:48:13 PM3/24/21

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My apologies Hieronymous, for my part. But we are scathed and scorched, the Garden is not for us but for dreamers. But is a nice dream, especially for one that just has a disillusionment...

Will Dockery

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Mar 24, 2021, 6:52:39 PM3/24/21

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:47:52 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote:
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> > > I spread my used coffee grounds in The Garden.
> > >
> > > https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm
>
> > I don't have a garden but I always toss coffee grounds outside to mix with the soil.
>
> I left coffee grounds out of the poem.

"If the coffee tasted as good as it smelled we'd never get any sleep." -Groucho Marx

Hieronymous Corey

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Mar 24, 2021, 6:55:40 PM3/24/21

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:48:13 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> My apologies Hieronymous, for my part. But we are scathed and scorched, the Garden is not for us but for dreamers. But is a nice dream, especially for one that just has a disillusionment...

No apologies necessary. Your part was completely insignificant. No worries.