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Ash Wurthing

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May 19, 2023, 9:34:36 PM5/19/23
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On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:47:28 PM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> You go on about Liberty, but never consider every one
> just yourself, no one else, you never had to bury some one else
> What good is Life without Liberty or Happiness?
> What good is Liberty and Happiness without Life?
> What value is some people's Liberties at the cost of
> other's Lives? * --
> Why deprive us of Life, Liberty and Happiness
> because we're not like what you want us to be?
>
> Those that live through prejudice, that rule through
> "supremacy",
> do a grave disservice to their Founder's legacy --
> Equality they refuse to see
> because we aren't what they want us to be.
>
> So many ways it is written and sung --
> but what's a word's worth, of another soul or even that
> of our own?
>
> By Ash
>
> *Sent to me for a possible collaboration but found I had nothing to add.
>
> Posted as written.

I can attest to this...
written as was thought up in a fevered dream of a nightmare of a migraine of a life long lost of its purpose
so it still needs work, but as the docs always try to reassure me, there's always time's hope for a fix to come along

Ash Wurthing

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May 20, 2023, 11:18:05 PM5/20/23
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It will eventually evolve like this did:

It's the twilight of what wise men scry
for they have given half their worldly sight
for enlightenment to shed some insight
on what the words on the wall decry
--'Monologue Mori, Chapter II' ~~Ash Wurthing

PERCIPIENCE
It's the twilight of which wise men scry
for they have given half of their worldly sight
for enlightenment to shed some insight
on what the words upon the wall decry

(revision to original)
PERCIPIENCE
It's the twilight of which wise men scry
for futility has dimmed their worldly sight
such a terrible price for enlightenment
to fruitlessly shed some insight
on what the writing on the wall decries
~~Ash Wurthing for AYoS May

For there's grave things weighing upon my mind, dragging me to my grave...

Never dare to empathize with a murdered corpse
There will be no recourse from that darkened course
No release from that revelation of remorse
Do not dare to stare at the rigor mask of torture
even when replaced with a visage of peaceful torpor
the empty stare will still mirror the final horror

Ash Wurthing

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May 31, 2023, 5:00:41 AM5/31/23
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Here lies the corps of William Prynne,
A Bencher late of Lincolns Inn,
Who restless ran through thick and thin.

This grand scripturient paper-spiller,
This endless, needless margin-filler,
Was strangly tost from post to pillar.
— Anthony Wood, Athenæ Oxonienses, 1691

Ash Wurthing

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May 31, 2023, 1:32:43 PM5/31/23
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Make that above, Ash's epitaph!
As it is above, so it is below-- that's how this bullshit flows...

O Lucifer, you knew! You knew that pride would drive the Creator's favored from "superior" to inferior.
O Satan, you exulted! Exulted in Man's hatred that corrupted to destroy all that was Holy.

You too knew and cried on the cross-
melancholy messiah for the lost.
You shall die a scapegoat savior.
For whom exactly, did you suffer?

You, your flock has forsaken,
for they believe they know better.
So plead, plead to your Heaven
that they know no better.
~Revelation to the beasts XIII:9

ME

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Jun 10, 2023, 9:21:12 PM6/10/23
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Excellent,Ash.
Thank you.

Ash Wurthing

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Jun 11, 2023, 1:14:35 AM6/11/23
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And my gratitude to you for your kind words, I am flattered that you read my work...

"And you may say I've given up the ghost
Once and for all admitted defeat
And laid out my hand for all to see
And winter mocks me though he
Does not need to call my name
He thinks my bones are brittle
And the grip of my resolve is tired
Sullen and weakened just the same"
--'Failures' Burden' ~~Primordial

Ash Wurthing

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Jul 14, 2023, 4:32:51 AM7/14/23
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Some fools were spewing about it being a wonder, as they had the means and whiles to ponder upon such simple concepts...
It's no wonder how I can write of unrevealed matters and because of derisive deriders of the Donkey social support club, that their meagre literary toyings, merely school grounds' juvenile heckling and henpecking, makes such professions so much more profound-- as they like to inanely bray...

written to HC:
I cannot see you, or them, or myself,
nor any of our beauty or ugliness.
But I am not completely lost-
for I can hear it in everyone's words-
that which reveals their true intents,
casts an unforgiving light upon their deeds.
I would say it is for the best-
not to see what we have become,
but I am still cursed to hear it.

11/7/2021:
I once was told to relax and enjoy-- hopefully the fool didn't mean to enjoy this shit show of his and his crew...
So I replied: I cannot relax. The clock is ticking, the days are passing me by and in their wake, darkness is closing in...

"When I consider how my light is spent
Ere half my days in this dark world and wide,
And that one talent which is death to hide
Lodg’d with me useless, though my soul more bent
To serve therewith my Maker, and present
My true account, lest he returning chide,
'Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?'
I fondly ask. But Patience, to prevent
That murmur, soon replies: 'God doth not need
Either man’s work or his own gifts: who best
Bear his mild yoke, they serve him best. His state
Is kingly; thousands at his bidding speed
And post o’er land and ocean without rest:
They also serve who only stand and wait.' "
~~ John Milton

** I'm still not convinced, I believe that in doing this, that I've just been left behind by the throng that chases the Phantom forevermore and I obviously lack the blind faith for the patience **

this year:
<excised, sent to AYoS 'Lifeblind'>

My foes think I don't see things here due to deliberate blindness, unlike them, thinking they will draw masses of readers with stale monotonous spam that buries variety. What's their excuse for their idiocy? It's definitely not due to anything deliberate that I don't see their success either, just their failure. So I will be content with the vindication of seeing their legacies wither and die ignominiously. Savor the sound of their despairing cries echoing in the dust of their demise. So hide your heads in those spent fallen sands, thinking that what you don't see will dispel that there's no consequence to the deeds of your careless hands- that your efforts are guiltless and so swell, denying that old dwelling fear that you cannot quell.


I know exactly what they fear
for that ego they hold so dear
I am like a virus
and they are powerless
they cannot help being impious
and cursed to the fate they create

I know what you fear
the silence that they don't want to hear
the stinging solitude of being ignored
I've been there before, a place so deplored
where dreams you cherish perish
where hope withers and expires
where lurking fears conspire
to drown deepest desires
Every waking day, nightmares reawaken

SO LISTEN! While I talk to a wall
an exercise in futility, I know
But I'm sure I'm not alone
so many do so, to hear their echoes

Ignorance is bliss to you idiots
invidious to inconvenient truths and oblivious
to the ignorance of desires insidious.
Nothing is remiss in your reality of "according to me"-
the World determined by your ego's decree,
not the missed new opportunities you refuse to see-
for your seas are only colored by your past glories

I could advise, but never mind- there's no enlightening self absorbed minds Hell bent upon their own designs that just feeds a polar opposite animosity, makes a mockery of good will reciprocity. I shall not with futility, advise- it would be false wisdom, you would surmise. Unrepentant ignorance I would only chastise and would do naught to halt your demise.

I could have put it properly, poetically even, but this uncouth way you may understand it better. You see, I'm all for the brawl, I just love the writing that's inspired when the furor is flying. When things are too entrenched, too self-vested, the inflamed animosity now too deeply ingrained for anyone not to rub each other wrong...

A seemingly disturbed surface only hints at what seethes hidden below

'Til the night's still cold unrest
'Til the feast of blood and chaos
To the grave, as this plague won't wash away
If there's a price we had to pay
There's no controlling, there's no one else left to blame
If there is a vice with no constraints
Mankind corroding, there's no one else left to hate
--'Blood and Chaos' ~~Paradise Lost

"Ancient fire, fill my raging heart
As I charge into the endless dark
Steel my will against what hell may come
I will not turn back, I know what must be done
Dying fire filled my anguished heart
As I fought against the endless dark
I broke my will against the hell that came
Relieve me of my charge, carry on the flame"
--'Abysswalker' ~~Visigoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fmkMa9K0v4

Ash Wurthing

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Aug 3, 2023, 9:38:46 PM8/3/23
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Research has shown that METAL MUSIC lessens negative emotions by lowering cortisol levels to decrease stress. It also says that Metal listeners think more logically and in more complex terms than those that don't listen to metal. Listening to metal helps being more focused. Metal doesn't desensitize to violence but helps to safely process anger.

Michael Pendragon

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Aug 4, 2023, 9:24:03 AM8/4/23
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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:38:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Research has shown that METAL MUSIC lessens negative emotions by lowering cortisol levels to decrease stress. It also says that Metal listeners think more logically and in more complex terms than those that don't listen to metal. Listening to metal helps being more focused. Metal doesn't desensitize to violence but helps to safely process anger.
>

Interesting. I have always felt that Metal causes stress -- at least that's the response I have to it. The sound made by the electric guitars strikes me as the musical equivalent of metal being twisted and crushed -- as in a head-on collision; and evokes the sort of feelings one might experience if they were being crushed to death in a head-on collision in slow motion. Of course, this may just be based on my personal experience of having been crushed nearly to death in a head-on collision. My conscious mind has repressed any memories related to the crash, but I'm sure that the memory of it still exists deep within my subconscious, and the Metal music may be bringing some of the feelings associated with those repressed memories to the fore.

That said, I do like to blast my favorite records as loud as possible, and sing (in an equally loud voice) and jump around to them, which *does* serve in part as a means of blowing off steam and decreasing stress. So I can empathize with the experience -- just not the musical genre that produces it.

"Bowie knife! Bowie knife!
Long, glittering steel.
If my gun don't take your evil life
You can bet my Bowie knife will!"
-- Frankie Laine
"Hell Bent for Leather," w/m Mike Oatman and Edward Truman

Ash Wurthing

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Aug 4, 2023, 10:17:18 PM8/4/23
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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:24:03 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:38:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > Research has shown that METAL MUSIC lessens negative emotions by lowering cortisol levels to decrease stress. It also says that Metal listeners think more logically and in more complex terms than those that don't listen to metal. Listening to metal helps being more focused. Metal doesn't desensitize to violence but helps to safely process anger.
> >
> Interesting. I have always felt that Metal causes stress -- at least that's the response I have to it. The sound made by the electric guitars strikes me as the musical equivalent of metal being twisted and crushed -- as in a head-on collision; and evokes the sort of feelings one might experience if they were being crushed to death in a head-on collision in slow motion. Of course, this may just be based on my personal experience of having been crushed nearly to death in a head-on collision. My conscious mind has repressed any memories related to the crash, but I'm sure that the memory of it still exists deep within my subconscious, and the Metal music may be bringing some of the feelings associated with those repressed memories to the fore.

All music can relieve stress and evoke emotions-- that's why it's so widespread with so many variations for all the minds of the different listeners. I can understand metal resounding badly with people-- it's not a pleasing sound but an aggressive one that resonates naturally with me. Most of my metal is for listening pleasure, when I need to vent, KING 810 satisfies what seethes inside of me. I guess I got numb to the trauma triggers, though they still set my mood and thoughts in slow, darkly spiraling descent... Since it's so repressed, sleep is when I have to worry-- like anyone, I will suddenly wake from shock in dreams, like being shot; but unlike them, I wake up with actual pain, like I just took a sledge hammer to the ribs. The realism is amazing.

> That said, I do like to blast my favorite records as loud as possible, and sing (in an equally loud voice) and jump around to them, which *does* serve in part as a means of blowing off steam and decreasing stress. So I can empathize with the experience -- just not the musical genre that produces it.
> "Bowie knife! Bowie knife!
> Long, glittering steel.
> If my gun don't take your evil life
> You can bet my Bowie knife will!"
> -- Frankie Laine
> "Hell Bent for Leather," w/m Mike Oatman and Edward Truman

I had to look, but was greatly disappointed that no metal bands covered that song 'cause it's perfect for Metal--
then I fell down the rabbit hole of making and using Bowie knifes on Youtube...

Ash Wurthing

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Sep 29, 2023, 1:25:00 PM9/29/23
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heh heh, a sneak peek at the COLLECTED WORKS OF NANCYGENE!!!
(this just has up to mid '22, gotta find the newer version of the AYoS digital collection)
(details for each yearly project and book are in collapsible sections as shown by the text of the [ SHOW ] [ HIDE ] buttons which reveal details as desired)

NancyGene
Bio: Active in Sunday Sampler & AYoS since 2017.

Publications: "A Year of Sundays: The Year's Best Poetry from AAPC", 2020 Edition, 2021 Edition, 2022 Edition
other publications can be listed here

Projects: Sunday Sampler 2017-19 (online, AAPC), "Sunday Sampler (online, AAPC) 2020; A Year of Sundays (online, AAPC & Internet) 2021, 2022, 2023

Number of poems written for Sunday Sampler 2017-2019: 3
Number of poems written for Sunday Sampler 2020: 99
Number of poems printed in "A Year of Sundays: The Year's Best Poetry" 2020: 10
Number of poems written for A Year of Sundays 2021: 88
Number of poems printed in "A Year of Sundays: The Year's Best Poetry" 2021:
Number of poems written for A Year of Sundays 2022: 30
Number of poems printed in "A Year of Sundays: The Year's Best Poetry" 2022:
Number of poems written for A Year of Sundays 2023:

SUNDAY SAMPLER 2017-19 ::: 3 poems [ SHOW ]

SUNDAY SAMPLER 2020 ::: 99 poems [ HIDE ]
55 (of 55) Weeks featured in:
11/24/2019 (1) 12/1/2019 (1) 12/8/2019 (1) 12/15/2019 (1) 12/22/2019 (1) 12/29/2019 (1) 1/5/2020 (2) 1/12/2020 (1) 1/19/2020 (1) 1/26/2020 (2) 2/2/2020 (2) 2/16/2020 (2) 2/23/2020 (2) 3/1/2020 (1) 3/8/2020 (1) 3/15/2020 (1) 3/22/2020 (2) 3/29/2020 (2) 4/5/2020 (2) 4/12/2020 (2) 4/19/2020 (2) 4/26/2020 (1) 5/3/2020 (1) 5/10/2020 (2) 5/17/2020 (2) 5/24/2020 (2) 5/31/2020 (2) 6/7/2020 (2) 6/14/2020 (2) 6/21/2020 (2) 6/28/2020 (2) 7/5/2020 (2) 7/12/2020 (2) 7/19/2020 (2) 7/26/2020 (2) 8/2/2020 (2) 8/9/2020 (2) 8/16/2020 (2) 8/23/2020 (2) 8/30/2020 (2) 9/6/2020 (2) 9/13/2020 (2) 9/20/2020 (2) 9/27/2020 (2) 10/4/2020 (2) 10/11/2020 (2) 10/18/2020 (2) 10/25/2020 (2) 10/31/2020 (4) 11/8/2020 (2) 11/15/2020 (2) 11/22/2020 (2) 11/29/2020 (2) 12/6/2020 (2) 12/13/2020 (2)
55 (of 55) Topics covered:
A Great Comparison (1) Adjustment (2) Age (2) Boo (4) Common Sense (2) Confidence (2) Contribution (1) Criminal (2) Dark Poetry (2) Deflect (2) Dormancy (2) Downfall of Mankind (2) Effort (or) Efforts (2) Epiphany (2) Fascination (1) Flowers (1) Foreknowledge (2) Grandparents (1) Gratitude (2) He (or) She (2) Hindsight (2) Home (1) Interlude (1) Isolation (2) Key (or) Keys (2) Mask (2) Mechanism (1) Music (2) Perception (2) Platitude (2) Poets (2) Presents (2) Questions (2) Redundancy (2) Renascence (2) Rocks (or) Stones (1) Sex (2) Shallow (2) Shot (2) Shower (or) Showers (2) Stars (1) Subterfuge (1) Summit (2) Sunlight (2) Talking Animals (2) Taxes (2) The End of the World (2) Time (1) Travel (1) Vegetables (2) Water (2) What It Means When Summer Ends (2) Winter Solstice (2) Work of Art (2) Youth (2)
6 Topics submitted: Confidence (1/26/20) Grandparents (12/29/19) Presents (12/06/20) Shower (or) Showers (4/05/20) Shallow (6/07/20) Shot (8/09/20)

Poems by week: | | drop down menu selection | |
Poems by topic: | | drop down menu selection | |

YEAR'S BEST 2020 ::: 10 poems [ HIDE ]
TITLE : page
Certainty ~A Double Acrostic : page 10
Far Away Places with Strange Sounding Names : page 28
I Remember You : page 41
Looking Back : page 12
Moving Day : page 19
Ode to She : page 50-51
Rhymes of the Passionate : page 24-25
So Many Stars : page 51
The Blackest of Nights : page 35
Unchained Malady : page 42

A YEAR OF SUNDAYS 2021 ::: 88 poems [ SHOW ]

YEAR'S BEST 2021 ::: poems [ SHOW ]

A YEAR OF SUNDAYS 2022 ::: poems [ SHOW ]

YEAR'S BEST 2022 ::: poems [ SHOW ]

A YEAR OF SUNDAYS 2023 ::: poems [ SHOW ]

NancyGene

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Sep 29, 2023, 1:31:08 PM9/29/23
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Impressive! NancyGene is semi-prolific.

Ash Wurthing

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Sep 29, 2023, 1:51:13 PM9/29/23
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Lo7 It will look even better when it's updated... that page uses a template that can automatically generated that for any poet in the AYoS digital collection.

My apologies-- been distracted with working on my digital collection-- all the AYoS, impromptu streams, tGG collabs- all with the AFWT and it's graphical interface and animations...

NancyGene

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Sep 29, 2023, 2:07:52 PM9/29/23
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Will you be including our collaboration with E.A. Poe and Cujo DeSockpuppet--"The Fall of the House of Douchebag?"
>
> My apologies-- been distracted with working on my digital collection-- all the AYoS, impromptu streams, tGG collabs- all with the AFWT and it's graphical interface and animations...

What are tGG and AFWT?

Ash Wurthing

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Sep 29, 2023, 3:02:15 PM9/29/23
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tGG is the project name for our collabs-- in a few AYoS threads you may have seen submissions marked as gallimaufry mix - a tGG collab

A Fate Wrought Testament is my collected works (digital "book' edition and deep web)-- some of my submissions and Impromptu pieces and streams bears one of it's books reference. It has surfaced for the full moon and will submerge back into the deep web with the new moon.

a list of collabs that made it into AYOS threads:
*An Ode To The Online Kerfuffle ::: Jan '22 (w/ NancyGene & Ecthrois Grimm)
Requiem: Threefold :: 8.21 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm)
The Clamor AYoS :: 10.21 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm) AFWT XVII:2
Avowed :: 11.21 (w/ ecthroisgrimm)
Beseeched :: 3.22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Ecthrois Grimm, Edward Rochester, Esq.)
Church AYoS :: 3.22 (stanzas 1, 2: This Will Destroy You 3.22) (combines The Last Page - Ecthrois Grimm 8.21 w/ Accursed, this our Church - AW 10.21)
Church tGG [not AYoS] :: 3.22 (Last Page EG 8.21 Accursed AW 10.21 + Edward Rochester, Esq. *tGG* contribution)
Hallowed :: 4.22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Edward Rochester, Esq.) AFWT XXI:1
Legacy of Would-be Neros :: 4.22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Edward Rochester Esq.)
untitled 4.22 (Heaven crashing) :: 4.22 {gallimaufry mix} tGG collab w/ Edward Rochester, Esq.) (incl: Who rules AFWT XVII:7)
Sinners' Epitaph AYoS :: 6.22 (w/Ecthrois Grimm)
The Beams We Wield :: 6.22 (tGG collab w/ Ecthrois Grimm)
Trials of Denial :: 6.22 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm)
Modern Madmen :: 6.23 (w/ Edward Rochester Esq.)
Words' Worth tGG mix :: 6.23 (w/ Last Dance, J D Senetto & Ecthrois Grimm)
Vessels :: 8.23 parts 1, 2 (part 1 w/ Ecthrois Grimm & Edward Rochester Esq.)

Ash Wurthing

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Oct 1, 2023, 4:36:40 PM10/1/23
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AYoS Ashes:
1) Winter's Walk ::: Feb/Mar '21 (org. an informal piece, encouraged by ERE, MMP to be made into something more)
2) Seven of Secrets ::: Apr '21 (OR&S Vol III)
3) A Title that Cannot be Told ::: Apr '21 (OR&S Vol III)
4) Requiem: Threefold ::: Aug '21 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm) AFWT XV:12:26
5) We The Accursed, This Our Church ::: Oct '21 AFWT XV:8:11
6) The Drama You've Been Craving ::: Oct '21 (org The Humanity) AFWT XV:3
7) The Clamor ::: Oct '21 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm) AFWT XV:2
8) Verse 15 (lament for humility) ::: Oct '21 AFWT XV:3:15
9) Reality (AYoS mix) ::: Oct '21 AFWT XV:4:ii
10) Avowed ::: Nov '21 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm) (OR&S Vol III)
11) Southend Deadend ::: Nov '21
12) When the Lights Go Out ::: Dec '21
13) An Ode To The Online Kerfuffle ::: Jan '22 (w/ NancyGene & Ecthrois Grimm)
14) Of The Broken ::: Jan '22
15) Untitled3.22 (science) ::: Mar '22
16) Beseeched ::: Mar '22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Ecthrois Grimm, Edward Rochester, Esq.) (incl: untitled3.22 (Words v. Swords))
17) Coffin Ship ::: Mar '22
18) This Will Destroy You ::: Mar '22 (w/ Ecthrois Grimm) (combines We the Accursed & The Last Page) AFWT XV:8:11
19) untitled4.22 (Heaven crashing) ::: Apr '22 (org 3.22) ({gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab) w/ Edward Rochester, Esq.) (incl: Who rules AFWT XV:7:11)
20) Legacy Of Would-be Neros ::: Apr '22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Edward Rochester Esq.) AFWT XV:10:32
21) Untitled4.22 2 (Hallowed) ::: Apr '22 {gallimaufry mix} (tGG collab w/ Edward Rochester Esq.) (org Hallowed AFWT XXI:1)
22) Hammer Wrought ::: Apr '22
23) Polar Torn ::: Apr '22
24) Destroyers of Worlds ::: May '22 (org 4.22) (inspired by the songs "Destroyer of Worlds" by Quorthon & "Dark Horse on the Wind" by Liam Weldon)
25) In Spite of Spite ::: May '22
26) untitled (sane solace) ::: May '22
27) An Opinion ::: May '22
28) A Toast to the Roast ::: May '22
29) A Fate Wrought Testament (Book DCCC) :: Jun '22
30) A Guardian's Prayer :: Jun '22 (vers 2 (org 5.22))
31) untitled6.22 (Human Condition/Attention!) :: Jun '22 (inspired by Edward Rochester, Esq's "Cardboard Muscle")
32) Sinners' Epitaph (AYoS version) :: Jun '22 (w/Ecthrois Grimm) AFWT XV:15:800
33) The Beams We Wield :: Jun '22 (tGG collab w/ Ecthrois Grimm)
34) Trials of Denial :: Jun '22 (org 5.22) (w/ Ecthrois Grimm)
35) We're the People :: Jun' 22
36) untitled7.22 (acceptance) :: Jul '22
37) All for the Money :: Jul '22
38) Letter of Sufferance :: Jul '22
39) Revolution, Evolution, Love Cento :: Jul '22 (cento, first line by Tricky, "Revolution, Evolution, Love")
40) "American Man" (snark mix) :: Aug '22
41) El Vengador Fantasma :: Aug '22 (Spanish movie title for the Ghost Rider)
-) stream for AYoS :: Aug '22 (INTERMISSION: An Unabashed Poetic Manifesto in scattered parts, part AYoS8.22 - AAPC stream (not a formal submission))
42) untitled8.22 (beauty) :: Aug '22
43) untitled8.22 2 (no man is a mere slander) :: Aug '22
44) Graven Legacy :: Sept '22
45) Legacy :: Sept '22
46) Two Minutes to Midnight :: Sept '22
47) untitled10.22 (evil grins) :: Oct '22
48) Don't Go So Boldly :: Nov '22
49) untitled 11.22 (piss each other off endlessly) :: Nov '22
50) In the Wastes of Autumn Waning :: Nov '22 (+ untitled11.22 2 +rev2 +Not A Haiku, Just A Dream)
51) untitled12.22 (daughter of Liberty) :: Dec '22 (inspired by 'Empires Fall,' a song by Primordial)
52) untitled12.22 2 (People2) :: Dec '22 (companion piece to "We're the People" (untitled in Jun '22))
53) untitled12.22 3 (another year pass'd) :: Dec '22
54) The Silver Shield's Elegy :: Dec '22 (dedicated to the four of Parkland, 2009)
55) untitled4.23 :: Apr '23 (inspired by words "line to enchant" by J D Senetto) (dedicated to the AYoS Facebook poets)
56, 57) Percipience :: May '23 +untitled 5.23 +To: that Abyss
58) Leavetaking 1, 2, 3 :: Jun '23 (untitled 6.23 1, 2, Leavetaking)
59) Modern Madmen :: Jun '23 (w/ Edward Rochester Esq.)
60) Words' Worth (intro, part 1 of tGG mix) :: Jun '23 (w/ Last Dance, J D Senetto & Ecthrois Grimm)
61) Brazen Autolatry :: Jul '23
62) Lifeblind :: Jul '23
63) Vessels :: Aug '23 (parts 1,2; part1 w/ Ecthrois Grimm & Edward Rochester Esq.)
64) Death's-head Epitaph :: Sept '23

Ash Wurthing

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Oct 6, 2023, 8:00:25 PM10/6/23
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(something that Ash has been working on -- and the whippin' fools bray that I do nothin' and nothin' compared to them, what little they know is much more satisfyin' than showin' them my work)
(this is just the summary part, missing the actual songs list portion)

HEAVY METAL AND IT'S INCLUSION OF FORMAL POETRY
(poetry modern and classical)

Poets & works:

• Anglo-Saxon poem "The Battle of Brunanburh" (10th century AD)
• ancient Irish oral poem "The Recovery of the Tain" (first recorded in writing 630-670 AD)
• Guillam Apollinaire - "La channson du mal aime", Song of the Poorly Loved, an oratorio composed by Léo Ferré in 1952–53 on Guillaume Apollinaire's eponymous poem. track 3 on Alcools)
• Charles Baudelaire - "Au Lecteur" (To the/my Reader) (1857)
• Charles Baudelaire, "Les litanies de Satan" (The Litanies of Satan) (published 1857)
• Charles Baudelaire - "Tristesses De La Lune" (Sorrows Of The Moon) (1857)
• David Park Barnitz - "Requiem/Sombre Sonnet" (1901)
• Lawrence Binyon - "For The Fallen" (1914)
• William Blake "Prologue, intended for a Dramatic Piece of King Edward the Fourth" (1783)
• Lord Byron - "Manfred. A Dramatic Poem." (1817)
• Robert W. Chambers, "Cassilda's Song" (from "The King in Yellow") (1895)
• G K Chesterton - "O God of Earth and Altar" (hymn, 1906)
• Samuel Taylor Coleridge "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" (1798)
• T S Eliot - "Hollow Men" (1925)
• Amergin Glangel (ancient Irish pagan poet) - "The Song of Amergin"
• Emma Lazarus - "The New Colossus" (1883)
• Audie Murphy - "The Crosses Grow on Anzio" (1948)
• Patrick Pearse "The Rebel" (1916)
• Edgar Alan Poe - "The Raven" (1845)
• Percy Bysshe Shelley - "The Mask of Anarchy" (1819)
• William Butler Yeats "The Hosting of the Sidhe" (1893)

Michael Pendragon

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Ash... Ash... Ash... you've committed a cardinal sin: you've misspelled the name of my God.


Michael Pendragon
"I know an obsessed teollisuuden Wien I see one."
-- Will Dockery, dry drunk.

Ash Wurthing

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>.< I left out a "L"
Looks like writing Annabelle Lee a 100 times on the chalk board for me!
Thank you for pointing it out-- corrected it for the online version.

rachel

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He forgot Beowulf!!! EVERYBODY likes Beowulf, iykwim!!!

Ash Wurthing

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like this?
CORVUS CORAX ERA METALLUM - Béowulf is mín nama (Official Video & Making Of)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-qyU4zkUg
INCLUDES A PUPPET SHOW!!

These guys are German and unlike Waters, they don't need to wear Nazi style uniforms-- THEY HAVE STYLE-- THEY WEAR KILTS!!!

I'll have to check lyrics, I only count songs that directly uses verses or closely paraphrases poetry.

I never did get 'round to sending Karen any links to their songs, they're considered Medieval Metal...

Ash Wurthing

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Currently chasing leads...
A song, The Black Hundred, bears the name of Vizma Belgenvica of Lativa in an album note
and I'm trying to figure if it's in reference to the "boots of Cossack Black Hundreds," from the poet's work.
Interesting sleuth work like figuring out the seemingly quoted verse from The Mouth of Judas which was a paraphrasing of something from Apollinaire, which only had few English translations online.

Michael Pendragon

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My complete title is Michael Malefica Grendelwulf Pendragon LeFay, which, as you can see contains an homage to Beowulf (as well as a comment on the duality of man).

However, I rarely use my complete title these days, as I've been told that it sounds mildly pretentious.


Michael Pendragon
"No, there's no time limit, no explanation date, on Usenet threads."
-- Will Dockery on why he refuses to explain any of his unintelligible sentences

Ash Wurthing

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Grendel? Why am I not surprised?
Mildly you say? Surely you jest! :P
Don't worry, to most that would just look like word soup. I need to find myself a title like that, where do I find one?

Michael Pendragon

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You don't so much find one, as accumulate one over time.


Michael Pendragon
MMP: Have you been eating those marijuana brownies again?
WILL DOCKERY: No, but I will admit the one I ate was pretty good.

Ash Wurthing

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Damned. I was thinking of Epicus Doomicus Metallicus for my petition to join the online group, <Ominous Latin Name>

NancyGene

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Ashimus Deathimus Worthius

Ash Wurthing

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Actually figured out the mystery of the piece of that Latvian poet-- found the poem in a school's curriculum over there and it's definitely a good find. Now I have the 50 poems found in Heavy Metal...

HEAVY METAL AND IT'S INCLUSION OF FORMAL POETRY
(songs that either used at least two verses of, or was closely based off of modern and classical poetry)

List 1a: All POETS whose poetry was used:

1. unknown "The Battle of Brunanburh"
2. unknown "The Recovery of the Tain"
3. Dante Alighier
4. Guillam Apollinaire
5. Charles Baudelaire - 3 poems, 7 bands
6. David Park Barnitz - 2 poems - 1 band
7. Vizma Belgenvica
8. Lawrence Binyon
9. William Blake - 2 poems, 1 book/collection of poems - 3 bands
10. Lord Byron
11. Robert W. Chambers
12. G. K. Chesterton
13. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
14. T. S. Eliot
15. Robert Frost
16. Amergin Glangel (ancient Irish pagan poet)
17. Thomas Hardy
18. Heinrich Heine
19. Robert Herrick
20. Homer
21. Rudyard Kipling
22. Emma Lazarus
23. H. P. Lovecraft
24. John Milton
25. Audie Murphy
26. Patrick Pearse
27. Edgar Allan Poe - 9 poems - 5 bands
28. Christina Rossetti
29. Percy Bysshe Shelley
30. Taras Shevchenko
31. Virgil
32. Walt Whitman
33. William Wordsworth
34. William Butler Yeats - 1 poem - 3 bands

Noteworthy mention, a poet working with Metal musicians: William S Burroughs (1993)

Ancient: 5 poets Classical: poets Romantic: poets Modern: 7 poets

Ash Wurthing

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I hadn't forgotten the actual poems list, but this I made into much more than a mere list.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:
1. Summary of poetry used
List 1a: All poets whose poetry was used
List 1b: All poems, listed by poet
List 1c: All poems, listed by title
List 1d: Poems having verses used
List 1e: Poems, that had songs/albums based closely off of them
2. Tops Lists:
2a. The seven Metal poetry epics
2b. The four best poem recitals done by Metal bands
3. Bands and their songs using or based off of poems
List 3a: Summary list of bands
List 3b: Summary list of songs
List 3c: Detailed list by poet/poem
List 3d: Detailed list by band

NancyGene

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On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 11:00:54 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Actually figured out the mystery of the piece of that Latvian poet-- found the poem in a school's curriculum over there and it's definitely a good find. Now I have the 50 poems found in Heavy Metal...

How could you forget a Latvian poet??
You left the "i" off of the end of Dante's last name. Minor error.
>
> Noteworthy mention, a poet working with Metal musicians: William S Burroughs (1993)
>
> Ancient: 5 poets Classical: poets Romantic: poets Modern: 7 poets

We like Amergin's poems. "Who can tell the ages of the moon?" "If not I."


Ash Wurthing

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List 1b: All POEMS used or based off of, listed by poet:

1. Anglo-Saxon poem "The Battle of Brunanburh" (10th century AD)
2. ancient Irish oral poem "The Recovery of the Tain" (first recorded in writing 630-670 AD)
3. Dante Alighieri - "Inferno" (Divine Comedy) 1321
4. Guillam Apollinaire - "La channson du mal aime" (Song of the Poorly Loved), Alcools (1913)
5. Charles Baudelaire - "Au Lecteur" (To the/my Reader) (1857)
6. Charles Baudelaire - "Les litanies de Satan" (The Litanies of Satan) (published 1857)
7. Charles Baudelaire - "Tristesses De La Lune" (Sorrows Of The Moon) (1857)
8. David Park Barnitz - "Requiem" (The Book of Jade) (1901)
9. David Park Barnitz - "Sombre Sonnet" (The Book of Jade) (1901)
10. Vizma Belgenvica - "The Notations of Henricus de Lettis in the Margins of the Livonian Chronicle" (1968)
11. Lawrence Binyon - "For The Fallen" (1914)
12. William Blake - "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" (1793)
13. William Blake - "Prologue, intended for a Dramatic Piece of King Edward the Fourth" (1783)
14. William Blake - "The Tyger" (Songs of Experience) (1794)
15. Lord Byron - "Manfred. A Dramatic Poem." (1817)
16. Robert W. Chambers - "Cassilda's Song" (from "The King in Yellow" Act 1, Scene 2) (1895)
17. G. K. Chesterton - "O God of Earth and Altar" (hymn, 1906)
18. Samuel Taylor Coleridge - "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" (1798)
19. T. S. Eliot - "Hollow Men" (1925)
20. Robert Frost - "The Road Not Taken" (1915)
21. Amergin Glangel (ancient Irish pagan poet) - "The Song of Amergin"
22. Thomas Hardy - "In Tenebris" (1895)
23. Thomas Hardy - "The Dead Man Walking" (1890)
24. Thomas Hardy - "To Life" (1916)
25. Heinrich Heine - (unknown title) (date?)
26. Robert Herrick - "The Hag" (1674)
27. Homer - "The Iliad" (7th century BC)
28. Homer - "The Odyssey" (7th century BC)
29. Rudyard Kipling "A Song to Mithras" (1906)
30. Emma Lazarus - "The New Colossus" (1883)
31. H. P. Lovecraft - "The Cats" (1925)
32. John Milton - "Paradise Lost" (1667)
33. Audie Murphy - "The Crosses Grow on Anzio" (1948)
34. Patrick Pearse - "The Rebel" (1916)
35. Edgar Allan Poe - "A Dream Within a Dream" (1849)
36. Edgar Allan Poe - "Annabel Lee" (1849)
37. Edgar Allan Poe - "Lenore" (1843)
38. Edgar Allan Poe - "Spirits of the Dead" (1828)
39. Edgar Allan Poe - "The Conqueror Worm" (1843)
40. Edgar Allan Poe - "The Haunted Palace" (1839)
41. Edgar Allan Poe - "The Raven" (1845)
42. Edgar Allan Poe - "The Sleeper" (1843)
43. Edgar Allan Poe - "Valley of Unrest" (1831)
44. Christina Rossetti - "Song (When I am dead, my dearest)" (1848)
45. Percy Bysshe Shelley - "The Mask of Anarchy" (1819)
46. Taras Shevchenko - "Haidamaky" (1841)
47. Virgil - "Aeneid" (19 BC)
48. Walt Whitman - "Song Of Myself" (1855)
49. William Wordsworth - "A Slumber Did My Spirit Seal" (1799)
50. William Butler Yeats - "The Hosting of the Sidhe" (1893)

List 1c: All poems, listed by title

1. (unknown title) (date?), Heinrich Heine
2. "A Dream Within a Dream" (1849), Edgar Allan Poe
3. "Aeneid" (19 BC), Virgil
4. "Annabel Lee" (1849), Edgar Allan Poe
5. "A Slumber Did My Spirit Seal" (1799), William Wordsworth
6. "A Song to Mithras" (1906), Rudyard Kipling
7. "Au Lecteur" (To the/my Reader) (1857), Charles Baudelaire
8. "Cassilda's Song" (from "The King in Yellow" Act 1, Scene 2) (1895), Robert W. Chambers
9. "For The Fallen" (1914), Lawrence Binyon
10. "Haidamaky" (1841), Taras Shevchenko
11. "Hollow Men" (1925), T. S. Eliot
12. "Inferno" (Divine Comedy) 1321, Dante Alighieri
13. "In Tenebris" (1895), Thomas Hardy
14. "La channson du mal aime" (Song of the Poorly Loved), Alcools (1913), Guillam Apollinaire
15. "Lenore" (1843), Edgar Allan Poe
16. "Les litanies de Satan" (The Litanies of Satan) (published 1857), Charles Baudelaire
17. "Manfred. A Dramatic Poem." (1817), Lord Byron
18. "O God of Earth and Altar" (hymn, 1906), G. K. Chesterton
19. "Paradise Lost" (1667), John Milton
20. "Prologue, intended for a Dramatic Piece of King Edward the Fourth" (1783), William Blake
21. "Requiem" (The Book of Jade) (1901), David Park Barnitz
22. "Sombre Sonnet" (The Book of Jade) (1901), David Park Barnitz
23. "Song Of Myself" (1855), Walt Whitman
24. "Song (When I am dead, my dearest)" (1848), Christina Rossetti
25. "Spirits of the Dead" (1828), Edgar Allan Poe
26. "The Battle of Brunanburh" (10th century AD), Anglo-Saxon poem
27. "The Cats" (1925), H. P. Lovecraft
28. "The Conqueror Worm" (1843), Edgar Allan Poe
29. "The Crosses Grow on Anzio" (1948), Audie Murphy
30. "The Dead Man Walking" (1890), Thomas Hardy
31. "The Hag" (1674), Robert Herrick
32. "The Haunted Palace" (1839), Edgar Allan Poe
33. "The Hosting of the Sidhe" (1893), William Butler Yeats
34. "The Iliad" (7th century BC), Homer
35. "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" (1793), William Blake
36. "The Mask of Anarchy" (1819), Percy Bysshe Shelley
37. "The New Colossus" (1883), Emma Lazarus
38. "The Notations of Henricus de Lettis in the Margins of the Livonian Chronicle" (1968) Vizma Belgenvica
39. "The Odyssey" (7th century BC), Homer
40. "The Raven" (1845), Edgar Allan Poe
41. "The Rebel" (1916), Patrick Pearse
42. "The Recovery of the Tain" (first recorded in writing 630-670 AD), ancient Irish oral poem
43. "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" (1798), Samuel Taylor Coleridge
44. "The Road Not Taken" (1915), Robert Frost
45. "The Sleeper" (1843), Edgar Allan Poe
46. "The Song of Amergin", Amergin Glangel, (ancient Irish pagan poet)
47. "The Tyger" (Songs of Experience) (1794), William Blake
48. "To Life" (1916), Thomas Hardy
49. "Tristesses De La Lune" (Sorrows Of The Moon) (1857), Charles Baudelaire
50. "Valley of Unrest" (1831), Edgar Allan Poe

Ancient: poems Classical: poems Romantic: poems Modern: poems

Ash Wurthing

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Thank you very much, if you see any other errors let me know. It will be greatly appreciated.

> >
> > Noteworthy mention, a poet working with Metal musicians: William S Burroughs (1993)
> >
> > Ancient: 5 poets Classical: poets Romantic: poets Modern: 7 poets
> We like Amergin's poems. "Who can tell the ages of the moon?" "If not I."

I'm putting a treat up for you then, you know where-- two excellent songs done by Erin's sons, based VERY closely on the poem-- they did the poem GREAT justice IMO.

NancyGene

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On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 11:56:27 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 7:49:26 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 11:00:54 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > Actually figured out the mystery of the piece of that Latvian poet-- found the poem in a school's curriculum over there and it's definitely a good find. Now I have the 50 poems found in Heavy Metal...
> > How could you forget a Latvian poet??
> > > HEAVY METAL AND IT'S INCLUSION OF FORMAL POETRY
> > > (songs that either used at least two verses of, or was closely based off of modern and classical poetry)
> > >
> > > List 1a: All POETS whose poetry was used:
> > >
> > > 1. unknown "The Battle of Brunanburh"
> > > 2. unknown "The Recovery of the Tain"
> > > 3. Dante Alighieri
That was the only one we saw at a glance.
> > >
> > > Noteworthy mention, a poet working with Metal musicians: William S Burroughs (1993)
> > >
> > > Ancient: 5 poets Classical: poets Romantic: poets Modern: 7 poets
> > We like Amergin's poems. "Who can tell the ages of the moon?" "If not I."
> I'm putting a treat up for you then, you know where-- two excellent songs done by Erin's sons, based VERY closely on the poem-- they did the poem GREAT justice IMO.

Thank you! Wonderful work, Ash--your efforts are much appreciated.

Ash Wurthing

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Part 2 and 3, I'm holding off on since I'm posting them up in another forum for critical review.

This is more than a mere list. This will be a reference work at my site and will be at one of the leading heavy metal online reference sites. In Part 3, I detail whether songs used-- and exactly what verses they used, or were closely based off a poem for a modern retelling of the poem (like with The Iliad, The Odyssey, Aeneid, Inferno, Paradise Lost)

Michael Pendragon

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I could've guessed that Poe would have been the most recorded "Metal Poet."

FWIW: When alphabetizing titles, "A" and "The" are placed at the end of the title and alphabetized accordingly:

"Battle of Brunanburh, The," (10th century AD), Anglo-Saxon poem
"Cats, The," (1925), H. P. Lovecraft
"Conqueror Worm, The," (1843), Edgar Allan Poe
"Crosses Grow on Anzio, The" (1948), Audie Murphy
"Dead Man Walking, The," (1890), Thomas Hardy
"Dream Within a Dream, A," (1849), Edgar Allan Poe
"Hag, The," (1674), Robert Herrick
"Haunted Palace, The," (1839), Edgar Allan Poe

Ash Wurthing

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I was pondering upon that and went with what I believe people, in informal use, would be looking for-- The Conqueror Worm rather than Conqueror Worm (The).
I'm still trying to decide whether to do it properly or informally. I could do it formerly with a note about not listed by "The" and "A".

Ash Wurthing

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So correct! I didn't even list all the uses of Poe's poetry-- just enough for a representative view. There's a band that named themselves "A Dream of Poe." I also didn't list all the songs based off his stories.

Baudelaire and Chambers were also popular.

NancyGene

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Poe would have been a rock star today. It's too bad he didn't live long enough to experience his popularity.

Ash Wurthing

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Yes.
I added yet another poem, "Alone" and ruined my "50 poems"
So he's top with the most poems used- depending on how you want to count the plate inscriptions of "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell."

William Blake - 2 poems, 1 book/collection of poems - 3 bands
Edgar Allan Poe - 10 poems - 5 bands
Charles Baudelaire - 3 poems, 7 bands
Thomas Hardy - 3 poems, 1 band
David Park Barnitz - 2 poems - 1 band
Homer - 2 poems, 1 band
H. P. Lovecraft - 1 poem, 5 bands
Robert W. Chambers - 1 poem, 4 bands
William Butler Yeats - 1 poem - 3 bands
Amergin Glangel (ancient Irish pagan poet) - 1 poem, 2 bands

Ash Wurthing

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
I have a challenge for you. I found a Russian metal band using this poem and I cannot find any formal references to it:

My Last Breath
(Poem by C. Whitlock)

It's so dark, It's hard to breath, I can't move.
I'm trying to get out.
I can't stay in here.
I am screaming.
No one can hear me.
I am trying to get out, I can't. I can't.
My heart is beating so fast.
My breaths are shorter, even shallow.
I close my eyes. I drift into my last thoughts.
I take my last breath....

Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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We saw that site too. "C. Whitlock" seems to have submitted the poem after a call for dark poems. S/he also submitted "The Curse."

Ash Wurthing

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Yep that's all I was able to find-- not sure if it was an original poem or just someone's favorite dark poem.

I was initially under the assumption that the poem wasn't a modern online poem.
The band that covered it, said this about the poems they used on that particular album: "Music set to the most tenebrous and sorrowful lyrics about death and futility of life written by classics of foreign poetry – Thomas Hardy, Christina Rossetti, Robert Herrick, Wilfred Owen and others"
The other poems were, all public domain:
~ ~ "In Tenebris" (1895) Thomas Hardy
~ ~ "The Dead Man Walking" (1890) by Thomas Hardy - - complete poem
~ ~ "To Life" (1916), Thomas Hardy
~ ~ "The Hag" (1674), Robert Herrick
~ ~ "Song (When I am dead, my dearest)" (1848), Christina Rossetti

Michael Pendragon

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It certainly makes for an intriguing mystery.

It's also on a FB page belonging to "Writer":

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100076332545953

The site was only active for three months in 2012, and states that: "this site is for reading poetrys and poems made by the people that run this site."

Michael Pendragon

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Stylistically, it's modern. Thematically, it's 19th century (a premature burial). I'm guessing that it's a Goth poem written somewhere between 1990-2012.

The other poems on the FB page are in a similar style -- though not necessarily by the same author.

The http://www.bandedspirits.com/darkpoems.html site appears to be asking for original poems: "Do you have a dark poem? Would you like to see it on our site and share it with the rest of the world? Please submit your poem today to our founder. Once reviewed, you will be notified when your poem will be listed." Their site states that "ALL MATERIAL IN THIS WEBSITE CANNOT BE REPRODUCED, RECREATED, MODIFIED OR COPIED WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION" and that it is "copyright 2007-2023," which further supports that it is a modern work.

Could Whitlock be a pen name for one of the Russian Metal band's members?


Ash Wurthing

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Let me check, don't see anything clues but amusing info
yes metal musicians all have their music aliases, some really painful ones

Morok
Real/full name: Ilya Karzov / Илья Карзов

Babooshka As Морок:
Bethlehem As Karzov:
Bog Morok
2010 Декаданс Vocals, Songwriting, Lyrics (as "Илья Карзов")
Cerebrium

Ash Wurthing

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I've decided, with the info and your analysis of the poem, that it is most likely belongs to the performer or someone on the Net, so I'm not going to include it on my list. I already went over 50 poems and finding more-- I'll have to do a limited representative list.

Here's an interesting find, how someone used, arranged Lord Byron's "Isles of Greece" (Third Canto of "Don Juan")
They made stanza 7 the chorus and mixed it with selected stanzas in the sequence of stanza 3, 7, 15, 7, 16, 7.

The mountains look on Marathon –
And Marathon looks on the sea;
And musing there an hour alone,
I dream’d that Greece might still be free;
For standing on the Persian’s grave,
I could not deem myself a slave.

Must we but weep o’er days more blest?
Must we but blush? – Our fathers bled.
Earth! Render back from out thy breast
A remnant of our Spartan dead!
Of the three hundred grant but three,
To make a new Thermopylae!

Fill high the bowl with Samian wine!
Our virgins dance beneath the shade –
I see their glorious black eyes shine;
But gazing on each glowing maid,
My own the burning tear-drop laves
To think such breasts must suckle slaves.

Must we but weep o’er days more blest?
Must we but blush? – Our fathers bled.
Earth! Render back from out thy breast
A remnant of our Spartan dead!
Of the three hundred grant but three,
To make a new Thermopylae!

Place me on Sunium’s marbled steep,
Where nothing, save the waves and I,
May hear our mutual murmurs sweep;
There, swan-like, let me sing and die:
A land of slaves shall ne’er be mine –
Dash down yon cup of Samian wine!

Must we but weep o’er days more blest?
Must we but blush? – Our fathers bled.
Earth! Render back from out thy breast
A remnant of our Spartan dead!
Of the three hundred grant but three,
To make a new Thermopylae!
To Make A New Thermopylae" by Dol Amroth
~ ~ "Isles of Greece" (Third Canto of "Don Juan") (1819) by Lord Byron
- - stanzas 3, 7, 15, 7, 16, 7

NancyGene

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We found one also, but the sound isn't good, and the vocal performance is more in the background to the orchestra.

Ash Wurthing

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A classical rendition? Nifty. I shall hunt it down.

Ash Wurthing

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Just added Tolkien to the list, I threw him in with Neo-Classical since he emulated the style of Classical, though I'm tempted to throw him in the Classical category (Classical, Neo-Classical, Romantic, Victorian, Modern were the general categories I use)...
Did you know that he wrote a 500 stanza old Norse epic "The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún" (two long poems: 'The New Lay of the Völsungs', and 'The New Lay of Gudrún')?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/may/05/jrr-tokien-sigurd-gudrun-poem
Much of his poetry was overlooked:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_in_The_Lord_of_the_Rings

Ash Wurthing

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Metal music! Historical quotes! and verse in scattered, tattered parts...
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/zrVuNw_iCcM/m/ZEEdeuhRAQAJ

Stars in azure encircled, stars in blue arranged in battle lines

"I wish to speak to you today about the tragedy of Europe...
over wide areas are a vast, quivering mass of tormented, hungry, careworn and bewildered human beings, who wait in the ruins of their cities and homes and scan the dark horizons for the approach of some new form of tyranny or terror. Among the victors there is a Babel of voices, among the vanquished the sullen silence of despair.
Indeed, but for the fact that the great republic across the Atlantic realised that the ruin or enslavement of Europe would involve her own fate as well, and stretched out hands of succour and guidance, the Dark Ages would have returned in all their cruelty and squalor. They may still return."
~~ Winston Churchill, Zurich Sept 19, 1946

"And I saw brothers fighting, not for honour but for gold
Enthralled by foreign agents like cattle we are sold
Oh goddess grant me an answer! Pray, make me understand!
Will the brothers fight forever? Can they be as one again?
The goddess speaks:
'My son. War is forever. He's the father of all men
But brothers once united will stand as one again' "
~~ Atlantean Kodex - Twelve Stars and an Azure Gown (An Anthem for Europa)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5X91UUv1o

"If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance, there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and glory which its three or four hundred million people would enjoy."
~~ Winston Churchill, speech delivered at the University of Zurich, 19 September 1946
https://www.cvce.eu/en/obj/address_given_by_winston_churchill_zurich_19_september_1946-en-7dc5a4cc-4453-4c2a-b130-b534b7d76ebd.html

The "great republic across the Atlantic", the American states have forgotten this and their own history of recovery from their own Civil War...

"We are situated differently in this respect from any other country. All the other great powers have a comparatively homogeneous population, close kindred in race and blood and speech, and commonly little divided in religious beliefs. Our great Nation is made up of the strong and virile pioneering stock of nearly all the countries of the world. We have a variety of race and language and religious belief."
~~ Calvin Coolidge, "Ways to Peace", speech at Arlington (31 May 1926)

Many different groups, all enthralled, enslaved to the pursuit of their American dream, too often at the detriment of the lives and liberties of the Commonwealth, just interested in their own.

There's parallels to be seen...
The Red and the Blue
inveighing what is false or what is true.
of The Left or The Right
simplistic scales of black and white-
to weigh who are wrong and who are right.
While this will be considered 'preachy'
by those in favor of their own reverie,
misfortune's memory makes it not so easy
to ignore those lost to the treachery

That we were created by our Gods
and favored as Their chosen
awarded the Earth as ours
and despite Their Commandments
They seem unable to protect us
from Their very own creations

Our nations so pusillanimous
declared to be the greatest,
with blind freedoms so magnanimous
None saved us from the madness
of lives needlessly cut short
being slaughtered like simple animals

It takes many to build, to mend
But only a few and a bit of hate
To unravel the unity that they must condemn
Their very own prophets foretold this fate
Even when hatred may appear united
They stand divisive, derisive and not immune
For what they sow is judgement blindly incited
Dragon's teeth that may as well be their own doom
The short sighted tyranny they impose
a vicious cycle reciprocated by their foes
What they build through repression
surely will crumble under the oppression
Those vainglory monuments to their victory
will fall into ruin to be mocked by history
~~AshWurthing

NancyGene

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Nov 2, 2023, 7:45:42 AM11/2/23
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Dragon's teeth will be pissbums' doom, if the law doesn't get them first. They will be "mocked," not by history but by people ignoring them.

Ash Wurthing

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True. Or ignorance of being a "superior" human/ freedom blessed American will make them unwitting victims for such a lowly thing like a Covid virus, or a mass shooter with a grievance and an assault rifle to take it out on everyone else.

But I focus on much better things than Losenet vets, I have an audience waiting-- a new remix of the online kerfuffle I in store for them.
Before I fly, something I found while looking for the last poets for the 50 poets in metal:

A band from Oregon named POET. A fvneral doom/death metal band with just two members listed. A male who does guitars, bass and "dirty" (nothin' to do with bums but it's the term for growling vocals) and a female who does violin, voila and vocals.
Their album is called Emily (songs simply named I, II, III, IV, V, VI)
That's right, the whole albums' lyrics are taken from Emily Dickinson's nature collection of poetry. Fitting since I do believe they're from Cascadia and bands from their have an unique outlook in their work.
The album can be heard here: https://poetdoom.bandcamp.com/album/emily

NancyGene

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Dec 2, 2023, 10:51:25 AM12/2/23
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Very good, Ash! This must be a post-garage band?

Ash Wurthing

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Dec 15, 2023, 7:33:31 PM12/15/23
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In my constant searching, with Christopher Lee working with Power Metal bands, I found:

Christopher Lee sings Elenore by Edgar Allan Poe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8bsnZEC2jk

Annabel Lee · sung by Stevie Nicks writers credited: Edgar Allan Poe & Stevie Nicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doJSRSWQkV8

interesting fact:
With the song "Jingle Hell," Lee entered the Billboard Hot 100 chart at No. 22, thus becoming the second oldest living performer to ever enter the music charts, at 91 years and 6 months. After media attention, the song rose to No. 18. as Lee became the oldest person to have a top 20 hit."

Ash Wurthing

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Dec 18, 2023, 6:10:44 PM12/18/23
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On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 7:33:31 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> In my constant searching, with Christopher Lee working with Power Metal bands, I found:
> Christopher Lee sings Elenore by Edgar Allan Poe
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8bsnZEC2jk
> Annabel Lee · sung by Stevie Nicks writers credited: Edgar Allan Poe & Stevie Nicks
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doJSRSWQkV8
> interesting fact:
> With the song "Jingle Hell," Lee entered the Billboard Hot 100 chart at No. 22, thus becoming the second oldest living performer to ever enter the music charts, at 91 years and 6 months. After media attention, the song rose to No. 18. as Lee became the oldest person to have a top 20 hit."

Christopher Lee was definitely a metal head! Recipient of the "Spirit of Metal" award from the 2010 Metal Hammer Golden Gods awards. And while he was alive, he was the oldest heavy metal performer in history. He's catagorized as power metal and symphonic metal.

Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross is a symphonic metal concept album by actor and singer Christopher Lee. This was Lee's first full-length album in the genre, having previously worked with such bands as Rhapsody of Fire and Manowar.

It tells the story of Charlemagne, the first Holy Roman Emperor, to whom Lee can trace his ancestry.
The album features 2 metal bands, and a number of guest vocalists playing the different roles in the story.


Charlemagne: The Omens of Death is the fourth and final album by actor and heavy metal singer Christopher Lee. The music was arranged by Judas Priest's Richie Faulkner, and features prominent Guatemalan guitar virtuoso and World Guitar Idol Champion Hedras Ramos on guitar, as well as his father, Hedras Ramos Sr, on bass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne:_The_Omens_of_Death

More at: https://www.youtube.com/@CharlemageProductions

Michael Pendragon

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On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 7:33:31 PM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing wrote:
Christopher Lee sounds great (as usual), but that isn't Poe he's singing.

Ash Wurthing

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Dec 19, 2023, 2:17:50 PM12/19/23
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TY for pointing that out-- I'm checking to see what it actually is...

Ash Wurthing

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The last poet of the poetry in Metal would have to be Aleister Crowley, "At Sea" in particular.

And with the closing of the files, a special treat...

OH LORDY! Can it be one last LETTER TO JORDY!!!
Yes my beleaguered pen-pal, it's that time again...
(can you just imagine it- if Fate was in a prank mood and made me famous, scholars will have these correspodences to bemuse them)

So let me tie this to a flaming arrow and shot it over the walls of your online safe place abode...

"Make no mistake
The arrow I've drawn is for you
I've been sharpening it's point
My whole life and my aim is true
They say the war is lost
But this battle you will lose"

"There's thunder in our hearts
But too much hate for the ones we love
All against all, from such wounds
We seed mighty oaks
No ocean too vast or conquest small
To wet the blade of tyranny"
--'Upon Our Spiritual Deathbed' ~~Primordial

But now that there's no group to worry about any longer, my criticisms of you can cease. And I must thank you for the compliments:
Jordy C
Jul 26, 2023, 8:36:48?PM
Some of us appreciate you and your posts a GREAT DEAL!!! And no, it’s not “fluting”, it’s simply the TRUTH! You are an interesting, fascinating, thought provoking character! That’s just the good honest TRUTH!
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/nI9zbXyAnVo/m/ WB6Xi30PAAAJ

(I should also post the compliments from your friends, who despite being petty and trashin' me, also have complimented my work, like here:
Zod
Jun 11, 2022, 5:35:14 PM
"You are becoming better and better with poetry, Mr. Ash, I liked this.... ")

And your friends will be reading and only able to stew and spew, for they're just trash fish scraps fitting only for flavoring fish stew- Hell, the potatoes would have more substance than they do!

"Some wax strong, others weak; the brave exult, but the cowards tremble, as men who are sore dismayed."
~Master Wace

"In the Age of fire and death
The higher man is distinguished from the low
By his fearlessness and readiness
To challenge misfortune, to challenge DEATH"
--'I Am The Moonchild' ~~Rotting Christ

I'll tell you what I think about it all, been formulationg it all my life-- you all are screwed-- all sides of all of you.

"As fallen from the heavens — As granted from above
Forbidden harvest divine, the very flesh of the gods
Succumb now to the spirit and succumb now to the void
And succumb now to the darkness in which you shall devolve"
--'Metamorphosis' ~~Funeral Mist

Ash Wurthing

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Feb 22, 2024, 3:09:21 AM2/22/24
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"Behind this mask there is more than just flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea... and ideas are bulletproof."
~ 'V for Vendetta' ~ Alan Moore

Ideas are greater than mere Men. They persist regardless of what Man does to master or vanquish them. For they are like seeds of a contagion, a spark of a conflagration, a revolution, a catastrophe in the fertile minds of Men.

Ash had come to bury, not to praise himself, not to raise self-aggrandizing monuments to his self-proclaimed grandiose deeds in the forgotten razed Etherlands...

What you consider lunacy is a lack of respite from the concepts, where there's no escaping them even in sleep, for it's a ghastly gallimaufry of haunted memories and voices and desperate thoughts to ward them all off. So I shall write a fate wrought testament of it.

So I will essay on the futility. And come what may, I would have said what I've come to say...

I speak of sincerity in purpose
selflessness in word and deed
Purity of purpose, serenity of being
free of the terrible weight of the world
To shed its shackles and rise above its discord

And this dirge that I have begun
rambles and it's dreadfully long
for it's eternal and will be sung
from here to eternity, life long
by all the pain I see around me
those with avarice in their eyes
greedy to be happy, yet not free
The desolation in their voices
the dolorous sighs of hopes dying
as their aspirations crumble to the ground
Who would have wisdom, come gather around
while I tell that respite is six feet down
So steel yourself to the terror of the screams
for they're merely of slaughtered dreams

And the Devil will guide my hand
While I write to make them understand
What this Hell of ours is really like
and the rightful purpose of my fight

And here I stand alone
on my soapbox of thrown stones
so wisely I try to intone
for the guilty to atone
misguided deeds with mindful creeds
for the blindfolded to heed
what I shout about so fervently
my uncouth, firebrand delivery
bold n brass with so much crass
I imagine myself another F Douglass
striving to wise up and persevere
over those plugging their ears
to hide from what they fear to hear
by having their heads up their rears

.. - * * * - ..
CAMILLA: "You, sir, should unmask."
STRANGER: "Indeed?"
CASSILDA: "Indeed it's time. We have all laid aside disguise but you."
STRANGER: "I wear no mask."
CAMILLA: (Terrified, aside to Cassilda.) "No mask? No mask!"
~ 'The King in Yellow' Act 1, Scene 2d ~ Robert W Chambers

From earliest memory, my eyes were opened to the harsh reality, by your selfishness, your ignorance, your cruelty; and it made me realize I am not truly one of You. And you now fear me for that, that I would indiscriminately harm your kind since I'm not like you– but that's your way, not mine, since I'm not one of You...

I cannot see you, or them, or myself,
nor any of our beauty or ugliness.
But I am not completely lost-
for I can hear it in everyone's words-
that which reveals their true intents,
casts an unforgiving light upon their deeds.
I would say it is for the best-
not to see what we have become,
but I am still cursed to hear it.

Ash is the shadow of a mirror reflection that is a disguise worn by a characterization required by machinations of a plan conceptualized by someone. Six guises representing six concepts that are six keys to six codes of six books to reveal the seventh book of seven secrets.

What was it that you wanted
always ash anointed
Dreams fly wantonly
But you cannot see
the freedom of the care free
while dwelling upon echoes of the sound
of everything about to come crashing down

And what was gained with such ease
also lost so easily due to our apathies
Such uncaring, unwary stands as these
who succumb to the demands of the Furies

.. - * * * - ..
"... seizing the mummer, whose tall figure stood erect and motionless within the shadow of the ebony clock, gasped in unutterable horror at finding the grave-cerements and corpse-like mask which they handled with so violent a rudeness, untenanted by any tangible form"
'The Masque of the Red Death' ~Edgar Allan Poe
.. - * * * - ..

I walk that line, horror harrowed
and keep it straight and narrow
So give my trigger finger bones
to all the enemies I've known
in glorious death I'll be gracious
and deign to award their efforts
Do with my flesh as you wish
but stake my skull up high
so I can grin upon the strife
and welcome those that will die

While you will have a God to always love you
and an ego to keep expanding your vainglory horizons
I remain your dread sovereign
And desolate is my reign
Over your fitful slumber
I orchestrate the horrors
hosting the nightmare feast
smacking my lips at all the gore
savoring the gnawing upon your bones

Jordy C

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It’s good to see you posting again… adamantly disagree with you about various topics and issues, but have always found you to be in interesting, fascinating, complex, intriguing character, and wish you all the best, always…
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