AAPC - OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQs

Michael Pendragon

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Welcome to AAPC – the “in place” for poets and poetry fans to hang out in the 21st century.

You may have only recently discovered this group, but it has been around for a while, and therefore has a decades long history of archived posts that are accessible via the search function.

Start there. Learn from our history in order to not repeat our mistakes.

Then, before you post, please think about being interesting. We lose more visitors here due to lack of interest than any other single cause.

AAPC is an unmoderated group, so pretty much anything goes.

But while we don’t have any official set of rules per se, here are some guidelines for getting along with your fellow AAPC members:

1) Treat other members with some semblance of civility. Like generates like. If you treat others with a little respect, they’ll probably return the favor.

2) Post On-Topic. The topic here is Poetry, so post an original poem or comment on someone else’s poetry. If you want to discuss folk music, “Star Trek,” comic books or post videos of the “talent” at your local karaoke bar, you’re in the wrong group.

3) Don’t over post. Limiting one’s posts to 10 per day is greatly appreciated. Making 25 posts per day can be damned annoying; so unless you’re the most interesting and knowledgeable writer on the planet, save it for your personal blog.

4) Don’t hijack other people’s threads. If a thread’s topic is “Walt Whitman,” you should only make a comment pertaining to Walt Whitman. If you wish to discuss a poem you’ve written that was inspired by Mr. Whitman, start your own thread.

5) Flame wars happen – especially in unmoderated groups like this one. However, there are certain lines that no one should ever cross. Don’t attack your opponent’s family members (unless he/she introduces them into the discussion). And remember that what happens on AAPC stays at AAPC. Don’t threaten to contact your opponent’s spouse, employer, etc.

6) Don’t repeat or bump posts. If you post an original poem and no one comments on it… tough cookies. Lack of response means that no one found it interesting enough to warrant one. If you must repost it, at least have the decency to wait a year or seven. While you’re waiting you can write something new and try posting it instead. Similarly, if you must bump, please limit yourself to one bump per poem or post.
*Seasonal poems, however, can be bumped/reposted each year.

7) Don’t respond to a post unless you have something of value to contribute to the thread. One word replies, and generic responses such as "I agree" and "yep" and "You nailed it" and "having another read" should be avoided. Comments mean comments, not clichés.

8) Don’t post and run. If you post a famous poem, make an original comment on it. We all have, or are capable of subscribing to, Poem a Day. We don’t need to read (or reread) every single poem that you do. If you like a poem, but can’t think of anything to say about it, don’t post it.

9) Don’t feed the trolls.

FAQs:

1. WHAT IS AAPC?
Alt.arts.poetry.comments is a Usenet group of poets who share their work
for comments or critiques. Some poets use the group as a sounding board
before submitting their poem(s) to literary magazines. Most are looking
for advice or help in fine-tuning their writing, developing better
images, improving their use of language, and making sure their writing
is clear and enjoyable to the reader.

2. WHAT DOES C&C MEAN?
Generally, Comments & Critiques (or Criticism). Some writers put this
in the header of their post (i.e. "Lazy Day Poem - C&C Please") to
indicate that they want comments on their poem. However, since the
group is devoted to comments, most posts will receive a reply of some
kind even without the C&C designation.

3. HOW SHOULD I POST MY POETRY?
There are no cut-and-dried rules for posting poetry to AAPC. However,
there are a few "don'ts" that are fairly broadly agreed upon:
-- Do not post your poem as an attachment to your message. Most
internet users are aware that dangerous computer viruses can be
contained in Microsoft Word documents, and will ignore .doc
attachments. In general, it is easier on the reader to include the poem
in the body of the post; downloading and opening attachments usually
takes too much time.
-- Do not post using HTML. Some newsgroup-reading software cannot
handle HTML posts, and some automatically reject them, so not everyone
will see your post. They also are larger in size and take up more space
on the computer and more bandwidth in transmission. Most software used
to read and post newsgroups allows you to choose between posting as
plain text or HTML; choose the plain text option.
-- Do not attach pictures (binaries, gifs, jpegs, etc.) or sound files
(wavs, midis, mpegs, etc.) to your posts. Again, some news servers will
automatically reject them, so not everyone will see your post.
-- Do not type your poem or message in all capital letters. Using all
caps is universally considered "shouting" in newsgroups and chat rooms.

4. HOW MANY POEMS SHOULD I POST AT A TIME?
While there is no limit to the number of poems you can post at a
sitting, people are most likely to read and respond to your poem if you
post no more than two or three at a time. And as mentioned above, since
there are many poems posted each day, a shorter work is more likely to
receive comments.

5. WHAT KIND OF HEADER SHOULD I USE?
Use the title of the poem, if it has one. If you can't decide on a
title, try a header like: "Need a Title..." to let the reader know you'd
appreciate comments on that subject. If it is your first poem-post, it
is fine to use the header "First Poem" or "First Post". Do not use
headers designed strictly to get attention, and it is preferable not to
use headers that have nothing to do with your poem.

6. DO I HAVE TO HAVE A TITLE FOR MY POEM?
Not necessarily - see #5.

7. DO I HAVE TO WRITE A CERTAIN KIND OF POETRY?
AAPC has poets who use all forms and styles of poetry. The group
includes but is not limited to free verse, tanka, haiku, sonnet,
sestina.... Feel free to use the poetic form you are most comfortable
with, or to post experiments in forms. There are several poets who are
quite knowledgeable and can help you with the rules of certain poetic
forms.

8. WHAT IF I DON'T GET ANY COMMENTS?
There could be several reasons for the lack of comments. Most likely it
is because the group is following the old rule: "If you can't say
nothin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." The readers might not have
understood your poem or liked it. Sometimes posts are ignored because
of too much bad spelling, grammar or punctuation, which can distract the
reader from the content of the poem and make it frustrating to get
through.
Check your post again; look for typos, correct any errors that you find,
and repost it in a few days with the note that it has been revised.
It is an (until now) unspoken rule, though, that it is best to read the
group for a few days, contribute some comments of your own, then post
your poem once people have noticed you and gotten to know you. Many
readers are more comfortable commenting when they've seen you around for
awhile and know that you are interested in what they have to say.
Also, consider the length of your post. Since there are many poems
posted every day, a shorter work is more likely to receive comments.

9. SHOULD I RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS I RECEIVE?
Definitely! Even if you don't agree with the comment, it is a courtesy
to make a brief response to show you appreciated the time taken to read
and reply to your poem. If you repeatedly do not respond to comments on
your work, you may find that readers stop commenting altogether.

10. WHEN AND HOW SHOULD I COMMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS?
All posts are open to comments. Feel free to point out what
specifically you liked about the poem: what lines, images, words did you
find particularly interesting or captivating? At the same time, you can
also point out any changes you feel might enhance the poem. If you feel
a word in a certain place is awkward, feel free to comment on it and
suggest a suitable replacement word if you can. It isn't necessary to
give a detailed commentary on each poem, though; in general, the poet
will appreciate knowing you read the poem, so a few words to indicate
you read and enjoyed it are always nice.

11. IS IT OK TO EMAIL MY COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE POET?
This is usually a matter of personal preference. If you have become
familiar with the poet through other posts to the newsgroup, it is
generally acceptable. If you do not know the person, they may ignore
your email, so it is preferable to post to the group.

12. CAN I REWRITE SOMEONE'S POEM FOR THEM?
If you feel comfortable doing so, the poet will usually appreciate the
effort involved. Rewriting sections or giving comments on specific
lines are welcome as well.

13. DO YOU HAVE IRC CHATS OR OTHER SCHEDULED GATHERINGS?
Not as of this writing (February 1999). There is a semi-official AAPC
chat room but it has never been used for a formal AAPC chat. There has
also been some banter on having a picnic in the summer of 1999, but no
volunteer hosts as of yet.

14. ARE THERE ANY AAPC-RELATED WEB SITES?
Many of the poets have their own sites, and most list them in their
signature files or post notices of updates to the newsgroup.

15. ARE THERE ANY PUBLISHED / FAMOUS / INFAMOUS POETS IN THE GROUP?
Depends on who you ask! The vast majority of the poets have had some of
their work published. Some are published widely in anthologies and
well-respected poetry journals. No one has made a million from their
poetry, but we have our suspicions on who will be famous someday.

16. DO POETRY EDITORS READ THE NEWSGROUP?
Some participants are editors of poetry journals, both on-line and
print. Quite possibly there are other editors who "lurk" (read but
don't post).

17. MIGHT I BE OFFERED A BOOK CONTRACT BY POSTING MY POETRY HERE?
Not likely. If you are, be very suspicious of it.

18. WHAT IS CONSIDERED "OFF-TOPIC"?
Poets by their nature enjoy tangents. You'll see a lot of threads
beginning with a poem and going off in a sometimes bizarre, completely
unrelated direction.
By and large, keep your original posts (not part of an existing thread)
limited to your own poetry, or questions about poetry.

19. DO I HAVE TO USE MY REAL NAME?
Internet handles are okay, many regulars use them. To build
familiarity, stick to the same one, or use your real name.

Hieronymous Corey

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Feb 26, 2021, 9:39:56 AM2/26/21

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It was interesting to see my suggestion right there near the top,
but then it got less interesting the more I read. No offense intended.

Will Dockery

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Feb 26, 2021, 9:47:39 AM2/26/21

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Which suggestion is yours?

ashwu...@gmail.com

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NancyGene

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Feb 26, 2021, 6:30:55 PM2/26/21

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We now have famous poets in our group and also poetry editors.

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Hieronymous Corey

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Unless you’re looking for suggestions for revision,
you might be better served to host this somewhere
else, and then post links to it here on a regular basis.

Hieronymous Corey

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You have a right to lurk (remain silent).
If you give up the right to lurk, anything
you write can and will be parsed beyond
sense, and used for tangential asides,
leading to discussions of matters about
which you have no knowledge or interest.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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Mar 2, 2021, 6:46:59 PM3/2/21

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With the new groups interface I use filtering because they dropped some features that made it easier for me to use the Web interface without it becoming a frustrating hassle. It's a constant game of adapting to every time browsers and web apps/pages change and throw my system and browser mods into disarray.

So I will be posting
HOW TO SET UP EASY FILTERING OF THE CONVERSATIONS/THREADS LISTING (beyond simple menu select filtering of the Group web page)

ashwu...@gmail.com

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__HOW TO SET UP EASY FILTERING OF THE CONVERSATIONS/THREADS LISTING__

(beyond simple menu select filtering of the Group web page)

This is the URL that can be made into a desktop shortcut or browser bookmark to open the group with pre-applied filters:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=author%3A-Zod%20author%3A-Dockery%20

* //Apologies that I included actual names but inserting proper placeholder syntax would just confuse (see below)//

This URL can be edited, but don't remove anything like "%20", " %3A " which is necessary code for blank spaces and other special characters. It would probably be easier to enter a search at the Group web page and either bookmark or copy and paste the URL in the browser address bar that is generated by the Group search (see below).

In my editor I have bookmarks with different search queries to open up the group with different filters. There's a drop-down menu where I can tell the query link generator which authors to show only their threads or screen out their threads. I do this because I will often display/browse the group not signed in from the editor running in a web browser.

__Using the Group's web page search box__:

This can be pasted/entered into the Group's web page search box:

author:-(name1) author:-(name2)

1) Replace (name#) with member's name or part of the name if it is multiple words.
2) Google generic search syntax works with Group search, so using "-" before a name removes the search term rather than telling it to search for. You can do the same with subject searches: subject:-
3) You can chain multiple authors by repeating the author:-(name) by just having a space between them.

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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ashwu...@gmail.com

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Someone using newsgroup readers needs to put some info up here about killfiles to go along with the filtering info. I'm looking into what can be done for GMail users. Also looking into easy ways of bumping up essential threads like this one.

ashwu...@gmail.com

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^

NancyGene

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Mar 13, 2021, 4:25:11 PM3/13/21

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Rules to live by.

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Ash Wurthing

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NEW AAPC FIGHT CLUB HOUSE RULE:
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In support of Pendragon's (and mine and others I'm sure) vision of what AAPC could become-- a place for poets and those appreciating poetry to gather and _discuss_ poetry and poems:

Try to keep fighting not related to the poem and its commentary, off of its thread. Poetry (not obvious troll poetry) threads are neutral ground. There's plenty of other threads to fight on-- like the troll poetry threads.

(This doesn't bar heated or negative commentary and exchanges-- this isn't Romper Room)
(I can say this as a guilty party and what I intend on practicing in the future)

Ash Wurthing

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Mar 30, 2021, 11:27:36 PM3/30/21

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Next on the agenda will be that rumored non-aggression agreement (not peace pact) toward new members that don't wish to be part of the fighting.

ME

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On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 23:27:36 UTC-4, ashwu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Next on the agenda will be that rumored non-aggression agreement (not peace pact) toward new members that don't wish to be part of the fighting.

Bump

Michael Pendragon

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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon wrote:

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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ME

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Bump

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Ash Wurthing

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NOTE OF INTEREST:

Using the filter 'author:-Dockery' appears to filter out posts he starts and posts that he's the last commenter on.

ME

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Apr 18, 2021, 2:19:58 PM4/18/21

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Thank you so much for that info, Ash.

Michael Pendragon

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Coco DeSockmonkey

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/RbvzM9vnJf8/m/KT0lBFcZEgAJ?hl=en

Michael Pendragon

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Jan 27, 2023, 9:14:22 AM1/27/23

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Since our resident troll has been claiming that no Guidelines exist, I figured it was a good time to bump ours.

Michael Pendragon

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ME

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ME

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Jul 17, 2023, 4:32:57 PM7/17/23

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He just can’t stand it.
His name must be first.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:18:56 PM7/17/23

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Sure does look that way.

ME

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Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Jul 17, 2023, 8:33:48 PM7/17/23

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His name "shall be composted."

Coco DeSockmonkey

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Jul 17, 2023, 9:55:33 PM7/17/23

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LOL!

NancyGene

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Jul 18, 2023, 6:43:20 AM7/18/23

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Dead and dried Pickles sends a "Shalom & Erev tov," to you from the rest stop.

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Jul 18, 2023, 7:57:15 PM7/18/23

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We included these rules in our marriage vows.

Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Jul 19, 2023, 6:02:38 AM7/19/23

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The Founding Fathers of our great nation would have included these FAQs in their Declarations, but it's not too late for amendments.

NancyGene

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Jul 19, 2023, 11:34:27 AM7/19/23

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FAQs are self-evident.

George Dance

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Jul 19, 2023, 10:06:13 PM7/19/23

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On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:00:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 10:47:05 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 9:49:42 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:24:15 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:55:33 AM UTC, Michael Monkey aka "Coco DeSockmonkey" wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-5, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to AAPC – the “in place” for poets and poetry fans to hang out in the 21st century.

<snip >

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>

Lying Michael Monkey's Guidelines Lie
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JULBCDoohF0/m/Ryvj7abxAwAJ?hl=en

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 20, 2023, 11:53:27 AM7/20/23

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The majority of AAPC members have accepted the current Guidelines (and the others were given ample opportunity to raise any objections they might have).

Usenet works on democratic lines, and (story of your life) you've been out-voted.

NancyGene

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Jul 20, 2023, 12:28:15 PM7/20/23

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It was a fair vote and for the good of AAPC. If the three (in particular) posters who break the rules would follow them instead, they would be more accepted by others.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 20, 2023, 1:29:31 PM7/20/23

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Well put, as always, NancyGene.

NancyGene

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Jul 20, 2023, 2:50:42 PM7/20/23

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Thank you. No one wants to read messages that consist of hellos a dozen times a day. That's not poetry. It isn't even good writing.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 20, 2023, 3:38:50 PM7/20/23

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That's what happens when non-poets/non-writers infest a poetry group.

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Non-poets and non-writers should just read and try to learn, instead of forcing themselves on a group.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 21, 2023, 11:11:17 AM7/21/23

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That's similar to what PJR used to say: something along the lines of "go read 25,000 poems then come back and try again."

Of course the operative words are "forcing themselves on a group." Non-poets and non-writers are welcome to join and participate in the group -- just not to flood it with their "poetry" and mutual slurps.

NancyGene

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Jul 21, 2023, 12:29:12 PM7/21/23

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We think that is a mistake that newcomers make on a group--posting too much immediately. They should read it for at least a week, familiarize themselves with the tone and topics, recognize who posts, and then do a tentative post asking a question. We have seen too many people (who are no longer on AAPC) get into arguments right away, alienate current members, and make fools of themselves by ignoring those suggestions.

Ash Wurthing

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Jul 21, 2023, 5:52:20 PM7/21/23

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It's not even chit chat-- it blatant trollin' 'n they know it 'cause they don't do it on RAP

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 21, 2023, 6:57:43 PM7/21/23

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Word is that the Donkey and his Stink shut down several groups/forums that way.

Ash Wurthing

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Jul 21, 2023, 9:24:31 PM7/21/23

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Look at this brilliance:

he's speak of deflection, like his owns the word-- that might be the issue, he appropriated it, so he thinks he owns it to redefine it to match his delusion narrative...

Will Dockery
1:22 AM
"Back on topic, away from the deflection posts."

Jordy C
8:16 AM
"Shalom Will"

Will Dockery
8:18 AM
"Great to see you again this morning, Jordy."

Jordy C
8:19 AM
"hola Mr Will"

Will Dockery
8:34 AM
"Hello again, my friend."

Jordy C
Jul 14, 2023, 10:39:43 PM
"bonjour, Will"

George Dance

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Jul 22, 2023, 3:08:46 AM7/22/23

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On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 11:53:27 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:06:13 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:00:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 10:47:05 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 9:49:42 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:24:15 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:55:33 AM UTC, Michael Monkey aka "Coco DeSockmonkey" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-5, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to AAPC – the “in place” for poets and poetry fans to hang out in the 21st century.
> > <snip >
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> > Lying Michael Monkey's Guidelines Lie
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/JULBCDoohF0/m/Ryvj7abxAwAJ?hl=en
> The majority of AAPC members have accepted the current Guidelines

Oh, really? PPOSTFU.

> (and the others were given ample opportunity to raise any objections they might have).

> Usenet works on democratic lines, and (story of your life) you've been out-voted.

No, Usenet does not work "on democratic lines." Where did you get that from?

NancyGene

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Jul 22, 2023, 9:40:38 AM7/22/23

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Truth!

Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Jul 23, 2023, 6:20:45 AM7/23/23

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Pickles shut down the Yahoo Groups.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 23, 2023, 3:15:27 PM7/23/23

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Really? IIRC, he had a much lower spam rate than the Donkey and his socks.

NancyGene

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Jul 23, 2023, 4:13:37 PM7/23/23

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Are there any Yahoo Groups left? We rest our case...

Michael Pendragon

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I never thought of that.

Actually, I never realized that the Yahoo Groups were toast.

NancyGene

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Jul 24, 2023, 9:24:55 AM7/24/23

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They were completely shut down and deleted by 2020. No archives, no owners, no users. Pickles would have been devastated if he had not been dust on his bicycle tires.

Coco DeSockmonkey

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Jul 24, 2023, 12:19:25 PM7/24/23

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His bike has been composted.

NancyGene

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Jul 24, 2023, 1:25:04 PM7/24/23

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We assumed that it had been stolen, but what about his filing cabinets that contain "The Document" and his never-to-be-finished manuscript?

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 24, 2023, 1:43:43 PM7/24/23

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It's locked up in Hangar 18.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 24, 2023, 2:58:37 PM7/24/23

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Ash Wurthing

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Jul 24, 2023, 5:31:39 PM7/24/23

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So sad that, says the doomsayer...

Michael Pendragon

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ME

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NancyGene

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There were actually some good (and many bad) Yahoo Groups. Pickles got kicked off of many of them.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 25, 2023, 11:32:43 AM7/25/23

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I checked out a couple, but they were pretty dull.

Michael Pendragon

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NancyGene

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Jul 25, 2023, 6:00:37 PM7/25/23

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Pickles tried to exert his ignorance at some of them and got tossed.

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 25, 2023, 9:25:18 PM7/25/23

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Pickles do work well in tossed salads.

NancyGene

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Pickles, like a certain pissbum, claimed that he had been reading about, for instance, dinosaurs since he was 5. Therefore, he was an expert.

Michael Pendragon

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His cat was supposedly a survivor from the Mesozoic Era.