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George J.
Dec 15, 2023, 11:05:17 AM12/15/23
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The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
"I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
"Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
google groups will be disallowed.)"
Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
|So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
*************************************************************************
Google Groups ending support for Usenet
If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
What’s changing?
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
What do I need to do?
If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
"I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
"Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
google groups will be disallowed.)"
Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
|So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
*************************************************************************
Google Groups ending support for Usenet
If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
What’s changing?
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
What do I need to do?
If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Will Dockery
Dec 15, 2023, 11:09:57 AM12/15/23
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https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
And so it goes.
Will Dockery
Dec 15, 2023, 11:45:16 AM12/15/23
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On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>
>
Reading comprehension problems, apparently.
Usenet isn't dying, just no longer on Google Groups.
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
HTH and HAND.
Will Dockery
Dec 15, 2023, 11:22:43 PM12/15/23
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Long article with many thoughts on the decline of Google Groups:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35070618
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35070618
General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 4:30:18 AM12/16/23
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Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
That is all.
W.Dockery
Dec 16, 2023, 11:25:14 AM12/16/23
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George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will not.
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is over to Nova BBS:
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
> *************************************************************************
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Gregory Morrow
Dec 16, 2023, 1:25:50 PM12/16/23
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W.Dockery wrote:
> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
> over to Nova BBS:
>
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
> over to Nova BBS:
>
>
>
How can we get rid of that sewer next?
General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 2:40:17 PM12/16/23
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
"Tear in your eye."
"Tear in your eye."
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 4:03:12 PM12/16/23
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On 15/12/2023 16:04, George J. Dance wrote:
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at
> the top of the front page: "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups
> will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will
> be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear.
> Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
> is done today."
<whinesnip>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at
> the top of the front page: "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups
> will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will
> be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear.
> Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
> is done today."
Woo hoo!
Woo hoo!!
Woo fucking hoo, with well-polished brass knobs on!!!
Unlike all you pathetic subhuman plagiarists, paedophiles, stalkers,
bums, drug-addicts and drunkards, who depend on the Internet for
everything, I received the wonderful news by telephone yesterday, and
today I'm here to celebrate.
Woo hoo!
Woo hoo!!
Woo fucking hoo, and this is almost as good news as the death of a Dunce
or a Dreckster!!!
(Note: In case anybody's reading this who isn't a moron, I apologise for
using Thunderbird for this post, and perhaps a few more posts. I'll be
setting up slrn and vim as soon as I can, but I'm quite elderly
nowadays, so it may take me a day or three.)
--
PJR :-)
General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 4:05:15 PM12/16/23
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Well put G.D.
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
Will Dockery
Dec 16, 2023, 4:07:02 PM12/16/23
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🙂
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 4:16:04 PM12/16/23
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[AHM added]
I've already port-scanned it.
I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you understand.
It's a nice site, isn't it?
It would be a shame if something happened to it.
--
PJR :-)
I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you understand.
It's a nice site, isn't it?
It would be a shame if something happened to it.
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
Dec 16, 2023, 4:20:50 PM12/16/23
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🙂
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 4:26:09 PM12/16/23
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On 16/12/2023 21:07, Will Dockery wrote:
> Wow, Peter J. Ross lives!
Does he? If so, why is he the only inhabitant of this planet whom you
> Wow, Peter J. Ross lives!
haven't invited to post drivel in AAPC?
--
PJR :-)
Accept no dotty substitutes.
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 4:33:26 PM12/16/23
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[AHM restored. Hello, empty AHM! AUK added. Hello, empty AUK!]
Meanwhile, clueless newbie, when are you going to learn that it's
acceptable to remove a newsgroup from the list of crossposted newsgroups
only if you notify the removal in the body of your post?
--
PJR :-)
> Yes, Retro Guy might need to ban you.
I live in perpetual dread of that happening.
Meanwhile, clueless newbie, when are you going to learn that it's
acceptable to remove a newsgroup from the list of crossposted newsgroups
only if you notify the removal in the body of your post?
--
PJR :-)
%
Dec 16, 2023, 4:37:59 PM12/16/23
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Peter J Ross wrote:
> [AHM restored. Hello, empty AHM! AUK added. Hello, empty AUK!]
>
> On 16/12/2023 21:20, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> [AHM added]
>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>> understand.
>>>
>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>
>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>> Yes, Retro Guy might need to ban you.
>
> I live in perpetual dread of that happening.
>
> Meanwhile, clueless newbie, when are you going to learn that it's
> acceptable to remove a newsgroup from the list of crossposted newsgroups
> only if you notify the removal in the body of your post?
>
you can add stuff too
> [AHM restored. Hello, empty AHM! AUK added. Hello, empty AUK!]
>
> On 16/12/2023 21:20, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> [AHM added]
>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>> understand.
>>>
>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>
>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>> Yes, Retro Guy might need to ban you.
>
> I live in perpetual dread of that happening.
>
> Meanwhile, clueless newbie, when are you going to learn that it's
> acceptable to remove a newsgroup from the list of crossposted newsgroups
> only if you notify the removal in the body of your post?
>
%
Dec 16, 2023, 4:56:06 PM12/16/23
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General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 5:55:15 PM12/16/23
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So glad to see Peter is apparently doing well...!
That is all.
Edmond Wollmann
Dec 16, 2023, 6:50:25 PM12/16/23
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On 16 Dec 2023, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> posted some
news:ku6icg...@mid.individual.net:
Not that you'd be capable of doing anything to influence it.
news:ku6icg...@mid.individual.net:
W.Dockery
Dec 16, 2023, 7:35:14 PM12/16/23
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🙂
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 8:22:12 PM12/16/23
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anything to, er, doing, er ...
Is there anything you're capable of doing, socky? I need to imagine
something that you're capable of doing in order to complete my reply.
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
Dec 16, 2023, 8:22:30 PM12/16/23
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General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 8:55:13 PM12/16/23
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Peter, you seem to be losing your edge...
What a boring comeback..!
W.Dockery
Dec 16, 2023, 10:10:13 PM12/16/23
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HTH and HAND.
Edmond Wollmann
Dec 16, 2023, 10:47:26 PM12/16/23
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On 16 Dec 2023, W.Dockery @news.novabbs.com (W.Dockery) posted some
news:035f9fc3b354e97b...@news.novabbs.com:
Wait until he finds the puppy in his stocking. I scraped it up after a
car ran over it.
news:035f9fc3b354e97b...@news.novabbs.com:
car ran over it.
Edmond Wollmann
Dec 16, 2023, 10:47:29 PM12/16/23
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid>, the farting moocher and tepid
faux-man who likes ravenous in and out jobs with echidnas, and whose
partner is a woman-of-Babylon with a commodious juice box, wrote in
<slrnunsja...@nntp.pjross.me>:
> On 2023-12-16, Edmond Wollmann <le...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>> On 16 Dec 2023, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> posted some
>> news:ku6icg...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> [AHM added]
>>>
>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I
>>>>> can tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of
>>>>> a.a.p.c. is over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>>
>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>> understand.
>>>
>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>
>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>> Not that you'd be capable of doing anything to influence it.
>
> Not that
Yes that.
Be more respectful to your betters or you'll find faggots in your wheel
chair spokes.
faux-man who likes ravenous in and out jobs with echidnas, and whose
partner is a woman-of-Babylon with a commodious juice box, wrote in
<slrnunsja...@nntp.pjross.me>:
> On 2023-12-16, Edmond Wollmann <le...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>> On 16 Dec 2023, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> posted some
>> news:ku6icg...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> [AHM added]
>>>
>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I
>>>>> can tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of
>>>>> a.a.p.c. is over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>>
>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>> understand.
>>>
>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>
>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>> Not that you'd be capable of doing anything to influence it.
>
> Not that
Be more respectful to your betters or you'll find faggots in your wheel
chair spokes.
General-Zod
Dec 16, 2023, 11:50:14 PM12/16/23
to
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2023, Wlll Dockery @news.novabbs.com (W.Dockery) posted some
Oh Lordy..
"Tear in his eye."
> On 16 Dec 2023, Wlll Dockery @news.novabbs.com (W.Dockery) posted some
"Tear in his eye."
Family Guy
Dec 17, 2023, 12:10:52 PM12/17/23
to
On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
Google can go phuck itself.
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
They / It completely ruined YouTube.
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
I personally hope that they gather for a family reunion and that there's a gas leak.
>
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
Family Guy
Dec 17, 2023, 12:12:04 PM12/17/23
to
General-Zod
Dec 17, 2023, 3:40:16 PM12/17/23
to
Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>>
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
> Yes, for me, it basically means Nova BBS will be the top spot for Usenet posting and reading:
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> And so it goes.
Ash seems to be thinking Google groups will continue alt.arts.poetry.comments as the name of the group, but with no input from Usenet.... odd and interesting possibility...
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> And so it goes.
General-Zod
Dec 18, 2023, 1:45:34 PM12/18/23
to
George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
> *************************************************************************
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Will Dockery
Dec 19, 2023, 9:50:25 AM12/19/23
to
And so it goes.
General-Zod
Dec 19, 2023, 3:30:20 PM12/19/23
to
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
Will Dockery
Dec 19, 2023, 5:13:08 PM12/19/23
to
;)
Ash Wurthing
Dec 19, 2023, 6:00:00 PM12/19/23
to
General-Zod
Dec 19, 2023, 8:20:11 PM12/19/23
to
Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:13:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>> >
>> > > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> > > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>> >
>> > > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>> >
>> > > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>> >
>> > > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>> >
>> > > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>> >
>> > > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> > > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> > > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> > > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>> >
>> > > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> > > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>> >
>> > > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>> >
>> > > *************************************************************************
>> >
>> > > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> > > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>> >
>> > > What’s changing?
>> > > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups..
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:13:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>> >
>> > > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> > > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>> >
>> > > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>> >
>> > > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>> >
>> > > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>> >
>> > > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>> >
>> > > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> > > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> > > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> > > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>> >
>> > > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> > > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>> >
>> > > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>> >
>> > > *************************************************************************
>> >
>> > > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> > > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>> >
>> > > What’s changing?
>> >
>> > > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>> >
>> > > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>> >
>> > > What do I need to do?
>> > > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>> >
>> > > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> > > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> > > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>> >
>> > > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>> >
>> > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> > Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
>> >
>> > https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
>> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> Are you trying to tell us that Retro Guy is going to manage Usenet
No, Retro Guy manages Nova BBS, a Usenet web portal:
>> > > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>> >
>> > > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>> >
>> > > What do I need to do?
>> > > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>> >
>> > > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> > > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> > > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>> >
>> > > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>> >
>> > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> > Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
>> >
>> > https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
>> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> Are you trying to tell us that Retro Guy is going to manage Usenet
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244385&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244385
W.Dockery
Dec 23, 2023, 2:05:15 PM12/23/23
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On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 12:43:58 PM UTC-5, MummyChunk wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 20:35:00 +0000, will.d...@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote:
> > > > > RWC wrote:
>
> > > Good morning, MummyChunk, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > The newsgroup alt.arts.poetry.comments has the largest number of
> posters, hopefully JLA Forums will add it soon, as as many as a dozen
> poetry posters will be looking for a new Usenet venue in February when
> Google Groups closes.
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > > Nova BBS is poised to become the top Usenet venue (in my opinion)
> but other options are always good to have:
> > >
> > >
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> >
> > The admin team replied to me and said that they were going to add
> several of the poetry groups very soon
> Placeholder for some of the requested groups. They should be
> populated over the coming days. Please pass along for those who might
> be interested.
>
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=653
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=654
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=652
> This is a response to the post seen at:
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657662377#657662377
Outstanding!
(Moved fron another thread.)
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 20:35:00 +0000, will.d...@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote:
> > > > > RWC wrote:
>
> > > Good morning, MummyChunk, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > The newsgroup alt.arts.poetry.comments has the largest number of
> posters, hopefully JLA Forums will add it soon, as as many as a dozen
> poetry posters will be looking for a new Usenet venue in February when
> Google Groups closes.
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > > Nova BBS is poised to become the top Usenet venue (in my opinion)
> but other options are always good to have:
> > >
> > >
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> >
> > The admin team replied to me and said that they were going to add
> several of the poetry groups very soon
> Placeholder for some of the requested groups. They should be
> populated over the coming days. Please pass along for those who might
> be interested.
>
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=653
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=654
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=652
> This is a response to the post seen at:
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657662377#657662377
Outstanding!
(Moved fron another thread.)
Peter J Ross
Dec 23, 2023, 6:02:18 PM12/23/23
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On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>
> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
server, just as I used to do, and just as you never will.
In fact, you'll never do anything requiring even an elementary level of
competence, will you, Dreckwit?
--
PJR :-)
W.Dockery
Dec 23, 2023, 10:55:11 PM12/23/23
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https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013
HTH and HAND.
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General-Zod wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> "Tear in your eye."
>
says the pissbum that lives under a tarp
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>
>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>
>> >
>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>
> That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>
>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>
>> >
>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>
>
> "Tear in your eye."
>
says the pissbum that lives under a tarp
W-Dockery
Dec 25, 2023, 12:03:50 PM12/25/23
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Family Guy
Dec 25, 2023, 1:02:19 PM12/25/23
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On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> server, just as I used to do,
yea whatever happened with that
> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> server, just as I used to do,
is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
W.Dockery
Dec 25, 2023, 4:00:14 PM12/25/23
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W.Dockery
Dec 26, 2023, 12:10:12 AM12/26/23
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Fake W-Dockery forged:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Forgery and Identity theft noted ^^^^^
Forgery and Identity theft noted ^^^^^
Peter J Ross
Dec 26, 2023, 5:45:23 PM12/26/23
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Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
--
PJR :-)
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
Dec 26, 2023, 6:00:59 PM12/26/23
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As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
continuing with it.
RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?
--
PJR :-)
Cujo DeSockpuppet
Dec 26, 2023, 6:43:49 PM12/26/23
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
> On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I managed to publish a book of poetry
>
> Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to order
the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.
--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.
news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
> On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I managed to publish a book of poetry
>
> Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.
--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.
Will Dockery
Dec 26, 2023, 7:44:41 PM12/26/23
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On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:00:59 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On 2023-12-25, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Family Guy wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> >>> server, just as I used to do,
> >
> >> yea whatever happened with that
> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
> >
> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.
Why do you lie so much, PJR?
> On 2023-12-25, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Family Guy wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> >>> server, just as I used to do,
> >
> >> yea whatever happened with that
> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
> >
> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.
As far as I remember, I never even mentioned it.
IOW: Post proof or shut the fuck up.
😃
Family Guy
Dec 26, 2023, 9:38:15 PM12/26/23
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On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
> > On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
> >
> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
> Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to order
> the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
> F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
That's a very bullshit move.
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
> > On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
> >
> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
> Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to order
> the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
> F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
How would he sell them, anyway?
Have his cronies go in and buy it for him?
W.Dockery
Dec 26, 2023, 10:30:14 PM12/26/23
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
Dec 27, 2023, 4:54:35 PM12/27/23
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Family Guy <madeforz...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9fe1ca10-66b5-4f86...@googlegroups.com:
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Cujo DeSockpuppet
> wrote:
>> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
>> news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
>> > On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
>> >
>> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
>> Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to
>> order the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few
>> other F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
>
> That's a very bullshit move.
> How would he sell them, anyway?
> Have his cronies go in and buy it for him?
It happened a little before I started laughing at Edmo but I think the
idea was to boost "sales" and get some exposure at book stores. You know
we are dealing with a world class kook, right?
They would end up getting remaindered anyway. When I looked a few years
after the book came out the San Diego public libraries had something
like 15 copies. I couldn't get past the first few pages. It's that bad.
At one point he bullied the Amazon reviews pages into only keeping the 5
star reviews, many of them were Edmo's sockpuppets.
https://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Astrological-Guide-Self-Empowerment-ebo
ok/product-reviews/B077CB19BM/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewe
rType=all_reviews
At one point I gave an over the top 5 star review that lasted for months
until someone told him it was actually a bad review.
>> All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
>> forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
>> something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
>> I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.
Here you go:
"Edmo had every rewiew critical of his book on Amazon censored. It's
full of plagiarism, delusions and outright stupidity with tons of
ridiculous phrases and blatant grammatical errors. Here's a repost of
the ones that used to be on www.fatbrain.com before they figured out he
wasn't worth the disk space to host any ads for that piece of crap.
************************
submitted this review on 8/13/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Mr Wollmann has published a book that can only be called the greatest
waste of trees in the modern world.
His book is filled with gross errors, misrepresentation and lies. Mr
Wollmann has attempted to blend several new age concepts with the
ancient art of astrology and failed utterly and completely. He also
needs to hire a 1st class proof reader to correct the many spelling and
grammar errors. One person I shared my copy of the book found 12 errors
on the back cover alone. She had to resist using her red pencil, stating
her 7th grade english students had greater writing ability than Wollmann
has.
submitted this review on 8/12/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
A literary "plan 9 from outer space".
Destined to become a cult classic as "the worst book ever written", this
so-called book makes other self-published rants by insane people look
good by comparison. Here is why:
1). Kooky beliefs: There seems to be nothing Mr. Wollman does NOT
believe in. Except for astrology he also believes in ancient astronauts,
the Rosewell UFO crash, reincarnation, pyramidology, JFK assassination
conspiracies, men in black, the "philadelphia experiment", Altantis, and
more. He keeps using one fringe idea to support another : Rosewell
"proves" astrology is accuate, reincarnated spirits provide "eyewitness
testimony" that Atlantis was real, etc. (Reminds one of the old joke of
"proving" your stray dog is worth $10,000 because you gave two $5000-
dollar alley cats for it.)
2). Kooky mistakes: Mr. Wollman's grasp of *actual* facts, on the other
hand, is very flimsy. He makes elementary factual mistakes in virtually
EVERY PAGE of his book. A *very* partial list of what Mr. Wollman thinks
is true: Orion is a star; tau ceti is in taurus; the Pyramids of Gaza
are tetrahedron-shaped; the star Altair supports life; DNA looks "just
like a galaxy", go figure. Needless to say, Mr. Wollman believes he
knows more science that "all of you spinics [a Wollman-word meaning
"critic" and "spin-artist" combined."]
3). Kooky language: Mr. Wollman's book is the only one I know of which
has spelling and grammar mistakes on the BACK COVER BLURB, which gives
one an idea of how "carefully edited" this book is. As for style, Mr.
Wollman sounds like an informercial: Always obsfucate with meaningless
"big words". Why say "explains" when you can say "provides a
psychological understanding"? Why say "this book has an index" when you
can say it "contains a complete delineation guide in self-empowerment
terms"? It is virtually impossible to read one paragraph in Wollman's
book without either falling asleep of bursting out laughing.
Incidentally, Mr. Wollman is PROUD of the fact that his writings are
unreadable: he proudly proclaimed that he "got phone calls from many
readers who read my book and were baffled." Take THAT, #@#$!! critics!
4). Kooky indexes: This book has *13* indexes - one at the end of each
chapter, and a re-printing of all of them, one after another, as the
"index" at the end of the book. These indexes are the most hilarious bit
of kookery I have ever seen. They are only *approximately* in
alphabetical order (entries such as "the square" are listed in the index
under 't' for 'the' - reminds me of the Gary Larson cartoon book index
where all the cartoons were listed under 't' as "the one about the...").
They lack entries for most of the terms that are mentioned in the
chapter they supposedly "index", but include entries for words like
"the", "a", "3" and so on. (My favorite is the index for ch. 2, which
has the helpful entry "index" - which refers you to itself!) When you
actually *find* a term in this chenobyl of an "index", it *almost always
refers you to the wrong page*. See how long it takes you to find the
word "asteroid" in the text using the "helpful" page numbers given in
the index for Ch. 2, for example. Have a drink; it's going to take a
while...
5). Kooky criticisms: When Mr. Wollman was criticized about his
"book" on the internet, he became very agressive. He complained to
people's ISPs for "abusing" him (the ISP's put him in their killfiles
and laughed at him, despite his claims of "killing hundreds of accounts"
and "reporting [x] to the FBI.") He threatened to sue people for
"libeling" him and causing him "financial damage" (apprently Mr. Wollman
thinks that any negative criticism is "libel." Of course, he never sued
or will sue anyone.) He complained to amazon.com for allowing people to
post "fake" (=critical) reviews of his book. Whatever you do... if you
call Wollmann about his book, you better praise it, or he will get wewy,
wewy angwy with you.
6). Damnation by fake praise: to outdo this
"damage" the "spinics" (=critics) caused his book, (which had
nevertheless soared to the 480,000+ place on amazon.com's best-seller
list) Mr. Wollman flooded the internet book stores with made-up
"five-star" reviews of his book. Their style immediately shows that the
"amazed" reader is no other than Mr. Wollmann, but it is interesting to
look at the kind of praise he gave himself. For example, on amazon.com a
"reader" claimed Wollman's book is "better than the bible and mein
kampf" (sic!). Another "reader" claimed this book "makes losers into
winners", since he "gave Mr. Wollman's book to my little-league
ice-hockey team to read" and they improved their record. Yet another
"reader" claims that "if he only had Mr. Wollman's book 20 years ago"
the cold war would have been won long before it actually was (maybe, but
who would have won?) It all sounds SO reasonable; what's not to believe?
In conclusion, it all depends. As a "straight" book, it is a total and
umitigated failure. As a unintentional "joke" book... it is hilarious. I
actually made a few new friends reading Mr. Wollman's book in
Barnes&Noble once - I was laughing so hard people had to ask me what on
earth I was reading. Soon quite a few of the people in the store were
trying to top each other in finding the funniest overblown nonesense
they could in the book...
submitted this review on 8/11/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Gibberish, total meaningless prattle. A real waste of one tree, because
I cannot imagine too many people getting duped into buying this lousy
book unless it's for the unintentional "laugh factor". The so-called
author should give his head a shake. Then bury it, along with this awful
book.
submitted this review on 8/5/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Written in a turgid, overblown style, this self-published piece of trash
could have used a brutal editor to correct the more blatant errors in
grammar, style, and logic. Mr. Wollmann shows an uncanny grasp of the
non-sequitur, and he asserts much, without providing any supporting
evidence. His misuse of the quotes of Seth, Bashar, and Jung show he is
much better at using a scanner with which to generate text, than he is
at actually writing. Unless you're looking for a doorstop, stay away
from this vanity piece.
merc...@iwon.com submitted this review on 8/5/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
As a kooky humor master and plagerist, the author is without par, bound
to become a cult humor classic. Rarely, has any human strung together so
many big words in such an incoherant manner. Most entertaining thing
I've read since the "US Tax Codes 1937
"kfr...@sd.quik.com submitted this review on 7/18/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Editing, grammar, coherency. Those are just the basic things that this
book lacks. This book is just the worst piece of incoherent trash I have
ever read. The grammatical errors on the back cover alone should steer
anyone away from the book. (EG: "Einstein lead us") This is a
self-published vanity press book that is chock full of nonsense. The
author makes a point, then insists that other events must flow logically
because of it. That seems to be the theme of the whole book. I just
couldn't see whatever point the author was trying to make. He seems to
make up new words out of existing words by adding hyphens (dis-ease, for
instance). It attempts to combine astrology, New Age philosophies and
psychology and takes them to a new low. Suitable as a gag gift but avoid
otherwise. I only can point out the fact that there's an index after
each chapter and a complete index at the end of the book and that the
indexes point to words like 'a' as an example of just how confusing this
book truly is. There's a lot of better books on the subject. Buy those
instead. Avoid this one like the plague
submitted this review on 9/19/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
This is a Kook book masquerading as serious science. Ed Wollmann
attempts to persuade the reader they can create their own reality, that
their beliefs shape it. This is not science; this is escapism. It is
likely the author can't handle the truth of his own reality and wants to
push his incoherent fantasy beliefs onto others. In searching for Edmond
Wollmann on the Internet and seeing what others have written about him,
I may be right. I won't even get started about the LONG, RAMBLING,
INFINITE text the author sacrifices way too many hundreds of pages on.
Wollmann has a gift for saying the least with the most. This is a Kook
book; don't read.
*******************
PS: If you are going to buy this POS, buy it used. Don't give that
asshole any money."
news:9fe1ca10-66b5-4f86...@googlegroups.com:
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Cujo DeSockpuppet
> wrote:
>> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
>> news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
>> > On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
>> >
>> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
>> Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to
>> order the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few
>> other F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.
>
> That's a very bullshit move.
> How would he sell them, anyway?
> Have his cronies go in and buy it for him?
idea was to boost "sales" and get some exposure at book stores. You know
we are dealing with a world class kook, right?
They would end up getting remaindered anyway. When I looked a few years
after the book came out the San Diego public libraries had something
like 15 copies. I couldn't get past the first few pages. It's that bad.
At one point he bullied the Amazon reviews pages into only keeping the 5
star reviews, many of them were Edmo's sockpuppets.
https://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Astrological-Guide-Self-Empowerment-ebo
ok/product-reviews/B077CB19BM/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewe
rType=all_reviews
At one point I gave an over the top 5 star review that lasted for months
until someone told him it was actually a bad review.
>> All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
>> forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
>> something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
>> I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.
"Edmo had every rewiew critical of his book on Amazon censored. It's
full of plagiarism, delusions and outright stupidity with tons of
ridiculous phrases and blatant grammatical errors. Here's a repost of
the ones that used to be on www.fatbrain.com before they figured out he
wasn't worth the disk space to host any ads for that piece of crap.
************************
submitted this review on 8/13/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Mr Wollmann has published a book that can only be called the greatest
waste of trees in the modern world.
His book is filled with gross errors, misrepresentation and lies. Mr
Wollmann has attempted to blend several new age concepts with the
ancient art of astrology and failed utterly and completely. He also
needs to hire a 1st class proof reader to correct the many spelling and
grammar errors. One person I shared my copy of the book found 12 errors
on the back cover alone. She had to resist using her red pencil, stating
her 7th grade english students had greater writing ability than Wollmann
has.
submitted this review on 8/12/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
A literary "plan 9 from outer space".
Destined to become a cult classic as "the worst book ever written", this
so-called book makes other self-published rants by insane people look
good by comparison. Here is why:
1). Kooky beliefs: There seems to be nothing Mr. Wollman does NOT
believe in. Except for astrology he also believes in ancient astronauts,
the Rosewell UFO crash, reincarnation, pyramidology, JFK assassination
conspiracies, men in black, the "philadelphia experiment", Altantis, and
more. He keeps using one fringe idea to support another : Rosewell
"proves" astrology is accuate, reincarnated spirits provide "eyewitness
testimony" that Atlantis was real, etc. (Reminds one of the old joke of
"proving" your stray dog is worth $10,000 because you gave two $5000-
dollar alley cats for it.)
2). Kooky mistakes: Mr. Wollman's grasp of *actual* facts, on the other
hand, is very flimsy. He makes elementary factual mistakes in virtually
EVERY PAGE of his book. A *very* partial list of what Mr. Wollman thinks
is true: Orion is a star; tau ceti is in taurus; the Pyramids of Gaza
are tetrahedron-shaped; the star Altair supports life; DNA looks "just
like a galaxy", go figure. Needless to say, Mr. Wollman believes he
knows more science that "all of you spinics [a Wollman-word meaning
"critic" and "spin-artist" combined."]
3). Kooky language: Mr. Wollman's book is the only one I know of which
has spelling and grammar mistakes on the BACK COVER BLURB, which gives
one an idea of how "carefully edited" this book is. As for style, Mr.
Wollman sounds like an informercial: Always obsfucate with meaningless
"big words". Why say "explains" when you can say "provides a
psychological understanding"? Why say "this book has an index" when you
can say it "contains a complete delineation guide in self-empowerment
terms"? It is virtually impossible to read one paragraph in Wollman's
book without either falling asleep of bursting out laughing.
Incidentally, Mr. Wollman is PROUD of the fact that his writings are
unreadable: he proudly proclaimed that he "got phone calls from many
readers who read my book and were baffled." Take THAT, #@#$!! critics!
4). Kooky indexes: This book has *13* indexes - one at the end of each
chapter, and a re-printing of all of them, one after another, as the
"index" at the end of the book. These indexes are the most hilarious bit
of kookery I have ever seen. They are only *approximately* in
alphabetical order (entries such as "the square" are listed in the index
under 't' for 'the' - reminds me of the Gary Larson cartoon book index
where all the cartoons were listed under 't' as "the one about the...").
They lack entries for most of the terms that are mentioned in the
chapter they supposedly "index", but include entries for words like
"the", "a", "3" and so on. (My favorite is the index for ch. 2, which
has the helpful entry "index" - which refers you to itself!) When you
actually *find* a term in this chenobyl of an "index", it *almost always
refers you to the wrong page*. See how long it takes you to find the
word "asteroid" in the text using the "helpful" page numbers given in
the index for Ch. 2, for example. Have a drink; it's going to take a
while...
5). Kooky criticisms: When Mr. Wollman was criticized about his
"book" on the internet, he became very agressive. He complained to
people's ISPs for "abusing" him (the ISP's put him in their killfiles
and laughed at him, despite his claims of "killing hundreds of accounts"
and "reporting [x] to the FBI.") He threatened to sue people for
"libeling" him and causing him "financial damage" (apprently Mr. Wollman
thinks that any negative criticism is "libel." Of course, he never sued
or will sue anyone.) He complained to amazon.com for allowing people to
post "fake" (=critical) reviews of his book. Whatever you do... if you
call Wollmann about his book, you better praise it, or he will get wewy,
wewy angwy with you.
6). Damnation by fake praise: to outdo this
"damage" the "spinics" (=critics) caused his book, (which had
nevertheless soared to the 480,000+ place on amazon.com's best-seller
list) Mr. Wollman flooded the internet book stores with made-up
"five-star" reviews of his book. Their style immediately shows that the
"amazed" reader is no other than Mr. Wollmann, but it is interesting to
look at the kind of praise he gave himself. For example, on amazon.com a
"reader" claimed Wollman's book is "better than the bible and mein
kampf" (sic!). Another "reader" claimed this book "makes losers into
winners", since he "gave Mr. Wollman's book to my little-league
ice-hockey team to read" and they improved their record. Yet another
"reader" claims that "if he only had Mr. Wollman's book 20 years ago"
the cold war would have been won long before it actually was (maybe, but
who would have won?) It all sounds SO reasonable; what's not to believe?
In conclusion, it all depends. As a "straight" book, it is a total and
umitigated failure. As a unintentional "joke" book... it is hilarious. I
actually made a few new friends reading Mr. Wollman's book in
Barnes&Noble once - I was laughing so hard people had to ask me what on
earth I was reading. Soon quite a few of the people in the store were
trying to top each other in finding the funniest overblown nonesense
they could in the book...
submitted this review on 8/11/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Gibberish, total meaningless prattle. A real waste of one tree, because
I cannot imagine too many people getting duped into buying this lousy
book unless it's for the unintentional "laugh factor". The so-called
author should give his head a shake. Then bury it, along with this awful
book.
submitted this review on 8/5/00Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Written in a turgid, overblown style, this self-published piece of trash
could have used a brutal editor to correct the more blatant errors in
grammar, style, and logic. Mr. Wollmann shows an uncanny grasp of the
non-sequitur, and he asserts much, without providing any supporting
evidence. His misuse of the quotes of Seth, Bashar, and Jung show he is
much better at using a scanner with which to generate text, than he is
at actually writing. Unless you're looking for a doorstop, stay away
from this vanity piece.
merc...@iwon.com submitted this review on 8/5/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
As a kooky humor master and plagerist, the author is without par, bound
to become a cult humor classic. Rarely, has any human strung together so
many big words in such an incoherant manner. Most entertaining thing
I've read since the "US Tax Codes 1937
"kfr...@sd.quik.com submitted this review on 7/18/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
Editing, grammar, coherency. Those are just the basic things that this
book lacks. This book is just the worst piece of incoherent trash I have
ever read. The grammatical errors on the back cover alone should steer
anyone away from the book. (EG: "Einstein lead us") This is a
self-published vanity press book that is chock full of nonsense. The
author makes a point, then insists that other events must flow logically
because of it. That seems to be the theme of the whole book. I just
couldn't see whatever point the author was trying to make. He seems to
make up new words out of existing words by adding hyphens (dis-ease, for
instance). It attempts to combine astrology, New Age philosophies and
psychology and takes them to a new low. Suitable as a gag gift but avoid
otherwise. I only can point out the fact that there's an index after
each chapter and a complete index at the end of the book and that the
indexes point to words like 'a' as an example of just how confusing this
book truly is. There's a lot of better books on the subject. Buy those
instead. Avoid this one like the plague
submitted this review on 9/19/00
Skill Level: All Levels, Rating:
This is a Kook book masquerading as serious science. Ed Wollmann
attempts to persuade the reader they can create their own reality, that
their beliefs shape it. This is not science; this is escapism. It is
likely the author can't handle the truth of his own reality and wants to
push his incoherent fantasy beliefs onto others. In searching for Edmond
Wollmann on the Internet and seeing what others have written about him,
I may be right. I won't even get started about the LONG, RAMBLING,
INFINITE text the author sacrifices way too many hundreds of pages on.
Wollmann has a gift for saying the least with the most. This is a Kook
book; don't read.
*******************
PS: If you are going to buy this POS, buy it used. Don't give that
asshole any money."
Michael Pendragon
Dec 27, 2023, 6:35:14 PM12/27/23
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
Dec 27, 2023, 6:45:36 PM12/27/23
to
Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d0e5c393-a579-417f...@googlegroups.com:
They aren't all my reviews. Just the one.
news:d0e5c393-a579-417f...@googlegroups.com:
> I take it you're not a fan?
>
I'm just pointing there may be worse things than Dreckweasel.
>
They aren't all my reviews. Just the one.
W.Dockery
Dec 27, 2023, 7:00:18 PM12/27/23
to
Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
>> On 2023-12-24, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
Selected Poems 197-2019:
>
>> >> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013
>> >> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
But I've seen o evidence either way.
>> It happened a little before I started laughing at Edmo but I think the
>> idea was to boost "sales" and get some exposure at book stores. You know
>> we are dealing with a world class kook, right?
>>
>> They would end up getting remaindered anyway. When I looked a few years
>> after the book came out the San Diego public libraries had something
>> like 15 copies. I couldn't get past the first few pages. It's that bad.
>>
>> At one point he bullied the Amazon reviews pages into only keeping the 5
>> star reviews, many of them were Edmo's sockpuppets.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Astrological-Guide-Self-Empowerment-ebo
>> ok/product-reviews/B077CB19BM/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewe
>> rType=all_reviews
>>
>
W.Dockery
Dec 29, 2023, 9:40:41 AM12/29/23
to
Ash Wurthing
Dec 30, 2023, 3:22:18 AM12/30/23
to
Google Groups are not ending-- my Google Group will keep going on while Google Group's AAPC and RAP will stop and it has nothing to do with new Usenet venues...
W.Dockery
Dec 30, 2023, 3:45:18 AM12/30/23
to
Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data.. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
"Good riddance," as PJR wrote.
😃
>>
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> With new Usenet venues becoming available as well, the end of Google Groups isn't as final as it may seem.
> You didn't listen the first time did you? Was it what you like to call "gibberish" to you and you couldn't understand it?
> Google Groups are not ending-- my Google Group will keep going on while Google Group's AAPC and RAP will stop and it has nothing to do with new Usenet venues...
No, a.a.p.c. and r.a.p. will not stop, but we might not be seeing YOU posting here after the February cut off, Ash, if you decide to stop posting at that time.
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> With new Usenet venues becoming available as well, the end of Google Groups isn't as final as it may seem.
> You didn't listen the first time did you? Was it what you like to call "gibberish" to you and you couldn't understand it?
> Google Groups are not ending-- my Google Group will keep going on while Google Group's AAPC and RAP will stop and it has nothing to do with new Usenet venues...
"Good riddance," as PJR wrote.
😃
W.Dockery
Dec 30, 2023, 3:55:10 AM12/30/23
to
Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:31:45 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> As posted at the top of Google Groups. David Dalton may also be SOL.
> Hello Rachel,
Now you're obviously the confused one, Ash.
^^^^^^^
Since you brought confusion up.
HTH and HAND.
And as George J. Dance set the record straight:
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
> *************************************************************************
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
And so it goes.
😃
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:31:45 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
> Hello Rachel,
> I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now you're obviously the confused one, Ash.
^^^^^^^
Since you brought confusion up.
HTH and HAND.
And as George J. Dance set the record straight:
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
> *************************************************************************
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
😃
Will Dockery
Dec 30, 2023, 5:09:36 AM12/30/23
to
Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:31:45 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>
>>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>>
>>> As posted at the top of Google Groups. David Dalton may also be SOL.
>> Hello Rachel,
>> I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Now you're obviously the confused one, Ash.
> ^^^^^^^
> Since you brought confusion up.
> HTH and HAND.
<...>
>> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:31:45 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>
>>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>>
>>> As posted at the top of Google Groups. David Dalton may also be SOL.
>> Hello Rachel,
>> I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Now you're obviously the confused one, Ash.
> ^^^^^^^
> Since you brought confusion up.
> HTH and HAND.
So two weeks ago you were confused, until George Dance and David Dalton corrected you and set the record straight.
"We know."
😃
Family Guy
Dec 30, 2023, 1:54:25 PM12/30/23
to
People will be posting - or will at least try to post, i don't know how your spamfest narcissism trolling will go - from another location.
Google Groups will still have "ended."
I think the four brain cells that survived your drug and alcoholism are confused again. Or maybe you're just really, really stupid.
W.Dockery
Dec 31, 2023, 11:30:13 AM12/31/23
to
>>
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> With new Usenet venues becoming available as well, the end of Google Groups isn't as final as it may seem.
>
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> With new Usenet venues becoming available as well, the end of Google Groups isn't as final as it may seem.
>
> People will be posting - or will at least try to post
Probably, yes.
> Google Groups will still have "ended."
Family Guy
Dec 31, 2023, 2:06:07 PM12/31/23
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> > Google Groups will still have "ended."
> It seems so, yes.
W.Dockery
Dec 31, 2023, 4:10:15 PM12/31/23
to
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Ash Wurthing
Dec 31, 2023, 6:12:12 PM12/31/23
to
Sorry that your award is late-- that damned "made up" disability, you know-- can't prove to Google that I'm human >.<
W.Dockery
Dec 31, 2023, 9:15:14 PM12/31/23
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Family Guy wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Family Guy wrote:
>>
Since I'm not even using Google Groups now, again, it hardly matters.
HTH and HAND.
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Family Guy wrote:
>>
HTH and HAND.
Jordy C
Jan 17, 2024, 11:12:06 AMJan 17
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%
Jan 17, 2024, 11:55:36 AMJan 17
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google will be making *you* stfu real soon
Jordy C
Jan 17, 2024, 11:59:28 AMJan 17
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W.Dockery
Jan 17, 2024, 2:35:10 PMJan 17
to
Jordy C wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:55:36 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>> > On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 12:54:43 PM UTC-5, % wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:55:36 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>> > On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 12:54:43 PM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 4:47:33 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> >>>> General-Zod wrote:
>> >>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> >>> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 4:47:33 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> >>>> General-Zod wrote:
>> >>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> >>>>>> Will Docker wrote:
>
>> >>>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>> >>>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>> >>>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Tear in your eye."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> says the pissbum that lives under a tarp
>> >>>
>> >>> Zod is an outdoorsman, which is beyond the scope and abilities of a pansy like you.
>> >>>
>> >> he's a destitute pissbum, just like you are, shitstain
>> >
>> > OMG that is just mean. You should just shut up.
>> >
>> make me shut up, pissbum
>>
>> google will be making *you* stfu real soon
> That. Wasn’t me who wrote that, it was the fake “Jordy”…
Well, one thing that's hanging on are the impostor trolls.
>
>> >>>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>> >>>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>> >>>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Tear in your eye."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> says the pissbum that lives under a tarp
>> >>>
>> >>> Zod is an outdoorsman, which is beyond the scope and abilities of a pansy like you.
>> >>>
>> >> he's a destitute pissbum, just like you are, shitstain
>> >
>> > OMG that is just mean. You should just shut up.
>> >
>> make me shut up, pissbum
>>
>> google will be making *you* stfu real soon
> That. Wasn’t me who wrote that, it was the fake “Jordy”…
And so it goes.
Faraway Star
Jan 24, 2024, 3:30:08 PMJan 24
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>
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Again THX for setting the record straight again GD...!
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Will Dockery
Feb 5, 2024, 9:14:01 PMFeb 5
to
Ash Wurthing
Feb 6, 2024, 1:22:28 PMFeb 6
to
Lo7
"because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."
"Is the Usenet Still Alive?" thread
7 months ago
Surprised to see alt.arts.poetry.comments on this list. Yes it remains active, but the regular posters there[1] are for the most part the remnants who triggered the Great Poet Flight to various online (moderated) forum venues 20 years ago.
Some of those troll fights were fun. Some even involved poetry.
~~ rikroots
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158777
heh, heh, I aim to please...
W.Dockery
Feb 6, 2024, 4:30:13 PMFeb 6
to
Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:30:08 PM UTC-5, Faraway Star wrote:
>> George J. wrote:
>> >
>> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>> >
>> > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>> >
>> > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>> >
>> > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>> >
>> > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>> >
>> > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>> >
>> > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>> >
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:30:08 PM UTC-5, Faraway Star wrote:
>> George J. wrote:
>> >
>> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>> >
>> > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>> >
>> > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>> >
>> > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>> >
>> > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>> >
>> > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>> >
>> > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>> >
>> > *************************************************************************
>> >
>> > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>> >
>> > What’s changing?
>> > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>> >
>> > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>> >
>> > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>> >
>> > What do I need to do?
>> > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>> >
>> > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data.. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>> >
>> > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>> >
>> > What’s changing?
>> > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>> >
>> > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>> >
>> > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>> >
>> > What do I need to do?
>> > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>> >
>> > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> >
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary
> "Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly..."
> Lo7
> "because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."
> LOLin' -- won't be seeing you there!
That's great news, Ash.
> Lo7
> "because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."
> LOLin' -- won't be seeing you there!
:)
George J.
Feb 7, 2024, 11:25:11 AMFeb 7
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>> >
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>> >
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> Again THX for setting the record straight again GD...!
> "Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly..."
> Lo7
> "because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."
> LOLin' -- won't be seeing you there!
> "Is the Usenet Still Alive?" thread
> 7 months ago
> Surprised to see alt.arts.poetry.comments on this list. Yes it remains active, but the regular posters there[1] are for the most part the remnants who triggered the Great Poet Flight to various online (moderated) forum venues 20 years ago.
> Some of those troll fights were fun. Some even involved poetry.
> ~~ rikroots
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158777
> heh, heh, I aim to please...
After 6 years trying to take over aapc, Team Monkey appears to have decided that the grapes are too sour.
>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>> >
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> Again THX for setting the record straight again GD...!
> "Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly..."
> Lo7
> "because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."
> LOLin' -- won't be seeing you there!
> "Is the Usenet Still Alive?" thread
> 7 months ago
> Surprised to see alt.arts.poetry.comments on this list. Yes it remains active, but the regular posters there[1] are for the most part the remnants who triggered the Great Poet Flight to various online (moderated) forum venues 20 years ago.
> Some of those troll fights were fun. Some even involved poetry.
> ~~ rikroots
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158777
> heh, heh, I aim to please...
Faraway Star
Feb 7, 2024, 2:51:09 PMFeb 7
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W.Dockery
Feb 7, 2024, 4:35:16 PMFeb 7
to
:)
Faraway Star
Feb 18, 2024, 4:22:01 PMFeb 18
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>
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Yo
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
Yo keep the record straight.
W.Dockery
Feb 21, 2024, 7:15:17 PMFeb 21
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Faraway Star wrote:
> George J. wrote:
>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> George J. wrote:
>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>>
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
> Yo
> Yo keep the record straight.
JLA Forums is looking like another good replacement for Google Groups, for posting to the poetry group:
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
> Yo
> Yo keep the record straight.
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655
And so it goes.
General-Zod
Feb 21, 2024, 8:10:16 PMFeb 21
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https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
Enjoy...!
General-Zod
Feb 22, 2024, 12:55:14 AMFeb 22
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Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:00:59 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
>> >>> server, just as I used to do,
>> >
>> >> yea whatever happened with that
>> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
>> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
>> >
>> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
>> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.
> Why do you lie so much, PJR?
> As far as I remember, I never even mentioned it.
> IOW: Post proof or shut the fuck up.
> 😃
>> As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
>> years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
>> with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
>> continuing with it.
>>
>> RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
>> get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?
>>
>> --
>> PJR :-)
Good evening
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:00:59 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
>> >>> server, just as I used to do,
>> >
>> >> yea whatever happened with that
>> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
>> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
>> >
>> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
>> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.
> Why do you lie so much, PJR?
> As far as I remember, I never even mentioned it.
> IOW: Post proof or shut the fuck up.
> 😃
>> As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
>> years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
>> with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
>> continuing with it.
>>
>> RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
>> get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?
>>
>> --
>> PJR :-)
Good evening
Faraway Star
Feb 22, 2024, 5:42:53 AMFeb 22
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On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 4:03:12 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, with well-polished brass knobs on!!!
>
> Unlike all you pathetic subhuman plagiarists, paedophiles, stalkers,
> bums, drug-addicts and drunkards, who depend on the Internet for
> everything, I received the wonderful news by telephone yesterday, and
> today I'm here to celebrate.
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, and this is almost as good news as the death of a Dunce
> or a Dreckster!!!
>
>
> (Note: In case anybody's reading this who isn't a moron, I apologise for
> using Thunderbird for this post, and perhaps a few more posts. I'll be
> setting up slrn and vim as soon as I can, but I'm quite elderly
> nowadays, so it may take me a day or three.)
>
> --
> PJR :-)
And here we are on the final day....!
> On 15/12/2023 16:04, George J. Dance wrote:
> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at
> > the top of the front page: "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups
> > will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will
> > be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear.
> > Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
> > is done today."
> <whinesnip>
> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at
> > the top of the front page: "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups
> > will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will
> > be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear.
> > Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
> > is done today."
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, with well-polished brass knobs on!!!
>
> Unlike all you pathetic subhuman plagiarists, paedophiles, stalkers,
> bums, drug-addicts and drunkards, who depend on the Internet for
> everything, I received the wonderful news by telephone yesterday, and
> today I'm here to celebrate.
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, and this is almost as good news as the death of a Dunce
> or a Dreckster!!!
>
>
> (Note: In case anybody's reading this who isn't a moron, I apologise for
> using Thunderbird for this post, and perhaps a few more posts. I'll be
> setting up slrn and vim as soon as I can, but I'm quite elderly
> nowadays, so it may take me a day or three.)
>
> --
> PJR :-)
And here we are on the final day....!
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