I was able to narrow down the competition for the June award to two
posts. Though neither simulation is as spectacular as the 3-person
January simulation, both are striking enough to merit the award in the
absence of the other. I finally decided that the following post was
the more deserving of the award. Note how Gwen accused Osprey of
breaking the law, and I asked her what law she was accusing him of
breaking, and she said she wasn't accusing him of "anything" but then
contradicted herself *immediately*.
====================== begin included post
From: Gwen <bennetwitho...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Late-term abortion of healthy son of healthy woman by
Tiller
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<f3f43349-26dd-4664...@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 10, 3:13=A0pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2:59 pm, Gwen <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 10, 9:56 am, Ospre...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Lets get back to the claim you made where you said I am a felon,
>
> > You're a law-breaker.
>
> So you don't go along with IAAH?
Why do you think I have to go along with anybody else. I make my own
judgements based on what I see, read and analyze.
> =A0Just what law do you accuse Osprey
> of breaking?
I am not accusing Bobby of anything. He did INDEED break the law -
whether he was convicted or not is another story. (The department of
corrections in which he once worked was very kind to him.)
============= end of included post
The three symbols immediately preceding the @ in the message-id are
50f
Peter Nyikos
> I was able to narrow down the competition for the June award to two
> posts.
Here is a clickable (I hope) url for the winning post, which is given
in the first post to this thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/bcb67678891875df?dmode=source
The message-Id is
f3f43349-26dd-4664...@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
The three symbols immediately preceding the @ are 50f
And now, here is the way I responded to the other post. The message-ID
for the post of Fischer's to which I am replying is:
4a391751$0$1653$742e...@news.sonic.net
The three symbols immediately preceding the @ are 2ed
----------- begin included reply to Fischer
Date: Jul 7, 9:51 pm
Subject: Big Lies from Big Pond
To: alt.abortion, talk.abortion
On Jun 17, 12:18 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >> On 2009-06-12, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >And if you are still not convinced, just recall that you told me to
> >> >"fuck off and stay fucked off" when I asked you whether you are
> >> >against forced abortions, and have slandered me repeatedly for daring
> >> >to persist in asking Fischer various questions about whether he was
> >> >for or against some or all forced abortions.
> >> >So, for all your pontification, you are at best ambiguously pro-choice
> >> >by YOUR standards for the word, while Fischer is a totally unknown
> >> >quantity.
> >> >You sow what you reap, you insincere hypocrite.
> >> Quit whining at him, Phony...he's pro-choice and a parent,
> >...and so devoted to his wife (NOT) that he made her out to be a
> >rottensportabout being caught in an ignorant comment about
> >excommunications.
> You're lying. I have made no such statements. Ever.
Were you trying for below-40-IQ simulator of the month of June, Ray?
Even if you DID have such a low IQ, it should be obvious to you that I
was talking to someone different from you about him and you, and that
Patrick was clearly talking about him, etc.
You knew all along I was talking to Spartakus, and then about him, and
just wanted to flaunt your dishonesty, didn't you?
Peter Nyikos
----------------------------end of included post
Documentation on it will be posted later. If anyone believe
> I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to keep up with these
> awards.
wouldn't it be far more appropriate if you tried to keep up with all of
the outstanding matters concerning your lies, misrepresentations and
false claims?
uou know, the ones you keep running away from.
sure, it's amusing for readers to see your childlike illiteracy as you
try to lie about those you see as your usenet enemies (these see, to be
the same folks who challenge your lies), but it is probably more
relevant for you do deal with your dishonesty, whoever you are.
Speaking of below-40-IQ, you made a post yesterday and then ducked (
again ). Here again is my response to your post:
If you're that interested in my name and where I live, use Google. In the
meantime, the person who you place
so much credibility with claims that these headers belong to me. He bases
many of his accusations on it. Find one, just one is necessary, post with
these headers and a link so *all* can see, and I'll post every piece of
information you want right here on Usenet; phone number, birth date, and
Social Security number included. Remember, Google is not the only newsreader
with archives.
> From: "J" <Jvisi...@live.com>
> User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@teranews.com
--
J Young
Jvisi...@live.com
I give far MORE time to these irresponsible (and, in the case of
"lies," unsupportable) claims of yours than you deserve. Back in
1992-97, when you and your allies didn't dominate talk.abortion the
way you do now, I gave them much closer to the amount of attention
they deserve. That's one of the main things that keeps me busy--the
irresponsible allegations of you and your allies.
This latest bit of yours is irresponsible because you don't even
identify a single example of what you are talking about.
Peter Nyikos
> On Dec 3, 11:15 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <e5f566c8-f0a9-4e12-aafd-6bc73f431...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to keep up with these
> > > awards.
> >
> > wouldn't it be far more appropriate if you tried to keep up with all of
> > the outstanding matters concerning your lies, misrepresentations and
> > false claims?
>
> I give far MORE time to these irresponsible (and, in the case of
> "lies," unsupportable) claims of yours than you deserve.
as is my policy, i cut your post at your first lie.
however, for the convenience of readers and as a small way of portraying
your dishonest and characterless nature:
please note that the following listing is a very small sample of
dishonesty from the liar posting as peter nyikos.
agin note that this is an extremely small sample.
nyikos lied
In article
<6d6665b1-91d0-45cc...@s31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net>
i challenged that lie in:
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-2F9687...@news.individual.net>
nyikos2 lied
In article
<998e6e4e-703e-4342...@e25g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
nyi...@bellsouth.net wrote:
i challenged that lie in:
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-B0B974...@news.individual.net>
nyikos2 lied
In article
<a675ba47-6c24-45a4...@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
nyi...@bellsouth.net wrote:
i challenged that lie in:
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-16DD79...@news.individual.net>
nyikos2 lied
In article
<a3374477-9a4f-47df...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
nyi...@bellsouth.net wrote:
i challenged that lie in:
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-A4E9DF...@news.individual.net>
nyikos2 lied:
In article
<368b0870-3f1b-4d78...@s31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
i challenged that lie in:
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-1DC2D8...@news.individual.net>
> On Dec 3, 11:15 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <e5f566c8-f0a9-4e12-aafd-6bc73f431...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
> > wouldn't it be far more appropriate if you tried to keep up with all of
> > the outstanding matters concerning your lies, misrepresentations and
> > false claims?
>
> This latest bit of yours is irresponsible because you don't even
> identify a single example of what you are talking about.
you are a blatant liar. i have challenged dozens of your lies in direct
response to the posts containing those lies.
a n extremely small sample list follows:
> "pnyikos" <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:e5f566c8-f0a9-4e12...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>> I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to keep up
> Speaking of below-40-IQ, you made a post yesterday and then ducked (
> again ). Here again is my response to your post:
> If you're that interested in my name and where I live, use Google. In the
> meantime, the person who you place
> so much credibility with claims that these headers belong to me. He bases
> many of his accusations on it. Find one, just one is necessary, post with
> these headers and a link so *all* can see, and I'll post every piece of
> information you want right here on Usenet; phone number, birth date, and
> Social Security number included. Remember, Google is not the only
> newsreader with archives.
Here you go, "J".
Hop to it!
"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J Baker" <bi...@ass.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:18:20 -0500
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"All I know is that "J Baker" will be around a long, long time"
From: "J Young" <jyoung...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: How to catch a forging "J Young"
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:27:30 -0500
Organization: neverwrong.org
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From: "Auric Hellman" <adhe...@volcanomail.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: What could Pope Pius XII have done?
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:17:38 -0500
Organization: Justice for Lady Berg
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"q: what do a nigger and an apple got in commona: both look good hanging
from a tree"
From: "Oreo \(adh\)" <loose...@volcanomail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:18:43 -0500
Organization: Avengers
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No, I didn't think so.
LC~ Run Away J!
"Thanks to Eric Berg, I have discovered another newserver. This is a test of
my new server and my new e-mail.
You can still expect the same quality postings as before."
From: "J" <inv...@invalid.net>, nym # 287
Newsgroups: seattle.politics
Subject: My first post
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:17:30 -0500
Organization: ...and justice for all
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Misconception of what IQ is about...Oh, wait...are you referring to
what YOU said next?
>you made a post yesterday and then ducked (again ).
"Did not respond within 20 hours" does not equate to "ducked" when
someone is as busy as I am. If you are NOT doing a low-IQ simulation
here, you are even worse than Keegan in expecting me to do things on
YOUR timetable.
>Here again is my response to your post:
>
> If you're that interested in my name and where I live, use Google.
I used it to find your e-mail address, but when I sent you a CC, I got
a message from my Mail Delivery Subsystem that your mailbox was not
accepting messages from me. I'm trying it again.
>In the
> meantime, the person who you place
> so much credibility with claims that these headers belong to me.
I researched you independently of LC, following a lead provided by
Chilton, and I believe I found the same two posts I am documenting
here.
>He bases
> many of his accusations on it. Find one, just one is necessary, post with
> these headers and a link so *all* can see,
Here's a link to a racist, anti-Semitic one ("Fortunately America,
with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs. You must be thinking about the French."):
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/18394713b66f2aec?dmode=source
and here are the headers:
Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net
From: "J Baker" <b...@ass.com>
Newsgroups: seattle.politics
Subject: Re: How to catch a wild pig
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:18:20 -0500
Organization: e f berg & sons
Lines: 77
Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>
References:
<efeec250-1075-44a5...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
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Note the X-newsreader identifier. It matches the one from the SAME
THREAD, two posts later, of a post apparently from you:
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/6bd045f8b6a307e4?dmode=source
Were you using the following e-mail address at the time?
jyoung...@aol.com
That's what's in the From: line.
>and I'll post every piece of
> information you want right here on Usenet; phone number, birth date, and
> Social Security number included. Remember, Google is not the only newsreader
> with archives.
I'd appreciate any information you can give me on other archives and
how to access them. Google tends to do weird things with threads that
are more than a few hundred posts long. There is a monster thread from
the early-mid 1990's that's more than 7600 posts long in Google, and
I've never been able to penetrate it using Google although I have seen
little quotes from various posts being documented in Google.
Peter Nyikos
Do your own research, fauxNy.
I was referring to your new buddy
>
>>you made a post yesterday and then ducked (again ).
>
> "Did not respond within 20 hours" does not equate to "ducked" when
> someone is as busy as I am. If you are NOT doing a low-IQ simulation
> here, you are even worse than Keegan in expecting me to do things on
> YOUR timetable.
You started bashing me when I didn't respond within 34-35 minutes in an
earlier thread. At least I'm not hurling insults your way.
>
>>Here again is my response to your post:
>>
>> If you're that interested in my name and where I live, use Google.
>
> I used it to find your e-mail address, but when I sent you a CC, I got
> a message from my Mail Delivery Subsystem that your mailbox was not
> accepting messages from me. I'm trying it again.
>
> >In the
>> meantime, the person who you place
>> so much credibility with claims that these headers belong to me.
>
> I researched you independently of LC, following a lead provided by
> Chilton, and I believe I found the same two posts I am documenting
> here.
>
>>He bases
>> many of his accusations on it. Find one, just one is necessary, post with
>> these headers and a link so *all* can see,
Forgive me if I snip the next part. I may have been born at night but it
wasn't last night. You're changing the subject again. The issue is these
headers
From: "J" <Jvisi...@live.com>
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Complaints-To: ab...@teranews.com
> < snip unrelated matter >
>
>>and I'll post every piece of
>> information you want right here on Usenet; phone number, birth date, and
>> Social Security number included. Remember, Google is not the only
>> newsreader
>> with archives.
>
> I'd appreciate any information you can give me on other archives and
> how to access them. Google tends to do weird things with threads that
> are more than a few hundred posts long. There is a monster thread from
> the early-mid 1990's that's more than 7600 posts long in Google, and
> I've never been able to penetrate it using Google although I have seen
> little quotes from various posts being documented in Google.
>
> Peter Nyikos
If you and I ever develope a civil rapport, I will be glad to assist you
with any request I can. Up until now, corresponding with you has been like
with "The Chief Idiot". I don't like to do battle, but I will zing those who
go overboard, to the degree they earn.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
...and the first time you pull that stunt, you'll have more than a few
agencies tracking you down until you're cornered. (You've given all
appearances of being that pathologically stupid, Junkie.)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 6, Houston 3 (December 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 4 at San Antonio, 7:05
> "pnyikos" <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:ce1f7535-b83c-4f77...@v37g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 3, 12:41 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>> "pnyikos" <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:e5f566c8-f0a9-4e12...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>>> > I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to keep up
>>> Speaking of below-40-IQ,
>> Misconception of what IQ is about...Oh, wait...are you referring to
>> what YOU said next?
> I was referring to your new buddy
Speaking of sub-40 IQ's, note that "J" returned to the thread, and yet
conspiculously avoided addressing these:
"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J Baker" <bi...@ass.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:18:20 -0500
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"All I know is that "J Baker" will be around a long, long time"
From: "J Young" <jyoung...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: How to catch a forging "J Young"
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:27:30 -0500
Organization: neverwrong.org
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From: "Auric Hellman" <adhe...@volcanomail.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: What could Pope Pius XII have done?
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:17:38 -0500
Organization: Justice for Lady Berg
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"q: what do a nigger and an apple got in commona: both look good hanging
from a tree"
From: "Oreo \(adh\)" <loose...@volcanomail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:18:43 -0500
Organization: Avengers
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Why do you suppose that is?
<BFG>
And yet you have enough time to insult people (instead of providing
evidence for your past claims) and to dredge up months-old posts.
You really are a lying moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
You do realize that it establishes you to be either stupid for not
reading the context, or a liar or making a false claim about me?
No, of course not. You're a stupid asshole.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
I am free to post any information about myself that I please, idiot.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
Like this information that you *chose* to share:
J<unkie> continues to run from his quotes.
So? That's your choice. If you try to publish *my* data without my express
permission, you'll wish you had never been born, Junkie. That's reality for
you.
ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass. Your incompetence was evident at Rice
University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always be a joke, no
matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise. Inventing threats that weren't
there in the first place only proves what a delusional imbecile you really
are. That's why your called 'The Chief Idiot'.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
You're no threat to anyone but your wrecked self, Junked Young. Have fun
freezing your ass off.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (OT, December 4)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 11 vs. Peoria, 7:35
You're stupid enough to do it, not to mention you're stupid enough to accuse
everyone of posting it, Junked Young. You might could nail yourself to a
cross, even if no one could care less about your attention whoring.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
Just a coincidence it took you twelve years to "discover" my incompetence,
eh? Keep on wrapping the noose around your neck. You're approaching your
jump-off point.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> >> Speaking of below-40-IQ,
>
> > Misconception of what IQ is about...Oh, wait...are you referring to
> > what YOU said next?
>
> I was referring to your new buddy
LC and I have been going after you for some time now, Jon. But don't
assume my motives coincide with his. I want justice for you, no
matter what form it takes. I don't know whether he shares that
motive.
> >>you made a post yesterday and then ducked (again ).
>
> > "Did not respond within 20 hours" does not equate to "ducked" when
> > someone is as busy as I am. If you are NOT doing a low-IQ simulation
> > here, you are even worse than Keegan in expecting me to do things on
> > YOUR timetable.
>
> You started bashing me when I didn't respond within 34-35 minutes
There was no need to wait for a single second, since my bashing had to
do with something you had done about a MONTH earlier. I just didn't
feel like diluting my response to you about my identity by addressing
that in the same post.
>in an
> earlier thread. At least I'm not hurling insults your way.
Let's see if we can keep things that way here.
[...]
> > >In the
> >> meantime, the person who you place
> >> so much credibility with claims that these headers belong to me.
>
> > I researched you independently of LC, following a lead provided by
> > Chilton, and I believe I found the same two posts I am documenting
> > here.
>
> >>He bases
> >> many of his accusations on it. Find one, just one is necessary, post with
> >> these headers and a link so *all* can see,
>
> Forgive me if I snip the next part. I may have been born at night but it
> wasn't last night. You're changing the subject again.
I thought the issue was whether you had actually made the racist, anti-
semitic posts that these people attribute to you. What else could it
have been?
>The issue is these
> headers
>
> From: "J" <Jvisi...@live.com>
> User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@teranews.com
I don't see how they are relevant to anything, unless they have to do
with an "Eric Berg" controversy in which you exposed what looks a lot
like a forgery. But I couldn't see any real evidence that the forger,
if it was a forgery, was LC.
> > < snip unrelated matter >
I'm sorry, but if ever you are to be exonerated of racism and anti-
semitism, this is the place to start: did you write the following, or
is it a forgery?
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/6bd045f8b6a307e4?dmode=source
Is the e-mail address "jyoung...@aol.com" one that you were using
at that time?
> >>and I'll post every piece of
> >> information you want right here on Usenet; phone number, birth date, and
> >> Social Security number included. Remember, Google is not the only
> >> newsreader
> >> with archives.
>
> > I'd appreciate any information you can give me on other archives and
> > how to access them. Google tends to do weird things with threads that
> > are more than a few hundred posts long. There is a monster thread from
> > the early-mid 1990's that's more than 7600 posts long in Google, and
> > I've never been able to penetrate it using Google although I have seen
> > little quotes from various posts being documented in Google.
>
> > Peter Nyikos
>
> If you and I ever develope a civil rapport, I will be glad to assist you
> with any request I can.
I've done my best to remain civil in this post.
Peter Nyikos
I've changed the subject line from the totally baseless and
unsupported lie that Fisher posted, calling me the winner of something
for which he hasn't even claimed to provide evidence.
> And yet you have enough time to insult people
That's your ethically nihilistic term for exposing lies and hypocrisy,
most of which consist of trumped-up charges of lying and hypocrisy
leveled at me (and Osprey and Mosco, to a much lesser extent) like a
hailstorm by the likes of you.
>(instead of providing
> evidence for your past claims)
IN ADDITION TO providing evidence for my past claims, you pathological
liar.
>and to dredge up months-old posts.
What's your description of people like Spartakus who dredged up a 17-
year old post, from a time he wasn't even posting to Usenet (unless he
is Chris Lyman under a *nom de guerre*)?
"Wonderful people, because they are on MY side." Did I get that
right?
> You really are a lying moron.
You really have no basis for making such a charge--unless your sense
of morality is so warped that you equate "lying" with saying
unpleasant things about people you care for, and "moron" for anyone
who doesn't see you as a valuable asset to the abortion newsgroups.
Peter Nyikos
Yes, and I've got mountains of evidence, a lot of it from 1992-1997,
to back that up.
> Inventing threats that weren't
> there in the first place only proves what a delusional imbecile you really
> are. That's why your called 'The Chief Idiot'.
And that, and the fact that he is full of bluster, is why I called him
a "Sanguinary Hemophiliac" last night. Sanguinary on account of the
bluster, Hemophiliac because he bleeds the word "threat" at the
slightest scratch, and accuses me of trying to control the content of
Usenet when I actually do far less in the direction of "controlling"
than he and his allies.
IAAH also fills the bill. He bled profusely at the word "libel" even
though he could show no example of me having charged him with it, and
again at the word "bigot" which I backed up on three separate
occasions, and which HE used against ME at the drop of a hat, and he
showers me with insults at the slightest pretext.
Peter Nyikos
Any time The Chief Idiot uses this term, a red flag should go up in
the reader's mind to check whether at least one of the things
sarcastically claimed to be part of the coincidence is actually FALSE.
>it took you twelve years to "discover" my incompetence,
> eh?
Note the weasel word "eh?" I think even this Sanguinary Hemophiliac
suspects that "J" discovered his incompetence long ago.
Note how he is illustrating the "Sanguinary" part of the description
below:
>Keep on wrapping the noose around your neck. You're approaching
your
> jump-off point.
That depends very much on how he responds to the life preserver I've
tossed to him, in the form of a question about whether an
incriminating post was a forgery.
He's spurned such life preservers in the past, so you may actually be
right.
Peter Nyikos
> On Dec 4, 1:16 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to keep up with these
> > >awards.
>
> I've changed the subject line from the totally baseless and
> unsupported lie that Fisher posted
as is my practice, i have deleted your post at your first lie.
> > Just a coincidence
> Any time The Chief Idiot uses this term, a red flag should go up
> in the reader's mind to check whether at least one of the things
> sarcastically claimed to be part of the coincidence is actually
> FALSE.
Because one of the defining attributes of SARCASM, after all, is its
rigorous adherence to empirical facts.
> > it took you twelve years to "discover" my incompetence, eh?
> Note the weasel word "eh?"
So this is what the toothless wingnut claiming to be Peter Nyikos is
reduced to - masticating furiously and futilely over throwaway, two-
letter interjections like "eh". When he's through sucking the juice
out of that piece of gristle, there's "um", "oh", and the ever-popular
"ha". And then he can move on to bigger interjections like "huh",
"cripes" and "sheesh".
FauxNy better move quickly because I can't wait for him to claim that
Patrick is Canadian, as he did with Dean Kaflowitz.
Actions Speak Louder Than Words Department:
Keegan posted neither a basis nor support for Fischer's [sorry about
the typo] lie, yet he had the chutzpah to allege:
> as is my practice, i have deleted your post at your first lie.
Not always, not by a long shot, even by YOUR own warped standards: I
caught you making a huge exception on the thread, "Evidence that
Keegan is a fruitcake, a sociopath, and a sicko".
Peter Nyikos
You never, not ever, managed to show that my
purported bigotry was any such thing. Why keep
lying about it?
And whining about being insulted - well, it's not
going to make it stop. Don't act in a manner that
deserves insults (not lying comes to mind).
--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
-Bertrand Russell
Spartakus is, for having commented on a bit of chaff from my post
while ignoring the grain of wheat above, and casting the rest of the
wheat to the winds.
If he is actually Chris Lyman under a *nom de guerre* he might even
remember that I used this figure of speech against Margolis. He might
even remember how Keegan was so paranoid during the Mother of All
Flamewars that he accused me of being a staunch ally of Margolis.
[Lyman-clone dissertation on chaff deleted]
> FauxNy better move quickly because I can't wait for him to claim that
> Patrick is Canadian, as he did with Dean Kaflowitz.
Trivia: one of the longest rivers in Texas is called the Canadian
River. If Humphrey ever lived on that river, that's probably the
closest he came to deserving the title "Canadian."
More trivia: Kaflowitz quit the abortion newsgroups long before
"Spartakus" reared his ugly head on them.
Peter Nyikos
>> > On Dec 3, 12:41 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> >> Speaking of below-40-IQ,
>> > Misconception of what IQ is about...Oh, wait...are you referring to
>> > what YOU said next?
>> I was referring to your new buddy
> LC and I have been going after you for some time now, Jon. But don't
> assume my motives coincide with his. I want justice for you, no
> matter what form it takes. I don't know whether he shares that
> motive.
Absolutely.
You tell me what "justice" would be for a racist, schizophrenic
cyberstalker?
<snip>
> I thought the issue was whether you had actually made the racist, anti-
> semitic posts that these people attribute to you. What else could it
> have been?
Note that "J" *never* has an answer for these:
"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J Baker" <bi...@ass.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:18:20 -0500
Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>
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"All I know is that "J Baker" will be around a long, long time"
From: "J Young" <jyoung...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: How to catch a forging "J Young"
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:27:30 -0500
Organization: neverwrong.org
Message-ID: <1fetv2....@news.alt.net>
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From: "Auric Hellman" <adhe...@volcanomail.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: What could Pope Pius XII have done?
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:17:38 -0500
Organization: Justice for Lady Berg
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"q: what do a nigger and an apple got in commona: both look good hanging
from a tree"
From: "Oreo \(adh\)" <loose...@volcanomail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:18:43 -0500
Organization: Avengers
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Why do you suppose that is?
>>The issue is these
>> headers
>> From: "J" <Jvisi...@live.com>
>> User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> X-Complaints-To: ab...@teranews.com
> I don't see how they are relevant to anything, unless they have to do
> with an "Eric Berg" controversy in which you exposed what looks a lot
> like a forgery. But I couldn't see any real evidence that the forger,
> if it was a forgery, was LC.
"J" has been using Teranews and XanaNews for his forging/stalking as of
late. Does this look familiar?:
"We, the Bergs, fall into that catagory of 28 percent who have claimed
more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. Does this mean that we'll
never be officially husband and 'wife'?"
From: "Eric&Marcia" <ericand...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gays are incapable of 'marriage'
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization: Young Republicans
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
Message-ID: <GFvTm.67101$rE5....@newsfe08.iad>
X-Complaints-To: ab...@teranews.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:03:34 UTC
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:03:34 GMT
As recently as moments ago, he was forging a poster he's been having an
issue with recently:
"Damn spear-chuckers! If they ain't screwing my teenage daighter,
they're screwing each other in the ass. Shoot them all."
From: "Lefty" <lefty...@netscape.com>
Subject: Re: Queers In Mother Africa Ain't Doing So Well
Newsgroups: alt.politics.obama,ca.politics,alt.politics.homosexuality
References: <4b1facd4...@news.usenetmonster.com>
Organization: "Thank heaven for little girls"
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:28:09 GMT
Compare and contrast with these, posted under his usual nym:
"Purple with rage", and "Thanks for the show, cocksucker" must be the two
phrases you must hear most often coming upstairs from your basement as your
friends take turns ravaging your daughter. You should be ashamed of yourself
, Lefty, letting your gang of perverts do such a thing to your own flesh and
blood."
From: "J" <Jvis...@live.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism,seattle.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: Extra! J Young lets it all hang out and posts the truth about
Lefty's daughter
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:00:40 -0500
Organization: ...and justice for all
Message-ID: <3ag6bn....@news.alt.net>
"Yet you place your daughter's resume` on Usenet for all to witness. Are you
her daddy or pimp? For her sake it should be pimp. Afterall, you've done
more as a pimp to market her STD infected genitals than you have as a father
protecting her reputation."
From: "J" <Jvis...@live.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism,seattle.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: Extra! J Young lets it all hang out and posts the truth about
Lefty's daughter
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:25:28 -0500
Organization: ...and justice for all
Message-ID: <3agban....@news.alt.net>
LC~ If anyone really thinks that sociopathic "J" isn't behind all of the
above, I have a bridge for sale, cheap.
"I currently have 17 different news servers on 'my favorites' list. Add to
this the fact that I can also open an account with Google under however
many e-mail addresses I can conjure...You will *never* be rid of me until I
decide I want to go."
From: "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4738a772$0$13174$b9f67...@news.newsdemon.com>
> On Dec 9, 1:11 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2979af64-dc04-434b-9b60-ea9220bc8...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> > > I've changed the subject line from the totally baseless and
> > > unsupported lie that Fisher posted
>
> > as is my practice, i have deleted your post at your first lie.
> Actions Speak Louder Than Words Department
are you referring to your lie about fischer?
Your "mountains" don't amount to an anthill, Phoney...but thanks for
admitting your not so secret obsession of playing KGB.
>> Inventing threats that weren't there in the first place only proves what
>> a delusional imbecile you really are. That's why your called 'The Chief
>> Idiot'.
>
> And that, and the fact that he is full of bluster, is why I called him a
> "Sanguinary Hemophiliac" last night. Sanguinary on account of the
> bluster, Hemophiliac because he bleeds the word "threat" at the slightest
> scratch, and accuses me of trying to control the content of Usenet when I
> actually do far less in the direction of "controlling" than he and his
> allies.
>
> IAAH also fills the bill. He bled profusely at the word "libel" even
> though he could show no example of me having charged him with it, and
> again at the word "bigot" which I backed up on three separate
> occasions, and which HE used against ME at the drop of a hat, and he
> showers me with insults at the slightest pretext.
>
> Peter Nyikos
No one with sense will fall for your whinings, Phony. I don't speak for
anyone in your supposed "cozy clique", who are a collection of individuals
who have little respect for your antics...but if you're that intent on being
relegated to irrelevance, that's your problem.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
Quit whining, Paranoid Phony. You're on your way to being a fraud.
>> it took you twelve years to "discover" my incompetence, eh?
>
> Note the weasel word "eh?" I think even this Sanguinary Hemophiliac
> suspects that "J" discovered his incompetence long ago.
You don't think, Failure Phony. If you're that senile, I hate to see what
you're doing to your institution's standards.
> Note how he is illustrating the "Sanguinary" part of the description
> below:
Not that you're the increasingly obsessive kook who thinks he's my moral
superior.
> >Keep on wrapping the noose around your neck. You're approaching your
> >jump-off point.
>
> That depends very much on how he responds to the life preserver I've
> tossed to him, in the form of a question about whether an incriminating
> post was a forgery.
>
> He's spurned such life preservers in the past, so you may actually be
> right.
I won't be surprised at all if I'm right and you're still the pedantic twit
you evolved into. Time will tell.
Get the bloody fuck over your idiocy of that era and get on with spending
more time in reality.
> [Lyman-clone dissertation on chaff deleted]
>
>> FauxNy better move quickly because I can't wait for him to claim that
>> Patrick is Canadian, as he did with Dean Kaflowitz.
>
> Trivia: one of the longest rivers in Texas is called the Canadian River.
> If Humphrey ever lived on that river, that's probably the closest he came
> to deserving the title "Canadian."
Never mind that Dale and I spent a week in Canada, a decade and change
ago...and the Canadian one of the *longest* rivers in Texas? It's shorter
than the Red, the Colorado, the Nueces, the Sabine, the Brazos, the Trinity,
and Rio Bravo del Norte (Rio Grande) inside the Republic.
> More trivia: Kaflowitz quit the abortion newsgroups long before
> "Spartakus" reared his ugly head on them.
...which, like your whining, is meaningless. No one cares for your
obsession with your selected delusions.
He's already gone one step towards that, and proclaiming that the Canadian
is the longest river in Texas...too bad there are seven or eight other
rivers that are in Texas that have far more mileage within the former
Republic. Phony's failing again, as usual.
> > > > Just a coincidence
> > > Any time The Chief Idiot uses this term, a red flag should go up
> > > in the reader's mind to check whether at least one of the things
> > > sarcastically claimed to be part of the coincidence is actually
> > > FALSE.
> > Because one of the defining attributes of SARCASM, after all, is its
> > rigorous adherence to empirical facts.
> > > > it took you twelve years to "discover" my incompetence, eh?
> > > Note the weasel word "eh?"
> > So this is what the toothless wingnut
> Spartakus is, for having  commented on a bit of chaff from my post
> while ignoring the grain of wheat above, and casting the rest of the
> wheat to the winds.
They make a really great cat litter out of wheat these days. Just the
thing for your cocktail weenies!
[--Nyikos-like avoiding the point deleted--]
> >> ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass. Your incompetence was evident
> >> at Rice University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always
> >> be a joke, no matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise.
> > Yes, and I've got mountains of evidence, a lot of it from 1992-1997,
> > to back that up.
> Your "mountains" don't amount to an anthill, Phoney...but thanks for
> admitting your not so secret obsession of playing KGB.
Jeepers! I missed that lie!
He's got a lot of cocktail weenies, that one does.
I changed it to reflect the truth.
>> And yet you have enough time to insult people
>
>That's your ethically nihilistic term for exposing lies and hypocrisy,
Q.E.D.
> >(instead of providing
>> evidence for your past claims)
>
>IN ADDITION TO providing evidence for my past claims
That would imply that you had already done so when, in fact, whgat you
actually do is post tons of irrelevant nonsense without actually
identiying evidence that supports your claims.
>>and to dredge up months-old posts.
>
>What's your description of people like Spartakus who dredged up a 17-
Whining about what other people supposedly do really does not alter
the case against you in the slightest. Further, he isn't the one
whining that he doesn't have time to address claims while you are.
>> You really are a lying moron.
>
>You really have no basis for making such a charge
Except for the fact that you're a lying moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
He's about as relevant as the no longer existent Committee for State
Security, which shut down eighteen years ago.
The KGB is more the style of Spartakus. I think I already commented
way back in March that he would make a great interrogator of any
American soldier captured by the enemy in Iran -- and now Afghanistan
seems to be an even more promising place for him. He can carry such
conviction when he claims people did things (or not did things, like
Patrick posting that stalking was a factor in his being fired at Rice)
that a POW subjected to that kind of thing days on end might actually
come to believe he did things he never did, or never did things that
he did do.
> Jeepers! I missed that lie!
How would you know whether it is true or false, unless you really are
Chris Lyman or someone else who was posting at the time? Do you claim
to have made a thorough search of all my posts in the Google
archives?
Or are you so much in love with Patrick that you take his unsupported
word for what he says here?
> He's got a lot of cocktail weenies, that one does.
Prove it. You haven't even come close so far.
Peter Nyikos
> On Dec 9, 10:43 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass. Your incompetence was evident
>>>>> at Rice University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always
>>>>> be a joke, no matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise.
>>>> Yes, and I've got mountains of evidence, a lot of it from 1992-1997,
>>>> to back that up.
>>> Your "mountains" don't amount to an anthill, Phoney...but thanks for
>>> admitting your not so secret obsession of playing KGB.
>
> The KGB is more the style of Spartakus.
notice how the person posting as peter nyikos responds to a comment by
patrick to attack spartacus. apparently, he/she feels far, far too
inferior to spartacus to make such a comment directly.
...and s/he is definitely not The Delaware Prison Babysitter of the Year.
;-)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Rockford 1 (December 13)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, December 15 at Texas, 4:05
While you prefer the Gestapo?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
> > > >> ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass. Your incompetence was evident
> > > >> at Rice University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always
> > > >> be a joke, no matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise.
> > > > Yes, and I've got mountains of evidence, a lot of it from 1992-1997,
> > > > to back that up.
> > > Your "mountains" don't amount to an anthill, Phoney...but thanks for
> > > admitting your not so secret obsession of playing KGB.
> The KGB is more the style ofSpartakus. Â I think I already commented
> way back in March that he would make a great interrogator of any
> American soldier captured by the enemy in Iran -- and now Afghanistan
> seems to be an even more promising place for him. Â He can carry such
> conviction when he claims people did things (or not did things, like
> Patrick posting that stalking was a factor in his being fired at Rice)
> that a POW subjected to that kind of thing days on end might actually
> come to believe he did things he never did, or never did things that
> he did do.
You have a good rant going - lots of Bill Kristol-style war
fantasizing and some juicy Glenn Beck-style paranoia. Try working in
some references to "Precious Bodily Fluids" and "Purity Of Essence", a
la General Jack T. Ripper. That should burnish your credentials as a
paranoid loon to a fare-thee-well!
> > Jeepers! Â I missed that lie!
> How would you know whether it is true or false, unless you really are
> Chris Lyman or someone else who was posting at the time? Â Do you
> claim to have made a thorough search of all  my posts in the Google
> archives?
I've known Patrick for years, dummy.
> > He's got a lot of cocktail weenies, that one does.
> Prove it.
Koltanowski (sp?) Sanction invoked until you get caught up on
documenting your claims.
Ah! Here's someone who knows the classics!
>That should burnish your credentials as a
> paranoid loon to a fare-thee-well!
>
>> > Jeepers! Â I missed that lie!
>
>> How would you know whether it is true or false, unless you really are
>> Chris Lyman or someone else who was posting at the time? Â Do you claim
>> to have made a thorough search of all  my posts in the Google archives?
>
> I've known Patrick for years, dummy.
>
>> > He's got a lot of cocktail weenies, that one does.
>
>> Prove it.
>
> Koltanowski (sp?) Sanction invoked until you get caught up on
> documenting your claims.
--
huge: Not on my time you don't.
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:27:35 -0500, james g keegan jr <jgke...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 2009-12-14 17:01:09 -0500, pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> said:
> >
> >> On Dec 9, 10:43 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >>> The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>>> "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass. Your incompetence was evident
> >>>>>> at Rice University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always
> >>>>>> be a joke, no matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise.
> >>>>> Yes, and I've got mountains of evidence, a lot of it from 1992-1997,
> >>>>> to back that up.
> >>>> Your "mountains" don't amount to an anthill, Phoney...but thanks for
> >>>> admitting your not so secret obsession of playing KGB.
> >>
> >> The KGB is more the style of Spartakus.
> >
> > notice how the person posting as peter nyikos responds to a comment by
> > patrick to attack spartacus. apparently, he/she feels far, far too
> > inferior to spartacus to make such a comment directly.
>
> ...and s/he is definitely not The Delaware Prison Babysitter of the Year.
> ;-)
perhaps the person posting as peter nyikos is babysitting the
"professor?"
It might could be, but Oopsey hasn't shown much evidence of being able to do
that from a few hundred miles away.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Texas 2 (December 15)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 16 vs. San Antonio, 7:05
hmmmm . ..
> It might could be, but Oopsey hasn't shown much evidence of being able to do
> that from a few hundred miles away.
But do we really know just where he is now, since he's blissfully MIA?
> --
> Â Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
>    www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â LAST GAME: Â Houston 5, Texas 2 (December 15)
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â NEXT GAME: Â Wednesday, December 16 vs. San Antonio, 7:05- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Considering the four photos I put up on a page illustrating Keegan's
"presence: in this city, I'd be a bit surprised if he actually ventured into
this county (and the other nine counties that are the rest of the
metropolitan are, and are a bit larger than his postage stamp of a state).
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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LAST GAME: Houston 2, San Antonio 1 (OT, December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 18 vs. Texas, 7:05
> On Dec 5, 10:26 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
[...]
> > Just a coincidence
>
> Any time The Chief Idiot uses this term, a red flag should go up in
> the reader's mind to check whether at least one of the things
> sarcastically claimed to be part of the coincidence is actually FALSE.
is it a coincidence that you, having beeb challenged on several dozen of
your lies, find time to try to smear patrick rather than to deal with
the challenges to your lies?
If it is, he deserves the opinions I have of his act. If not, then he's
getting feeble in his old age.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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LAST GAME: Texas 5, Houston 2 (December 18)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, December 20 vs. Grand Rapids, 4:05
Why do you keep saying, "the person posting as peter nyikos?" Are you from
some weird religious cult where you are forbidden from using his real name
or face eternal damnation?
You're still too stupid to read and understand what he said? Sucks with a
vengeance to be *you*, Blobby the (former) Prison Babysitter.
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Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 30 at Chicago, 7:05
Ahhhh...Patrick. Now you have attracted my interest. Care to post evidence
to prove your claim. Of course, if you can't, I'll have to say (in the words
of the immortal James G. Keegan, Jr.) that you're lying.
...and of course, you won't bother to prove your assertion, as per your SOP.
You've all the consistency of a stopped clock.
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Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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NEXT GAME: Friday, January 1 at Milwaukee, 6:05
Hummmm........ I don't seem to be seeing Bobby's original posts. I
wonder if it is something he is doing ( he hates it when I reply to
his posts) or if it is just my newsserver puking when it whiffs his
fingerprints on a post??
Tom S.
It could be, but there's another Bobby (Coyle) that was a pest more than a
few years ago, and the ex-prison guard couldn't feign literacy enough to
impersonate anyone else.
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Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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LAST GAME: Rockford 5, Houston 4 (OT, December 31)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 1 at Milwaukee, 7:05
I cannot realize something that is demonstrably false.
> No, of course not.
You got THAT part right.
[And i wouldn't put it past you or Keegan to delete the line beginning
with "I cannot," and to congratulate me for finally admitting to lying
or stupidity. It's just your style to indulge in such shameless
dishonesty.]
> >----------- begin included reply to Fischer
[fewer than the number of > marks in the next line signify
interpolations]
> >Date: Jul 7, 9:51 pm
> >Subject: Big Lies from Big Pond
> >To: alt.abortion, talk.abortion
>
> >On Jun 17, 12:18 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> > The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 2009-06-12, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
...something I had the occasion to recall in the wee hours of the
morning, yesterday:
> >> >> >And if you are still not convinced, just recall that you told me to
> >> >> >"fuck off and stay fucked off" when I asked you whether you are
> >> >> >against forced abortions, and have slandered me repeatedly for daring
> >> >> >to persist in asking Fischer various questions about whether he was
> >> >> >for or against some or all forced abortions.
.
> >> >> >So, for all your pontification, you are at best ambiguously pro-choice
> >> >> >by YOUR standards for the word, while Fischer is a totally unknown
> >> >> >quantity.
> >> >> >You sow what you reap, you insincere hypocrite.
.
> >> >> Quit whining at him, Phony...he's pro-choice and a parent,
>
> >> >...and so devoted to his wife (NOT) that he made her out to be a
> >> >rotten sport about being caught in an ignorant comment about
> >> >excommunications.
>
> >> You're lying. I have made no such statements. Ever.
YOU are the one who totally ignored the context, as you can see,
Arschloch Fischer, and I wouldn't put it past you to lie through your
teeth about the things that are in plain sight now, and delete the
evidence.
> >Were you trying for below-40-IQ simulator of the month of June, Ray?
> >Even if you DID have such a low IQ, it should be obvious to you that I
> >was talking to someone different from you about him and you, and that
> >Patrick was clearly talking about him, etc.
>
> >You knew all along I was talking to Spartakus, and then about him, and
> >just wanted to flaunt your dishonesty, didn't you?
>
> >Peter Nyikos
> >----------------------------end of included post
I stand by what I said, you pathological liar. You are a serious
competitor for "Pathological Liar of the Year (2009)" on the basis of
posts like this, where you repeatedly flaunt your dishonesty. The
race for the dubious distinction is so tight, it'll probably take
several more months for me to announce the winner.
Peter Nyikos
Liar it is, then. You obviously realized that you didn't get away with
lying about me and so you decided to wait two months before piling on
more lies to cover your ass.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
>Liar it is, then.
No, only "Low-IQ-Simulator" is what I was, unintentionally: I lost
sight of what the referent was, and so in a fit of absent-mindedness I
applied what you wrote to what YOU had written and I had documented
further down in the post. I have an open-and-shut case against you on
that one, and so naturally you deleted it this time around.
What I should actually have addressed is the issue of whether Gwen
did a low-IQ simulation when she accused Osprey of having committed a
crime right after claiming "I am not accusing Osprey of anything."
She had also accused him of one in the preceding post.
So, Ray, if you want to nominate me for "Below - __- IQ simulator of
the month (Feb 2010) ... oh, wait, I am overlooking something
below...
>You obviously realized that you didn't get away with
> lying about me
Ah...wait...yes...it looks like YOU also thought you had been talking
about what I had said about YOU rather than about Gwen. So I think
the fairest thing to do is to nominate our respective performances for
one award, "Below-__-IQ Simulation of the Month (Feb 2010)" and if
NEITHER of us can find a better example in the rest of February, we
share the award between the two of us.
And here I thought you were being altruistic and sacrificing yourself
for Gwen. I probably should have known better--you've always come
across as being highly self-centered, taking revenge of Lamechian
proportions for slights, whether deserved or not.
>and so you decided to wait two months before piling on
> more lies to cover your ass.
The explanation for the 2 month delay is that I was looking for
threads where Keegan had posted his infamous "5 lies that weren't
lies" post [I've found 8 so far, most of them having the same wording
in the substantive part, down to the misspelling "agin" for "again".
But I arrived here a couple of hours late, the 60 day deadline in
Google for replies had expired, so I thought I'd hit something on this
thread that still hadn't expired, and your number came up first.
If I had waited even this long, I would have missed my chance--your
post to which I replied has expired for over an hour by now.
Haste makes waste. But at least the waste is entertaining.
Peter Nyikos
....something which has a potential for causing a lot of confusion, so
I'd better anticipate it by explaining...
> On Feb 2, 12:18 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >On Dec 4 2009, 2:16 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >> >On Dec 3, 9:43 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> I was able to narrow down the competition for the June award to two
> > >> >> posts.
>
> > >> >Here is a clickable (I hope) url for the winning post, which is given
> > >> >in the first post to this thread.
Now comes a statement by Fischer which can be interpreted in a number
of ways.
> > >> You do realize that it establishes you to be either stupid for not
> > >> reading the context, or a liar or making a false claim about me?
One COULD read this as saying that the false claim about Fischer is
that he is merely the one deserving the "first runner-up" award for
"Below-40-IQ Simulator of the Month (June 2009)" whereas the reality
is that he has beat Gwen out by a country mile. To be consistent with
this, the rest of Fischer's sentence should then be interpreted as
Fischer claiming that I am stupid for not reading the context of what
Gwen was saying, or a liar for ...well, one of two possible reasons or
both...
But in my first reply today that possibility did not even occur to me,
while in my second reply I discounted that possibility because the
last "or" doesn't sit well in the sentence this way; it should have
been replaced by ", and"
And so, the first time I [mis?]read the whole sentence as applying to
what Fischer had written in what I've been calling "the first runner-
up" and the second time I [mis?]read it as applying purely to what
Gwen had written, with Fischer having forgotten in the intervening two
months what he had been referring to.
With this in mind, everything falls into place below.
...even more entertaining than I thought at first, at least for me.
> >>>> If you're that interested in my name and where I live, use Google. In
> >>>> the
> >>>> meantime, the person who you place so much credibility with claims that
> >>>> these headers belong to me. He bases many of his accusations on it.
> >>>> Find
> >>>> one, just one is necessary, post with these headers and a link so *all*
> >>>> can see, and I'll post every piece of information you want right here
> >>>> on
> >>>> Usenet; phone number, birth date, and Social Security number included.
I guess I never did figure out just which kind of "one" post you were
referring to here, Jon. I see my most natural guess was wrong. What
did "these headers" refer to, anyway?
> >>>> Remember, Google is not the only newsreader with archives.
>
> >>> ...and the first time you pull that stunt, you'll have more than a few
> >>> agencies tracking you down until you're cornered. (You've given all
> >>> appearances of being that pathologically stupid, Junkie.)
>
> >> I am free to post any information about myself that I please, idiot.
>
> > So? That's your choice. If you try to publish *my* data without my
> > express
> > permission, you'll wish you had never been born, Junkie. That's reality
> > for you.
>
> ROTFL!!!! You scare no one, jackass.
He sure sounds like all bark and no bite. Of course, that might
depend on what "*my* data" refers to.
>Your incompetence was evident at Rice
> University and nothing has changed since then. You'll always be a joke, no
> matter who you convince on Usenet otherwise. Inventing threats that weren't
> there in the first place only proves what a delusional imbecile you really
> are. That's why your called 'The Chief Idiot'.
>
> --
> J Young
> Jvisi...@live.com
Well, Jon, I haven't seen a post by you since Dec. 31 but I posted
this on the off chance that you might see it anyway. You have been
behaving towards me like the proverbial cat that got burned so badly
by sitting on a hot stove that she won't sit on a cold stove any
more. That is, you've been thinking it's no use to give straight Yes
or No answers to my questions because I won't believe them anyway.
While that is true in a very strict literal sense, I'd consider either
one to be a GREAT first step towards answering the burning question:
are all racist, etc. abominations attributed to you forgeries by
someone else?
You have a huge uphill battle to try to show this, but on the other
hand the evidence that many of them are due to you doesn't seem quite
as airtight as I first thought. So don't give up on me--if you are
innocent, that is.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
Ph.D. Carnegie-Mellon University, 1971
> On Dec 4 2009, 2:16 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >On Dec 3, 9:43 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> I was able to narrow down the competition for the June award to two
> > >> posts.
> >
> > >Here is a clickable (I hope) url for the winning post, which is given
> > >in the first post to this thread.
> >
> > You do realize that it establishes you to be either stupid for not
> > reading the context, or a liar or making a false claim about me?
>
> I cannot realize something that is demonstrably false.
i'll take that as your admission that you were lying.
Stop lying.
> I lost
>sight of what the referent was, and so in a fit of absent-mindedness I
Too late for bullshit excuses, pro-liar.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
So the senile asshole, caught lying once already, decides to follow up
to his own post in order to pile on more lies.
>> > >> You do realize that it establishes you to be either stupid for not
>> > >> reading the context, or a liar or making a false claim about me?
>
>One COULD read this as saying that the false claim about Fischer is
One COULD read it just as written, asshole.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net