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Joe Valinoti

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Aug 10, 2025, 8:36:27 PMAug 10
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vanessaajoness5664:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group. Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, what and where it is.
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Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
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I’d love to be part of the group and contribute to the conversations.

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Joe Valinoti

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lbartulovic:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  If you are looking for a Nonsuch, the best place is the INA website’s boat listing page.  Please note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat (if you have one), what it is and where it lies.
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Joe Valinoti
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Looking to purchase a Nonsuch.

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Joe Valinoti

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Aug 13, 2025, 6:48:38 AMAug 13
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shirleycheung2:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  Congrats on your purchase.  Ask away.  Note how we sign each post with our name, where the boat lies and other particulars.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 10:06 PM
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I am in the process of buying a Nonsuch 30C 1983. Marine survey to be done in 2 days. I have few questions to ask. Thanks, Shirley

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Shirley Cheung, Nonsuch 30C, Toronto, Ontario

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Aug 14, 2025, 1:09:31 AMAug 14
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Hello all,

Thanks so much for accepting me in the group!
As I said, I am in the process of buying the Nonsuch 30C and marine survey will be done in 2 days. I am super excited about it!!
I do want to ask is the HOT WATER ON-DEMAND PALOMA tankless in the head. The boat I am interested is has it and is it dangerous to use ? I am quite apprehended about using propane.. do you all have CO or GAS defectors near the bilge area? How to make sure there is no gas leakage...

Thanks for your comments and input! Looking forward to sail her!

Shirley

Joe Valinoti

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Aug 14, 2025, 8:30:15 AMAug 14
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Welcome aboard, Shirley.  I hope you have or will join INA where you can get most of those answers.  I think that the Paloma was standard equipment when our boats were built and lots of people still have them.  There have been issues with ins company's and surveys.  When I got mine 20 some odd years ago, I removed my Paloma and installed the typical engine/110 system and never regretted it.
 
Joe Valinoti
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Oriental, NC USA

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Brian Godfrey

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Aug 14, 2025, 11:19:54 AMAug 14
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Hi Shirley,
   Some still have the Paloma and some have replaced them.  Here is a discussion from a year or two ago that you might want to read:
   
   I have purchased an Excel which was mentioned in that thread, but have yet to install it.  I am told it is plug and play with the Paloma.  It certainly looks like an easy replacement for my dead Bosch unit.  But it will not allay your concern about having propane aboard.

   I do have an LP control system which operates a remote solenoid control on the propane tanks and has at least one monitor in the bilge.  If it detects propane it shuts off the supply.  I sure hope that is true because I forgot to turn off the valves on the propane tanks the last time I was on the boat!  It's old and I don't know if they make the brand anymore, but I'll try and get the name the next time I'm aboard.

--Brian Godfrey
  Vela, NS33, San Diego

Brian

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Aug 14, 2025, 12:32:33 PMAug 14
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Hi Shirley,

Welcome to the group . We also have the Paloma water heater but it is in the galley behind the sink. We feel comfortable using it when needed but turn off the gas with the solenoid valve at the tank when on board. The switch is lighted and behind the stove so it’s hard to ignore. We always turn off the manual valve when sailing or leave the boat and also have forgotten to do that once of twice. When we do we turn on the bilge vent fan before going below for precaution.  
All the Best,

Brian and Kathy Cayer
Spirit~Wind
N30U 419
Westbrook, Ct

Jonathan Lewit

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Aug 14, 2025, 1:26:59 PMAug 14
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Hi Shirley,

There is an interesting post on the Nonsuch Discourse site about a propane system upgrade to an Excel water heater - 


Welcome aboard,
Jon Lewit
N26C #115 - Inua - Kingston, NY


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Richard Fried

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Aug 15, 2025, 6:51:07 AMAug 15
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Shirley:

Congratulations on your new boat and your INA membership.  You are both lucky and fortunate in your savvy decision.

Melita has the same water heater, which has worked well all these years. We’ve experienced no danger and no mishaps.  With 4 water tanks, which have a total 160-gallon capacity, we’ve used the Paloma quite often for the galley, head, and shower.  

Melita has a Xintrex propane detector, which is located in the bilge, with a solenoid connected to the propane line in the transom propane locker.  The propane line not only feeds the Paloma but also the 4-burner stove/oven and the saloon space heater.

Our assessment is that the most likely point of failure would be in the propane line, not in the devices connected to the propane line.  And, the most likely point of failure would be where the propane line could degrade when passing through a bulkhead, being bent into a directional turn, or at a Y junction.  

So, we periodically have the propane line inspected at these points.  Like you, we are highly risk-averse, but we’ve found the preventive steps taken to have been sufficient for the 26 years we’ve sailed Melita.

Richard Fried
Melita NS36 02
Marblehead, MA

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Shirley Cheung, Nonsuch 30C, Toronto, Ontario

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Aug 15, 2025, 6:51:12 AMAug 15
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Hello all,

Thanks so much for your replies!

I am based in Toronto, Canada and I am now sure what the Canadian marine insurance will require. Marine survey will be done tomorrow and so I will see what the surveyor says.

Replacing with the EXCEL is an option (no pilot light) and seems to be an easy installation...since I can just use the old Paloma lines to plug and play.

I alos thought the heat exchanger - getting heat from the engine - but this can be a very complicated affairs.

SIDE QUESTION: Somebody mentioned installing a gas defector in the bilge and will shut off the solenoid switch when it detects gas? What brand/model of this detector is ? I am more scared of blowing up the boat and a gas defector seems to be a peice of mind.

Thanks,

Shirley

Joe Valinoti

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earl.ott:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group and congrats on your purchase.   We hope you will also join the INA.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, where and what it is.
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Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
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martinforeman888:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, where and what it is.
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Joe Valinoti
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Hi, I’m interested in joining the International Nonsuch Association discussion group to connect with other Nonsuch sailboat owners and share information. Please add me to the group. Thank you!

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Joe,

This user was flagged by Discourse AI for sending possible spam and I was notified and asked to review his post.  He is now suspended and any further posts silenced.  You may want to consider doing the same in this group. 

Jon
N26C #115 Inua 
Kingston, NY


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Joe Valinoti

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Thanks, Jon. 
 
Joe


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godxzyrox:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group group.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, what it is and where it lies.
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Joe Valinoti
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templetonrk: Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.   Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, what and where it lies.
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theresebmccoy: Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, what and where it is.
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Lives in the area and would like to know what's new happening currently and connect with everyone here.

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nick.allinson:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, where and what it is.
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sarahcampbell:  Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group.  I hope you will also join the INA.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, where and what it is.
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I recently became the owner of a Nonsuch 30. I’d like to join the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group to seek advice on sail trim, connect with fellow owners, and learn from their maintenance and cruising experiences

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fongemie:  Welcome to the INA Nonsuch Discussion Group and congrats on your purchase.  We hope you will also join the INA.  Note how we sign each post with our name, name of boat, where and what it is.
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I just purchased a Nonsuch 26 & sail the Maine coast. Looking to get and share information.

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