User generated 3D model pipeline has been retired October 1st, 2013

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Google Craig

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Oct 15, 2013, 3:47:23 PM10/15/13
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Hi folks,


With the goal to have every building in the world accurately displayed in 3D, we’ve explored different methods for modeling large areas of our planet in 3D, including technologies like SketchUp, Building Maker and lately 3D Imagery. We’ve decided that in order to pursue the most consistent user experience, we'll be focusing our resources on the technology that will scale to the entire world and will be discontinuing support of the user generated 3D program.


We’d like to thank all of you who helped form the landscape of Google Earth and helped cities around the globe grow out of the 2D realm, and into the imaginations of virtual 3D explorers everywhere.


Models can still be uploaded to the Trimble 3D Warehouse, where they can continue to be shared with the modeling community, but they will no longer be published to Google Earth starting October 1st, 2013. Existing models will remain visible in Google Earth, until a time when they're replaced by new models generated for that region. Google Takeout lets you download an archive containing all of your models.


On a personal note: I’ve had the good fortune of being involved in the 3D modeling effort for Google Earth from the beginning, and I've watched many of you create collections of amazingly detailed architectural wonders from every corner of the Earth. I'm very thankful to have been along for that ride and to have gotten to know many of you over the years.


With respect and appreciation,


   - CraigD and the 3D Modeling Team


Mado

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Aug 6, 2013, 2:29:32 PM8/6/13
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RIP !
(from my husband ... Bdhy)

tomcioZG

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Aug 6, 2013, 3:31:26 PM8/6/13
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For me, this decision is a bit weird. New technology does not cover the whole world at once, only the largest cities and only then smaller. Many beautiful places such as castles, palaces and other wonders of nature are often located outside of large cities and even in the middle of nowhere. It seems to me that you would implement new technologies gradually. It's just my opinion. I respect decision and I wish good luck to you Craig and the whole 3D Modeling Team.

P.S. I'm glad that I was able to visit Boulder in 2009. It was for me an unforgettable experience.

Best,

Tomasz

przygod

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Aug 6, 2013, 4:29:15 PM8/6/13
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Thanks for sharing this sad news Craig.

It was a great experience to create and put my own piece in Google Earth. I hope there will be some new interesting UGC project coming.

Krzysztof Przygoda :: przygod

pmolsen

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Aug 6, 2013, 5:33:42 PM8/6/13
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What will be the status of kml files in the 3D Warehouse please? Will it still be possible to load and display them in Google Earth?

When is the last upload of models please? In other words has the process already stopped, or if I upload a model today for example will it be considered?

Google Craig

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Aug 6, 2013, 5:42:51 PM8/6/13
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Hi Peter,

3D models will be reviewed/accepted and published until October 1st, 2013. The last publish to Google Earth should occur on or shortly after the October 1st deadline.

You will be able to download and display geo-located 3D model kmls from the 3D Warehouse for the foreseeable future, but they will not be published to the 3D Buildings layer after October 1st, 2013.

I hope that answers your questions.

Best,

    - Craig

peterg/gipuzkoa3d

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Aug 6, 2013, 6:23:23 PM8/6/13
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Hello Craig

But .. Current models Included on layer 0 will remain visible?

best
Peterg

Google Craig

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Aug 6, 2013, 6:27:23 PM8/6/13
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Hi Peterg,

the buildings that are visible on the 3D Buildings layer on October 31st, 2013, will remain visible until they are either deleted from the 3D Warehouse or are replaced with 3D Imagery. 

Best,

    - Craig

Paul van Dinther

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Aug 6, 2013, 6:40:30 PM8/6/13
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Hi Peter, how about loading models into Google Earth using the API. Will that still be supported?

Google Craig

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Aug 6, 2013, 6:48:19 PM8/6/13
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The API will support the current 3D Buildings layer. Of course you can add any kmz that you'd like, for your custom layers.

Best,

    - Craig

Richard Pedicini

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Aug 6, 2013, 9:21:25 PM8/6/13
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Google has never kept it a secret that it retires programs and projects as the market and the world change.

For a while it's been clear that we've been building sand castles before a rising tide, though I had not expected it to rise so high and so soon, that there would be a couple of years left at least.

That's the rational response.

The emotional one though, is that Craig's note is like hearing, "We're going to shoot your puppy".

Cheers,
Richard

Richard Pedicini

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Aug 6, 2013, 9:26:56 PM8/6/13
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No, that's not it. Now it comes to me. There's a scene in "Diamonds are Forever" (the book not the movie) where ABC announces to one of the links in his diamond smuggling operation, "I'm shutting down the pipeline". The he shoots him.

Google Craig, James Bond villain. 
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Екатерина Кравченко

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:14:39 AM8/7/13
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Does this mean that the error on the page "My models" will not be fixed?
Page address http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=1457940670376486217306074, I click "Allow others to see my profile", enter a nickneme and click "Save". The nickname is not saved. I can't send  the model using SketchUp without the  nickname.

tomcioZG

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:36:46 AM8/7/13
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Hi Екатерина. I had a similar problem when I setting up a new account on 3D Warehouse to my friend. I couldn't save the user name. I remember that I tried to save the user name several times and finally succeeded. 

Francisco José Borge Cordovilla

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Aug 7, 2013, 5:31:17 AM8/7/13
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Hola Craig, otra duda
Los modelos publicados en la galería 3D de Trimble, ¿van a poder seguir cargándose a Google Earth desde dicha galería mediante la opción "ver en Google Earth" (aunque se supriman de la capa general)?. Desde luego ello no estorbaría a los fines de Google, sería sólo para verlos puntualmente, aunuq ela capa siguiera otro sistema de generación de sólidos 3D...,
¿ o esa posibilidad va a ser suprimmida también?
UN honor haber pertenecido al proyecto, muchas gracias y un fuerte abrazo.

SnowTiger

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Aug 7, 2013, 7:16:22 AM8/7/13
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Huge .... HUGE mistake.
I'm betting this will be Google Earth's downfall.

Regardless, it's definitely the downfall for my current business and may well be the downfall for SU's popularity.

I am truly disappointed with Google's decision.
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Mado

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Aug 7, 2013, 9:44:33 AM8/7/13
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Hi Chris,

On May 15, a French magazine has predicted the end of Google Earth with the arrival of the new Google Maps .... after Building maker, the stop of 3DWarehouse seems to confirm!

http://www.lesnumeriques.com/google-i-o-point-sur-services-produits-google-n29520.html#maps

;)

jago716

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Aug 7, 2013, 10:47:00 AM8/7/13
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This is sad.  Very sad.

2013 has NOT been an ideal year for the 3D modelling community.  First we lose Building Maker (though it still appears to be in use by some), then Google Reader and Google Latitude, and now the 3D pipeline. 
I take it there won't be any "Model Your Town" competitions in the future?  
There are still quite a lot (though only so many) of geo-located works-in-progess in my personal 3D-model bucket list.  Is it truly worth it to go on at this point?  Does this render any 3D-layer guideline threads & discussions in this forum moot?

 - jago716

Gerardo Paz

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Aug 7, 2013, 11:56:34 AM8/7/13
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Hi Craig...

An ... emotive day for me... I.m with GE since the prehistory.. jaja... Anyway, life changes all the time.. But I will not cry or die.... just an idea:

Google could leave a 3D USERS layer besides the 3D Layer, where people could turn it to active to see the "old" user generated 3d models.

Don´t miss thousands of hours of hard modeling and texturizing work that many people around the world gave Google as a gift. Google build a great product thanks - in some way - to the interest and colaboration we, first users, did. I spent hundred of hours contributing to Google Earth. I ask just only one thing: a 3D Users (or 3D Old Models) layer. Nothing more than that.

Google is not evil..

matthiasbasler

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Aug 7, 2013, 1:10:58 PM8/7/13
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Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013 15:44:33 UTC+2 schrieb Mado:
On May 15, a French magazine has predicted the end of Google Earth with the arrival of the new Google Maps

I fear the same.
Google further developing a desktop application? For "old school" operating systems like Windows or Linux? With data cached on the local machine? To some managers it may sound like Sony still building Gramophone record players.
Not to me, though.

I wonder if the Google Maps has many of the capabilities of the desktop applications, such as importing KMZ/KML files, creating collections of locations, switching all different types of layers on or off, checking the historical imagery (often very helpful for me) and so on.

But I have become pessimistic lately, concerning Google's strategy. I wouldn't be surprised if they declared GE discontinued without having a replacement for these features.

The only aspect that gives me some hope GE desktop has a chance to survive is, that they have a commercial version, and maybe this is providing enough money to continue development.

Matthias Basler

matthiasbasler

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Aug 7, 2013, 1:32:33 PM8/7/13
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Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013 17:56:34 UTC+2 schrieb Gerardo64:
I ask just only one thing: a 3D Users (or 3D Old Models) layer. Nothing more than that.

You are aware that a layer for user-generated models, which is not updated any more by Google is outdated within 10 years and thus slowly becomes worthless? You'd have to a have a completely user-organized review pipeline for this layer and I very much doubt Google will play along with such idea.

Rest in peace, shiny new user-generated 3D world. It was a pleasure to look at you.

Matthias Basler

Pavel Averyanov

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:00:26 PM8/7/13
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This is really frustrating news for me and for all ppl, who made models in SU. I think, google should rethink this desition.

вторник, 6 августа 2013 г., 23:00:03 UTC+6 пользователь Google Craig написал:

KEITH LURIE

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:08:27 PM8/7/13
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So, no new buildings.  Coming from a small town without 3d imagery, I have been the only person submitting 3d buildings.  The day that I decided to make business out of geo modelling, Craig announced that the new auto generated mesh mush was to replace all the fantastic work people have done for free. Needless to say, I gave up on the business plan, but continued to model some local buildings, knowing that , at least, until auto mesh mush covers the whole world, we can still have buildings.  Now Google says no, no more new buildings. (I hope this means that they are about to announce that they have now ‘perfected’ the slimy mesh models, and covered the whole world, with high resolution 3d modelling, but I doubt it will be in the next 10 years)

Matthias, you have the answer, ‘user-organized’.  But it should not include Google.  Perhaps someone else can provide the platform.  It would be better than Google could ever do it, because they just provided restriction.  We need a few layers, so you can include any geo located model, but it will need to be verified by other modellers to go up a layer.  The criteria becoming more stringent on higher layers.  One layer for only photo textured real buildings, a layer for any texture, the ability to ‘scroll’ through different models of the same building, and vote, a layer for fantasy buildings, a layer for really bad models, I could go on. 

A user-controlled system would be free of rules that we never understood (separate buildings on the same property for example.)  Perhaps we could have terrain that can be corrected, or add newer, fresher imagery. 

In fact, Google have used the geo modellers as free reviewers anyway. 

How about Wiki-world?

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Thorpe

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:29:22 PM8/7/13
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Disappointing, but not very surprising. This now puts the future of Google Earth in doubt. 

I've only fairly recently started using SU and GE in earnest for my job, part of which entails extensive crowd & safety planning for large conferences. The most valuable aspects of SU & GE are the ease of use of both and the simple way of sharing well made and correct scale models for the various plans we have in effect. The availability of GE for anyone to use makes sharing these models amongst the many necessary sets of eyes a snap and feasible on a small budget scale. 

So, I must ask, how much longer can we expect GE to stick around and will its replacement support importing of kmx/kml files?

Gage Mitchusson

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Aug 7, 2013, 3:42:41 PM8/7/13
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I Think That's Great! Can You All At Google Please Do Bentonville, Arkansas And The Surrounding Area As It Is The Home Of Walmart, JB Hunt, And Tyson?

Jason Mill

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Very Dissapointed .. with 80% of our city wiped out in the 2011 Earthquakes and subsequent demolition frenzy, Google Earth has become the go to for many recovery agencies. These utilise the user created models as they are the only way to keep up with our accelerated change. We don't have 3D imagery yet but when we do it will be of demolished building sites and buildings in several states of construction. If the 3D imagery updates are similar to aerial imagery updates or streetview updates then our city model will be out of date within weeks. I dare say this will be an accelerated version of the situation in most cities.

Shame .. I've been a huge advocate for GE for 12yrs now .. but soon it will be no more than eye candy.

best to all my fellow moders!
J.



Ricardo Nunes

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Aug 7, 2013, 6:46:51 PM8/7/13
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Sad and unfortunate because there was a good market around "geomodeling" that never got the chance to fully develop. 
But expected since good models started to be replaced by ugly geometry full of artifacts. 
And even more when building maker became an internal tool, probably to aid in correcting the auto models.

Anyway, perhaps we will see some sort of "Business models" program in the future, much like what exists today for interior panoramas.

Jack Clark

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Aug 7, 2013, 7:38:46 PM8/7/13
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This is truly sad to hear.  I have continued to create geo models despite the knowledge that they may eventually be replaced, but now I see that I have only a few weeks to work on my project to model my hometown downtown area.  So sad.

Tiago Volanick

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Uma triste notícia, depois de 4 anos de modelagem tudo irá acabar...., péssima notícia.


Vinícius Camargos

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Aug 7, 2013, 9:27:10 PM8/7/13
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This is bad news for small towns in USA or Europe, and horrible news for towns in Brazil, for example. It will take ages for Google to map, for example, my town in 3D. I think Google should have stop 3d modelling for cities with the new 3D models and etc, and not for everything all at once.

Billy Sastard

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Aug 7, 2013, 11:02:21 PM8/7/13
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Why such short notice? Especially when the review process can take weeks or months to get a model published. 
This is very bad news

alp28

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Aug 7, 2013, 11:06:39 PM8/7/13
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On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 12:00:03 PM UTC-5, Google Craig wrote:

Hi folks,


With the goal to have every building in the world accurately displayed in 3D, we’ve explored different methods for modeling large areas of our planet in 3D, including technologies like SketchUp, Building Maker and lately 3D Imagery. We’ve decided that in order to pursue the most consistent user experience, we'll be focusing our resources on the technology that will scale to the entire world and will be discontinuing support of the user generated 3D program.


We’d like to thank all of you who helped form the landscape of Google Earth and helped cities around the globe grow out of the 2D realm, and into the imaginations of virtual 3D explorers everywhere.


Models can still be uploaded to the Trimble 3D Warehouse, where they can continue to be shared with the modeling community, but they will no longer be published to Google Earth starting October 1st, 2013. Existing models will remain visible in Google Earth, until a time when they're replaced by new models generated for that region. Google Takeout lets you download an archive containing all of your models.


On a personal note: I’ve had the good fortune of being involved in the 3D modeling effort for Google Earth from the beginning, and I've watched many of you create collections of amazingly detailed architectural wonders from every corner of the Earth. I'm very thankful to have been along for that ride and to have gotten to know many of you over the years.


With respect and appreciation,


   - CraigD and the 3D Modeling Team


Very sad, depressing day. Had greatly enjoyed geo-modelling as hobby since 2008. I guess with building maker cancellation, it was apparent what was going on. Will still create models with Sketchup, just not for google earth.
 
 

Billy Sastard

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Aug 7, 2013, 11:11:52 PM8/7/13
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Also, how does the new technology model structures that are partially or fully obscured by trees? 

Daniel Brandewie

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Aug 7, 2013, 11:12:20 PM8/7/13
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As a professional urban planner, I find it disappointing that Google doesn't realize the value of this technology in its mission to create a more sustainable planet.  I thought, in some respects, we were just at our infancy in exploring how Google Earth and 3D modeling could be applied to solve many urban design and city planning problems.  I have used Google Earth and 3d warehouse models for historic preservation purposes, designing streets for bicycle and pedestrian improvements, tree planting applications and affordable housing. Why any company would totally disregard the millions of hours put into this effort, that can be used for a positive purpose is simply beyond me. . Well, I do know why...they couldn't make enough money off it.

Scottio Wilson

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Aug 8, 2013, 12:06:13 AM8/8/13
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Craig/Google mentions a "consistent user experience" Many of us have had our whack @ the ball. We were given the freedom to Model the World and could not accomplish it within the time or speed technology marches at. This is sad but I realize Google is a business and they are in direct competition with Apple's C3 maps in IOS7. GE was based on the GMaps API as it is. Btwn panoramic streetview and Google maps, there is plenty of business opportunity to serve our client base. Google has made user generated 3d fun and promoted the KML/KMZ file format into a standard to be reckoned with. My thanks to Google but my applause goes to all of us who took the time to model what we loved and had the witheral to follow it through to completion. Google will move forward and so will we. My hope is Google leaves a mechanism open, or creates a layer, so we can choose to display our custom models for client generated preview of future or historical buildings/landscapes. So far that is not possible with their mesh cityscapes. No resentment. I'm gonna remember the glory days @ the worldwide 3d modelers community on G+

Rice Black

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Hello Craig
I come from Taiwan , I think my living Taiwan was not build mature .
I want to know after that day how can we see more 3D building on Google earth ?
And , or that was having some teams in some places build the 3D building in where they living place or country?
Thanks for watching my poor English grammar. 

嗨 Craig
我來自台灣,我想我生活的台灣建模還尚未成熟。
我想知道在那天之後我們要怎麼看到更多的3D建築在Google地球上?
然後,或者是有一些團隊在那些地方建立在他們的家鄉的建築?
謝謝你們看完我悲劇的英文文法。

Google Craig於 2013年8月7日星期三UTC+8上午1時00分03秒寫道:

Scottio Wilson

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Aug 8, 2013, 1:06:18 AM8/8/13
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Well I guess the "consistent experience" means my existing models, which were meticulously placed and accepted and displayed properly in the GE 3d layer, now appear 2D and broken in Google Earth as of right now. So the promise of buildings staying in GE means they will look like crap as of today. Connecticut hasn't ever been meshed yet.

Zix

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Aug 8, 2013, 2:17:40 AM8/8/13
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You must be kidding. This is a big disappointment. 3D modeling is a major challenge for many people. There has been a lot of effort. Google Earth looked awesome with all its features, including hand-made 3D models. It will take a lot of time that current technology AutoGenerated 3D models is well done as well as hand-made models. Auto-generated 3D models look awful, like a bad ice cream. 
I am disappointed. 
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Mado

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Aug 8, 2013, 4:10:50 AM8/8/13
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Quel silence assourdissant de la part de CraigD !

Le jeudi 8 août 2013 09:23:44 UTC+2, Jonathan Green a écrit :
I've suspected this would happen for some time, but I think it's a mistake. A great many models created in SU are infinitely better than the auto-generated mesh. It would have been better to find a way to integrate both together, even if it meant ditching some of the less accurate models in the process. I am suspicious of the money aspect and whether this wasn't financially sustainable, but Google makes huge profits and leads many innovations. I think Google should continue to develop some of it's best features - even if that means selling it for a small price. Let's face it, GE is an incredible piece of software that has been provided for free for a long time.
Also, I wonder if WebGL now being accepted as an ISO standard, and Microsoft making an apparent u-turn to recognize it, is leading to GE going onto a web-based format? We shall see...

Marco Aurélio Om

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Aug 8, 2013, 5:52:30 AM8/8/13
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A credibilidade da Google chega ao zero.

Scottio Wilson

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If Google has decided they are not going to upconvert our last submissions outside of Google mesh cities in GE 7.1.1888, that would be the unkindest cut of all. Guess i'm done modeling until October 1 and there goes my hope to get any more buildings in Newtown CT finished.
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Mado

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After the announcement of the stop of the 3Dwarehouse, in sign of disagreement I suggest that you remove all your models of the 3DWarehouse.
I removed all my models and there are only two models of my husband (bdhy ... he can not remove after his access ban).

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?viewer=1150040972567467118914552&scoring=m
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=0771646331298948933562525&scoring=m
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peterg/gipuzkoa3d

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Aug 8, 2013, 9:17:42 AM8/8/13
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Hola Mado

A mi tambien se me ha pasado alguna vez borrar los modelos, para responder a un desacuerdo, pero eso es una tonteria y solo responde a un calentón, el cual es muy facil de tener con estas noticias.

Pienso que todavia durante algún tiempo los modelos se podrán ver en GE, incluso desde la versión 2 de Google maps.. de hecho voy a fabricar algunos modelos mas antes del cierre..

La tecnología cambia, unas veces hay malas noticias y otras son mejores, pero eso no es motivo tu trabajo desparezca de un lugar donde mucha gente puede visionarlos, tu ahora has optado por visionarlos solo tu.

¿ Ganas algo borrando los modelos ? realmente no, yo tambien estoy molesto por al noticia, pero nadie sabe lo que ocurrira en los proximos meses.

Yo entiendo que Google ha parado el equipo de revisión y aceptacion de modelos, pero no ha dicho que vaya a retirar los modelos. 

Dudo que tanto trabajo y esfuerzo por parte de todos, incluido google.. se elimine y no se pueda visionar...es más dudo que Google sepa que hacer con ellos en este momento.

la unificación de maps y GE requeriere convivir tecnologías diferentes y eso es muy complicado...por ello algo se ha de sacrificar si se quiere "evolucionar"

A mi me gustaria como a otros, que las cosas fueran como todos conocemos, pero los tiempos empujan a cambios constantes, el que no lo haga quedará tascado aquí, o en otras situaciones de la vida.

Mi consejo es enfriarse, dejar las cosas como están  y ver que ocurre en los próximos meses. 

peterg





Mado

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Aug 8, 2013, 10:38:21 AM8/8/13
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"dejar las cosas como están  y ver que ocurre en los próximos meses"
"laisser les choses comme elles sont" ....
Google ne laisse pas les choses comme elles sont !!!!!!
Ils ont décidé d'arrêter la 3DWarehouse .... et tant pis pour les "pauvres" "vieux" modeleurs .... amateurs ou professionnels !
point final.
Je pense a tous ces modeleurs amateurs qui ont passé des milliers d'heures (comme mon mari, Bdhy), ou qui ont commencé a en faire une activité profesionnelle ....
Tant pis pour eux, Google décide.

drobbins

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Aug 8, 2013, 11:53:23 AM8/8/13
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While this news is very sad for me because I had fun modeling various places and discovering new uses for the models in the GE platform, I have finally resigned that the technology has outpaced the user generated model in their goal of modeling the majority of the world. Yes, the current 3d mesh imagery looks like crap up close, but I suspect that will change within the next year or less. Google has spent a lot of time and money capturing Street View imagery of this planet, and wherever they captured that imagery they also got detailed LIDAR information as well.

While I believe that the current 3D mesh models are generated from aerial imagery, which might or might not include LIDAR information, I think the next iteration of the 3D mesh models will merge that existing aerial information with the street level LIDAR information to create models of stunning accuracy. So much so that it might be a little unnerving to some. Right now they are probably working on the programming to merge all that data together and have it display and function seamlessly in Google Earth.

In my mind what will be the next revolutionary step for that 3D layer once the hyper realistic mesh is completed will be if they find a way through programming to break up the mesh along building boundaries to re institute the click-ability of individual buildings and structures. I know Google would like to think that the interactivity of Google Earth is preserved through the geolocation of icons alone, but that is far from the case.  The buildings should be the top level entry point to subsequent icons because the buildings are the largest items you see when you enter an area on GE

That's just my 2 cents.

Darian Robbins 

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Hi everybody,

I've been reading through all of your responses and want to acknowledge that this news may indeed come as a shock, is certainly disappointing and has made folks sad/mad that their hobby, and in some cases, businesses will be affected. This wasn't an easy decision to make. 

What most people may not realize, is the size of the effort required to support the user generated 3D pipeline. We are challenged to create a complete, accurate and consistent 3D world, and we only have so much time and people to do it. In order to push forward with our best effort, we have to make the difficult decision of not just what we need to do to meet our goals, but what we must stop doing so we can focus completely. 

I know this isn't good news for 3D geo-modelers, and we can fully understand your disappointment. Many of us started out as modelers, and know how much skill, effort and time it takes to create these very good models. We very much respect your skills and wish there was a way to continue to support this pipeline, but we just can't. The effort on our side was very great, and we aren't able to sustain it during this transition to newer technology.

I appreciate the thoughtful responses and will continue to read your posts and answer what questions I can. 

Best,

     - CraigD

Pavel Averyanov

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Its all about money, guys )
But anyway, thx for SU and for GE. It was really greate time for all of us.

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matthiasbasler

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The famous Friedrich Schiller once placed the following words in the mouth of a black servant:

Der Mohr hat seine Schuldigkeit getan, der Mohr kann gehen.
(engl. The Moor has done his duty, the Moor can go. )

He was sooo right.

Well, if Google thinks they don't need the community any more, they do not deserve my models any more. Also, since I would not be able to keep my models up-to-date to reflect real world changes or move them whenever the imagery changes, I don't want to see the models waste away over the years. So better kill them quickly.

I have therefore decided that, if Google doesn't revise this decision, I will be deleting all my ~400 georeferenced models from the 3DWH on the start of October, among them (but not limited to):
  • Half the city center of Weißenburg, Germany
  • The majority of stave churches in the 3DWH
  • Some buildings in the famous tourist city of Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Germany
  • The city hall of Wernigerode, Germany (well-known for weddings because of its lovely architecture)
  • The famous Naumburg cathedral, Germany
  • The famous "All Saints' Church, Wittenberg" (Germany), on whose door Marthin Luther is claimed to have placed his 95 theses.
  • Fürstenfeld abbey, Germany
  • and many more churches, castles, city halls and iconic buildings in and around Germany.
Fellow modellers, you might want to revisit these models before they are gone and download whatever you like.

Since this leaves me with nothing substantial in Google's cloud, I will close my Google account as well. (Sorry for the NSA & Co. which may have a harder time spying on me in the future.)
Of course I will explain to the local newspaper why my town will suddenly look so empty. They were interested in this modelling project.

P.S. I agree with some other modellers that the technology of user-created building models had a big potential which was not fully exploited until now. There would imho have been alternatives, such as offering commercial reviews and specific layers for professionals, like city planners, historical buildings etc. (thus covering the review costs).

Matthias Basler, (rather full of bitterness now)
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Pedro Domecq

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Hi Matthias

Yo no voy a borrar ningún modelo, tengo mas de 600, me parece precipitado, además 
Creo que algunos no han entendido el mensaje: Google no va a borrar los modelos de la capa 0, por lo menos no lo ha dicho...
hay que tener paciencia y ver que ocurre, yo tambien he tenido momentos de borrarlos, pero no lo voy hacer.. en absoluto.

Igual que tu, el que borre sus modelos, luego se arrepienta.. no los podras volver a subir nunca más.. pienso que es mejor dejarlos en la capa 0, puede que pernamezcan muchos meses, incluso años visibles por lo menos hasta que exista Google Earth..

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1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year .... they will be deleted

:(

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Bad news...
 
Well, we all were driving in a tunnel which is dark and hard to calculate its lenght.
This was a powerful mutualistic relationship between modelers and Google. They've provided the substructure, and we enriched the content by modeling millions of models.
 
However, Google decided to leave us. But there are so many questions that should be answered...
 
When will 3D Map technology will be applied in a village of Turkey? Or even a city of Turkey?
I don't think it will be quick process. Even street view option is still disabled in my country for years.
 
This was an inevitable end. Yes we're sad, and i think it will be good if Google sent us some gifts as they did in sales period of Sketchup to Trimble.
 
I'm very pleased for being a part of this community with my 771 models on Google Earth. 
 
Regards.

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Well, I just came back from the hospital after 10 days and the first thing I saw when I went to the 3D-Warehouse was this anouncement! Great, isn't it?! But (to be quite honest) I'm not extremly surprised. Google had to chose a way and (to the bad of this community) they chose the auto-generated models. After all, Google is a business and they have to think about themeself in the first place because without them there would be none of those things like GE and the 3D-Warehouse!

I'm grateful for the chance Google gave me, way back then (5 years ago) and since they let the models stay on GE for are while they still give us this really small piece to hold on to (at least for a couple of months).

I could end this post by saying how extremly dissapointed I am in people like bdhy (or mado/Joe or whatever name he uses now) for making fun and being disrespectful to those who had faith in the 3D-Warehouse for so long but I wanna end this post on a positiev note and thank Craig for his help!
                             
From the very start till now you helped me with my problems, gave me advice and did that while helping countless others as well and maintaining GE and the Google 3D-Warehouse. You're not the person who makes all those decisions but still you have to stick your neck out and tell us those decision and you're also the one who has to to deal with the reactions. I don't take this support and help for granted! A huge THANK YOU for that! :)

So, I'd say say, keep your heads up and lets see what the future has in store for us! Maybe things gonna work out in a way that none of us is expecting! :)
 
Regards
 
-Sebastian

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Thanks Sebastian, I appreciate that. There are a lot of people here who should share the thanks though, folks who I work with who've tirelessly created the servers, who've worked hard to get the acceptance criteria correct, people who've designed and supported the internal testing tools, people who've answered many questions over the years, folks who've judged and appealed tens of thousands of models, and people on my team who've made a ton of user generated models for Google Earth and have been involved in every process listed above. There really are great people here, who've been dedicated for years, to make sure it was possible to have these models in Google Earth.

So, I will share that thank you with them, and we thank you back! Your models, along with others of your caliber, have been astoundingly beautiful and have a made a big difference in Google Earth. 

It's been a pleasure getting to know and work with you Sebastian. :)

   - CraigD

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era de esperar,desde que google vendio a trimble,se olia,cualquier empresa hace reformas y esta es realmente triste,con en gran trabajo realizado por muchos de mis compañeros en el modelado 3d,esto es un mal pagar,en fin,desde aqui quiero mandar un gran saludo a los guias y a toda la comunidad de modeladores,nos queda poco tiempo de ser util,y aprovecho la ocasion para comentar que la nueva tecnologia 3d que vais a inponer en google earth es muy ,,,bueno lo voy a decir como se dicen las cosas,es espantosa,las calles se ven como si el sol derritiera el planeta,los arboles,parecen velas consumidas,me gustaria hacer una toma de las ciudades mas importantes del mundo en la actualidad,y posteriormente recordarlas,vais a romper una labor de muchos años de trabajo,dedicacion sin animo de lucro y mucho interes por esto,estoy casi seguro que dentro de muy poco,sketchup desaparecera,ya que no va tener utilidad,realmente esto es una mala noticia para los que hemos puesto tanto de si

peterX

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Hi Craig,

I understand the effort needed to sustain the quality and integrity of the "3D Buildings" layer in Google Earth. Google and Trimble should be commended for the outstanding job over the years.

Why not allow the user community share in this effort for the benefit of everyone? User submitted models for review can be reviewed by peer modelers. This model has been used successfully in Google MapMaker. 

I believe this should be tried before shutting down the review pipeline. 

Peter 

TANG

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CraigD

我來自臺灣,我是Tang

我也是超級模型師,我們不能否認這7年中,Google對地理建模的努力,我也很榮幸2010年參與瑞士蘇黎世的建模會議,那是一個令人值得再度回憶的一件事情
因為科技的發展,快速的建立3D模型,是必要的,雖然我也很傷心這是一個不好的消息,但我們擁有3D建模的技術,這也是可以朝著其他方向去發展的,而不是
只有地理模型單一選項。

希望大家能讓自己的情緒處於穩定,不要讓這次的決策,而影響自己對於3D的熱愛,願大家可以有更好其它的工作發展,也能開始另一個新的世界!

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Zix

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Hi Craig, hi modelers,

I hope, that together we will find a solution to our problems. In any case, this was a nice experience for all of us. I'm afraid I will lose SU popularity. Unfortunately, we know who's boss. It would be wrong to delete our models.
I like the new Google maps, but I prefer Google Earth.

Greetings to all my friends and modelers around the world.

3rd Angle

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Hi 

Is it possible to maintain a huge number of designers of buildings proposed in this way?
Ghaleb 3D Warehouse.jpg

KEITH LURIE

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I don’t see why not.

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@ Zix
your first post sounds a little different.
...in fact "we" find no solution, only a huge tons of E-Mails maybe first-hand to Mr. Page and friends could help. Or the deleting of dozens of Google accounts.
Some guys here like Mathias Basler and MADO got the balls to say the truth, others are hoping at the mercy of the "NWO builded Google inc.and friends"
Best to all brave modelers

Jonathan Green

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