Re: [yWriter] Installing my yWriter on more than one pc

[Michelle Norton]

Download and install on the new computer. Copy your project directory to the new computer. 

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM, esenecal <er...@senecal.us> wrote:

Is there a simple way to install my yWriter program on more than one of my computers? It's on my laptop right now, but that needs to be sent to HP for fixing. I'd like to install onto my husband's laptop and desktop so I can keep writing and editing while I'm without my own pc. 

I can't seem to find any directions on the forum. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right spots. I've seen posts about transferring info from one pc to another via a stick but I don't want to do that. I'd like to have my writings on each computer. 

I'd appreciate any clear direction y'all can provide!

Blessings,

Erica

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[Alex MacPhee]

I have all my documents on an SD card, for portability. I also copied
the yWriter program files to a folder on the same card, and it runs
happily from there. That way, when I need to use a different laptop or
computer, everything's on the SD card where I need it.

Alex

[John Kovacich]

I also use a USB flash drive to hold my documents.  I install yWriter on any machine I plan to use, but load/store the documents directly from flash drive.  I frequently copy the flash drive to my hard drive for backup.  They don't last forever.

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[Tristan Berry]

I store all my yWriter projects on both SkyDrive and Google Drive (for redundant redundancy - and in a single folder with subfolders for each project with their attendant RTF5 folders, of course) and I simply create shortcuts on my desktop that open the file in Google Drive and edit that file directly. That way I don't have to give any thought whatsoever to daily backups and I just sync the file stored on Google Drive to SkyDrive once a week or so. But the ultimate advantage is that I can install yWriter on any portable storage device, (USB drive or SD card - I have both) and by creating the same shortcuts on the portable device I can always work on any of my projects from any PC anywhere, regardless of the possible storage limitations of any device I might be working from The end result is a user experience that is precisely the same as if I were working on a locally-stored file. Easy-peasy, lemon-squeezy.

[Vincent Myers]

IMHO if you have to use yWriter on multiple pc's the best way to do it is just install it on a memory stick.  The versatility is hard to beat. 

I occasionally make back ups of my work and put them on my PC in case something goes wrong.

I know this approach might not be appealing to everyone but its pretty solid. 

[Tristan Berry]

It IS hard to beat that versatility, but I've had memory sticks fail on me before. Fortunately, I had a backup on my PC and only lost a few days' worth of work.

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[John Kovacich]

I, for one, like to think every novel I write is a masterpiece waiting to be discovered.   The thought of storing it in the cloud,  no matter how convenient,  leaves me too concerned about the security of my books.

[Carl Maniglia]

If you are concerned about security then why not either open a free account with Mega which uses  encryption that even the owners are unable to crack; or simply create an encrypted container (folder) using Truecrypt in your Cloud account and store your files in there? Only you will ever be able to access them as long as you don't forget the passphrase :) I've done this successfully for a long time now, I even store all my passwords and serial numbers in a sub folder as well.

It is highly unlikely that anyone is likely to go snooping through millions of accounts trying to find novels to plagiarise, as long as the Eula for the account you set up doesn't contain some stupid clause like Facebook and others seem to, signing over all the rights to your files to them, you should be pretty secure. The big players are unlikely to go belly up overnight leaving your stranded either.

I also use Dropbox (big drawing of breath on the forum and screams of "Kill the unbeliever!") to store my working yWriter projects. All you need to remember is that you need to close yWriter before it will upload the updated file to Dropbox so don't just close the lid of your laptop when you've finished some work in Costa Coffee then go home and open the project on your desktop expecting the file to have updated. You will need in that case to open up the laptop first and allow the upload to take place. It's no great issue to get in the habit of ensuring that Dropbox file shave updated before closing the lid though.

If you carry a USB stick around that's fine but unless you've encrypted the stick (hands up how many owners her have done that or know how to do it?), if you lose it or it is stolen you're potentially beggared.

How ever you carry your precious work around (i.e. on the laptop/netbook hard drive, on a USB stick, in the Cloud, on your big toenail etc?), even at home on your PC hard drive, or a USB drive, if it's unencrypted it's at risk to one degree or another. At least if there is a copy in the Cloud, if your house is burgled or, God forbid everything lost in a fire, you haven't lost everything.

The options are to only work at home on the magnum opus, be mobile but store your work in some way that presents a risk to the safety or security of the data, or to encrypt it. You can either be quite anal about that and encrypt everything including your system drive, or be a bit less anally retentive and just encrypt the areas at most risk - a bit like sensibly wearing a seat belt when you get in the car.

Carl

[Alex MacPhee]

There's often a degree of alarm over the status of material held on
Facebook and the like. You don't sign over all your rights to
Facebook. Facebook, in common with other such service providers,
requires that you give them the right to display the information you
upload to their sites. That's self-evident. It would be absurd to ask
Facebook to host your material whilst at the same time withholding the
legal right to do so. Copyright and all other rights remain with the
originator or author. For all Facebook's labyrinthine privacy settings
mess, it's not going to be doing a rights grab on anyone's magnum
opus. Their right to display material ends when the author deletes the
content from FB. Indeed, I've seen complaints of FB being quite
aggressive in removing uploaded material, such as cover photos or
recordings, when there's been a suspicion or report that the photo or
recording was a possible copyright infringement by a user. I should
think there's far more risk of material being purloined for re-use by
one's FB friends and contacts, many of whom, in my anecdotal
experience, think that because something is 'on the internet', it's
'in the public domain'.


Alex

[Michelle Norton]

For purposes of backup, use them all.

Frankly there is nothing wrong with using Dropbox for backup and storage...I use drive. Ideally you should use many different ways. USB, sd card ,cd, email, and keep a print out if it all fails.

As for stealing. A thief is more likely stealing a USB key for the USB key rather than and files, unless your famous.  Plagiarist are way to lazy to care...many would rather use stuff easily sussed through google. And first drafts aren't worth any thing unless you famous.

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[Peter Barns]

I use dropbox for backup  and it has caused loss of info a couple of times. Now I just pause sync while using ywriter then sync when finished. The problem seems to occur when trying to save too quickly after a change when the program can over write your project with an empty file.

[Carl Maniglia]

When yWriter is open it locks the files in a way that Dropbox can't access until they are released by closing yWriter. Applications that utilise only one file and a temp working file don't generally exhibit the same tendencies. however, I'd rather have to work around this very minor inconvenience than lose the work I had completed.

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[Carl Maniglia]

I was being somewhat ironic; however, it is the case that on a number of occasions Facebook, Instagram, Google and others have attempted to grab all or some of the [copy]rights from posters on their sites. The shouting that ensued has made them all pull their horns in almost immediately and return to the drawing board. I don't think for one minute that their lawyers won't come back at future dates with other ways of trying to gain free access to the wealth of material out there if they think they can exact a financial gain from doing so. After all none of them are charitable causes and all make billions out of using our personal data freely given by ourselves which is then linked to all the other bits of personal data that exists about us out there in the ether to create a financially lucrative body of information.

I suspect the only way to get away from this legal "identity data" theft is to change my name and become a homeless itinerant not registered to pay taxes or draw benefits and try to survive fishing in the Arctic Tundra :(  Or just stop worrying and get on with life:))

Regards

Carl

[John W Nelson]

I've read these comments and I'm still unsure as to whether it is "safe" to use Dropbox for yWriter5.  I will do some "experimenting," but a definitive answer would be great. Thanks!
John

[Michelle Norton]

The safest way is save your project outside of the Dropbox folder then copy it to folder once you exit ywriter. 

On Thursday, August 28, 2014, John W Nelson <john...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've read these comments and I'm still unsure as to whether it is "safe" to use Dropbox for yWriter5.  I will do some "experimenting," but a definitive answer would be great. Thanks!
John

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[John N]

Thank you, Michelle!
best regards,
John Nelson
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[Carl Maniglia]

Yes, It's safe to use Dropbox. It's the user that is ALWAYS the problem. If you aren't scrupulous about ensuring that Dropbox synchronises your yWriter files after you close down yWriter and before you shut down your computer. That's as definitive as it can be.

Michelle's option is safe but you still have the problem that you must allow Dropbox time to copy the files over - how long it takes will depend on the speed of the Broadband connection. I frequently catch an hour or so writing in coffee shops and other places with Wifi and the transfer speeds can be variable.

​Carl​

On 28 August 2014 22:13, John W Nelson <john...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've read these comments and I'm still unsure as to whether it is "safe" to use Dropbox for yWriter5.  I will do some "experimenting," but a definitive answer would be great. Thanks!
John

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