learning curve?

[Literate Aspects]

I tried django ... to discover HUGE learning curve
I tried Qt ... to discover moderate learning curve

I can amateur code in VBA and want to transfer that same code function to a webapp with database.

My question, how many hours or days or months would it take to develop a simple application that controls a web page to enter data into?

Jon

[Massimo Di Pierro]

It depends. what does the data look like?

[Thomas Bellembois]

Hi Jon,

I have spent a long time studying the different Python Web frameworks to develop a small chemical products management application and I have choosen Web2py mainly because of its fast learning curve (and also the active community).
The official documentation is a really good point to start.

Start with few pages to play with the model-controller-view structure and see.

Regards,

Thomas

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[Literate Aspects]

Hi Thomas,

Is there anything like: http://is.gd/pzcxYe a UI framework?

Jon

[Literate Aspects]

Hi, I am sorry, I just now read your reply - VERY SORRY, did not mean to be rude.  I really seek a little advisement to begin coding in Web2PY.

Is there anything like: http://is.gd/pzcxYe a UI Framework for Web2Py?

[Dave S]

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 5:37:52 PM UTC-7, Literate Aspects wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Is there anything like: http://is.gd/pzcxYe a UI framework?

Jon

web2py has a default UI environment.  For more details, see my answer in your other thread.

/dps

[Massimo Di Pierro]

you are not being rude at all. :-)

http://is.gd/pzcxYe is a client side framework (js) while web2py is server side. They are complementary and can work together. Once you learn the basics of web2py (chapter 3 of the book) you should be able to use it with Kendo.

[pbreit]

I look at Django and Rails every 6 months or so and still come back to web2py as being the easiest and most logical to get going.

Specifying the DB on models works really well. And the convention of laying out files corresponding to URL routes works out really well.

[Literate Aspects]

Hi Dave S,  I can't wait to see this Web2PY UI environment.  Thank you for your reply, shall view the other post.

Jon

[Literate Aspects]

Hi Massimo, thank you for your reply.  Chapter 3?  I printed out the tutorial from killer-web-development which was referred to me by pythonanywhere and am going to complete that tutorial today, Chapter 3 is in the Web2Py main documentation book?

Jon

[Literate Aspects]

Hi Pbreit, thank you for your reply.  I tried Django and did not appreciate the developer community over there.  I have read that Python is an extremely deep level language and can accomplish anything with it.  I am still trying to understand what Web2Py is?  Is it a script language?  Is it like VBA?  I don't see any IDE so I did not understand how to create objects without writing code, are there components within Web2PY?  I am sorry for the very basic questions - I really want to learn Web2Py, and am REALLY grateful for any and all responses.

Jon

[Literate Aspects]

Hi Massimo, I did not realize that YOU are the author of the Web2PY main book, I really have a high respect for a person like YOU THAT shares there time with people like me, whom are seeking to aspire to a level of literacy of programming that you have achieved.  What an incredible donation of unselfishness, wow!  Thank you!  People like YOU is what the world could be IF others had a US attitude instead of ME attitude.

I am going to jump in and read your book cover to cover and buy the hardbound edition as soon as I realize what Web2PY is.

Jon

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 5:53:05 PM UTC-7, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

[Rimantas Nedzinskas]

For me personally, one of the best learning sources are videos. Take a look at the web2py series: https://vimeo.com/104800778

Rimas 

[Literate Aspects]

ok, thank you Rimantas Nedzinskas, shall view the web2py video series.
Is there a tutorial on Lynda.com as well ?

Jon

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[Massimo Di Pierro]

It is a framework like Django but it is easy to use, packs more feature, and has a more friendly community. ;-)

[Literate Aspects]

Hi Rimantas, I viewed the vimeo video of Massimo and really liked it, but where is the "series" you mentioned, the video only played ONE video.

Jon

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:07:06 AM UTC-7, Rimantas Nedzinskas wrote:

For me personally, one of the best learning sources are videos. Take a look at the web2py series: https://vimeo.com/104800778

Rimas 

[Literate Aspects]

Sorry, found it:  http://www.web2py.com/init/default/documentation THANK you for all your responsiveness.  Jon

[Michael Beller]

Hi Jon,

I just posted my sample app, called Starter, that uses:

https://almsaeedstudio.com/preview

You can read about it here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/web2py/Md-OTq-hi-U%5B1-25%5D

and download it here:

https://github.com/mjbeller/web2py-starter

[billmac...@gmail.com]

Hi Michael,

I looked at the preview of the starter app. However I am not seeing the dashboard icons (like attached). Is it something I need to configure in the app or there are some specific setups?

Bill.

[Michael Beller]

Those should appear after you log in (but are hidden for guests).

Were you logged in?

[billmac...@gmail.com]

No I wasn't. I am looking fwd to the stable version that works out of box. Nice work btw! 

[Literate Aspects]

I am looking at your online app but do not understand its purpose. I
shows a lot of data representations, and says "Alexander Pierce" is
online.

Jon

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[Literate Aspects]

It seems to be some sort of display of 'components' ?

Looks cool, hopefully today I can discover how the 'components /
widgets' can be utilized in a project?

Thank you.

Jon

[Dave S]

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:53:34 AM UTC-7, Literate Aspects wrote:

It seems to be some sort of display of  'components' ?

Looks cool, hopefully today I can discover how the 'components /
widgets' can be utilized in a project?

Thank you.

Jon

Well, imagine your data being presented this way instead of the Dog Database.

Then take a look at the source code.

I think Michael intended this to be easy to understand .  From a quick look, you should be able to follow most of his code if you can read the examples in Chapter 3 of the Web2Py book (you've seen that link, I noticed).

/dps

[Literate Aspects]

EXCELLENT!  Dave S.  on point... thank you!

Shall do, beginning with Massimo's chapter 3.

Thank you for your kindness.

Jon