NimbusBase launches at Disrupt!

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Ray Wang

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May 12, 2013, 2:36:41 PM5/12/13
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Hi all,

Just wanted to drop in and share that NimbusBase was one of the battlefield companies launching at Techcrunch Disrupt at NYC and we were published on Techcrunch:


The traffic has definitely helped us in getting beta users and hopefully this can take a step forward in driving unhosted apps as a movement.

Thanks,
Ray

Michiel B. de Jong

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May 13, 2013, 9:52:26 AM5/13/13
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awesome, congrats! we were just talking about NimbusBase in the
#unhosted irc channel, and had a question: do you proxy the requests
that go to dropbox/gdrive at all? and if not, how does this work for
other (future) services that (may) not offer CORS? Is that also why you
require developers to sign up?


cheers,
Michiel

Ray Wang

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May 13, 2013, 1:06:22 PM5/13/13
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Hi,

We don't proxy the request at all currently, as that would still need a server.

If something doesn't support cors, and they are a big provider, we might considering doing that. Currently, there are nothing in the landscape that fits that criteria. Skydrive is the next biggest one and they seem to support cross domain stuff. (Although they have some kinks in their api)

We require developers to sign up as we believe metrics and keeping them updated is very important. I think the main reason that products die is that they don't know what their users are doing and can't evolve to adapt to their user's needs.

Thanks,
Ray

Matt

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May 13, 2013, 1:11:01 PM5/13/13
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On 05/13/2013 01:06 PM, Ray Wang wrote:
> I think the main reason that products die is that they don't know
> what their users are doing and can't evolve to adapt to their user's
> needs.

I like that line.

#matt


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May 13, 2013, 1:39:36 PM5/13/13
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Me too, fan service :-)

NimbusBase

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May 13, 2013, 9:39:31 PM5/13/13
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Thanks guys :)


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Michiel B. de Jong

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Jun 27, 2013, 5:45:37 AM6/27/13
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Hi Ray!

On 2013-05-13 19:06, Ray Wang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We don't proxy the request at all currently, as that would still need
> a server.
>
> If something doesn't support cors, and they are a big provider, we
> might considering doing that. Currently, there are nothing in the
> landscape that fits that criteria. Skydrive is the next biggest one
> and they seem to support cross domain stuff. (Although they have some
> kinks in their api)
>

what exactly are those kinks? i had a look around their docs, and found
that, although Azure supports CORS
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2013/03/18/windows-azure-new-hadoop-service-html5-js-cors-phonegap-mercurial-and-dropbox-support.aspx
I could not find any indication of SkyDrive actually providing CORS.
only people saying on stackoverflow that it doesn't.

btw, it seems that Microsoft are putting a big focus on SkyDrive with
Windows 8.1:

> Built–in cloud storage
>
> SkyDrive is now the default location for saving documents. So you
> always have your files wherever you go, even when you’re offline.
> And with the included SkyDrive app, you can manage both local
> files and SkyDrive files in one place

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/preview (via Sebastian)


Cheers,
Michiel

NimbusBase

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Jun 27, 2013, 9:38:07 AM6/27/13
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Hi Michiel,

SkyDrive supports CORS, but their biggest problem is that they don't allow file content reads directly in the browser. If they fix that one thing, everything would work for NimbusBase.

We talked to one of their product managers to get the issue flagged. But Microsoft moves slowly. We think we might be forced to proxy requests for SkyDrive and Box. They both have "kinks".

Thanks,
Ray

Kingsley Idehen

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Sep 5, 2013, 4:03:15 PM9/5/13
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On 6/27/13 9:38 AM, NimbusBase wrote:
Hi Michiel,

SkyDrive supports CORS, but their biggest problem is that they don't allow file content reads directly in the browser. If they fix that one thing, everything would work for NimbusBase.

We talked to one of their product managers to get the issue flagged. But Microsoft moves slowly. We think we might be forced to proxy requests for SkyDrive and Box. They both have "kinks".

Note, the likes of Dropbox, Skydrive, Box.net, and Google Drive, all provide URL patterns for direct access to content. Sadly, they don't do it via "Accept:" headers and content negotiation, but you can get it to work.

Read: http://bit.ly/17hMrBT .


Kingsley

Thanks,
Ray


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Michiel B. de Jong <anyt...@michielbdejong.com> wrote:
Hi Ray!

On 2013-05-13 19:06, Ray Wang wrote:
Hi,

We don't proxy the request at all currently, as that would still need
a server.

If something doesn't support cors, and they are a big provider, we
might considering doing that. Currently, there are nothing in the
landscape that fits that criteria. Skydrive is the next biggest one
and they seem to support cross domain stuff. (Although they have some
kinks in their api)


what exactly are those kinks? i had a look around their docs, and found that, although Azure supports CORS http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2013/03/18/windows-azure-new-hadoop-service-html5-js-cors-phonegap-mercurial-and-dropbox-support.aspx I could not find any indication of SkyDrive actually providing CORS. only people saying on stackoverflow that it doesn't.

btw, it seems that Microsoft are putting a big focus on SkyDrive with Windows 8.1:

Built–in cloud storage

SkyDrive is now the default location for saving documents. So you
always have your files wherever you go, even when you’re offline.
And with the included SkyDrive app, you can manage both local
files and SkyDrive files in one place

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/preview (via Sebastian)


Cheers,
Michiel


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Michiel B. de Jong

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Sep 6, 2013, 2:09:25 AM9/6/13
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Hi Kingsley,

On 2013-09-05 22:03, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> Note, the likes of Dropbox, Skydrive, Box.net, and Google Drive, all
> provide URL patterns for direct access to content. Sadly, they don't
> do it via "Accept:" headers and content negotiation, but you can get
> it to work.
>
> Read: http://bit.ly/17hMrBT [6] .

Sure, they allow you to publish something (for instance your public
key, or something else) on a URL. Dropbox and GoogleDrive even allow you
to do so via cross-origin read-write access. The cross-origin part is
important to us here, because we want users to be able to use their
storage from a web app that's on another origin.

NimbusBase is based on this idea.

Also, Niklas and Adrian are working on getting Dropbox support into
remotestorage.js. They already got most of GoogleDrive working:
https://remotestorage-browser.5apps.com/ but Dropbox is taking a bit
more effort since unlike GoogleDrive it doesn't allow you to set the
Content-Type.
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