Trac Wiki

[Stuart Cracraft]

Hi,

I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document requirements.

To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.

Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?

Stuart

[Matthew Caron]

At the bottom of the edit window.

Reference to the pages at TEO:

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiFormatting
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWiki
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[Steffen Hoffmann]

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I feel, that you need more feedback about the perception of your
behavior here. Offense is not intended at all from my side, even if you
mean to spot it.

To me, you're a very inpatient customer, who is shouting a bit too loud
for someone using software and support all for free.

Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.

Otherwise you may feel that it's no fun to answer your questions by
getting no response at all, you see.

Sincerely,

Steffen Hoffmann
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[Matthew Caron]

On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, Steffen Hoffmann wrote:
> Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
> compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
> in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.

I don't like this answer, as it makes me feel less like a genius. See, I
go looking for stuff in Trac, and with combinations of google, looking
at the DB and grepping through the source, I find what I'm looking for,
make my tweaks, do my fixes, and impress everyone with how clever I am.

Now, you come along and tell me that Trac really is this intuitive, and
that I'm not that clever, it's just so well-designed, thought out, and
documented that one of my more clever cats could install it on
Ubuntu/Postgres/Apache/WSGI/SSL/selfsigned certs.

This is really damaging to my ego and sense of self, Steffen. As a
product of the "you are a beautiful and unique snowflake" American
public school system, I demand that you state that Trac is impossible,
non-intutive, opaque and ill-documented, thus cementing the validation
of my brilliance and resourcefulness.

(For those without a sense of humor, this was facetious.)

[Stuart Cracraft]

Won't be baited by trolls however
adept with words and blame/finger-pointing.

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[Steffen Hoffmann]

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On 26.11.2013 21:32, Matthew Caron wrote:
> On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, Steffen Hoffmann wrote:
>> Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
>> compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
>> in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.
>

> (For those without a sense of humor, this was facetious.)

Nice. Even as a non-native-speaker I got the humor rather easily, even
before getting to this bottom line.

Steffen Hoffmann
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[Steffen Hoffmann]

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On 26.11.2013 21:46, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
> Won't be baited by trolls however
> adept with words and blame/finger-pointing.

Is this meant to be fun? If so I don't get it, sorry, if not I won't
care at all, as I wish to spend my time here with acting kindly and
being helpful and getting educated myself.

Steffen Hoffmann
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[Mike Dewhirst]

My Trac Wiki is on my own server and the documentation link is on the
right of the screen just above the main menu near the top of the page.
Look for "Help/Guide" beneath the search box.

If you click that link it takes you to The Trac User and Administration
Guide. You should see a Table of Contents on the right.

I mention all this because, being a wiki on your own server, you can
alter the content to make it more intuitive for yourself and/or your users.

I encourage you to do that and when you are happy with it offer it back
to the community.

As it happens you have a golden opportunity to improve the Help/Guide by
writing a specific beginner's guide - because you are currently looking
at it with the fresh eyes of a newcomer to Trac. That only happens once
for everyone.

Something I found useful making my own documentation in the wiki was the
link at the bottom of each page to download the page as plain text.
Someone here suggested that when I asked how replicate a particular
effect. Can't remember who it was but I hope I thanked him/her.

Cheers

Mike


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[Stuart Cracraft]

I'm good here. TracWiki-ing away...

[Olemis Lang]

On Dec 2, 2013 4:49 PM, "Stuart Cracraft" <smcra...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm good here. TracWiki-ing away...
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>

Hi!

You also have (at least) two other options

1. Trac Wysiwyg plugin
2. Trac plugins for different wiki text-like syntax e.g. Markdown, etc.

See trac-hacks.org ...

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