What is your TW5 plugin wishlist?

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David Gifford

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Mar 13, 2014, 8:05:33 AM3/13/14
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Hi everyone,

On GitHub I have mentioned features and fixes I would like to see for the core of TW5. And there are three or four things on the Roadmap tiddler at tiddlywiki.com that I really, really want. But beyond that, here are a few things I would really love to see as plugins for TW5. Thought I would share them with you.

Before mentioning them, though, I should take a moment to thank those who have already created some great plugins for TW5. I know Ton and Stephan have created several, Danielo has been experimenting, too, and today to my delight I discovered Martin's timeline. Wow. Thanks to all of you.

Okay, so here is my list.

1. Newhere - the ability to click a button to create a new tiddler tagged with the title of the source tiddler. Use cases: many. Image galleries. Hierarchies of notes. Etc.

2. A search plugin that lets you decide whether to search by title, tag, text, or a combination of them. Use cases: many. Most of the time I know what tiddler I am looking for, but searching a TW5 with a lot of tiddlers means that the current search mechanism doesn't filter enough to get me to it quickly. It is way down the list of search results.

3. A version of ListFiltrPlugin for TW5. See the classic version at http://listfiltr.tiddlyspace.com/#ListFiltrPlugin. I would really like to be able to create a custom list and have a way to search titles to narrow the list down. Use case: I would create an index of All tiddlers plus Missing tiddlers that I could search. That way I could create a glossary, an index, etc, by creating hyperlinks only within certain tiddlers, then have a master list of all the terms, and use that to mark progress on adding content to the terms. I would also use it like I use ListFiltrPlugin in Braintags (http://www.giffmex.org/braintags.html)

4. A plugin that would enable me to create tables rthat allow CSS formatting by cell, by column, etc. There was talk on a hangout long ago about changing the TW core table formatting. Perhaps a plugin would be a better route. I don't know. Use case: I use tables with color coding for different types of information. Also, the kind of formatting we were talking about on the Hangout would simply make cell content easier to go back and edit later, since each cell would have its own line.

5. D3 plugins will be cool and welcomed with glee by me, especially Collapsible Tree Layout and/or some kind of forced layout for something like mindmaps. But those are lesser interests of mine.

6. Masonry display of image tiddlers would also really be cool. Usecase: use TW5 like Pinterest or Flickr, to collect images or show off your own galleries.

7. Facebook and Twitter to share or 'like' a specific tiddler. There is talk of this for the core. I think it makes more sense as a plugin. But the tiddler URL feature needs to get done first before this would work. Use case: TW5 as blog.

So, there is my plugin wishlist. What is yours? I would love it if you would comment on things you'd like to see, and/or if you would say +1 to any of the items I have mentioned, if you concur.

Blessings, Dave

Stephan Hradek

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 13:05:33 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
Hi everyone,

On GitHub I have mentioned features and fixes I would like to see for the core of TW5. And there are three or four things on the Roadmap tiddler at tiddlywiki.com that I really, really want. But beyond that, here are a few things I would really love to see as plugins for TW5. Thought I would share them with you.

Before mentioning them, though, I should take a moment to thank those who have already created some great plugins for TW5. I know Ton and Stephan have created several, Danielo has been experimenting, too, and today to my delight I discovered Martin's timeline. Wow. Thanks to all of you.

Okay, so here is my list.

1. Newhere - the ability to click a button to create a new tiddler tagged with the title of the source tiddler. Use cases: many. Image galleries. Hierarchies of notes. Etc.

Use my newtiddler widget for that. Something along this lines:

<$set name="tags" value={{!!title}}>
<$newtiddler skeleton="YourYkeletonTiddler" title="YorPreferredTitle">new here</$newtiddler>
</$set>

where your skeleton must have a tag "$(tags)$" which will look like crap ;) but nevertheless work.
 

2. A search plugin that lets you decide whether to search by title, tag, text, or a combination of them. Use cases: many. Most of the time I know what tiddler I am looking for, but searching a TW5 with a lot of tiddlers means that the current search mechanism doesn't filter enough to get me to it quickly. It is way down the list of search results.

Take the filter advanced search as a starting point. It should already be possible with that.
 

Stephan Hradek

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 17:56:53 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:

2. A search plugin that lets you decide whether to search by title, tag, text, or a combination of them. Use cases: many. Most of the time I know what tiddler I am looking for, but searching a TW5 with a lot of tiddlers means that the current search mechanism doesn't filter enough to get me to it quickly. It is way down the list of search results.

Take the filter advanced search as a starting point. It should already be possible with that.
 

See "Flexible Search" on http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com

RunningUtes

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I would love to have TW5 versions of:
1) SortableGridPlugin (http://rumkin.com/tools/tiddlywiki/) a way to sort table columns
2) CheckboxPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/#CheckboxPlugin). Better checkboxes. The TW5 method is cumbersome since each entry is a separate tiddler. I would also like the ability to have inline formatting [_] and [x] that can be edited and added to text.
3) HoverMenuPlugin (http://lewcid.googlepages.com/lewcid.html#HoverMenuPlugin). I haven't been able to create one yet that is similar to this.
4) InlineJavascriptPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin). I thought that TW5 could use inline javascript natively, but many of my javascript attempts that worked in TWC don't work anymore in TW5
5) QuickEditPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPlugin) to allow for search and replace inside tiddler editing
6) TiddlersBarPlugin (http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html) I just like the top bar option. I think that this is already available with stylesheet modifications.

~Michael Dansie

David Gifford

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Cool, Stephan! I will play around with that!

Dave


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David Gifford

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Okay, Stephan, I added your Flexible search tiddler, plus the LetWidget tiddler and the ListselectWidget tiddler. Saved and reloaded.

1. The part on the left turns into "Undefined widget 'listselect'"
2. When I type in the box on the right, the tiddlers disappear.

What else do I need to do? Am I missing other required widgets?

David Gifford

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Ah! Never mind, I found the plugins and macros and the temp tiddler hiding in the system tiddlers.

Next question: Any way to alter this so that I can also see and search "missing" as well as actual tiddlers?

David Gifford

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Also, is there a way to exclude system and shadow tiddlers?

David Gifford

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Tried newtiddler, too. I put it in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewToolbar, and it grabs the skeleton tiddler and creates a tiddler with the title I used, with the fields and everything, but does not grab the title of the source tiddler and turn it into a tag on the new tiddler.

Stephan Hradek

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 20:57:38 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
Also, is there a way to exclude system and shadow tiddlers?

Sure. The usual way: "!is[shadow]!is[system]"

Stephan Hradek

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 21:10:19 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
Tried newtiddler, too. I put it in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewToolbar, and it grabs the skeleton tiddler and creates a tiddler with the title I used, with the fields and everything, but does not grab the title of the source tiddler and turn it into a tag on the new tiddler.

Then you missed something from my example. Give me a link, please.

David Gifford

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Not sure where I need to insert that...
 

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Stephan Hradek

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 21:48:49 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:

Not sure where I need to insert that...

Why don't you simply try? After there is just exactly one place in the Flexible Search tiddler where there is a filter.

Anyhow… I've updated the tiddler to have shadow and system tiddlers excluded. Just check again.

Regarding the "new here" button: If you give me a link to a tiddler where you tried to implement it, I'll check and tell you what's wrong.

David Gifford

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Hi Stephan,

First, thank you for the update to the FlexibleSearch tiddler. Works great, and I see now where I should have inserted the [!is[system]!is[shadow] snippet. I was looking down below because the listselect filter looked like a filter ([fields[]sort[title]]), whereas the list filter above had dollar signs and whatnot and didn't even look like a tiddlerfilter. Thanks for that. I tried modifying the filter to include [is[missing] and [sort[title]], but the ten or twelve ways I played with it didn't accomplish anything. No missing links were displayed, and there was either no list at all, or an error message. I am guessing your filter doesn't allow for spaces? So I am not sure how to add this to it. I will try playing with it again next week.

[!is[system]sort[title]] [is[missing]sort[title]] +[sort[title]]

Regarding the new here button, here is the link again: The file is http://giffmex.org/ReadingTW.htm and the tiddler is $:/aa/giffmex/NewHere, which has been tagged as $:/tags/ViewToolbar. My hope was that clicking it in the viewtoolbar of Tiddler A would grab the title Tiddler A and apply it as a tag to the newly created tiddler. But that doesn't happen.

The button looks huge, and I tried applying two or three spans around it, one to a class in the style sheet, and one was <span height="">, but neither paid off.

Thanks for your patient help. Blessings,



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Birthe C

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Regarding the new here button, here is the link again: The file is http://giffmex.org/ReadingTW.htm and the tiddler is $:/aa/giffmex/NewHere, which has been tagged as $:/tags/ViewToolbar. My hope was that clicking it in the viewtoolbar of Tiddler A would grab the title Tiddler A and apply it as a tag to the newly created tiddler. But that doesn't happen.

The button looks huge, and I tried applying two or three spans around it, one to a class in the style sheet, and one was <span height="">, but neither paid off.

Your SourceTemplate does not have the tag $(tags)$.
 

Leo Staley

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0) An easier and less painful way to add a top and sidebar, as well as adjusting the theme's look. I gave up after weeks and weeks of spending all my time on that trying to figure it out, and stopped because it was not healthy.
1) Tagsearch Please please please please.
2) Tagsearch Pretty pretty please??
3) x-plore  It's just so freaking nifty and useful, without all the current dozens of clicks to see less information.
4) Nested Sliders Please, please please please.
5) HistoryPlugin, so that the addressbar always displays the permaview.
6. Tagsearch
7. TiddlySnip and bookmarks (with tagsearch too??)
8) Nested Sliders
9) SimpleTreePlugin
10) ImprovedSlicesPlugin
11) InstantTimestampPlugin

Also, Dave, Have a look around TobiBeer's page. Not only is there ListFiltr, but Filtr and TagFiltr as well!  http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com

Cheers!
-Leo

Stephan Hradek

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I checked your 'New Here' button and you made 2 mistakes:

  1. Why did you put the set widget inside the button? The instructions clearly show it outside and my example in this thread also had it outside. What could I change in my instructions to make this more clear?
  2. Your "SourceTemplate" has no tag "$(tags)$" as I told you in my example in this thread and also my instructions on my tiddlyspot show that.
  3. Regarding the buttonsize: This is because you have it in an "h1".

The Flexible Search stuff can't work for missing tiddlers as missing tiddlers do not have any fields to search for and this filter searches fieldcontent. Maybe it's not really "flexible" :D

Anyhow: Maybe you can show me your attempts also in a wiki?

Stephan Hradek

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Mar 14, 2014, 3:11:24 AM3/14/14
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One addition: As you want to use titles as tags, and titles may contain spaces, the button needs to be a bit more complicated.

\define get_title(l)
$l$$(title)$]]
\end
<$set name="title" value={{!!title}}><$set name="tags" value=<<get_title "[[">>><$newtiddler skeleton="SourceTemplate" title="your title here">NewHere</$newtiddler></$set></$set>

David Gifford

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Mar 14, 2014, 3:39:11 AM3/14/14
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Hi Stephan,

Thanks for your explanations! I am leaving on a trip and will try to look at it sometime next week. Bummer about not being able to search missing, but hey, the rest of it looks pretty cool.

Dave

David Gifford

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Hi Leo,

Sorry to hear the top menu and sidebar have been so tough on you. That would be daunting for me, too. As for TobiBeer's site, look again: it is a TW classic site disguised to look like a TW5 site, if I am not mistaken. I recall him wanting his TW classic to look like 5.

Dave

Leo Staley

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Yes, that's what I meant. in addition to listfiltr, he also has tagfiltr and filtr, for TWC. I'm not quite sure on the differences, but they look really sophisticated and powerful.

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Leo Staley and me were trying to talk about this about a month ago and we crafted our own wishlists over there https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/gX707GoR6bg but it never got off the ground. I was intending to contribute as then I just finished migrating my data over to TW5, but with the recent loss of all of all of this data and increasing work loads, I was never able to find the free time to attempt to make them.

Ton Gerner

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Hi all,

My wishlist for TW5 plugins, based on the plugins I use most with TWclassic:

Tabsmacro (or plugin?) with possibility of vertical tabs and mixing horizontal and vertical tabs.
For TWclassic I use a combination of the standard Tabs macro and Saq Imtiaz's InlineTabsPlugin for mixing horizontal and vertical tabs.

Plugins from Eric Shulman:
NestedSlidersPlugin
QuickEditPlugin

Plugins from Tobias Beer:
ListFiltrPlugin
TableSortingPlugin (made by Saq Imtiaz, modified by Tobias Beer)

Plugins from Vincent Yeh:
TWtid/TWted/TWtcalc  a combination of plugins that gives you the possibility to edit wiki text in the view mode.
Although I don't use most "view mode editing" possibilities, I love the ability to edit tables in an easy way. Editing (large) tables in the "normal" way is a nightmare; now it is a piece of cake.

Cheers,

Ton

cmari

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I was just about to ask the "title with spaces" question - thank you Stephan! 
I despair at ever learning how to put brackets, dollar signs and quotation marks in the right place, so in case it's helpful to someone else, after putting together Stephan's newtiddler solution, Dave's idea of adding it to the ViewToolbar,
and Ton's helpful instructions for adding toolbar "buttons", I came up with this process for adding "New here":

Step one, get $:/plugins/skeeve/newtiddler from: http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/

Step two, save and reload

Step three, create a tiddler:
Tiddler: SourceTemplateSkeleton
Tag: $(tags)$
(Note that once the tiddler is saved the tag appears to be blank and although it will show up as a tiny bar at the top of the Tags list, you won't be able to tell what it is and it can't be added or removed like other tags)

Step four, create another tiddler:
Tiddler: $:/_Newhere
Tag: $:/tags/ViewToolbar

\define get_title(l)
$l$$(title)$]]
\end
<$set name="title" value={{!!title}}><$set name="tags" value=<<get_title "[[">>><$newtiddler skeleton="SourceTemplateSkeleton" title="your title here" class="btn-invisible">
<span title="Create a tiddler tagged with this tiddler's title">@@font-size:8pt;New here@@</span></$newtiddler></$set></$set>

Optional Step five to use an image instead of text in the toolbar:
Replace @@font-size:8pt;New here@@ with an image tiddler, e.g. {{myIcon.svg}}

Optional Step six to change the order of things on the toolbar:
By default, "New here" will appear to the right of the other icons in the toolbar.  If you want it somewhere else, open the tiddler  $:/tags/ViewToolbar and insert $:/_Newhere into the list in the order you prefer.

Optional Step seven, if you always want your newly created tiddler to have specific content, additional tags, and/or fields:
add text, tags or fields to SourceTemplateSkeleton

cmari

David Gifford

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Thanks cmari, that explanation is really helpful. I hope to try that once I am back from my business trip.


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David Gifford

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Hey cmari, I was able to play briefly this morning with your example. It was very clearly written, very helpful. The only thing wrong is that because the SourceTemplateSkeleton is tagged tags/viewtoolbar, every new here tiddler created also will have that tag...

I will experiment with having SourceTemplateSkeleton access another tiddler, not tagged that way. Not sure if I can pull it off, but I will try.

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Am Dienstag, 18. März 2014 13:53:13 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
Hey cmari, I was able to play briefly this morning with your example. It was very clearly written, very helpful. The only thing wrong is that because the SourceTemplateSkeleton is tagged tags/viewtoolbar,

Hmmmm... No, He did not write to tag the skeleton tiddler like that.

David Gifford

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Yeah, Stephan, I just saw that that didn't work. I am going back and looking at your stuff again and trying to do it the way you said.

Dave


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mat taylor

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1. Support for user accounts and simple roles based permissions. ('private' tiddlers have two fields for 'readers' and 'writers', each of which list a set of 'role' tags. User tiddlers represent user accounts which contain a 'roles' field which list the roles they have been granted. User tiddlers are only writable by 'admin'. This role list would be applied to filter any tiddlers reade from or written to the nodejs server. User tiddlers may also contain single singon tokens, or encrypted password fields which can be used for authentication. 

2. Tag types. Tags could be typed or grouped by introducing a ':' seperator eg 'system:sidebar', 'role:admin', role:public'. 'task:done'.  Typed tag fields could also be supported by using field names like 'role.tags' which would indicate and only accept values that are tags of type 'role'. This would greatly help structure wikis, and would facilitate access controls as suggested above. A tiddler of type 'type' could be used to contain a list of possible tags for that tag type.

3. Git backed syncAdapter for nodejs. All saves may trigger a commit, pull and push to orgin. If conflicts are found then the conflicted tiddler should be flagged back to the user to merge. 

4. Kanban storyview module: Render a list as a kanban board. Both swimlanes and columns could be specified as additonal list widget parameters, either as an ordered set of tags, or else as a tag type, with values that would be determined from the correspond 'type' tiddler. 
  
5. Wikirule support for rendering Plantuml diagrams. 

MetalSoviet

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WISHLIST

1. Plugin that automatically generates a Table of Contents based on tiddler's headers. Like Wikipedia.
2. Plugin to write math expressions. MathML code is good but is too tedious to write it.
3. Confirm Exit Plugin: Extra safety when exiting with unsaved changes
4. Confirm Save Plugin: If tiddlers are being edited, or there are no unsaved changes, ask before saving
5. Snapshot Plugin: Save or print HTML+CSS image of rendered document content
6. Splash Screen Plugin

Aaron

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On 03/25/2014 05:03 PM, MetalSoviet wrote:
WISHLIST

1. Plugin that automatically generates a Table of Contents based on tiddler's headers. Like Wikipedia.

There's a plugin for markdown. As far as I know, vanilla markdown doesn't do TOC.

If there were a ReST (RestructuredText) plugin, then ReST does TOC out of the box.

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Aaron

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On my list would be a journal tiddler. Title initialized with the date
(formattable), tagged "journal". A separate button from the current +
button for normal tiddlers. I think (it's been years) that classic or
MPTW had this.

I also like the TOC inside a tiddler.

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David Gifford

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Minor addition to my wish list: a link-color field so that you could set the color for all links to that tiddler. In TWC there was something called tagged template tweaks that did that. But since the 'color' field in TW5 changes the tag pill color, I wonder if there could be a similar feature for hyperlinks.

Dave

Amod Mital

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1. Plugin to write math expressions.

Pretty much the only thing preventing us from upgrading. 

Stephan Hradek

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Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2014 02:48:10 UTC+1 schrieb nfnaaron:
On my list would be a journal tiddler.
You did not search, did you?
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David Gifford

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Hi Aaron,

I think what Stephan is trying to say is that he has already created a new journal button. (Thanks again for that valuable addition to TW5, Stephan!) You can find it here.

http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/

Aaron, here is some documentation I wrote up for myself, since Stephan's documentation style tends to assume a fair bit of prior knowledge. Hope this fulfills your longing for a new journal button!

Requires $:/plugins/skeeve/let.js, $:/macros/skeeve/dateTime.js, $:/plugins/skeeve/newtiddler.js,

1. Create Skeleton tiddler, in this case we will call it JournalSkeleton

I tag it 2014. Otherwise a typical blank tiddler.

2. Create tiddler with button, in this case journalButton

<$let tag1="2014" text="">

<$newtiddler title=<<dateTime "YYYY MMM 0DD (DDD)">> skeleton="JournalSkeleton" edit="yes">New Journal</$newtiddler>

</$let>

3. Add button to tiddler from which you want to create new journals

{{journalButton}}

julien23

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Hi All

my top5 TWC plugins
I need their functionalities ported to TW5 before I can consider migrating to TW5

Regards

Julien

Danielo Rodríguez

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Apr 6, 2014, 4:25:21 PM4/6/14
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The file drop and the rename tags of te current TW5 are not powerful enough?

Danielo Rodríguez

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Apr 14, 2014, 10:21:46 PM4/14/14
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There are some new plugins at my site. Just take a look at braintest.tiddlyspot.com

Shash

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Apr 18, 2014, 2:24:48 AM4/18/14
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One plugin which I loved a lot is Tiddler bar plugin. Is there any way to get it working in TW5

Regds
Shash

Devin Weaver

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Apr 20, 2014, 6:43:09 PM4/20/14
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How about a Disqus plugin?

Matabele

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Apr 22, 2014, 5:40:45 AM4/22/14
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Hi

An import/export to .tid would be useful. With this functionality it would be possible to sync several TW's (perhaps via git or dropbox) without copying the entire file from device to device. 

Select a list of tiddlers for export; export to disk as separate .tid files; copy these .tid files to another device; re-import (or drag and drop) the .tid files into the another TW.

regards

Antoine RJ Wright

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Jun 11, 2014, 12:35:32 PM6/11/14
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Always lurking... long-time user.

My TW5 plugin wishlist is simple, but leverages how I play:
- RSS export to an external service (for ex., I use Dropbox to backup my TW. I'd like to see TW5 authenticate to such a service and only export OPML/RSS-XML)
- Send-Single-Tiddler-to Email/Socal recipient: sends WikiText or formatted tiddler (choice) to email, or link to storage-supported service (DB, Evernote, Dropbox, etc) for social sharing
- I'd like to link content libraries to TW, almost like a asset library that I can easily link into a tiddler, that way I can take from any of those storage services and easily just add the content to a tiddler w/o needing to share it, grab the URL, write the WikiText, and thensee it
- Import/Export to/from Dave Winer's Fargo.io - because these two really could work nicely together to flesh out all kinds of stuff.

Really like the development that's happening with TW5. Personally, its been very much a key part of my day to day work. If I could nail a hardware thingy on my end, it would be much, much more. These plugins would do it.
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