[TW5.1.8] TiddlyMap - show tagging links in a view?

[Matthew Petty]

I am loving the TiddlyMap plugin - thank you for making it, Felix!

I have a view which shows my home-related tasks, using the filter: [tag[task]!tag[done]tasklist[2_home]]. My tasks are tagged with each other to create a hierarchy. For example, 'Clean out garage' is tagged with the tiddler 'Household Jobs'.

I've tried to use the edge filter to show these relationships, but I can't seem to do it. How can I use the existing tagging relationships to show the edges?

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Matthew

[Matthew Petty]

Never mind, I think I figured it out.

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[Felix Küppers]

Hi Matthew!

> I am loving the TiddlyMap plugin - thank you for making it, Felix!

Thanks, you are welcome :)

> How can I use the existing tagging relationships to show the edges?

> […] Never mind, I think I figured it out.

Glad you figured it out. One thing to consider, and I sometimes make
this mistake myself as well, is that tag- and link-relationships are
only displayed in the map if they exist. I plan to make this optional
but haven't found the time so yet.
-Felix

[PMario]

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:29:28 AM UTC+2, Felix Küppers wrote:

Glad you figured it out. One thing to consider, and I sometimes make
this mistake myself as well, is that tag- and link-relationships are
only displayed in the map if they exist.

So you mean, the tag has to exist as a tiddler. right?
-m

[Felix Küppers]

yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't express myself well.

[Matthew Petty]

I do have a question actually.

So I have my task graph showing all the tasks tagged with each other in a hierachy. The edges are all "tagged with" because that is how the hierarchy works. A tiddler is a task when it is tagged with 'task'. But I don't want that node to be displayed. I have the filter including "!title[task]", but the 'task' node shows up anyway. Is there a way to force the filter to exclude nodes?

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[Felix Küppers]

Hi Matthew,

have the filter including "!title[task]", but the 'task' node shows up anyway. Is there a way to force the filter to exclude nodes?

Yes, this is a common mistake when using filters with tiddlywiki. Don't use [title:...] but [field:title[...]]

For background on this see http://tiddlywiki.com/#title%20Operator

Just try the code below:

[tag[task]!tag[done]tasklist[2_home]]

-[field:title[task]]

-Felix

[Matthew Petty]

Hi Felix,

Thanks for helping me.

I tried the code you suggested, but it still displays the 'task' node.

Node filter:

[tag[task]!tag[done]tasklist[2_home]]
-[field:title[task]]

Edge filter:
[prefix[$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/edgeTypes]]
+[suffix[tmap:tag]]

This shows the correct task nodes, plus all the nodes they are tagged with. But despite the '-[field:title[task]]', that node still shows.

Aha! I've fixed it. I had the neighbourhood switched on. So I switched that off, and now it shows just the nodes I want, with the "tagged with" links between them.

Thanks for your help!

Matthew,

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[Felix Küppers]

> Aha! I've fixed it. I had the neighbourhood switched on. So I switched
> that off, and now it shows just the nodes I want, with the "tagged
> with" links between them.

!! I would have never guessed it ;)

[Matthew Petty]

Hi Felix, one more question. In TiddlyMap, I can add an edge between two nodes, and use the 'tmap:tag' edge type. But this does not actually tag one node with another. Is it possible to do this?

It's great that I can see the tagging relationships in a view, but it would be great if I could actually add and delete tags directly in the view. Is that possible?

Thanks again for your help with this.

Best regards,

Matthew

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[Felix Küppers]

Hi Matthew,

that is not possible at the moment. TiddlyMap distinguishes between auto-generated edges and manually created edges and only allows manipulation of the latter. But I'll keep your suggestion in the back of my head, maybe I can improve it at some point :)

-Felix

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[Matthew Petty]

Felix,

I understand. Thanks for considering it!

Matthew

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[Felix Küppers]

Hi Matthew,

I created a GitHub issue based on your problem description:
https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/issues/147.

This might get resolved very soon :)

-Felix