New tiddlyclip release

[BJ]

Hi all,
I have released a new version of tiddlyclip (0.0.7-alpha) - it is available at the usual place - http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com.

New to this version is support for 'local links' - which facilitates clipping local media files (mp3, png etc) into a tiddlywiki.

Cheers

BJ

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi BJ,

That's a very useful plugin, thank you! I think it already deserves a bolder version number :-)

Cheers,

Xavier.

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[Lukas Drude]

I am curious to test the plugin but I have problems of understanding how to use/ install it.

1. I was able to install die Firefox-Plugin
2. I dragged the Shadow-Tiddle in my local installation.
3. I docked my local installation.
4. I can mark a text on a website and select "Snip", but nothing happens to my docked tiddle wiki.

Probably I just don't understand how to use the plugin. I thing a small introduction video as has been posted for tiddly wiki in general would be perfect, but I am happy with some more written details.

[BJ]

Hi Lukas,
I presume that you re-loaded your tiddlywiki after dropping the shadow tiddler onto your tiddlywiki. If this is the case then I think you have correctly installed the plugin. Have a look in the 'recent' tab on the right hand side of  your tiddlywiki to see if new tiddlers have appeared.

cheers
BJ

[Lukas Drude]

Dear BJ,

thank you for detailing on the process. I now managed to create my first clip and I would like to summarize my journey in a slightly criticizing fashion:

1. Go to http://tiddlywiki.com/
2. Download empty tiddlwiki to a local folder
3. I typed "git init" in my local folder to keep track of all my changes
4. Install the Firefox extension TiddlyFox from the same page
5. Navigate to http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/
6. Click on "New to Tiddlyclip? - click here"
7. Find the text "Try It Now" and click on it to find the Firefox extension
8. Download and install the Firefox extension from https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/raw/0.0.5-alpha/tiddlyclip.xpi
9. Click on "Getting Started"
10. Move the link "$:/plugins/bj/tiddlyclip" via drag and drop to the green bar appearing in my local tiddlywiki installation
11. Click on Import: TiddlyFox will automatically save this changes, this changes can be observed by comparing empty.html before and after the last step with git. Intrestingly enough the tiddlywiki title changes from "TiddlyWiki — a non-linear personal web notebook" to "My TiddlyWiki — a non-linear personal web notebook".
12. Reload the browser window. This will show a small black paperclip icon next to the grey tiddlywiki icons.
13. "Getting Started" doesn't help you further. Thus, navigate back to "Try It Now".
14. It now tells you to right click on "this" tiddlywiki (which is not my local installation). This confused me because I want to clip things to my local installation. I ignored this instruction and right clicked on my local installtion.
15. Now it tells you to click on "dock here". I ignored this and clicked on "Tiddlyclip Setup" and "dock to this tiddlywiki". It worked when the submenu now shows the name of your local installation with a small star in front of it.
16. Open a new webpage in the same browser window (it can be a different tab but not a different Firefox window).
17. Mark a text and instead of clicking on "tiddlyclip as" click on "Tiddlyclip using Default" and click on "Snip".
18. The git history will now indicate success.
19. Reload your local tiddlywiki and find your new tiddler by clicking on "Recent".

As you see, I spent most of the time navigating through http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/ to find all the necessary details. I propose to simplify the process with the following two suggestions:
1. Let's reduce the installation and creation of the first tiddler to a single tiddler on your webpage.
2. Let's change the introduction to match the name changes in the Firefox extension.

What is your opinion?

[Birthe C]

Hi Lukas

I think your setup complicated things for you.

A fresh download of TiddlyWiki has the title My TiddlyWiki, nothing strange about that. http://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html

I could drag the link to the browser extension to my Firefox extensions, click install now, restart browser.
Drag the plugin to my wiki, save and reload. Right click and select "dock to this tiddlywiki"

Ready to go.

Your are right of course, that http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/ also explains how to change tiddlyclip configuration for other needs, but you are able to use it pr. default.

An absolute favourite plugin.


Birthe

[BJ]

thanks!

tiddlyclip is not finish yet, (but is pretty stable.) Eventually when I find the time to finish it off, I will be a bit bolder with the version.

cheers

Jeff

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[Lukas Drude]

Dear Birthe,

your explanation now sounds easy to me, but it took my some time to extract this information from the tiddlyclip page itself.

I still recommend to recompose the installation instruction on the tiddlyclip page.

Besides this, the plugin is really great.

[BJ]

Hi Lukas,
many thanks for the detailed feedback - it is very useful. I am reviewing the documentation, considering your points, and will try to make things a bit more straightforward

cheers

BJ

[Mark S.]

This is a really exciting development. Unfortunately, it's not working on my system. When I try to right-click and snip an image with the new rules, I get an error:

  [[TITLETID]] is not a JSON.

Thanks!
Mark

TW 5.1.2
FF 33.0
Win 7

[BJ]

HI Mark,
you need to copy all the tiddlers tagged "Tc Local Rules" from http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/ into your tiddlywiki. I am changing the documentation to make things clearer.

Cheers

BJ

[Mark S.]

Thanks BJ. That works better. But it does want me to import them first, rather than immediately creating the tiddlers as it does with the other types of clips. Is this normal?

Do you think that in a future version it might be possible to create clips with relative addresses? With relative addresses, it would be possible to carry around the TW and all the supporting files on a usb stick. With absolute addresses, the path to the images will break if the hosting machine assigns a different letter to the usb drive.

Thanks!
Mark

[Birthe C]

Hi Mark
If you place your files in same folder or a subfolder to the docked tiddlywiki, you'll have no trouble carrying your TW and files on a usb stick.


Birthe

[BJ]

Hi Mark,

On Monday, January 5, 2015 10:10:43 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:

Thanks BJ. That works better. But it does want me to import them first, rather than immediately creating the tiddlers as it does with the other types of clips. Is this normal?

You can control how the clips are added by the 'MODE' column of the rule tables - adding 'inc' and 'add'. for mp3s the rule would  change to

|[[TITLETID]]||||{"$_canonical_uri":"((*@sublink(@linkURL)*))"},{"$type":"audio/mp3"}|inc add|
 

Do you think that in a future version it might be possible to create clips with relative addresses? With relative addresses, it would be possible to carry around the TW and all the supporting files on a usb stick. With absolute addresses, the path to the images will break if the hosting machine assigns a different letter to the usb drive.

As Birthe was pointing out, if you have your media files in the same dir or a sub-dir relative to your tiddlywiki, then tiddlyclip will automatically use local paths.

BJ

[Mat]

Am I doing something wrong or is this simply a limitation:

I get things to work - I can clip from all tabs... but only in the current window. In another window, there is no TW docked.

Thank you BJ for creating this extremely useful addon!

<:-)

[BJ]

Hi Mat,
I decide to have tiddlyclip 'dockings' to be limited to a window - I found it useful to have different windows docked to different tiddlywikis. - maybe I will put in a option to have 'global dockings' - if I can justify putting in the time!
cheers
BJ

[Mark S.]

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:30:43 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

Hi Mark,

As Birthe was pointing out, if you have your media files in the same dir or a sub-dir relative to your tiddlywiki, then tiddlyclip will automatically use local paths.

It's using absolute paths on mine. For instance, it I attach an image I come up with something like:

  file:///d:/data/tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.png

where the hosting tiddler is in

  file:///d:/data/tw2014.

Thanks!
Mark

FF 33 Win 7

[Mat]

'dockings' to be limited to a window - I found it useful to have different windows docked to different tiddlywikis. - maybe I will put in a option to have 'global dockings' - if I can justify putting in the time!

Hi BJ and thanks for answering. I thought I was doing something wrong. This unfortunately limits the functionality of TiddlyClip severely as don't really plan my browser window sessions. I open a new window when there are too many tabs in one or for instance when I want to open many tabs at once (such as when I read the news). "Global dockings" would definitely be very desirable so hope you can see it justified.

Thank you!

<:-)

[BJ]

HI Mark,
I have tried to reproduce the problem you have, using win7 ff33 - but I only have a c: drive,
so I tried

file:///c:/data/tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.png

where the hosting tiddler is in

  file:///c:/data/tw2014.

with this I got a relative link:

./tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.jpg

- so I don't really know what can be the problem - what is the version of tiddlyclip you are using??

BJ

[Mark S.]

Just upgraded TW in case that was the problem.

I also tried setting it up to work from the C: drive, but still got absolutes.

TW 5.1.7,Plugin 0.0.7-alpha, tiddlyclip 0.0.5

Thanks!
Mark

[BJ]

I think this maybe due to ff treating the file url as case insensitive on a window system (window file paths are case insensitive).
This means that file:///c/ and file:///C/  will both work on firefox, but tiddlyclip will see them as different urls.

So I would check the url that is in your browser tool bar - this must be exactly the same (including case) as that which appears in the firefox file browser (that is when you open file:///c/ in a new tab and then navigate to your tiddlywiki)
cheers

BJ

[Mark S.]

Great! That was the ticket!
Thanks!
Mark