How to add group for untagged tiddlers to table of contents?

[MaxGyver]

Hi all,

I'm using a contents tab in the sidebar:

<div class="tc-table-of-contents">
<<toc-selective-expandable 'Contents' "sort[title]">>
</div>

This gives me an expandable table of contents like that:

> Tag1

> Tag2

> Tag3

How can I add a group for all tiddlers without a tag?

As a workaround, I have added a filter:

<div class="tc-table-of-contents">
<<toc-selective-expandable 'Contents' "sort[title]">>
</div>
!!! Others:
<$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">

This gives me:

> Tag1

> Tag2

> Tag3

Others:

Tiddler1

Tiddler2

...

That way the untagged tiddlers are not in a expandable group and I have to update the filter everytime I add a new tag.

Is there a cleaner solution?

Best regards

Max

[Sycom]

Hi

Maybe [... !has[tags]] ?

Cheers

Sylvain
@sycom

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Max, Sylvain,

There is an untagged[] operator that returns all tiddlers that don’t have a tag:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#untagged%20Operator

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[TonyM]

To clarify

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

then you wish to automate the addition of tags to the specific set of tags without editing wiki text?

first I would start with a tag of tags E.g.: "tag group" and tag your specific set of tags. Add-on another specific tag by tagging it with the "tag group"

This is not the full solution (I'm on my mobile) but consider the use of the subfilter operator.

Regards
Tony

[MaxGyver]

Thanks for your answers!

 

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

I want all tagless tiddlers because the table of contents only lists all my tagged tiddlers.

So a filter like !has[tags] or untagged[] seems to be fine.

I would expect that these three filters return the same tiddlers (because I only use three different tags so far):

1. <$list filter="[!is[system]!has[tags]]">

1. <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">

1. <$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]">

But I get 12 vs. 45 vs. 77 tiddlers. I'll have a look into what the tiddlers missing in list 1 and in list 2 have in common.

And does anybody know how I get my filter into a foldable group like the tag groups in the table of contents?

Best regards,

Max

[Sylvain Comte]

Hello,

By the way 

* !has[tags] was not a good way to proceed. Only tiddlers WITHOUT a tags field will be listed. i.e. handcoded tiddlers since tw created ones always have a tags field,

* untagged[] is a better way and will give you also tiddlers with empty tags field,

* not sure about what !tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3] does differently in your case but I'd be interested by your investigations (system tags?)

Cheers

Sylvain

@sycom

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[Max Schillinger]

Thanks for clarifying!

<$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]"> was wrong!

It must be <$list filter="[untagged[]!is[system]]"> instead.

That's very similar to <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">.

The latter is more complete. It contains the same tiddlers as the version with untagged[] plus all tiddlers tagged for example:

• TableOfContents
• $:/tags/RawMarkup
• $:/tags/Stylesheet
• $:/tags/SideBar
• $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut

These are not included in the regular table of contents nor in the untagged group.

So I'm going to keep using <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">. I don't introduce new tags that often :-)

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[Mark S.]

A version that's somewhat easier to maintain, assuming your tags have no spaces or special characters:

<$list filter="[!is[system]] -[enlist[Tag1 Tag2 Tag3]tagging[]]" >

</$list>

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 at 10:45:26 AM UTC-8, MaxGyver wrote:

Thanks for clarifying!

<$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]"> was wrong!

It must be <$list filter="[untagged[]!is[system]]"> instead.

That's very similar to <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">.

The latter is more complete. It contains the same tiddlers as the version with untagged[] plus all tiddlers tagged for example:

• TableOfContents
• $:/tags/RawMarkup
• $:/tags/Stylesheet
• $:/tags/SideBar
• $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut

These are not included in the regular table of contents nor in the untagged group.

So I'm going to keep using <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">. I don't introduce new tags that often :-)

Am Mo., 4. Nov. 2019 um 23:07 Uhr schrieb Sylvain Comte <sylvai...@gmail.com>:

Hello,

By the way 

* !has[tags] was not a good way to proceed. Only tiddlers WITHOUT a tags field will be listed. i.e. handcoded tiddlers since tw created ones always have a tags field,

* untagged[] is a better way and will give you also tiddlers with empty tags field,

* not sure about what !tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3] does differently in your case but I'd be interested by your investigations (system tags?)

Cheers

Sylvain

@sycom

Le lun. 4 nov. 2019 à 22:15, MaxGyver <maximilian...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Thanks for your answers!

 

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

I want all tagless tiddlers because the table of contents only lists all my tagged tiddlers.

So a filter like !has[tags] or untagged[] seems to be fine.

I would expect that these three filters return the same tiddlers (because I only use three different tags so far):

1. <$list filter="[!is[system]!has[tags]]">
2. <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">
3. <$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]">

But I get 12 vs. 45 vs. 77 tiddlers. I'll have a look into what the tiddlers missing in list 1 and in list 2 have in common.

And does anybody know how I get my filter into a foldable group like the tag groups in the table of contents?

Best regards,

Max

Am Sonntag, 3. November 2019 23:37:13 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:

To clarify

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

then you wish to automate the addition of tags to the specific set of tags without editing wiki text?

first I would start with a tag of tags E.g.: "tag group" and tag your specific set of tags. Add-on another specific tag by tagging it with the "tag group"

This is not the full solution (I'm on my mobile) but consider the use of the subfilter operator.

Regards
Tony

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[TonyM]

Max,

Later you can look at grouping here https://tiddlywiki.com/#GroupedLists

Regards

Tony

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 5:45:26 AM UTC+11, MaxGyver wrote:

Thanks for clarifying!

<$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]"> was wrong!

It must be <$list filter="[untagged[]!is[system]]"> instead.

That's very similar to <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">.

The latter is more complete. It contains the same tiddlers as the version with untagged[] plus all tiddlers tagged for example:

• TableOfContents
• $:/tags/RawMarkup
• $:/tags/Stylesheet
• $:/tags/SideBar
• $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut

These are not included in the regular table of contents nor in the untagged group.

So I'm going to keep using <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">. I don't introduce new tags that often :-)

Am Mo., 4. Nov. 2019 um 23:07 Uhr schrieb Sylvain Comte <sylvai...@gmail.com>:

Hello,

By the way 

* !has[tags] was not a good way to proceed. Only tiddlers WITHOUT a tags field will be listed. i.e. handcoded tiddlers since tw created ones always have a tags field,

* untagged[] is a better way and will give you also tiddlers with empty tags field,

* not sure about what !tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3] does differently in your case but I'd be interested by your investigations (system tags?)

Cheers

Sylvain

@sycom

Le lun. 4 nov. 2019 à 22:15, MaxGyver <maximilian...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Thanks for your answers!

 

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

I want all tagless tiddlers because the table of contents only lists all my tagged tiddlers.

So a filter like !has[tags] or untagged[] seems to be fine.

I would expect that these three filters return the same tiddlers (because I only use three different tags so far):

1. <$list filter="[!is[system]!has[tags]]">
2. <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">
3. <$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]">

But I get 12 vs. 45 vs. 77 tiddlers. I'll have a look into what the tiddlers missing in list 1 and in list 2 have in common.

And does anybody know how I get my filter into a foldable group like the tag groups in the table of contents?

Best regards,

Max

Am Sonntag, 3. November 2019 23:37:13 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:

To clarify

You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?

then you wish to automate the addition of tags to the specific set of tags without editing wiki text?

first I would start with a tag of tags E.g.: "tag group" and tag your specific set of tags. Add-on another specific tag by tagging it with the "tag group"

This is not the full solution (I'm on my mobile) but consider the use of the subfilter operator.

Regards
Tony

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[MaxGyver]

@Mark:

<$list filter="[!is[system]] -[enlist[Tag1 Tag2 Tag3]tagging[]]" >

Yes, that looks cleaner. Thanks.

@Tony:

Later you can look at grouping here https://tiddlywiki.com/#GroupedLists

This indents my list at least but it's still very different than the rest of the table of contents.

I suppose the cleanest solution would be to add a macro based on toc-selective-expandable.

\define toc-selective-expandable-include-untagged(tag,sort:"",itemClassFilter,exclude,path)
<$vars tag=<<__tag__>> sort=<<__sort__>> itemClassFilter=<<__itemClassFilter__>> path={{{ [<__path__>addsuffix[/]addsuffix<__tag__>] }}}>
  <$set name="excluded" filter="""[enlist<__exclude__>] [<__tag__>]""">
    <ol class="tc-toc toc-selective-expandable">
      <$list filter="""[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag<__tag__>!has[draft.of]$sort$] -[<__tag__>] -[enlist<__exclude__>]""">
        <$list filter="[all[current]toc-link[no]]" variable="ignore" emptyMessage=<<toc-selective-expandable-empty-message>> >
          <$macrocall $name="toc-unlinked-selective-expandable-body" tag=<<__tag__>> sort=<<__sort__>> itemClassFilter=<<__itemClassFilter__>> exclude=<<excluded>> path=<<path>>/>
        </$list>
      </$list>
    </ol>
  </$set>
</$vars>
\end

<div class="tc-table-of-contents">
<<toc-selective-expandable-include-untagged 'Table of contents'  "sort[title]">>
</div>

Maybe I can somehow add an untagged[]-filter to the list created in that macro. But it's like learning a new programming language :-(

Best regards,

Max