Exception error while trying to calibrate .bsn file

[Katie Merriman]

Hello,

Whenever I add .bsn parameters to SWAT-CUP, I get "Error: An Exception happened while editing parameter number 4"

I don't think I have the  format wrong as I copied and pasted from an example, here is what I am using:

v__SFTMP.bsn    -2   0

v__SMTMP.bsn    0   2.5

v__SMFMX.bsn    3   4.5

v__SMFMN.bsn    1   3

v__TIMP.bsn    0.01   1

thanks!

Katie

[Abbaspour, Karim]

Make sure they are all in your Absolute parameter files.

Karim

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[Katie Merriman]

Thanks for your quick reply.  However, these parameters were already in the Absolute_SWAT_Values.txt file

any other suggestions?

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Katie Merriman

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[Abbaspour]

I run without any problem. Do you have the latest version of the program?

Are those the only parameters in the par_inf file?

[Katie Merriman]

Dr. Karim,

I have tried both with and without the .bsn parameters.  I get the exception error only with .bsn parameters.  I have tried other parameters, other than just the sno ones, from .bsn and they fail as well.  I am using version 5.1.6.2 with 64-bit and SWAT2012.

[Abbaspour, Karim]

That does not make much sense! Do you have a basin file in the project?! Else send me all your project to have a look.

[Katie Merriman]

yes I have a basin file; however, it was empty.  It appears that many of my files were not properly copied over when the SWAT-CUP project folder was made.  I have 103 subbasins, and it looks like there only 72 of the subbasins were copied.  I recopied my SWAT TxtInOut directory into the SWAT-CUP folder and the problem appears to be solved for the moment.

Does SWAT-CUP have an HRU or any other size limit?

[Abbaspour, Karim]

Has a limit but it is in the tens of thousands.. 

Karim

[Katie Merriman]

I have 28,000 HRUs. I didn't think that should be a problem.

I am still having problems, however, as my SWAT-CUP run for 1 simulation and then hangs and doesn't finish or calculate statistics. It sat here at this point all weekend.  What do I need to check?

[Abbaspour]

This problem is usually caused by wrong timing between swat and swatcup or wrong number of observation in observed_rch file. Check files in Echo for a clue.

Karim

[Katie Merriman]

Thank you I did have an error in the format of the observed data.

 i am still trying to get this working correctly, so I'm only running 1 simulation with a daily timestep. I have only values of 0 populate the simulated column of the best_sim.txt. I don't think my reach was extracted from the .rch file. I was only trying to look at rch 55, however, my FLOW_OUT_55. txt in the SUFI2.OUT folder only has a "1" printed in it. My output.rch file is not empty, so I am baffled as to what is going on now.

My warm-up period is 2000-2002, and I am running from 2003-2014.  My observed data I am using begins in 2012-2014, but eventually I want to add in another downstream gage that has data 2003-2007, but want to get this figured out first before adding more complications.  I have listed my inputs below the screen shot.

Observed_rch.txt:

1     : number of observed variables

5     : Objective function type, 1=mult,2=sum,3=r2,4=chi2,5=NS,6=br2,7=ssqr,8=PBIAS,9=RSR

0.5   : min value of objective function threshold for the behavioral solutions

FLOW_OUT_55   : this is the name of the variable and the subbasin number to be included in the objective function

1015   : number of data points for this variable as it follows below. First column is a sequential number from beginning

      : of the simulation, second column is variable name and date (format arbitrary), third column is variable value.

3277 FLOW_OUT_355_2011 0.2598

3278 FLOW_OUT_356_2011 0.2541

3279 FLOW_OUT_357_2011 0.2654

3280 FLOW_OUT_358_2011 0.2174

....

var_file_rch.txt:

FLOW_OUT_55.txt

SUFI2_extract_rch.def:

output.rch     : swat output file name

1              : number of variables to get

7            : variable column number(s) in the swat output file (as many as the above number)

103              : total number of reaches (subbasins) in the project

1              : number of reaches (subbasins) to get for the first variable

55            : reach (subbasin) numbers for the first variable (ordered)

2003           : beginning year of simulation not including the warm up period

2014           : end year of simulation

1              : time step (1=daily, 2=monthly, 3=yearly)

Observed.txt:

1     : number of observed variables

5     : Objective function type, 1=mult,2=sum,3=r2,4=chi2,5=NS,6=br2,7=ssqr,8=PBIAS,9=RSR

0.5   : min value of objective function threshold for the behavioral solutions

FLOW_OUT_55   : this is the name of the variable and the subbasin number to be included in the objective function

1     : weight of the variable in the objective function

-1    : Dynamic flow separation. Not considered if -1. If 1, then values should be added in the forth column below after observations

-1    : constant flow separation, threshold value. (not considered if -1)

1     : if separation of signal is considered, this is weight of the smaller values in the objective function

1     : if separation of signal is considered, this is weight of the larger values in the objective function

10    : percentage of measurement error

1015   : number of data points for this variable as it follows below. First column is a sequential number from beginning

      : of the simulation, second column is variable name and date (format arbitrary), third column is variable value.

3277 FLOW_OUT_355_2011 0.2598

3278 FLOW_OUT_356_2011 0.2541

3279 FLOW_OUT_357_2011 0.2654

3280 FLOW_OUT_358_2011 0.2174

var_file_name.txt:

FLOW_OUT_55.txt

[Abbaspour, Karim]

You have an old version of the program, but still it should work. Send file.cio to have a look.

Karim

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[Katie Merriman]

I just downloaded off the SWAT website 2-3 weeks ago?  there is a newer version?

[Abbaspour, Karim]

 No, but perhaps you opened an old project with it. It is best to build a new project and transfer your data from the old to the new project.... It takes just a few copy pastes

Karim 

<file.cio>

[Katie Merriman]

No, I did not copy an old SWAT-CUP project - I built a new SWAT-CUP project with the new version. I did copy and paste my files from my SWAT project in the SWAT-CUP file because it did not appear to copy all the files. I have 103 subbasins and it stopped copying at subbasin 71. Could this cause the error?

I sent my file.cio with the last email.

[Abbaspour, Karim]

If you give the address of txtinout the program should copy everything. If it didn’t, then something is not correct. Your inputs appear to be correct, but I don’t know why you have to simulate from 2003 (already have 3 years warm up period), but you only have data from 2011?

Karim

[Katie Merriman]

My observed data begins in 2012-2014, but eventually I want to add in another downstream gage that has data 2003-2007. I started with the longer simulation period, because I was concerned about keeping consistency btw date/time w/SWAT runs. I was running SWAT for this longer period (2000-2014).  I will try to create a new SWAT-CUP project with just the shorter time period.

[Abbaspour, Karim]

Ok, but this is not the problem. If it did not work out send me the project to have a look.

Karim

On Jul 30, 2015, at 21:24, Katie Merriman <katie.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

My observed data begins in 2012-2014, but eventually I want to add in another downstream gage that has data 2003-2007. I started with the longer simulation period, because I was concerned about keeping consistency btw date/time w/SWAT runs. I was running SWAT for this longer period (2000-2014).  I will try to create a new SWAT-CUP project with just the shorter time period.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Abbaspour, Karim <Karim.A...@eawag.ch> wrote:

If you give the address of txtinout the program should copy everything. If it didn’t, then something is not correct. Your inputs appear to be correct, but I don’t know why you have to simulate from 2003 (already have 3 years warm up period), but you only have data from 2011?

Karim

 

 

 

From: swat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:swat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Merriman
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Subject: Re: Exception error while trying to calibrate .bsn file

 

No, I did not copy an old SWAT-CUP project - I built a new SWAT-CUP project with the new version. I did copy and paste my files from my SWAT project in the SWAT-CUP file because it did not appear to copy all the files. I have 103 subbasins and it stopped copying at subbasin 71. Could this cause the error?

 

I sent my file.cio with the last email.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Abbaspour, Karim <Karim.A...@eawag.ch> wrote:

 No, but perhaps you opened an old project with it. It is best to build a new project and transfer your data from the old to the new project.... It takes just a few copy pastes

Karim 

On Jul 30, 2015, at 19:49, Katie Merriman <katie.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just downloaded off the SWAT website 2-3 weeks ago?  there is a newer version?

 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Abbaspour, Karim <Karim.A...@eawag.ch> wrote:

You have an old version of the program, but still it should work. Send file.cio to have a look.

Karim

On Jul 30, 2015, at 18:48, Katie Merriman <katie.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you I did have an error in the format of the observed data.

 i am still trying to get this working correctly, so I'm only running 1 simulation with a daily timestep. I have only values of 0 populate the simulated column of the best_sim.txt. I don't think my reach was extracted from the .rch file. I was only trying to look at rch 55, however, my FLOW_OUT_55. txt in the SUFI2.OUT folder only has a "1" printed in it. My output.rch file is not empty, so I am baffled as to what is going on now.

My warm-up period is 2000-2002, and I am running from 2003-2014.  My observed data I am using begins in 2012-2014, but eventually I want to add in another downstream gage that has data 2003-2007, but want to get this figured out first before adding more complications.  I have listed my inputs below the screen shot.

 

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