Teasy Strike suddenly stopped working.

[Andy Rector]

I bought and installed a Teasy Strike S about a week ago, and it worked perfectly up until last night. I plugged it into my PS3, and it said unknown usb device connected. I plugged it into my Xbox, and got nothing. I plugged it into my PC, and the xbox guide button flashed once, then nothing. Not detected at all. I took it apart, re-set everything, and it was detected by my PC. I unplugged it to see if it would detect it in Dual Strike mode, and it just detected it as Madcatz TE-S. I then tried to get it to go into Dual Strike mode again, but it just didn't detect it at all, one guide button flash then off. After that I took it apart, clipped the leads, re-set everything again, checked connectivity with a multimeter and everything was fine. Hooked it up to my PC, and it detected it. Unplugged it and plugged it back in holding start so I could update the firmware, but it just says device not found after running the .bat, and then it just completely stops being detected again. 

So confused.

[Clayton Knight]

Andy,

Ignoring the Dual Strike detection for a minute, when you say it detects the 360 stick on PC/360, does that mean ONLY by forced mode, and not auto-detect?

-Clayton

[Clayton Knight]

Ok, so when you plug it into the PC with HK held, what comes up? Unknown device or literally nothing at all, not even in the Device Manager?

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

It auto detects as a 360 stick when I plug it into my PC.

[Clayton Knight]

Andy,

Is it safe to assume you know your way around a multi-meter? I need you to do something for me.

Unclip the 360 PCB, make absolutely sure the punch terminals are completely punched down into the wire. Then plug the USB cable into your PC, and then I want you to take voltage measurements on the little 4066 chip, the small chip toward the front of the TEasy Strike, labeled IC1.

Place the multimeter in DC Voltage mode, and put the black probe on GROUND, you can put it on the spot where the GND pogo is if you want, then put the red probe on each of the legs of that 4066 chip.

Please take readings and report back with PIN/Voltage measurements.

Don't worry about pin numbers too much, if it helps just make a small table with the location and voltage and I'll understand. I just need to know which pin has what voltage when it's plugged in.

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing at all. Xbox guide button flashes once and thats it. Can't get it to detect the stick at all now.

[Clayton Knight]

Forwarding to support thread.

-Clayton

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Teasy Strike suddenly stopped working.
To: Clayton Knight <phreaka...@gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now that I think about it, I think it stops detecting it when I try to force a mode. Going to try that and then get you the readings.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Got it to detect again. Sending a picture showing it being detected and the buttons working properly.

[Clayton Knight]

Summary:

Yes, looking straight down on the board the readings were :

5.07 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 

0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 3.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02

While pressing nothing, it detected it as Madcatz TE-S. While pressing HK/Start/LK/MP it detected it as Madcatz TE-S.

Any ideas guys? Worked for a little bit, came back and it didn't work any more, now it only does pass-through.

Michael, I'm assuming the control lines are all brought up during power on to a safe state via I/O configuration?

-Clayton

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Teasy Strike suddenly stopped working.
To: Clayton Knight <phreaka...@gmail.com>

While pressing nothing, it detected it as Madcatz TE-S. While pressing HK/Start/LK/MP it detected it as Madcatz TE-S.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah I'll send it out. It's going to drive me insane not knowing what the problem is. Everything was great, I was playing some MvC3, took a break, then tried to play again and it wouldn't work. It doesn't make any sense to me.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Clayton Knight <phreaka...@gmail.com> wrote:

Andy,

In the essence of ease, can you do me a favor and just ship it to me so I can take a look, and if need be replace the parts that might be causing the issue. I think that switching chip may have crapped out.

Just ship it first class to make things inexpensive.

Clayton Knight
1340 Brook Street
Apartment E
Saint Charles, IL 60174

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, looking straight down on the board the readings were :

5.07 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 

0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 3.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know if it was recognized. Every time it stops detecting it, I have to re-seat everything and I don't know how much more the plastic brackets can take. One has already broken off at the hinge. Connectivity is still fine between the pins though. If the madcatz pcb isn't in place, how can I get it to detect it and get the readings off the dual strike?

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Clayton Knight <phreaka...@gmail.com> wrote:

Andy,

Are those readings taken when the stick is recognized as the 360 stick, or unrecognized at all?

Can you give me readings from both of those situations?

Also, do you mean the pins like this (looking straight down at the board):
TOP:        1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
BOTTOM: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

That was current, I don't think thats what you were looking for. For the VDC readings, the only two pins that showed any real reading were the first pin on the top, and the fourth pin on the bottom. First pin read 5.07, fourth pin on the bottom read 3.02.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

The only pin showing any reading is the first pin on the top row. It's showing .89.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now that I think about it, I think it stops detecting it when I try to force a mode. Going to try that and then get you the readings.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Andy Rector <rect...@gmail.com> wrote:

Got it to detect again. Sending a picture showing it being detected and the buttons working properly.

[Michael Pohl]

> Summary:
>
> Yes, looking straight down on the board the readings were :
>
> 5.07 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02
> 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 3.02 - 0.02 - 0.02 - 0.02
>
> While pressing nothing, it detected it as Madcatz TE-S. While pressing HK/Start/LK/MP it detected it as Madcatz TE-S.
>
> Any ideas guys? Worked for a little bit, came back and it didn't work any more, now it only does pass-through.
>
> Michael, I'm assuming the control lines are all brought up during power on to a safe state via I/O configuration?

Sure, all input/output registers and pull-up settings are done at initialization time.
Guesses based on those readings:
-if you have a common ground plane in the design, there could be shorts from the signal lines to the plane
-the internal pull-up resistors/the switching logic for those are busted
-the MCU is totally dead

> While pressing nothing, it detected it as Madcatz TE-S. While pressing HK/Start/LK/MP it detected it as Madcatz TE-S.

That contradicts the above readings, as no switches are supposed to be on... ???
This should only occur if the USB cable is still connected to the TE PCB...

[Clayton Knight]

Andy,

Hey, before you do anything further, do me a favor with something.

You said a clip is busted right?

I don't know if it was recognized. Every time it stops detecting it, I have to re-seat everything and I don't know how much more the plastic brackets can take. One has already broken off at the hinge. Connectivity is still fine between the pins though. If the madcatz pcb isn't in place, how can I get it to detect it and get the readings off the dual strike?

I need you to check and double check that when clipped in, the START/HK buttons have continuity from the actual button data line to the pogo pin, like purplearms shows in his videos.

In the picture you showed me, you didn't show the START/SELECT buttons being held down and functioning, I want to make absolutely sure the connectivity is there between the two boards before you go ahead and send it back to me.

If the clip is broken, you can circumvent that with a rubber band for now just for testing purposes.

-Clayton

[Clayton Knight]

Sorry, let me clarify.

The string of values was taken with the TE PCB unclipped, and the TEasy Strike plugged into the PC USB port.

The second statement is with the TE PCB clipped in, meaning it will not do forced modes, but autodetection works, and any attempts to do a forced mode are unregistered and it does pass-through anyway.

Could be a bad chip, but when he sends it to me I'm going to put the Dual Strike USB lines directly to the outgoing connection to attempt to force a connection.

-Clayton

[Michael Pohl]

On 17.02.2011, at 22:34, Clayton Knight wrote:

> Sorry, let me clarify.
>
> The string of values was taken with the TE PCB unclipped, and the TEasy Strike plugged into the PC USB port.
>
> The second statement is with the TE PCB clipped in, meaning it will not do forced modes, but autodetection works, and any attempts to do a forced mode are unregistered and it does pass-through anyway.

Shouldn't there be 14 readings? He only measured only one side of the 4066?

[nguyen...@gmail.com]

I know this is 3 years later but I'm currently having the exact same problem. Was this ever resolved?

[Clayton Knight]

I don't believe it was. I've moved on from the TEasy Strike's setup and am currently using something else with the Cerberus.

-Clayton

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[Jochen Zurborg]

Is the HID Boot device still working?

 

Press Start while plugging it into win pc. Check devices for hid boot. If such device exists, re-programm firmware.

 

 

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[Dennis Nguyen]

Do you have any products that are compatible with my te round 2? Because I was actually about to order that last night but the description said it wasn't compatible with my stick

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[Clayton Knight]

Dennis,

Not as plug and play outright, no unfortunately. You can technically make the cerberus work with a round 2, but it takes some extra effort with pin bending and cutting of shrouding to do it. You'd also have to put the USB cable back on the original PCB since the Cerberus interfaces the USB differently than the TEasy did.

-Clayton