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Steven Angelos

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Sep 22, 2025, 1:58:20 PM9/22/25
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Alex,
I would like to do The Rescue for my first project. I'm just finishing reading it and think that it would be good starting point. 

Outside of Szymon, I didn't see anyone else talking about it. 
Just let me know what you think.

Steven

Alex Cabal

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Sure, but as part of our process you have to read the book cover to
cover again. If you just read it, are you sure you want to do that
again, so soon?
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Alex Cabal

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OK, sure.

In the future please reply to the mailing list thread instead of me privately.

There's an epigraph, dedication, and preface, so include those before the half titlepage. This book has a subtitle, which you'll have to include in the metadata and half titlepage. 

The book is divided into parts, see the manual for how to structure that. PG has removed the formatting from the chapter headers so make sure to restore that. They may have also removed more formatting like italics, so please eyeball the page scans to see if there are any italics or other formatting, like letters, to restore.

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Have fun! :)

Steven Angelos

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Alex,
I'm almost finished with The Rescue and have an idea for the cover image and wanted to run it past you.
I'm looking at "View of Talagabodas" by Raden Saleh which I think will work well with the other two Lingard books' covers.  'An Outcast of the Islands' cover is also a by Raden Saleh. I'm not finding references to painting in past publications

Here is a link to the high res image.  
Let me know what you think.

Steven

Alex Cabal

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I don't think you ever wrote back with a repo link, so a project was
never created for you. Can you send a link to your repo, and then we
will assign a manager and reviewer?

On 1/16/26 1:50 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> Alex,
> I'm almost finished with The Rescue and have an idea for the cover image
> and wanted to run it past you.
> I'm looking at "View of Talagabodas" by Raden Saleh which I think will
> work well with the other two Lingard books' covers.  'An Outcast of the
> Islands' cover is also a by Raden Saleh. I'm not finding references to
> painting in past publications
>
> Here is a link to the high res image <https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/
> Javanese-Landscape--View-of-Talagabodas/F742DFB52E78006F00A954055B16849E>.
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Steven
>
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, sure.
>
> In the future please reply to the mailing list thread instead of me
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>
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Steven Angelos

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Alex,

Thanks

Alex Cabal

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OK, Vince will manage with David reviewing.

Did you find PD proof of your image? see
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/single-page#10.3.3.7

On 1/16/26 4:08 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> Alex,
> Sorry about that. Here's the link: https://github.com/steven-angelos/
> joseph-conrad_the-rescue.git
>
> Thanks
>
> On Friday, January 16, 2026 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> I don't think you ever wrote back with a repo link, so a project was
> never created for you. Can you send a link to your repo, and then we
> will assign a manager and reviewer?
>
> On 1/16/26 1:50 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> > Alex,
> > I'm almost finished with The Rescue and have an idea for the
> cover image
> > and wanted to run it past you.
> > I'm looking at "View of Talagabodas" by Raden Saleh which I think
> will
> > work well with the other two Lingard books' covers.  'An Outcast
> of the
> > Islands' cover is also a by Raden Saleh. I'm not finding
> references to
> > painting in past publications
> >
> > Here is a link to the high res image <https://www.mutualart.com/
> Artwork/ <https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/>
> > Javanese-Landscape--View-of-Talagabodas/
> F742DFB52E78006F00A954055B16849E>.
> > Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > On Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, sure.
> >
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> >
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> > before the half titlepage. This book has a subtitle, which you'll
> > have to include in the metadata and half titlepage.
> >
> > The book is divided into parts, see the manual for how to structure
> > that. PG has removed the formatting from the chapter headers so make
> > sure to restore that. They may have also removed more formatting
> > like italics, so please eyeball the page scans to see if there are
> > any italics or other formatting, like letters, to restore.
> >
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Steven Angelos

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Alex,
Unfortunately I wasn't able to find any copyright information for the two images I previously mention.

After going down a couple of images which just led to more rabbit holes.
So I circled back images that have already been cleared for SE and found one that I think will work.
It won't match the other two Lingard books' covers but it definitely works for the book. 
There is a pivotal scene in the book with Lingard and Mrs. Travers on the water at night that the image matches.

I'm thinking of 'Point Judith, Rhode Island' by Martin Johnson Heade. 
Crop it around the middle of the image, including the single boat and the moon and I think it will work.

Just let me know.
Thanks,

Vince

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Please do a mock-up so we can see what it looks like with the title-bar on it.

Steven Angelos

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Vince,
Here you go.
If we were to use it would we clean up the cracks on the painting surface?

Thanks,
Steven Angelos



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PossibleCover_The-Rescue_Conrad.jpg

Alex Cabal

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I don't think those cracks look too bad compared to others I've seen,
but you could try running a filter over the whole thing to smooth them
out a tiny bit, to see how it looks.

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> Vince,
> Here you go.
> If we were to use it would we clean up the cracks on the painting surface?
>
> Thanks,
> Steven Angelos
> 859.322.2369
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 4:28 PM Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org
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> Please do a mock-up so we can see what it looks like with the title-
> bar on it.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2026, at 3:23 PM, Steven Angelos
>> <steven.a...@gmail.com <mailto:steven.a...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Alex,
>> Unfortunately I wasn't able to find any copyright information for
>> the two images I previously mention.
>>
>> After going down a couple of images which just led to more rabbit
>> holes.
>> So I circled back images that have already been cleared for SE and
>> found one that I think will work.
>> It won't match the other two Lingard books' covers but it
>> definitely works for the book.
>> There is a pivotal scene in the book with Lingard and Mrs. Travers
>> on the water at night that the image matches.
>>
>> I'm thinking of 'Point Judith, Rhode Island' by Martin Johnson Heade.
>> Crop it around the middle of the image, including the single boat
>> and the moon and I think it will work.
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Steven Angelos

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This is work is ready for review.
Thanks,

Alex Cabal

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se lint is throwing a large amount of errors. Please run that tool and
correct everything it notes. Then write again and we'll review this.

On 5/19/26 2:58 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> This is work is ready for review.
> Thanks,
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 2:12:58 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> I don't think those cracks look too bad compared to others I've seen,
> but you could try running a filter over the whole thing to smooth them
> out a tiny bit, to see how it looks.
>
> On 2/28/26 4:22 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> > Vince,
> > Here you go.
> > If we were to use it would we clean up the cracks on the painting
> surface?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steven Angelos
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Also note that many of them refer to quotes around book names. Book
names are italicized and not quoted, so remove quotes from around all
book titles.

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> Thanks,
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 2:12:58 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> but you could try running a filter over the whole thing to smooth them
> out a tiny bit, to see how it looks.
>
> On 2/28/26 4:22 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> > Vince,
> > Here you go.
> > If we were to use it would we clean up the cracks on the painting
> surface?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steven Angelos
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Alex,
I've removed the double quotes around the book titles in the preface. I was still receiving an error with the single quotes around Narcissus on line 16. I replaced them with double quotes. Would that be the correct formatting? Se lint no longer generated an error after that change so I wasn't sure if it's correct or just ignored.
Also corrected the epigraph styles.

I have a couple more questions after running se lint. 
  • chapter-1-2.xhtml: Line 143 and chapter-3-9.xhtml: Line 76 - Title not correctly titlecased (<i epub:type="se:name.vessel.ship">Ly-e-moon</i>)
    • I assumed since this was a name of a vessel I would leave it the way it is in the source. Would capitalizing 'moon' be be correct and also do the same for the 'e'?
  • chapter-5-5.xhtml: Line 70 - Possible typo: Punctuation not within ’.  (... the ‘Man of Fate’,” ...)
    • Should I be wrapping Man of Fate with an emphasis instead of the single quotes? Or do I need a hair space before the comma?
Thanks,

Alex Cabal

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You don't need single quotes either for book titles, only italics. See
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#8.2.11

On 5/25/26 2:08 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> Alex,
> I've removed the double quotes around the book titles in the preface. I
> was still receiving an error with the single quotes around Narcissus on
> line 16. I replaced them with double quotes. Would that be the correct
> formatting? Se lint no longer generated an error after that change so I
> wasn't sure if it's correct or just ignored.
> Also corrected the epigraph styles.
>
> I have a couple more questions after running se lint.
>
> * *chapter-1-2.xhtml: Line 143 and chapter-3-9.xhtml: Line 76* - Title
> not correctly titlecased (<i epub:type="se:name.vessel.ship">Ly-e-
> moon</i>)
> o I assumed since this was a name of a vessel I would leave it the
> way it is in the source. Would capitalizing 'moon' be be correct
> and also do the same for the 'e'?
> * *chapter-5-5.xhtml: Line 70 *- Possible typo: Punctuation not within
> ’.  (... the ‘Man of Fate’,” ...)
> o Should I be wrapping Man of Fate with an emphasis instead of the
> single quotes? Or do I need a hair space before the comma?
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 12:57:59 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Also note that many of them refer to quotes around book names. Book
> names are italicized and not quoted, so remove quotes from around all
> book titles.
>
> On 5/19/26 2:58 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> > This is work is ready for review.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 2:12:58 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > I don't think those cracks look too bad compared to others I've
> seen,
> > but you could try running a filter over the whole thing to smooth
> them
> > out a tiny bit, to see how it looks.
> >
> > On 2/28/26 4:22 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> > > Vince,
> > > Here you go.
> > > If we were to use it would we clean up the cracks on the painting
> > surface?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steven Angelos
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Alex,
I'll remove the quotes around the word Narcissus in preface. What of my other issues that se lint flagged?
Thanks 

Alex Cabal

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Vince is managing this so he will help you. However you can review the
manual of style to see what it says about the items that are causing errors.

On 5/26/26 3:44 PM, Steven Angelos wrote:
> Alex,
> I'll remove the quotes around the word Narcissus in preface. What of my
> other issues that se lint flagged?
> Thanks
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 3:21:57 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> You don't need single quotes either for book titles, only italics. See
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Vince is managing this so he will help you. 
Well, he’s supposed to be. He’s had a lot going on the last couple of days, sorry about that…

It’s not clear to me from either of the uses of Ly-e-moon what, if anything, that word is, i.e. is it of a person, a thing, made up, what? In the cases of publications, we always alter to title case; here, it seems to me to be a bit up in the air. Does Ly-E-Moon make more sense? If you know from reading the book what it is, then that might make it more obvious what to do. Otherwise, I’d probably just add an ignore entry.

For Man of Fate, the error says exactly what the problem is. Commas and periods go inside all punctuation. And then you’ll need to rerun typogrify, because there should be a hairspace between the single and double quote.

Paul Andinach

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"Ly-e-moon" is a romanization of the name of a place in Hong Kong. The
current standard romanization is "Lei Yue Mun"; Wikipedia notes
various other versions that have been used in the past, which are not
consistent about how the component parts are capitalized. Enough of
them capitalize only the first letter that one could argue a precedent
for keeping Conrad's capitalization.

Since Conrad's "Ly-e-moon" is a ship, I'll note that Wikipedia also
has an article on a ship called the SS Ly-ee-Moon, which appears to
have been usually represented with a lower e and an upper M, although
the article also cites a contemporary source that used "Ly-Ee-Moon".

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Excellent, thanks, Paul. In that case I would title case it, editorial.

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Steven Angelos

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Vince,
I've made the and committed the changes.
Let me know if you see anything else.
Thanks,
Steven

Alex Cabal

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How are we doing on this one?
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I believe that I’ve fixed the issues but was waiting to hear if there was anything else that I needed to do. 


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Is it ready for review? If so, that message may have been lost in the rest of the discussion. If it’s ready, David’s up for the review.

David

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It looks like this is ready for review (not least because there's a commit titled "Ready to be reviewed"). I'll get to this in the next few days, Steven.

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Is it ready for review? If so, that message may have been lost in the rest of the discussion. If it’s ready, David’s up for the review.

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Well, the first issue of the review is going to be renaming that commit,
because that doesn't describe what was done to the repo.
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Thanks David 


Thank you,
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Good job getting to this point, Steven. I think we've got a ways to go yet, and we should do this in a couple passes at least.

I've put up a review which involves *only*  renaming a number of commits. If you haven't done git rebases before, this is a fairly simple place to start. (Let me know if you need any pointers.)

Please ping me from GitHub once those are dealt with, and I'll move on to the next phase of the review. Thanks!

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