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We must be bungling it up somehow. Is there some secret app.yaml sauce that I should be investigating to optimize cost (over a dynamic f1 config)?
At 120 clients, we're seeing 'Backend Instance Hours' chew away at our demo app engine budget at a fairly alarming rate... despite app engine cost reductions, we're looking at well over what Knut was seeing :/
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I made the changs on the 11th and on the 12th it cost $5.35 to run for the day
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I think the issue is i’m not understanding the Daily Billing Export. I’ve attached what i’ve got
Thanks Justin! I'll follow up on Monday and let you know what it's looking like
On Thursday, January 14, 2016, 'Justin McWilliams' via Simian Discuss <simian-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Michael Holt <mh...@reallifechurch.org> wrote:I think the issue is i’m not understanding the Daily Billing Export. I’ve attached what i’ve gotNote the Start Time and End Time columns. This export includes Jan 7th-11th, one line per billable type (so multiple lines per day), totaling $5.53 for those 5 days.Jan 7th-10th your daily average was $1.29, whereas Jan 11th was only $0.39. If you deployed earlier on Jan 11th, that could be an explanation for the drastically decreased cost. Backend Instances dropped from ~87-92K seconds (~$1.20-$1.30) to ~29K seconds ($0.35). All other billable lines are either around a penny or a fraction of a penny, for all listed days, so it seems the real potential for savings here is indeed instance uptime.It would be interesting to see if your Billable Instances remains ~1/3 of previous levels. 4 crons which previously ran every 10-30 minutes now run every 1-4 hours, so it's very possible. Let's see what your numbers look like tomorrow or Monday...
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Just as an FYI, back when you could adjust the instances using the slider. I set ours to only have 1 instance running total. We have 31 clients that check in the normal once an hour. We don't push many packages though. We have it push updates to Java and Flash if they have it installed in the first place. Our daily cost is .01 usually with the occasional .02.
Not sure if it helps,-Josh
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 11:35:02 AM UTC-5, Michael Holt wrote:
Thanks Justin! I'll follow up on Monday and let you know what it's looking like
On Thursday, January 14, 2016, 'Justin McWilliams' via Simian Discuss <simian-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Michael Holt <mh...@reallifechurch.org> wrote:I think the issue is i’m not understanding the Daily Billing Export. I’ve attached what i’ve gotNote the Start Time and End Time columns. This export includes Jan 7th-11th, one line per billable type (so multiple lines per day), totaling $5.53 for those 5 days.Jan 7th-10th your daily average was $1.29, whereas Jan 11th was only $0.39. If you deployed earlier on Jan 11th, that could be an explanation for the drastically decreased cost. Backend Instances dropped from ~87-92K seconds (~$1.20-$1.30) to ~29K seconds ($0.35). All other billable lines are either around a penny or a fraction of a penny, for all listed days, so it seems the real potential for savings here is indeed instance uptime.It would be interesting to see if your Billable Instances remains ~1/3 of previous levels. 4 crons which previously ran every 10-30 minutes now run every 1-4 hours, so it's very possible. Let's see what your numbers look like tomorrow or Monday...
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Josh M <joshua.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:Just as an FYI, back when you could adjust the instances using the slider. I set ours to only have 1 instance running total. We have 31 clients that check in the normal once an hour. We don't push many packages though. We have it push updates to Java and Flash if they have it installed in the first place. Our daily cost is .01 usually with the occasional .02.No longer available as a slider in the Cloud console, but you can configure this in app.yaml. See the docs on "automatic_scaling", "basic_scaling", and "manual_scaling" as well as instance class: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/modules/#Python_Instance_scaling_and_class
Not sure if it helps,-Josh
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 11:35:02 AM UTC-5, Michael Holt wrote:
Thanks Justin! I'll follow up on Monday and let you know what it's looking like
On Thursday, January 14, 2016, 'Justin McWilliams' via Simian Discuss <simian-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Michael Holt <mh...@reallifechurch.org> wrote:I think the issue is i’m not understanding the Daily Billing Export. I’ve attached what i’ve gotNote the Start Time and End Time columns. This export includes Jan 7th-11th, one line per billable type (so multiple lines per day), totaling $5.53 for those 5 days.Jan 7th-10th your daily average was $1.29, whereas Jan 11th was only $0.39. If you deployed earlier on Jan 11th, that could be an explanation for the drastically decreased cost. Backend Instances dropped from ~87-92K seconds (~$1.20-$1.30) to ~29K seconds ($0.35). All other billable lines are either around a penny or a fraction of a penny, for all listed days, so it seems the real potential for savings here is indeed instance uptime.It would be interesting to see if your Billable Instances remains ~1/3 of previous levels. 4 crons which previously ran every 10-30 minutes now run every 1-4 hours, so it's very possible. Let's see what your numbers look like tomorrow or Monday...
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Looks like we're staying within the free limits when it comes to Billable Instances. I've attached the daily export for the last few days and don't see anything for Instances now.
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 8:28:45 AM UTC-8, Justin McWilliams wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Josh M <joshua.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:Just as an FYI, back when you could adjust the instances using the slider. I set ours to only have 1 instance running total. We have 31 clients that check in the normal once an hour. We don't push many packages though. We have it push updates to Java and Flash if they have it installed in the first place. Our daily cost is .01 usually with the occasional .02.No longer available as a slider in the Cloud console, but you can configure this in app.yaml. See the docs on "automatic_scaling", "basic_scaling", and "manual_scaling" as well as instance class: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/modules/#Python_Instance_scaling_and_class
Not sure if it helps,-Josh
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 11:35:02 AM UTC-5, Michael Holt wrote:
Thanks Justin! I'll follow up on Monday and let you know what it's looking like
On Thursday, January 14, 2016, 'Justin McWilliams' via Simian Discuss <simian-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Michael Holt <mh...@reallifechurch.org> wrote:I think the issue is i’m not understanding the Daily Billing Export. I’ve attached what i’ve gotNote the Start Time and End Time columns. This export includes Jan 7th-11th, one line per billable type (so multiple lines per day), totaling $5.53 for those 5 days.Jan 7th-10th your daily average was $1.29, whereas Jan 11th was only $0.39. If you deployed earlier on Jan 11th, that could be an explanation for the drastically decreased cost. Backend Instances dropped from ~87-92K seconds (~$1.20-$1.30) to ~29K seconds ($0.35). All other billable lines are either around a penny or a fraction of a penny, for all listed days, so it seems the real potential for savings here is indeed instance uptime.It would be interesting to see if your Billable Instances remains ~1/3 of previous levels. 4 crons which previously ran every 10-30 minutes now run every 1-4 hours, so it's very possible. Let's see what your numbers look like tomorrow or Monday...
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