A modified Buss conjecture

35 views
Skip to first unread message

Davide Rotondo

unread,
Jun 21, 2026, 4:32:41 AM (3 days ago) Jun 21
to SeqFan
Hello all, dear prime number enthusiasts. This morning I tried using the Buss conjecture, but instead of starting by taking the smallest prime greater than f(n) + 1, I considered the smallest prime that, when concatenated to f(n), yields a prime number.

I get:

1...13...3
3...37...7
21...2111...11
231...23117...17
3927...392723...23
...

I think you always get prime numbers. I think the assumptions for the Buss conjecture can be adapted for this method... what do you think?

Davide

Davide Rotondo

unread,
Jun 21, 2026, 2:27:34 PM (3 days ago) Jun 21
to seq...@googlegroups.com
 I considered the smallest number different from 1 that, when concatenated to f(n), yields a prime number.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "SeqFan" group.
To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/seqfan/ki7brNHj_rI/unsubscribe.
To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to seqfan+un...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/seqfan/d04953e9-a74a-4418-8717-eb84a765ec49n%40googlegroups.com.

Davide Rotondo

unread,
Jun 23, 2026, 9:46:34 PM (8 hours ago) Jun 23
to SeqFan
I have a question for you. Does this method also work for Lucky and Ludic numbers?

Davide

M F Hasler

unread,
Jun 23, 2026, 10:28:59 PM (8 hours ago) Jun 23
to seq...@googlegroups.com
On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 9:46 PM Davide Rotondo <david...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question for you. Does this method also work for Lucky and Ludic numbers?

Which method? 

On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 2:27 PM Davide Rotondo <david...@gmail.com> wrote:
 I considered the smallest number different from 1 that, when concatenated to f(n), yields a prime number.

OK - because it is trivial that you get primes, if you only consider primes, as you wrote first.

Yes, your condition is probably stronger than that from Buss. Both of your formulas,
Buss's B(n) = nextprime(f+1)-f  and your D(n) = min{ k>1 | isprime(concat(f,k)) }
produce a number that cannot have a common factor with f = product of earlier terms.
(Because if p divides k and f, then also concat(f,k) = f*10^n+k.)
Your formula is more restrictive, because it allows at once only k's ending in 1, 3, 7 or 9,
which BTW excludes 2 & 5, so your sequence can't have all primes as Buss's does.
(Buss's condition excludes 2 and 5 only after they have appeared.)

In both cases, a composite candidate k would have to have two or more prime factors
that did not appear earlier, which requires such candidates to be increasingly large
(at least the square of the smallest prime not yet seen),
and this lower bound is in general much larger than many primes which don't divide f.
Both of your formulas take the smallest available candidate with gcd(f,k) which 
"accidentally / by chance" yields a prime when added or concatenated to f.

Maximilian
PS:
Your sequence starts [3, 7, 11, 17, 23, 19, 13, 29, 37, 41, 67, 53, 71, 47, 97, 109, 113, 107, 31, 151, 59, 73, 127, 43, 131, 101, 137, 157, 103, 227, 149, 181, 223, 193, 211, 241, 167, 251, 79, 83, 163, 347, 197, 173, 293, 263, 367, 307, 257, 463, 383, 239, 179, 419, 571, 577, 283, 89, 373, 823, 379, 233, 541, 929, 617, 619, 631, 709, 673, 1231, 547, 199, 947, 1171, 449, 397, 311, 953, 349, 191, 409, 139, 317, 601, 431, 271, 457, 613, 509, 719, 811, 647, 659, 967]

(PARI)
f=1; for(n=1,99,forstep(k=3,oo,2, isprime(eval(Str(f,k)))&& print([n,f,k])+(f*=k)&&break)))

Davide Rotondo

unread,
Jun 23, 2026, 11:09:05 PM (7 hours ago) Jun 23
to seq...@googlegroups.com
Thank you very much Mr. Hasler

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "SeqFan" group.
To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/seqfan/ki7brNHj_rI/unsubscribe.
To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to seqfan+un...@googlegroups.com.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages