Phonetic IME Software for typing in Devanagari etc.

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Venkatesh

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Dec 7, 2011, 7:23:14 AM12/7/11
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Dear friends,

I have tried to develop a software for typing Devanagari, e-Grantha (including Vedic accents for both), Kannada, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu and roman/IAST scripts. The IME is phonetic ie. you type devanaagarii to get देवनागरी and shriimaan veGkaTanaathaaryaH to get श्रीमान् वेङ्कटनाथार्यः।

Besides, the IME also supports transcripting Unicode-to-Unicode and Non-Unicode-to-Unicode.

The platform is Windows.

More details available in the User's reference manual.

To download, go to the following links->goto "File" menu->click "Download"

The software is free for all purposes.

Kindly send your feedback to bhas...@gmail.com

BhashaIME User Reference.pdf - https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4uo7Dp5rwXSZTQ5MGY0ZTItOWQyOC00OTQ2LThmOGMtODJlYmEyZGFkODE2
BhashaIME550.exe - https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4uo7Dp5rwXSNTcyNWZkMGEtZjU3My00NThlLWI1NTMtOGUxNzNkYjU4MTQ1

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Venkat

Eddie Hadley

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Dec 8, 2011, 10:19:49 AM12/8/11
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Venkat and all,

Splendid work with the IME.

And it does indeed work in Windows 7.

Now, speaking as one of the many Devanagari challenged Westerners, not to mention keyboard challenged one finger typist ones, the ideal Western user friendly system for editing Sanskrit, would display the Devanagari only as the end product.

I envisage a two frame window, similar to the still useful Itranslator, but without the onscreen English graffiti.

The user types happily away in graffiti speak as usual, but the screen shows Romanised diacritics.

Editing being done directly with the Romanised text.

Meanwhile, the Devanagari script, (on view or not, as desired) magically arises above, squiggle by squiggle, ligatures and all.

 

My finger(s) types                         saMskR^ita

my eyes see                               saṁskṛta

and the wizard conjures up    संस्कृत

All while I am directly editing saṁskṛta.

 

There are no shortage of available apps., online or offline, that do the business, but in their confusing graffiti languages.

They were essential in the pre-Unicode era, but surely we are long overdue for some post ASCII sophistication.

Anglicised capitals included, so to give Saṁskṛta while retaining संस्कृत.

 

Eddie

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murthy

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Dec 8, 2011, 11:08:30 AM12/8/11
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Dear Vekateshji,
It works for Word alright. But it does not work for Frontpage. I have Windows 2003.
Regards
Murthy
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Eddie Hadley

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Dec 8, 2011, 11:29:06 AM12/8/11
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Venkat,
 
    Thank you for passing on the benefit of your valuable experience:
 
"Adobe's reader, foxit reader etc., are all buggy and result in a lot of gibberish"
 
To add to that, I can now say that Adobe's commercial Convert-to-pdf offering, also turns out to be pretty useless, as I have recently discovered the hard way.
 
From the docs that come with your BhashaIME, I followed up on your ref. to "PDF Xchange Viewer".
That too, is indeed very good.
 
For programmers, there is their PDF-XChange Lite http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-lite
The free version now includes source code in a variety of visual programming languages (including C# .NET).
I have found that it works very nicely with those .pdf's with Roman diacritics (Nicely for me, that is!).
 
But, as always, embedded customised Devanagari fonts are another matter!
 
With some knowledge of how to remap from one encoding scheme to another (and a lot of spare time) it might well be be possible to get results, further investigation is needed . . .
 
Anything that helps to make Sanskrit, and especially its script, easier to read, is very welcome.
 
Eddie
 

Eddie Hadley

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Dec 8, 2011, 11:58:51 AM12/8/11
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Correction to an earlier post ...
 
“To add to that, I can now say that Adobe's commercial Convert-to-pdf offering, also turns out to be pretty useless, as I have recently discovered
the hard way.”
 
I do mean to refer to their convert from pdf package.
 
 
    Eddie
 

yajva

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Dec 9, 2011, 2:22:35 AM12/9/11
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Dear friends,

Thanks for you kind words.

I have uploaded a new version with a bug-fix for Transcription, but
for which, the s/w is the same.

Warm regards
Venkat

On Dec 8, 8:19 pm, "Eddie Hadley" <EddieHad...@Ontology.demon.co.uk>
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> Venkat and all,
>
> Splendid work with the IME.
>
> And it does indeed work in Windows 7.
>

>
> Eddie
>

Naresh Cuntoor

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Feb 20, 2013, 1:53:42 PM2/20/13
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Congratulations on your effort. While I appreciate it, I'd like to ask you how different it is from BARAHA IME, another open source software.  It works with all MS Office

Is Baraha open source?

Phani Kumar

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Feb 20, 2013, 8:39:00 PM2/20/13
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Congratulations. Is a Mac version on the way?

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Maulik D. Mavani <maulik...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Venkat ji,
 
Congratulations on your effort. While I appreciate it, I'd like to ask you how different it is from BARAHA IME, another open source software.  It works with all MS Office documents, and also on online html or other interactive web pages.
It transliterates input into several scripts, almost all representing the Indian Constitution's scheduled languages.
 
How can your efforts be evolved to improve tagging of online available content in Indian languages?
How can online translation services be made more grammatically correct and "SMART"? Awaiting your valuable inputs.
 
Namaskar.
Maulik Mavani.

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Anunad Singh

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Feb 21, 2013, 2:31:55 AM2/21/13
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देवनागरी लेखनाय उपलब्धाः प्रमुख आईएमई

Sreenadh OG

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May 19, 2013, 11:53:14 AM5/19/13
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Dear Venkatesh ji,
   I will send some sample text to your gmail id bhashaime_at_gmail.com
Love and regards,
Sreenadh


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM, yajva <nsvnar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sri Sreenadh

Both the fonts you mention use the same glyph space. So a simple transliteration won't do. The Transliterator needs read each character along with the associated font info, then transliterate. Obviously the text needs to be in a form which retains the font info for each char (eg, HTML, RTF etc) and not plain text. If you can send a couple of pages of your original text I my be able to help ; of course at my leisure :)

Regards
Venkatesh


On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:12:45 AM UTC+5:30, Sreenadh OG wrote:
Dear Venkat,
  Congratulations for your excellent software. In search to type in IAST using some tools I found your's and loved it! By the way, I have some mixed non-unicode (DV-TTSurekh and DV1-TTSurekh) text which contain both Devanagari and romanscript with phonetic symbols, coupled with normal english. Is there a way I can convert 100s of such pages into Unicode in one go? Is there available any tool that can help me on this?
Love and regards,
Sreenadh

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Ramesh Krishnamurthy

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May 20, 2013, 9:12:08 AM5/20/13
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I wanted to use Bhasha IME to type in IAST. It works well except that I am unable to figure out how to get capital letters with the diacritic marks. Any help?

Divya Sthali

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Mar 24, 2014, 2:26:44 PM3/24/14
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Thanks for the wonderful software with out installing asian languages iam able to type asian languages.thanks once again. i tried to convert the non unicode fonts to unicode any solution for this....

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Divya Sthali

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Mar 31, 2014, 3:28:35 PM3/31/14
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waiting for the updated one which converts non unicode to unicode

Hnbhat B.R.

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Mar 31, 2014, 10:41:14 PM3/31/14
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Can I get Sanskrit 1998 font document converted into any Unicode Sanskrit font? either Sanskrit 2003 or any other font?


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yajva

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Apr 1, 2014, 5:53:46 AM4/1/14
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Sri Divya Sthali

The updated ver (716) is already available. Download from the BhashaIME site, unzip the .7z file. (You will find a bunch of T_*.txt files which are the conversion rules). The IME has Transliterate1 and Transliterate2 Menus, under which you will find a number of non-unicode to Unicode selections.

Pl remember that converions from non-uni to uni is not a generic one, but specific to each non-uni font. I have included conversions for those which I have come across or have been requested for. If you cannot find what you need here, let me know. I can probably write a converter for it.

Regards
Venkatesh

yajva

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Apr 1, 2014, 8:11:08 AM4/1/14
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Sri Bhat

Yes. Copy the attached file to where BhashaIME716.exe is located. Restart the IME. You will see a new entry under Transliterate2 for Sanskrit 98 -> Uni Devanagari. The converted text will be Unicode, which you can convert to any font of your liking (Siddhanta/Sanskrit 2003)

NB. I do not have texts prepared with Sanskrit98 font; could not test the conversion tables. Pl. report any errors, which I shall correct.

Regards
Venkatesh
T_Sanskrit98_2_UDev.txt

Sreenadh OG

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Apr 1, 2014, 10:03:01 AM4/1/14
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Dear Venkatesh ji,
  The service you are doing is highly appreciable. I bow down to it. Hugs.
Love and regards,
Sreenadh


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Hnbhat B.R.

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Apr 1, 2014, 11:41:26 AM4/1/14
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I could not see under transliterate Sanskrit1998 > UniDev in the transliterate menu.

Taff Rivers

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Apr 1, 2014, 11:52:26 AM4/1/14
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Professor,


On Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:41:14 UTC+1, hnbhat wrote:
Can I getfont document converted into any Unicode Sanskrit font? either Sanskrit 2003 or any other font?


As you may know, Sanskrit 98 is used by the ITranslator software.
An ASCII text source file with the .itx extension was provided as input and legacy font Devanagari (Sanskrit 1998) as output.
The current incarnation - iTranslator 2003 accepts the self-same ASCII text file as input, but generates Unicode output in user selected font.

So, you could track down the original document, (probably with same name but with an .itx extension)...

These files can then be directly viewed in Devanagari or Roman international transliteration using Itranslator for PC with version 98, 99, 2003 of Itrans.

I have just given it a try, and it works fine.


Taff,

   One time iTranslator beta tester for the reverse translation (Devanagari to Itrans/Roman transliteration) version of version 2003


 


yajva

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Apr 1, 2014, 12:36:41 PM4/1/14
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Sri Bhat

I have attached entire package. Pl download attached .7z file and unzip. Start the IME. Under "Transliterate2" menu, you will have "Sanskrit 98 -> Uni Dev" (not Sanskrit1998). Copy the text to be converted to clipboard, invoke "Sanskrit 98 -> Uni Dev", wait for completion and paste to the target editor.

Regards
Venkatesh
BhashaIME716B2.7z

yajva

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Apr 1, 2014, 12:50:53 PM4/1/14
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Sri Bhat,

I tried attaching the IME here, but google reponded saying the message is deleted. Apparently Google does not allow .7z files to be attached. So I have uploaded the file to the Google drive. Here's the download link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4uo7Dp5rwXSZDJmbndvZ2ZPWFU/edit?usp=sharing

Pl download, unzip, start the new IME. You will be able able to see "Sanskrit 98 -> Uni Dev" under "Transliterate2" menu. (not Sanskrit1998).

Regards
Venkatesh


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Divya Sthali

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Apr 1, 2014, 3:29:01 PM4/1/14
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Thanks for ur efficient work, iam looking for anu to unicode converter  which is available in the url http://eemaata.com/font2unicode/index.php5 but it is written in php server side it's not woking  in offline mode ....so request u to have a look of it

Hnbhat B.R.

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Apr 1, 2014, 9:52:32 PM4/1/14
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:20 PM, yajva <nsvnar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sri Bhat,

I tried attaching the IME here, but google reponded saying the message is deleted. Apparently Google does not allow .7z files to be attached. So I have uploaded the file to the Google drive. Here's the download link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4uo7Dp5rwXSZDJmbndvZ2ZPWFU/edit?usp=sharing

Pl download, unzip, start the new IME. You will be able able to see "Sanskrit 98 -> Uni Dev" under "Transliterate2" menu. (not Sanskrit1998).

Regards
Venkatesh


​I had downloaded the file from the link. But could not see the menu either Sanskrit 98 or 1998.

The Gmail doesn't allow attachments of executable files as their policy either in zipped or as attachments files.

No problem. I downloaded the one provided by Anunada Simha and converted the text successfully.

Thanks for your efforts. I will download this new pack too and check. ​

Divya Sthali

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Apr 2, 2014, 8:31:51 AM4/2/14
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Namasthe Great thanks for the software iam able to transliterate between any unicode to unicode but the transliterate2 menu iam not getting can any pls do let me know how can i convert the nonunicode  Baraha, sd-surekh this to unicode iam only getting transliterate menu only transliterate 2 menu iam not geeting pls do me afavour

Regards

yajva

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Apr 2, 2014, 10:42:29 AM4/2/14
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Sri Divya Sthali

Pl download the latest IME from https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4uo7Dp5rwXSZDJmbndvZ2ZPWFU/edit?usp=sharing, unzip and use.

Please post our queries to bhas...@gmail.com as these may not be relevant to this list.

regards
Venkatesh
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