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Gunner Asch

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Apr 23, 2010, 1:08:38 PM4/23/10
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Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of Sociology at Illinois State
University and continuing Visiting Scholar at Stanford University 's
Hoover Institution. She is a member of the American Sociological
Association and the American Philosophical Association. She has been a
John M. Olin Foundation Faculty Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished
Alumni of the Year by the National Association for Equal Opportunity in
Higher Education.

In fall 1988 she was one of a select group of intellectuals who were
featured in Bill Moyer's television series, "A World of Ideas." The
transcript of her conversation with Moyers has been published in his
book, A World of Ideas.

Dr. Wortham is author of "The Other Side of Racism: A Philosophical
Study of Black Race Consciousness" which analyzes how race consciousness
is transformed into political strategies and policy issues.

She has published numerous articles on the implications of
individual rights for civil rights policy, and she is currently writing
a book on theories of social and cultural marginality.

Recently she has published articles on the significance of
multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in education, the politics of
victimization and the social and political impact of political
correctness. Shortly after an interview in 2004, she was awarded
tenure.

The article below was written by her soon after the election of
Barack Obama. It is well worth your time to read.



Fellow Americans,

Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did
not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for
president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require
a Black president to know that I am a person of worth and that life is
worth living. I do not require a Black president to love the ideal of
America.

I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is
no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of
triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I
would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human
flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history of the
United States of America, all that I know about American race relations,
and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician. I would have to
deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America.

Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding
that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have
been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual
liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to
evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your
success and mine depends. I would have to think it somehow rational
that 94 percent of the 12 million Blacks in this country voted for a man
because he looks like them (that Blacks are permitted to play the race
card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites
who voted for him because he doesn't look like them.

I would have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind
of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts
in his administration - political intellectuals like my former
colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

I would have to believe that "fairness" is the equivalent of
justice. I would have to believe that a man who asks me to "go forward
in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking
in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that
economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly
believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government
force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living
of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive, and the
generators of wealth.

Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the
scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park,
Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" I would have to wipe all
memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists,
editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is
dead - and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to
their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic
mentality that they want to replace with their own version of
anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.

So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have
elected a Black man to the office of the president of the United States,
the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane
Fonda is over - and Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must
be very happy men. Jimmy Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last
gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists
in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected
a Black person.

So, toast yourselves 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and
90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your
glee, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford and Berkeley. You have
elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a Black
man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - Do
Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon
Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your
freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
good.

There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness. God
Help Us All!

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 23, 2010, 8:48:42 PM4/23/10
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On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you have also foolishly traded your
> freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
> good.


Gumby, you are free to refuse free health care ...

Gunner Asch

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Apr 24, 2010, 4:51:22 AM4/24/10
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Why should I?

Its that manditory payment to private companies health care that I am
concerned about.

Say...lets pass a law that makes it manditory for you to pay $2k a year
to the NRA.

Up for it?

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Steve Lusardi

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Apr 24, 2010, 5:10:12 AM4/24/10
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Free Heath Care is NOT free, nor is it efficient use of other people's money. You obviously do not care about that, because you
are not a member of the "other".
I am and I for one, resent having to pay for your health care. I don't sleep with you. You don't fix my car or cut my grass. I
don't even know you Why should I or any other member of the "other" pay for your health care? My obligation to you is to do my
utmost to support a health care policy that allows you, at a fair affordable price, to buy your own health care.

What we see today in our government is what happens when within the voting public, the receivers outnumber the contributors.
National failure will be the inevitable result, because the contributors are the people that make things happen and they will have
no choice but to vote with their feet.
Steve

"Jessica Wabbit" <ja...@rock.com> wrote in message news:8cfed4a4-4c87-4090...@h21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 24, 2010, 7:46:53 AM4/24/10
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On Apr 24, 4:51 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
>
> <ja...@rock.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  you have also foolishly traded your
> >> freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
> >> good.
>
> >Gumby, you are free to refuse free health care ...
>
> Why should I?


On principle; which you have none anyway.

Gunner Asch

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Apr 24, 2010, 8:00:02 AM4/24/10
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 04:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
<ja...@rock.com> wrote:

>On Apr 24, 4:51 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
>>
>> <ja...@rock.com> wrote:
>> >On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>  you have also foolishly traded your
>> >> freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
>> >> good.
>>
>> >Gumby, you are free to refuse free health care ...
>>
>> Why should I?
>
>
>On principle; which you have none anyway.

As long as the Leftwing have given everyone free medical..Why not take
it?

In fact..a year ago, I did exactly that.

Now Ive a 3 way bypass scar, am recovering slowly from a stroke 6 weeks
to the day later..and they have stopped sending me that pesky $275,000
bill.

Thanks for paying it for me Jessie..and for keeping me alive for a very
long time in the future, so I can spank your leftwing ass.

Nice job!!!

Kudos!

Shall not be infringed

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Apr 24, 2010, 10:38:04 AM4/24/10
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On Apr 24, 5:10 am, "Steve Lusardi" <stevenos...@lusardi.de> wrote:
> Free Heath Care is NOT free, nor is it efficient use of other people's money. You obviously do not care about that, because you
> are not a member of the "other".
> I am and I for one, resent having to pay for your health care. I don't sleep with you. You don't fix my car or cut my grass. I
> don't even know you Why should I or any other member of the "other" pay for your health care? My obligation to you is to do my
> utmost to support a health care policy that allows you, at a fair affordable price, to buy your own health care.

Allows or forces?

> What we see today in our government is what happens when within the voting public, the receivers outnumber the contributors.
> National failure will be the inevitable result, because the contributors are the people that make things happen and they will have
> no choice but to vote with their feet.
> Steve

Traditionally it has been called "white flight." But blacks and
hispanice that have something on the ball leave, too.

> "Jessica Wabbit" <ja...@rock.com> wrote in messagenews:8cfed4a4-4c87-4090...@h21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...

Message has been deleted

Shall not be infringed

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Apr 24, 2010, 7:39:39 PM4/24/10
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On Apr 24, 6:59 pm, sittingduck <d...@spamherelots.com> wrote:
> F*ck you, you f*cking f*cks!
> by Colorado is the Shiznit
> Sat Apr 24, 2010 at 10:38:26 AM PDT
>
> I am your neighbor, your mail carrier, your cable repairman, your grocer,
> your hairstylist, your cousin's best friend, your daughter's playdate, your
> mother's podiatrist, your Chinese food delivery boy.
>
> I am the poor, the disenfranchised, the scared, the minority, the illegal.
>
> And I am not nearly as stupid as you think I am.
>
> Just because you spout the Politics of Hate, and mistakenly call yourselves
> a "major political party" in America, don't think I can't see right through
> you. I can.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves. Sideways. And you might as well use that stick
> up your ass to do it.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for that Jim Crow-esque new law in Arizona. I
> cannot even believe that shit. You really expect people like me to think
> that you're not racist, apartheid-starting dickheads? Do you think I'm EVER
> going to travel to Arizona now? Btw, thanks a bunch for scaring the bejesus
> out of my girlfriend's extended family; they're planning to move to New
> Mexico next week because of this illegal new law. Honorable mention to
> Sheriff Joe Arpaio for making the political environment crumble enough so
> that Arizona could pass this absolute piece of crap.
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for all that violent rhetoric that keeps making
> the nightly news. You keep shutting down congressional offices, throwing
> bricks through windows, spitting on congresspeoples, sending talcum powder
> to congresspeoples, hurling racist and homophobic epithets at
> congresspeoples, comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler, planning to
> kill a bunch of cops, doing your damndest to make Roe v. Wade obsolete,
> attempting to destroy IRS buildings and personnel, hating on Teh Gay,
> denying global warming, threatening armed revolution, misspelling woefully
> misguided picket signs, refusing to get your facts straight, and
> intimidating everyone who doesn't share your twisted worldview.
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for your lack of journalistic integrity. You
> give a very large microphone to straight-up xenophobes such as Glenn Beck,
> Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin,
> Erick Erickson, and Lou Dobbs. As if that weren't enough, the "mainstream
> media" then echoes these pathetic, small-minded voices by giving legitimacy
> to elected fuck-ups like Michele Bachmann, Steve King, Tom Tancredo, Tom
> Coburn, James Inhofe, Jim DeMint, Jeff Sessions, Rick Perry, Virginia Foxx,
> Haley Barbour, Bob McDonnell, Ken Cuccinelli, and Sarah Palin.
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for legalizing torture. You began illegal
> detentions, wrote and passed The Patriot Act (both 1 and 2), caused Abu
> Ghraib, increased black sites all over the world, instituted spying on
> American citizens, outted a CIA agent you had a vendetta against, penalized
> whistle blowers, increased executive power exponentially, started two God-
> forsaken and unnecessary wars, and pissed off the entire world. You are
> George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Don Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft,
> Condoleezza Rice, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, Jay Bybee, Richard Perle,
> Scooter Libby, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas,
> L. Paul Bremer, George Tenet, and Porter Goss.
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for letting folks in New Orleans die while you
> sat on your asses and ate some cake. I was embarrassed to call myself an
> American after that, you bastards. How dare you not pay attention to human
> suffering under your watch? How dare you make a mockery of our government
> and our country? How dare you show your faces in public after you left NOLA
> hanging for 5 fucking days?!
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for wrecking the world's economy and then
> blaming it on Barack Obama. We probably would have had some cash-on-hand if
> you hadn't occupied two sovereign nations, you stupid, vindictive asshats.
>
> Fuck you.
>
> You can go fuck yourselves for making the United States of America, and our
> concept of democracy, a cruel joke. You want to hurt people who are not
> like you, who are "the other", who scare you, who give you someone to blame
> for our Huge Pile of Failâ„¢ that is the current state of the nation. Stop
> blaming us. We didn't pull any of this shit! We didn't run the country into
> the ever-loving ground for 8 solid years! We didn't say we were Christians
> on the one hand, and then hate with all our might on the other! We're not
> the reason you lost your job! We're not the reason for your daddy issues!
> We're not the reason for you not getting laid!
>
> SO FUCK YOU!
>
> If you're looking for someone to blame, check-out a goddamned mirror, you
> fucking fucks!
>
> --
> Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of
> the average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr

Bill Noble

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"Steve Lusardi" <steve...@lusardi.de> wrote in message
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> Free Heath Care is NOT free, nor is it efficient use of other people's
> money. You obviously do not care about that, because you are not a member
> of the "other".
> I am and I for one, resent having to pay for your health care. I don't
> sleep with you. You don't fix my car or cut my grass. I don't even know
> you Why should I or any other member of the "other" pay for your health
> care? My obligation to you is to do my utmost to support a health care
> policy that allows you, at a fair affordable price, to buy your own health
> care.
>
> What we see today in our government is what happens when within the voting
> public, the receivers outnumber the contributors. National failure will be
> the inevitable result, because the contributors are the people that make
> things happen and they will have no choice but to vote with their feet.
> Steve
>
> "Jessica Wabbit" <ja...@rock.com> wrote in message
> news:8cfed4a4-4c87-4090...@h21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...


cross posting removed

please advise what mechanism you would recommend for emergency rooms - today
they are required BY LAW to take all who present, regardless of ability to
pay. This means that you and I pay for the poor who cannot pay only when we
are sick or injured. Would you prefer that emergency rooms reject those who
cannot present proof of ability to pay (for example, if you are brought in
unconscious and don't have your insurance card with you, they put you
outside to live or die as you might), or do you have some other suggestion?

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 24, 2010, 8:58:58 PM4/24/10
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On Apr 24, 8:00 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 04:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
>
>
>
> <ja...@rock.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 24, 4:51 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
>
> >> <ja...@rock.com> wrote:
> >> >On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>  you have also foolishly traded your
> >> >> freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
> >> >> good.
>
> >> >Gumby, you are free to refuse free health care ...
>
> >> Why should I?
>
> >On principle; which you have none anyway.
>
> As long as the Leftwing have given everyone free medical..Why not take
> it?
>
> In fact..a year ago, I did exactly that.
>
> Now Ive a 3 way bypass scar, am recovering slowly from a stroke 6 weeks
> to the day later..and they have stopped sending me that pesky $275,000
> bill.
>
> Thanks for paying it for me Jessie..and for keeping me alive for a very
> long time in the future, so I can spank your leftwing ass.


No such luck Gumballs, I am in Canada where out banks don't need
gunmint money and we can make public health care work.

Gunner Asch

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So I wonder where that person will be moving to?

I hear Cuba is nice this time of year.

Adios, pendjeho

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Apr 25, 2010, 12:49:43 AM4/25/10
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:58:58 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
<ja...@rock.com> wrote:

Canucker?

Say..how come so many Canuks are coming to the US for medical care?

Hummmm????

Shall not be infringed

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Apr 25, 2010, 5:31:02 AM4/25/10
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I didn't know where to start with the idiot, he is screwed up on so
many counts.

And the hate. Maybe the FBI will knock on his door to make sure he's
OK, or that he hasn't rented a Ryder truck.

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 25, 2010, 7:26:25 AM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 5:31 am, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-

No risk of that because Gumballs is as threatening as a cotton ball.
He is all talk, and any idea of actually doing anything requiring an
effort is against his "work' ethic ... the guy earns less than a kid
flipping hamburgers!


PrecisionmachinisT

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Apr 25, 2010, 1:57:28 PM4/25/10
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"Jessica Wabbit" <ja...@rock.com> wrote in message
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Too late for that..he's already drank wayyyy more than his rightful share of
"Kool-Aid" as it is.

--

Shall not be infringed

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Apr 25, 2010, 1:07:57 PM4/25/10
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I was referring to duckbutter.

Gunner Asch

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Apr 25, 2010, 5:28:21 PM4/25/10
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I make $75 an hour.

And you?

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner Asch

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Apr 25, 2010, 5:34:09 PM4/25/10
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And it was provided by Leftwingers. Rightful Share?

And that is what, coming from a Leftwinger? Be specific..use as much
white space as necessary.


And if you would be so kind, provide cites to the "rightful share" all
the illegal immigrants are getting as well.

<VBG>

Double dog dare you!

Laugh laugh laugh!


Gunner, California

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 25, 2010, 6:35:29 PM4/25/10
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You trying to charge $75 an hour explains why your income is below the
poverty line.


Shall not be infringed

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Apr 25, 2010, 7:03:56 PM4/25/10
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Perhaps her pay schedule is measured in half-hours.

John R. Carroll

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Apr 25, 2010, 7:46:02 PM4/25/10
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Given the quality of his work it's safe to say he's being paid to stay away,
not work.
Having him use your equipment as training material could be a lot more
expensive than $75.00 and hour.

--
John R. Carroll


Gunner Asch

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Apr 25, 2010, 10:01:44 PM4/25/10
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
<ja...@rock.com> wrote:

Your reading comprehension issues still are not yet resolved, are they?

I said I "make" $75 an hour (plus .50 a mile portal to portal, and $25
an hour travel, portal to portal) and you thought I said "trying"

Sorry Jessy...but have you considered going back to the 7th grade you
obviously dropped out of, to pursue the career of a prostitute?

Now that you are no longer...ahum..."prime"..perhaps its time that you
gave up sucking strange mens dicks and return to getting your highschool
diploma?

Now I understand that you probably didnt save your earnings, paying your
pimp 75% of them, and your drug dealer the rest..but you can go back to
school for free. And then learn a trade you can work for the rest of
your life. Perhaps harness making...where you can manufacture S&M
treats for your ex clients and friends? I understand there is a pretty
good market for that sort of thing.

Just a suggestion..shrug.

PrecisionmachinisT

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"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
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I've been nearly 40 years in this racket and GUNNER is the ONLY person I've
ever even heard of that has "broken" an er32 collet.

http://tinyurl.com/27frkj6


--


John R. Carroll

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:37:10 PM4/25/10
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Probably went through some poor guys windshield.

--
John R. Carroll


Gunner Asch

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Apr 26, 2010, 12:00:42 AM4/26/10
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Yes and?

And yes..I used too little machine to weld that spare tire carrier into
place, 6 yrs ago. And I knew at the time it was not big
enough..but..shrug..was in a hurry.

And admitted it.

Now tell me you have never broken an insert, cutter, tool holder or left
an indicator, edge finder etc etc in place only to have it smashed?
Never fucked up a part?

I dont weld for a living. You cut metal for a living.

And if you claim to have never fucked up..you are one lying son of a
bitch.

I did, and learned my lesson from it. The one I welded on properly the
next day..has been in place for 6 yrs..and about 300,000 miles.

Since then, Ive learned to heliarc, stick weld pipelines, mig weld all
manner of things from big to small. Big as in 30' tall hoisting
assemblies capable of pulling 20,000 lbs off the deck. No failures as of
yet, and my pipeline welds passed inspection. In fact..Im a certified
pipeline welder among other types of welding.

Indeed, I fucked up, but learned from it.

You fucked up and hopefully learned from it.

Now as for your "wrath"..snicker..you are a disciple of the Obamassiah,
based on various responses lately. Which means you are mentally ill.

Which means you didnt learn all that much, now did you?

And that pretty much says it all, doesnt it?


Gunner


Hawke

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Apr 26, 2010, 1:09:14 AM4/26/10
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>>>>>> Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of
>>>>>> the average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr
>>>
>>>> So I wonder where that person will be moving to?
>>>
>>>> I hear Cuba is nice this time of year.
>>>
>>>> Adios, pendjeho
>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> I didn't know where to start with the idiot, he is screwed up on so
>>> many counts.
>>>
>>> And the hate. Maybe the FBI will knock on his door to make sure he's
>>> OK, or that he hasn't rented a Ryder truck.
>>
>> No risk of that because Gumballs is as threatening as a cotton ball.
>> He is all talk, and any idea of actually doing anything requiring an
>> effort is against his "work' ethic ... the guy earns less than a kid
>> flipping hamburgers!
>>
>
> I make $75 an hour.
>
> And you?
>
> Laugh laugh laugh
>
> Gunner


Whaa, Ha, Ha, Ha, but he only works two hours a week! What a role model!

Hawke

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 26, 2010, 2:00:29 AM4/26/10
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:09:14 -0700, Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net>
wrote:

>> I make $75 an hour.

How many hours did Gummer work last year at $75/?

--
Regards, Curly
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Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 26, 2010, 6:13:39 AM4/26/10
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Poor Gumbys, going off on one of his typical degenerate fantasies
about prostitutes. At least Gumby writes about what he knows best.


Gunner Asch

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Apr 26, 2010, 8:55:14 AM4/26/10
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:13:39 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
<ja...@rock.com> wrote:

What..you got a very good tip from me the last time I hired you to suck
my dick and then you suggested you would like to get fucked in the ass,
while I had you tied to the Wall.

You didnt think it was a good enough tip? Frankly...you werent all
that good and your body was....ah..going to ah...seed shall we say?

Hence my concern about your future career(s).

Now I know being a hooker in Canada is mostly legal..maam..you are
likely to starve to death if you keep up hooking.

Shrug

I was just trying to be helpful.

Shrug again.

Jessica Wabbit

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Apr 26, 2010, 11:28:47 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 26, 8:55 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >Poor Gumbys, going off on one of his typical degenerate fantasies
> >about prostitutes. At least Gumby writes about what he knows best.
>
> What..you got a very good tip from me the last time I hired you to suck
> my dick and then you suggested you would like to get fucked in the ass,
> while I had you tied to the Wall.
>
> You didnt think it was a good enough tip?    Frankly...you werent all
> that good and your body was....ah..going to ah...seed shall we say?
>
> Hence my concern about your future career(s).

Poor Gumby can't help exposing the psycho-sexual fantasies that have
made him the total loser that he is.


wmbjk...@citlink.net

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:29 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:09:14 -0700, Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net>
>wrote:
>
>>> I make $75 an hour.
>
>How many hours did Gummer work last year at $75/?

How can he work at all considering how much time he spends on Usenet?
Nearly 3500 posts so far this month.
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Orot9hQAAAAVu-i7YM79BqNIPO5iBPiLOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
At least one of which claimed that he was busy working in the shop! In
most of the rest that I've seen he's blaming Mexicans for anything and
everything. Nice soft gig for him considering that his targets can't
respond on account of them actually working instead of being the $75
an hour CEO of Whopper Productions. Too funny. I'm thinking that the
reality is that gummer's main income these days is his wife/ex/wife's
disability checks. What a loser.

Wayne

Gunner Asch

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Apr 26, 2010, 1:47:51 PM4/26/10
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Odd that Jessi is in utter denial that her career is on the rocks,
particularly at her age and...er..weight range. But then..long time
drug addicts and boozers tend to have a far better self image of
her...er..themselves than is actually true.

But hey..if the lady wants to believe that she is young, and good
looking..Im sure she can find the odd boozer at the bar to pay for her
booze and a hit or two, as long as she can still get down on her knees.

Shug. Though its pathetic that anyone that far down the road doesnt
understand that she really...really...really needs to make a career
change.

So be it.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 27, 2010, 12:35:44 AM4/27/10
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Gummer has cash to hire prostitutes? Who'd he mug? Certainly he hasn't
earned enough cash to pay expenses or the public debt he's run up let
alone hookers...

Another distortion of reality by our resident wack job...

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 27, 2010, 12:37:23 AM4/27/10
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Yow! 3,500 posts in 25 days!!! That's 140 / day. No way Gummer has
gainful employment with that much time on line. So much for his lie
about being employed...

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 27, 2010, 12:42:16 AM4/27/10
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:57:28 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<precision...@notmail.com> wrote:

> "Jessica Wabbit" <ja...@rock.com> wrote in message

> news:8cfed4a4-4c87-4090-ba0a-
ca6f06...@h21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...


> On Apr 23, 1:08 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > you have also foolishly traded your
>> > freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel
>> > good.
>
>
>> Gumby, you are free to refuse free health care ...
>
> Too late for that..he's already drank wayyyy more than his rightful
> share of "Kool-Aid" as it is.

Gummer is alreay in hell, Taft. Public assistance will insure that he
lives a long, tortured life.

wmbjk...@citlink.net

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Apr 27, 2010, 11:03:20 AM4/27/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:37:23 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:31:47 -0700, wmbjk...@citlink.net wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:29 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:09:14 -0700, Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I make $75 an hour.
>>>
>>>How many hours did Gummer work last year at $75/?
>>
>> How can he work at all considering how much time he spends on Usenet?
>> Nearly 3500 posts so far this month.
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Orot9hQAAAAVu-
>i7YM79BqNIPO5iBPiLOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
>> At least one of which claimed that he was busy working in the shop! In
>> most of the rest that I've seen he's blaming Mexicans for anything and
>> everything. Nice soft gig for him considering that his targets can't
>> respond on account of them actually working instead of being the $75 an
>> hour CEO of Whopper Productions. Too funny. I'm thinking that the
>> reality is that gummer's main income these days is his wife/ex/wife's
>> disability checks. What a loser.
>>
>> Wayne
>
>Yow! 3,500 posts in 25 days!!! That's 140 / day. No way Gummer has
>gainful employment with that much time on line. So much for his lie
>about being employed...

He said that he's posting from his laptop while waiting for paint to
dry. Bwahaha!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/805178279631dea9?dmode=source

You can see that paint job here.
http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/ForSale#5464599317463813970
Note the telltale "I don't need no steenking masking tape" on the
power switch, and the overall ambiance. Proof positive that Al Babin
is alive and living in Taft.

Wayne

PrecisionmachinisT

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Apr 27, 2010, 12:18:12 PM4/27/10
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<wmbjk...@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:f0vdt55ht9hab8gso...@4ax.com...

It appears perhaps Taft has no zoning regulations to prohibit the operation
of a salvage yard within a residential area.


wmbjk...@citlink.net

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Apr 27, 2010, 11:28:30 AM4/27/10
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That's the least of it. Gummer's operating a scrap yard/kennel,
refusing to pay property taxes, and running up humongous social
services bills that he has no intention of paying a nickel towards.
And yet Taft can't get find a way to get rid of him. Oh well, can't
really think of anywhere more suitable for him unless we count
third-world locations.

Wayne

Strabo

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Apr 27, 2010, 1:52:08 PM4/27/10
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wmbjk...@citlink.net wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:18:12 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
> <precision...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
<snipped>

>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/805178279631dea9?dmode=sourc
>> e
>>> You can see that paint job here.
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/ForSale#5464599317463813970
>>> Note the telltale "I don't need no steenking masking tape" on the
>>> power switch, and the overall ambiance. Proof positive that Al Babin
>>> is alive and living in Taft.
>>>
>> It appears perhaps Taft has no zoning regulations to prohibit the operation
>> of a salvage yard within a residential area.
>
> That's the least of it. Gummer's operating a scrap yard/kennel,
> refusing to pay property taxes, and running up humongous social
> services bills that he has no intention of paying a nickel towards.
> And yet Taft can't get find a way to get rid of him. Oh well, can't
> really think of anywhere more suitable for him unless we count
> third-world locations.
>
> Wayne
>

I see Gunner's groupies are again competing for his attention.

Gunner Asch

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Apr 27, 2010, 2:11:59 PM4/27/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:18:12 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<precision...@notmail.com> wrote:

It also makes some difference that Im only asking $350 for it. <G>

Not $3500.

On the other hand...if you notice..well..you couldnt of course..that the
switch turns black when its in the Off postion.

So one of you boys going to buy it? Or..do either of you buffoons
actually know how to weld?

Snicker

>>
>
>It appears perhaps Taft has no zoning regulations to prohibit the operation
>of a salvage yard within a residential area.
>

Not to mention I live 2 blocks outside the city limit...in the County

<G>

I did have to put up a 6' fence around the back of my main property.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Yard#

Now you boys enjoy living in a cramped urban apartment
complex...shrug...thats up to you. I dont, never did. And the place
has been paid for for over 8 yrs. You guys..shrug....no wonder you
morons. Thats what happens when you stuff too many rats in a small
cage.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Apr 27, 2010, 2:54:42 PM4/27/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:52:08 -0400, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
wrote:


<VBG> And like all groopies..they will drop to their knees and suck my
dick the moment I ask.

Wayne now..he is pretty good at it. Hes had years of practice sucking
mens dicks.

But..shrug... since I dont swing that way..it does result in them
getting all bitchy and tempesstuous...but hey..its nice to have a fan
club.

Its almost like having slaves, you know what I mean?

<VBG>

wmbjk...@citlink.net

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Apr 27, 2010, 3:53:44 PM4/27/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:11:59 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You're also not asking $10thousand or 10million, both of which are
equally plausible.

>On the other hand...if you notice..well..you couldnt of course..that the
>switch turns black when its in the Off postion.

Ah, so it's not really laziness, like painting over the labels and the
wheels and everything in overspray range. It's all part of the babin
rebuild! Too funny.


>
>So one of you boys going to buy it?

1. When I need such stuff, I prefer to buy it before some nitwit has
messed with it.
2. I already have much nicer equipment.
3. If you had anything I needed, I wouldn't encourage your
deadbeatitis by sending you money. Anybody who does want anything you
have, should send the money directly to your creditors.

> Or..do either of you buffoons
>actually know how to weld?

You mean, know how to weld like you, so that the welded items fall off
in traffic? No.

Wayne


Hawke

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Apr 27, 2010, 4:21:38 PM4/27/10
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On 4/26/2010 9:35 PM, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:28:47 -0700, Jessica Wabbit<ja...@rock.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 26, 8:55 am, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Poor Gumbys, going off on one of his typical degenerate fantasies
>>>> about prostitutes. At least Gumby writes about what he knows best.
>>>
>>> What..you got a very good tip from me the last time I hired you to suck
>>> my dick and then you suggested you would like to get fucked in the ass,
>>> while I had you tied to the Wall.
>>>
>>> You didnt think it was a good enough tip? Frankly...you werent all
>>> that good and your body was....ah..going to ah...seed shall we say?
>>>
>>> Hence my concern about your future career(s).
>>
>> Poor Gumby can't help exposing the psycho-sexual fantasies that have
>> made him the total loser that he is.
>
> Gummer has cash to hire prostitutes? Who'd he mug? Certainly he hasn't
> earned enough cash to pay expenses or the public debt he's run up let
> alone hookers...
>
> Another distortion of reality by our resident wack job...
>


What is hilarious is to hear him disparaging someone else, anyone else.
I mean, it's virtually impossible to be any further down than Gummer is,
yet he's got the nerve to criticize others. What a putz. I guess he
thinks if he puts others down we won't remember what a total loser he
is. No such luck for him. I know nothing about Jessica Wabbit but I
would bet dollars to doughnuts that she is miles ahead of Gummer. Shit,
who isn't?

Hawke

Hawke

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Apr 27, 2010, 4:26:34 PM4/27/10
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Just laughing it up at the expense of the buffoon of the newsgroup, the
one and only white version of Sanford and Son based in Taft, Ca. And
what, no defense from you? You backstabber!

Hawke

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pyotr filipivich

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Apr 28, 2010, 1:55:35 AM4/28/10
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I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
<gunne...@gmail.com> reported Elvis on Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:54:42
-0700 in misc.survivalism:

>On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:52:08 -0400, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
>wrote:
>>wmbjk...@citlink.net wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:18:12 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT" wrote:
>><snipped>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/805178279631dea9?dmode=source

>>>>> You can see that paint job here.
>>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/ForSale#5464599317463813970
>>>>> Note the telltale "I don't need no steenking masking tape" on the
>>>>> power switch, and the overall ambiance. Proof positive that Al Babin
>>>>> is alive and living in Taft.
>>>>>
>>>> It appears perhaps Taft has no zoning regulations to prohibit the operation
>>>> of a salvage yard within a residential area.
>>>
>>> That's the least of it. Gummer's operating a scrap yard/kennel,
>>> refusing to pay property taxes, and running up humongous social
>>> services bills that he has no intention of paying a nickel towards.
>>> And yet Taft can't get find a way to get rid of him. Oh well, can't
>>> really think of anywhere more suitable for him unless we count
>>> third-world locations.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>
>>I see Gunner's groupies are again competing for his attention.
>
>
><VBG> And like all groopies..they will drop to their knees and suck my
>dick the moment I ask.
>
>Wayne now..he is pretty good at it. Hes had years of practice sucking
>mens dicks.
>
>But..shrug... since I dont swing that way..it does result in them
>getting all bitchy and tempesstuous...but hey..its nice to have a fan
>club.
>
>Its almost like having slaves, you know what I mean?

Probably better. You don't have to feed this lot. Slaves you do
have to take care of - they've some value.

tschus
pyotr
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pyotr filipivich
Next Months Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 28, 2010, 8:24:14 AM4/28/10
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Just contradicted the claim of $75/hour income.

<snip>

Curly Surmudgeon

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Apr 28, 2010, 8:27:28 AM4/28/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:21:38 -0700, Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net>
wrote:

Bob Milby?

> Hawke

wmbjk...@citlink.net

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Apr 28, 2010, 9:55:54 AM4/28/10
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:21:38 -0700, Hawke
<davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:

That's a tough one. Maybe some folks with serious disabilities. His
wife. A skinny kid in jail. A homeless guy's dog. Anybody desperate
enough to hire him.

Easier is who *is* better off. Every kid with an allowance or a paper
route. Anybody earning minimum wage but not in debt. The guys in
Tremors when the septic-pumper hose broke.

Wayne

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