So cool! Wish they had "the band." I'm sure the new clamp is 28% better, but holy cow was that hidden bolt band slick. Always seemed like the closest thing I owned to constructeur. I wonder if the deuce will have the same 3 point lever orientation option.
Who cares, though, so happy they're back!
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So cool! Wish they had "the band." I'm sure the new clamp is 28% better, but holy cow was that hidden bolt band slick. Always seemed like the closest thing I owned to constructeur. I wonder if the deuce will have the same 3 point lever orientation option.
Who cares, though, so happy they're back!
Best,
joe
pdx or.
On Oct 14, 2016 11:08 AM, "Bill Lindsay" <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be going away. So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now. The Silver 2 looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter. Most importantly (to me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory. When the need arises, get them from your stock. If Riv gets a lot of early adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to make the next part that you can't get anywhere else. Grant tells you on the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.--Bill habitual-early-adopter LindsayEl Cerrito, CA
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Have you solved the wimpy plastic washer issue? Maybe a thick hard rubber? I remember there were two types of action figures growing up: brittle Gi joes who's thumbs broke off and these heartier more maliable super heroes with a similar but durable Kung fu grip. I don't know why silvers 1s trigger this memory but that's where my mind goes. In any case, I learned my lesson and stocked up as I have silver 1s on noodles and cycle thru them and chalk it up to regular maintenance.
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So can the S2s be used as a replacement for the stock shifters that came on the Clems? My wife has a Clementine that she just LOVES, but the stock shifters have always given lots of "ghost" shifts, as discussed on this list some time back. I would sure like to replace the shifters with something that would be mounted in the same place for easy shifting, but that would not have the problems.Reid
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Looking forward to checking these out!
They'll be good replacements, yep. The ghost shifts--up in the mid and upper range, it may take two clicks to lock the gear in. It works...but it can be a challenge. I doubt I'll change my CLEMshifters, but they are a transitional species, maybe.
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So can the S2s be used as a replacement for the stock shifters that came on the Clems? My wife has a Clementine that she just LOVES, but the stock shifters have always given lots of "ghost" shifts, as discussed on this list some time back. I would sure like to replace the shifters with something that would be mounted in the same place for easy shifting, but that would not have the problems.Reid
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Stat crux dum volvitur orbis. (The cross stands motionless while the world revolves.) Carthusian motto
It is we who change; He remains the same. Eckhart
Kinei hos eromenon. (It moves [all things] as the beloved.) Aristotle
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For those who still want the traditional downtube shifter shape, Dia Compe makes them with the same ratcheting friction internals as Silver shifters. It's cosmetically a little different, but functionally it's the same shifter.
I'd guess this is a little bit why Riv is making something new instead of making the same shape if they need to invest in a new mold.
I'm looking forward to these!
David
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On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I agree that they will make only makeshift dt shifters -- too bad. Me, I like the shape of the old ones for bar end shifting too, but for that purpose, the new ones will work at least as well.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:45 PM, LBleriot <gary....@att.net> wrote:
Meh. I can't get excited about this version since it seems that given the new shape DT mounting is an afterthought. To my eye, these are thumbies and would look silly on a Ram, Rom, Homer or Roadeo DT.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be going away. So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now. The Silver 2 looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter. Most importantly (to me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory. When the need arises, get them from your stock. If Riv gets a lot of early adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to make the next part that you can't get anywhere else. Grant tells you on the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.Bill habitual-early-adopter LindsayEl Cerrito, CA
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I like the old down tube style ones and the new thimble ones. Both are nice.
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Silver THIMBLESSince 'tis the season for voting, the polls are open till Saturday at 10 o'clock California time.If now and then or from the start we call them Thimble Shifters---if we or I EVER do--Ryan gets a free pair.The SILVER part is alredy in the genes. That's the brand. Model would be THIMBLE, and maybe we'd use THIMBLE only for the thumb-operated style.so you can vote anonymously without hurting Ryan's feelings, email gr...@rivbike.com directly, and only if you like THIMBLE. No other suggestions, please, no explanations, I'm not going to open up the email unless you say THIMBLE OPEN, and then, sure, whatever. But I'm looking for a certain undisclosed number between 45 and 48. That's the threshhold.
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I like the old down tube style ones and the new thimble ones. Both are nice.
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Who is he talking to?
Who is he talking to?
I like the direction Grant's going & I don't think I am wrong in saying the the bike industry is swiftly moving away from downtube shifters and I am guessing they are not relevant at all on contemporary bikes. So, then I am guessing that the majority of people who like the old style are reaching the Twilight of their riding days, riding vintage equipment & likely not looking for new shifters anywaz!
If they are as Bill suggested, stock up now! But, honestly power ratchet shifters are easily had on ebay in a pinch.
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Don't carry this line of thought too far! Steel, hand-built wheels, wool clothing, friction shifting, leather shoes, fixed drivetrains, lugged frames, -- you can go on and on about technology that one could argue is in its twilight.There are good reasons for downtube shifters that remain relevant even in a world of electric button shifting, just as there are good reasons for lugs, leather, wool, and 32 spoke wheels. The bike industry is rapidly moving away from just about everything that Rivendell sells.Patrick Moore, for whom dt shifters are Hi Tek -- coming back from a brief climbing ride on the '99 67'/75" fixie, I youngsters on fixed gear bikes heading for the really steep climbs.
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I like the direction Grant's going & I don't think I am wrong in saying the the bike industry is swiftly moving away from downtube shifters and I am guessing they are not relevant at all on contemporary bikes. So, then I am guessing that the majority of people who like the old style are reaching the Twilight of their riding days, riding vintage equipment & likely not looking for new shifters anywaz!
If they are as Bill suggested, stock up now! But, honestly power ratchet shifters are easily had on ebay in a pinch.
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Anyway. I have two pair of the Silver barends and one dt. Interested in trying originals or seeing whatelse gets developed next. Though I can see myself maybe thinking about getting another backup set if I get more bike money maybe from selling new 700c Compass tires and new 700c LX/A23 wheelset here soon.
I hope they keep the D rings. So convenient for on the bike tightening!! No screwdriver necessary!!!
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Since RBW is into calling their bikes . " Country bikes". How about calling the shifter "_______'s toothpick"?
Use your favorite Southern USA sounding name or nickname in the blank. Earleigh, or Elmer, or Rosco, or Skeeter, etc.
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These shifters are great. The only downside I have experienced is that after two years the finish is starting to get a little pockmarked with corrosion. I feel like that's a little early for that to be happening.however I do ride on dry salted winter roads sometimes during the winter. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Lindsay....sorry Bill
The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be going away. So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now. The Silver 2 looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter. Most importantly (to me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory. When the need arises, get them from your stock. If Riv gets a lot of early adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to make the next part that you can't get anywhere else. Grant tells you on the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.Bill habitual-early-adopter LindsayEl Cerrito, CA
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