ISO: 54-55cm frame; lugged; canti brakes.

[Belopsky]

I just built up a Schwinn Passage that is a 21" (so about 53x53) but it's a bit small. Wondering if anyone has something 54-55 with canti brakes that I can swap all the parts onto?

[John Hawrylak]

Igor

The Passage came only in 19", 21', 23" and 25:" frames per the 1986 Schwinn catalog

http://waterfordbikes.com/SchwinnCat/flschwinn_1981_1990/1986Ltwt31.html

http://waterfordbikes.com/SchwinnCat/flschwinn_1981_1990/1986Ltwt17.html

The 23" would be 58.4cm seat tube.

Other than component differences, the Passage and the Voyaguer were identical frames, Tenax main tubes and Cr-Moly stays.  The forks were different.  Passage used a 1010 steel fork, Voyaguer a CrMoly steel fork

John Hawrylak

Woodstown NJ

On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 2:55:50 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:

[Belopsky]

Is that right? Dang - I didn't catch that earlier.. 23" would certainly be too big - I'm guessing the top tube is also 23"

From looking at the catalog, the Voyageur has a 'custom blend' Tenax whereas the Passage just says Tenax, but I'm sure I cannot tell the difference.

[john.h...@verizon.net]

Igor

Matt C has a 23"1987 Voyaguer and the TT is probably the same as a Passage.  The 21" Voyaguer has a 54.4cm TTL.    The 1982 catalog shows tables fro Standard and custom Paramount Touring models.  The TTL increase 1 to 1-1/2" for a frame size change of 2", fro 21 to 23".  So the TTL on a 23" may only be 25 to 38mm longer than a 21".  May be worthwhile to ask on the list for someone having a 23" Passage.

 Besides components, the only difference was the fork material, Cr-Moly (V) vs 1010 (P).  Probably not much change in the ride.  Catalog weight was 2 lbs more on the Passage, again not much.

John Hawrylak

Woodstown NJ 

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[Palmer]

My 23" Passage has a 22.5" c to c top tube.
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI

[Steve Palincsar]

In other words, 23" c to top

[Joe Bernard]

You can't measure a toptube center to top.

[Mark in Beacon]

Well you could. It would come out to about a half an inch or so on most bikes.