Kickstand tire rub

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Bob B

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Feb 11, 2019, 9:05:32 PM2/11/19
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I’ve wanted to use a kickstand for a while on my hunq; I currently run 55mm big bens and 2.10 smart sams. After I mounted the standard Plescher model, I immediately had to remove it because of tire rub. Bummer.

Does anyone know if the bulkier kickstand Riv recently started offering is designed to clear wider tires? Or, is there another brand, or some other creative solution to this?

Thanks
Bob B
Brooklyn, NY

Coal Bee Rye Anne

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Feb 11, 2019, 10:28:54 PM2/11/19
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I’m not certain about the newer bulkier pletscher “touring” model they now stock, but the no name kickstand they stocked on my, and likely most other Clem completes definitely clears a bigger tire than a pletscher I have. It’s silver with a black adjustable foot. Might be worth calling Riv to see if they have any remaining or see if the new heavier duty pletscher fits wider tires than the older other model?

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

Drw

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Feb 11, 2019, 10:32:07 PM2/11/19
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It’s not/it won’t. It sits about where the regular pletscher one sits. I had the same thought and bought one on a whim. It’s a good and more solid kickstand, but it won’t give you more clearance. It’s a shame, because the chainstays have clearance for days.

Collin A

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Feb 11, 2019, 10:45:22 PM2/11/19
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The one that came standard on the Clem clears my 2.4 inch tires. Not sure what the brand is, but if you give Riv a call they may know where to get one.

Drw

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Feb 12, 2019, 1:47:29 AM2/12/19
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I wonder how much this has to do with placement of the Kickstand plate. It seems like if it was rotated slightly, it would be in line with the chainstay, but maybe that would make the kickstand less stable?

WETH

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Feb 12, 2019, 5:59:20 AM2/12/19
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Hi Bob,
I had a similar issue with my 56cm Hunq and 650bx2.4 tires. I called Riv and spoke to Roman. He recommended a kickstand they used on Clems, if I remember correctly. After searching for a few minutes he found one for me.
A pictures worth a 1,000 words: https://flic.kr/p/2a71pS1
So, I’d call Riv if you haven’t.
Best wishes,
Erl

lconley

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Feb 12, 2019, 9:08:29 AM2/12/19
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A. You can use a file:
   1. oval the hole in the kickstand plate to move the kickstand out, away from the tire, or, if you don't want to file on the frame.
   2. file on the sides of the kickstand mount to rotate the kickstand relative to the frame.
B. Get a kickstand that mounts to the chainstay and seatstay near the rear hub. Greenfield makes them, and maybe Pletscher also. I mounted one of this style on a fatbike.

Laing
Cocoa FL

Hetchins52

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Feb 12, 2019, 8:21:05 PM2/12/19
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I was at RBWHQ about 2 weeks ago and Roman showed me something that seems to address this problem. On the MIT Atlantis (IIRC), the kickstand mounting bolt hole in the frame's chain stay plate has been placed off center, to the NDS so that the kickstand ends up maybe 5 to 10 mm farther to the left of centerline. 

That implies that Laing's #A-1 filing solution is something to try to address the rubbing issue. You'd want to find a toothed washer for the top of the plate so that the kickstand can't be forced to slide back toward the center.

#A-2 probably won't be as good: kickstands always want to rotate, though I guess it would be in the direction it can't easily turn any farther.

David Lipsky 
Berkeley


On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:08:29 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
A. You can use a file:
   1. oval the hole in the kickstand plate to move the kickstand out, away from the tire, ....

Patrick Moore

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Feb 12, 2019, 8:30:17 PM2/12/19
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If you torque the mounting bolt so that the plates dig themselves little hollows in the stays, your stand won't rotate. Just kidding (though I've done that), but so far, the Greenfield bb-area stand on my Dahon has stayed put, even without torquing it into the meta, and even with frequent and irritated kickings -- when the drivetrain is fixed, the left crank always ends up blocking the stand. I liberally wrap the stays in bar tape, the torque down enthusiastically.

Slight tangent: does anyone know if a Greenfield left-rear-dropout stand will interfere with that little magnetic mushroom thing that holds the for'ard part of the frame to the after part when you fold it? Or can such a stand be modified without too much trouble to avoid this?

I use the Hon Solo for grocery shopping, which means that I kick the stand down and and then up at least half a dozen times during a typical singe trip to the store; a rear dropout stand could be put down and left there even as you wheel your (fixed gear) bike through the aisles.

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Dave Redmon

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Feb 13, 2019, 12:09:56 AM2/13/19
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My wife has a 52cm Clem L with Riv's stock silver kickstand, curved with a black plastic bottom. How is its length adjustable?

Dave in Kansas

David Bivins

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Feb 13, 2019, 7:02:53 AM2/13/19
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On my Clem H's kickstand, you could adjust that plastic bottom up and
down. For me, the plastic part fell off w/in weeks, so I got a
Pletscher to replace the whole thing.

Coal Bee Rye Anne

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Feb 13, 2019, 10:02:03 AM2/13/19
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Hi Dave,
Somewhere along the back side of the black foot there’s a lock/flap with a groove; you just need to unsnap and then slide up or down along the notches in the alloy part to your desired length then fold/snap the locking part back in place.

Dave Redmon

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Feb 13, 2019, 12:22:58 PM2/13/19
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Thanks for that info!

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 9:02 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne <lionsrug...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dave,
Somewhere along the back side of the black foot there’s a lock/flap with a groove; you just need to unsnap and then slide up or down along the notches in the alloy part to your desired length then fold/snap the locking part back in place.

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J Imler

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Feb 15, 2019, 7:08:34 PM2/15/19
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I put a piece of inner tube up in the plate area before mounting... zero play.
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Ed Fausto

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Feb 15, 2019, 8:22:32 PM2/15/19
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Same here.
It will require less torque for zero play.

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