ROADINI tease on the BLUG

[Bill Lindsay]

His first name is Leo.  He apparently has paws.  Your Roadini that you buy next summer may have a fake panel.  So far, nothing not to like

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Irving]

Who you callin' "semi-destitute"!?!?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I sure don't need another bike but this has my interest. Anxious to see what they come up with.

[Rod Holland]

Wonder what the max tire width will be. Jolly if they were compatible with Snoqualmie Passes...Won't hold my breath for that, of course.

rod

[Tim Gavin]

My prediction for the Leo Roadini is a bike with similar dimensions to the Roadeo, but using less-expensive TIG construction and Silver tubing.  

Perhaps it will be a bit more relaxed, resulting in geometry between a Roadeo and a Sam H.

The Roadeo already clears a 700 x 38 tire under medium-reach brakes (47-57 mm), which is pretty generous for a road-oriented bike (in my opinion).  Mine rides great on 700 x 32 Compass Stampede Pass tires, with room for fenders (if I want them).

Sounds like a great bike: a pavement-oriented road/sport-touring bike at a Clem pricepoint (assuming).  A Surly Pacer with Riv design, more or less.  

Something like that would be a great bike for many of the riders I know currently on aluminum major-manufacturer road bikes.  If a fraction of those folks buy a Leo Roadini, it should be a success for Rivendell.

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[ted]

What Tim suggests seems reasonable though it might be tiwan lugged and to the rodeo as the Sam is to the Hilson. If it is tiged then it sounds a lot like a black mountain cycles road frame.

[CMR]

I'm curious how it will differ from the San Marcos, already a great road bike at a lower price point.

[Tim Gavin]

CMR- that's a good point, and Ted suggests the same (Taiwan, lugged). 

I understand that the issue with the San Marcos was basically the same problem with the Bleriot: non-Riv dealers carry the bike, and can offer their own discount pricing (undercutting Riv).

Riv could certainly do another Taiwan-sourced lugged frame for the Leo Roadini (like the Romulus). That would be my preference, but I'm out of the market since I have a Roadeo.

Personally, I predict something more Clem-ish in construction, which would be similar to a Black Mountain road frame (but with Riv design).

-Tim

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On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, CMR <cmiller...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm curious how it will differ from the San Marcos, already a great road bike at a lower price point.

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[William R.]

Yes! I will follow the development of the Roadini closely. I have most of the parts for a road bike. Generous clearances will always be welcome. Down tube shifter bosses? Ok! Will they have a frame only option? Probably not at first, but eventually, I could be in.

Bill in Westchester, NY

[Ryan Ray]

Interested as long as the bigger sizes have a single top tube!

[John Hawrylak]

If Leo Roadini is good, Dobie Gillis (Rodin Thinker statue) would be better.

John Hawrylak

Woodstown NJ

[Belopsky]

Will be paying some attention, but all depends..Riv frames aren't exactly cheap, and if it is a TIG'd Taiwanese frame I'd be looking at a Gunnar instead

[Belopsky]

If it's a road bike at Clem price point, I may be interested.

[Grant @ Rivendell]

The Rodin theme was too obvious to adopt, but it was always in the background. It'll likely be a frame only, but we're thinking about whole bike, and that's not ruled out. Maybe some of each. It may follow CLEM and have a seat lug. Sam is already a good road bike, but the clearances big you to fill them up with a huge "road?" tire, and Rodini won't allow that. Up to 35mm, probably.
Our bike certainly are not inexpensive, but they cannot possibly be any less expensive without do-featuring/de-cooling them or replacing the staff with wealthy philanthropists or unemployables!
I think Will and Roman picked the colors. Same sizes as Sam.

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:02:36 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[Belopsky]

Same as in, 51,55,58,62? Will be interesting to see this - I imagine we're months out from more info

[Ryan Ray]

Road 700x44 would be reeeaaalllly nice :)

- Ryan

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[Belopsky]

Grant just said ~35mm

[Grant Petersen]

Road 700x44 is Sam.
Roadini is a cheap Rodeo, for the most part. It'll fit med-reach (around 54-55mm) brakes.

(I use "cheap" in a celebratory, not degrading way!)

Sidepulls (or Paul bolt-on)

B/O for Mark's Rack, but single rear eyelet below, so as not to encourage the fashionable monster front loads.

Big picture addition is: Let's say you've got your everyday commuter-trail-tourish bike with fenders, racks, kickstand, basket, voodoo dolls and stuffed animals, and you love the bike, and you end up doing this to all of your bikes (this is autobiographical, but it works that way for a lot of people here, and probably out there, too). Well, at some point, the bike should force you to rein it all in---not as much as a track bike or a Cervelo-type bike, but a little, and the Roadini will. Two eyelets in the rear, one in front, midfork, mid seat stay. 

Completes will be doubles, and we're hoping they'll all be cheap enough to allow people who even KIND of want one to get one.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Road 700x44 would be reeeaaalllly nice :)

- Ryan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:54 AM Belopsky <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same as in, 51,55,58,62? Will be interesting to see this - I imagine we're months out from more info

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 12:51:42 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:

The Rodin theme was too obvious to adopt, but it was always in the background. It'll likely be a frame only, but we're thinking about whole bike, and that's not ruled out. Maybe some of each. It may follow CLEM and have a seat lug. Sam is already a good road bike, but the clearances big you to fill them up with a huge "road?" tire, and Rodini won't allow that. Up to 35mm, probably.
Our bike certainly are not inexpensive, but they cannot possibly be any less expensive without do-featuring/de-cooling them or replacing the staff with wealthy philanthropists or unemployables!
I think Will and Roman picked the colors. Same sizes as Sam.

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:02:36 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

His first name is Leo.  He apparently has paws.  Your Roadini that you buy next summer may have a fake panel.  So far, nothing not to like

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

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[Belopsky]

This is exciting, Grant. I imagine we'll get more info about it in the next couple of months, with pre-orders later in the winter/early spring for a delivery in June or so? THAT would be lovely for those of us in the colder parts of the country

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:

Road 700x44 is Sam.
Roadini is a cheap Rodeo, for the most part. It'll fit med-reach (around 54-55mm) brakes.

(I use "cheap" in a celebratory, not degrading way!)

Sidepulls (or Paul bolt-on)

B/O for Mark's Rack, but single rear eyelet below, so as not to encourage the fashionable monster front loads.

Big picture addition is: Let's say you've got your everyday commuter-trail-tourish bike with fenders, racks, kickstand, basket, voodoo dolls and stuffed animals, and you love the bike, and you end up doing this to all of your bikes (this is autobiographical, but it works that way for a lot of people here, and probably out there, too). Well, at some point, the bike should force you to rein it all in---not as much as a track bike or a Cervelo-type bike, but a little, and the Roadini will. Two eyelets in the rear, one in front, midfork, mid seat stay. 

Completes will be doubles, and we're hoping they'll all be cheap enough to allow people who even KIND of want one to get one.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Road 700x44 would be reeeaaalllly nice :)

- Ryan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:54 AM Belopsky <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same as in, 51,55,58,62? Will be interesting to see this - I imagine we're months out from more info

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 12:51:42 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:

The Rodin theme was too obvious to adopt, but it was always in the background. It'll likely be a frame only, but we're thinking about whole bike, and that's not ruled out. Maybe some of each. It may follow CLEM and have a seat lug. Sam is already a good road bike, but the clearances big you to fill them up with a huge "road?" tire, and Rodini won't allow that. Up to 35mm, probably.
Our bike certainly are not inexpensive, but they cannot possibly be any less expensive without do-featuring/de-cooling them or replacing the staff with wealthy philanthropists or unemployables!
I think Will and Roman picked the colors. Same sizes as Sam.

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:02:36 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

His first name is Leo.  He apparently has paws.  Your Roadini that you buy next summer may have a fake panel.  So far, nothing not to like

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

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[Ryan Ray]

I always forget Sams go up to 44... Hmm...

- Ryan

[Surlyprof]

And even 45 Smart Sams if you wanna get dirty.

John

[Bob K.]

I had Schwalbe Marathons in 47 on my (canti) Sam for a while. I don't have a fancy digital caliper to tell you actual width, though I'd guess they measure quite a bit under 47.

Bob

[drew]

i had 50's that measured 48. they weren't even a tight fit. 

[Alfred Womack]

Jack Browns with fenders would be great!

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:

Road 700x44 is Sam.
Roadini is a cheap Rodeo, for the most part. It'll fit med-reach (around 54-55mm) brakes.

(I use "cheap" in a celebratory, not degrading way!)

Sidepulls (or Paul bolt-on)

B/O for Mark's Rack, but single rear eyelet below, so as not to encourage the fashionable monster front loads.

Big picture addition is: Let's say you've got your everyday commuter-trail-tourish bike with fenders, racks, kickstand, basket, voodoo dolls and stuffed animals, and you love the bike, and you end up doing this to all of your bikes (this is autobiographical, but it works that way for a lot of people here, and probably out there, too). Well, at some point, the bike should force you to rein it all in---not as much as a track bike or a Cervelo-type bike, but a little, and the Roadini will. Two eyelets in the rear, one in front, midfork, mid seat stay. 

Completes will be doubles, and we're hoping they'll all be cheap enough to allow people who even KIND of want one to get one.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Road 700x44 would be reeeaaalllly nice :)

- Ryan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:54 AM Belopsky <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same as in, 51,55,58,62? Will be interesting to see this - I imagine we're months out from more info

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 12:51:42 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:

The Rodin theme was too obvious to adopt, but it was always in the background. It'll likely be a frame only, but we're thinking about whole bike, and that's not ruled out. Maybe some of each. It may follow CLEM and have a seat lug. Sam is already a good road bike, but the clearances big you to fill them up with a huge "road?" tire, and Rodini won't allow that. Up to 35mm, probably.
Our bike certainly are not inexpensive, but they cannot possibly be any less expensive without do-featuring/de-cooling them or replacing the staff with wealthy philanthropists or unemployables!
I think Will and Roman picked the colors. Same sizes as Sam.

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:02:36 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

His first name is Leo.  He apparently has paws.  Your Roadini that you buy next summer may have a fake panel.  So far, nothing not to like

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

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[Patrick Moore]

Huh! This project sounds as if it might work well as a KOF entry into the Eroica world ... with very decadent multispeed freewheel derailleur drivetrains, to boot.

Patrick "Not another project!" Moore, dreaming of strada blancas in ABQ, NM

[Lungimsam]

but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the top tube?

[Clayton.sf]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 10:28:19 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
> but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the top tube?

In that case it would be a flying gate frame.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

[Patrick Moore]

Eeeek!

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the top tube?

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[Chris Birkenmaier]

I am more excited than I really should be about seeing this new model.  Don't need another bike.  Really, really don't need another bike!

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 10:26:12 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

Eeeek!

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the top tube?

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