WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Hey Y'all,

Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, Bombadil, etc.)

Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.

- Drew

[Bill Lindsay]

"Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet."

It's a great move to post here.  Good luck with the search.  Some of the models you mention are "expanded" with more of a TT slope vs others like the Saluki which is flatter in TT slope, so the numbers associated with the sizes are kind of different.  Maybe to normalize it all, you should list your Saddle Height, and/or the size Atlantis you got rid of.  Like, I'm a 75.5cm Saddle Height and I'd use a 54 Hunqapillar and maybe a 58 or 60 Saluki.  Finally, I've had "shaking bikes loose" that weren't previously "for sale" by stating my budget.  Just a suggestion.  Many people think it's crazy to actually say what you are willing to spend.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Ryan]

what size are you looking for?

[Ryan]

oops never mind...sorry; its in your post header

[Drew Fitchette]

Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 

My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 

Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.

[Bill Lindsay]

Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  

BL

[Drew Fitchette]

My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 

I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from wherever about what's available!

[iamkeith]

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 

Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  I suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 87 pbh in my case.)  

Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd suggest making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over.  Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  

Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for one of those, even though i don't "need" one.

[Bill Lindsay]

"I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from wherever about what's available!"

I think you missed the tactical objective of my suggestion:  If somebody near you has a bike that may be a good candidate, they may let you test ride it, even though it's not for sale.  If somebody in Atlanta lets you ride their 60cm Platypus, then you might conclude: "hot DAMN!  That's exactly what I need" and your search is now laser focused and confident that it will succeed.  

Nobody is going to ship you a bike to test ride :)

BL

[Drew Fitchette]

Hehe, knew that comment was coming the minute I posted Bill!

Yeah, makes sense! Would love to test ride a few models In the greater Atlanta area if folks have stuff from 54cm and up.

The bikeflights/traveling still Applies in the case that someone has something interesting to sell.

- Drew

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[Drew Fitchette]

Super helpful Keith! 

Thanks!

[DavidP]

Bill suggested a Platy or other dropped top tube frame might be a better fit for your proportions. Depending on the handlebar you are looking to use and whether you are looking at the newer, expanded geometry frames, I agree.

At 5'11" and 87cm PBH my proportions are more normalized than yours, but I've found a 60cm Platypus to give reach allowing for a Bosco/Tosco without worrying about standover. I wouldn't be able to clear an Appaloosa or Atlantis with the same reach, meaning I'd want a longer stem than the 120mm I have on the Platy or bar with less rearward extension.

-Dave

[Drew Fitchette]

Still on the hunt here in the event anyone's still got a frame/bike they might want to thin out of their herd. 

[Drew Fitchette]

Figure I’ll throw one last shout on this thread before I resign myself to the next batch of Sam’s or Appa’s coming later this spring/summer. 

Interested in any Riv suitable for a 835-840 PBH!