Tires for Sam

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Broccoli Cog

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Apr 6, 2017, 8:15:33 PM4/6/17
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 know the cream of the crop recommendation for the Sam is the 38mm Compass Barlow Pass. What about others that are a little less? How about the Continental's that Riv sells. They call them "basketball" tires. Anyone with first hand knowledge on the Conti's?

Steven Sweedler

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Apr 6, 2017, 8:35:32 PM4/6/17
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I just finished a tour of 1200  m. with the Conti 700 x 42 tires, rolled nice but seemed attracted to the wires that tires  seem to find especially if pumped up  to 40 lbs or more. less flats when pressure was lower, they are still on my bike and no flats since I have been home with maybe another 300 m. but would not buy them again. My gf had no flats with Schwalbe Marathon Supreme.  Steve
Plymouth, NH
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 know the cream of the crop recommendation for the Sam is the 38mm Compass Barlow Pass. What about others that are a little less? How about the Continental's that Riv sells. They call them "basketball" tires. Anyone with first hand knowledge on the Conti's?

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Conway Bennett

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:06:33 PM4/6/17
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My favorites were my rock 'n roads. They didn't last though. I now have schwalbe mondials 700x1.75s which I really like.

GAJett

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:10:14 PM4/6/17
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Can't speak to the Conti's but I recently replaced my worn-out original Schwalbe Marathon 650Bx38 with Compass Loup-Loup Pass extra-lights of the same size.  The difference is phenomenal!  Seat of the pants and watching average speeds over several common routes indicates the Compass tires are 1-1/2 to 2 mph faster when run at similar pressures.  They're also roll a lot more smoothly.  Yeah they're spendy but totally worth it.  I couldn't be happier. 
Cheers!
(Probably only about 500 miles so far, but no flats vs. 1 flat per 1,000 miles on the Schwalbe's.)

drew

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Apr 7, 2017, 12:00:15 AM4/7/17
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I have the conti speed whatevers 700x42. They replaced marathon supremes in 700X50. I like them ok. No flats yet, quicker than the marathons felt, not amazingly plush, decent on dirt.
Once I wear them out, I want to try the cazaderos.

Jay in Tel Aviv

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Apr 7, 2017, 1:15:48 AM4/7/17
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I'm running 38 Victoria Hypers available here for $17 plus shipping.

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/vittoria-voyager-hyper-folding-tyre

I did get a flat yesterday, from a staple, but it was the first in several months of gnarly urban commuting. I run Supremes in the winter. These are much more fun.

Jay

Jay in Tel Aviv

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Apr 7, 2017, 1:17:33 AM4/7/17
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I checked again. I have the 35s, which are plenty wide for me. The 38s are $20.

Garth

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Apr 7, 2017, 5:37:04 AM4/7/17
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Yes, the Vittoria Hypers are pretty decent for that price. I ran 2 sets of the 38/40 so far down to the casing☺ I run them at low pressures, 40-45 or so. Not the highest of volume tires though on A719 rims at least. If you could use a 35mm tires I would recommend the Forte Metro tire from Performance Bike , yes, the big chains store. Don't laugh, these are very nice riding tires, I prefer them to the Vittoria but they don't come in larger 700c size.

Jeff Lesperance

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Apr 7, 2017, 7:04:38 AM4/7/17
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I like the Resist Nomad tires as a wallet friendly option. I used them on an LHT owned several years ago, and now use them on my commuter. 


Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the Vittoria Hypers are pretty decent for that price. I ran 2 sets of the 38/40 so far down to the casing☺ I run them at low pressures, 40-45 or so. Not the highest of volume tires though on A719 rims at least. If you could use a 35mm tires I would recommend the Forte Metro tire from Performance Bike , yes, the big chains store. Don't laugh, these are very nice riding tires, I prefer them to the Vittoria but they don't come in larger 700c size.
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Captain Conway Bennett

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Apr 7, 2017, 9:37:22 AM4/7/17
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I went on a "budget" 700x47 tire buying spree last summer.  What I came up with was the resist nomads and vee rubber 12s are great.  Actually the vee tires I was sent were the grv model which I can't actually find info on but appear to be the same tread as the 12s.  The resists are sort of like budgety compasses and the vees are similar to a wtb riddler.    

Fair winds,

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Chris Birkenmaier

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Apr 7, 2017, 9:51:42 AM4/7/17
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I have Compass Gran Bois 42mm Hetres in cream on mine.  The bike is orange and with the cream tires they look stunning (in my opinion).  The ride is great too.  I'm sold on Compass and other supple tires to the point I don't want to ride anything else.


On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
I went on a "budget" 700x47 tire buying spree last summer.  What I came up with was the resist nomads and vee rubber 12s are great.  Actually the vee tires I was sent were the grv model which I can't actually find info on but appear to be the same tread as the 12s.  The resists are sort of like budgety compasses and the vees are similar to a wtb riddler.    

Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett

On Apr 7, 2017, at 6:04 AM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.le...@gmail.com> wrote:

I like the Resist Nomad tires as a wallet friendly option. I used them on an LHT owned several years ago, and now use them on my commuter. 


Jeff
Silver Spring, MD
On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the Vittoria Hypers are pretty decent for that price. I ran 2 sets of the 38/40 so far down to the casing☺ I run them at low pressures, 40-45 or so. Not the highest of volume tires though on A719 rims at least. If you could use a 35mm tires I would recommend the Forte Metro tire from Performance Bike , yes, the big chains store. Don't laugh, these are very nice riding tires, I prefer them to the Vittoria but they don't come in larger 700c size.

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Jon Dukeman,central Colorado

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Apr 7, 2017, 10:14:11 AM4/7/17
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I'm on my 3rd year with Schwalbe 700c-38 Little Bens.
They have served me well on pavement and gravel.
Jon


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Garth

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Apr 7, 2017, 10:35:04 AM4/7/17
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Vee Tires is a bit of mystery, since there are 2 such companies. Vee Tire and Vee Rubber .  I have looked at both sites and left confused !




On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
I went on a "budget" 700x47 tire buying spree last summer.  What I came up with was the resist nomads and vee rubber 12s are great.  Actually the vee tires I was sent were the grv model which I can't actually find info on but appear to be the same tread as the 12s.  The resists are sort of like budgety compasses and the vees are similar to a wtb riddler.    

Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett

On Apr 7, 2017, at 6:04 AM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.le...@gmail.com> wrote:

I like the Resist Nomad tires as a wallet friendly option. I used them on an LHT owned several years ago, and now use them on my commuter. 


Jeff
Silver Spring, MD
On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the Vittoria Hypers are pretty decent for that price. I ran 2 sets of the 38/40 so far down to the casing☺ I run them at low pressures, 40-45 or so. Not the highest of volume tires though on A719 rims at least. If you could use a 35mm tires I would recommend the Forte Metro tire from Performance Bike , yes, the big chains store. Don't laugh, these are very nice riding tires, I prefer them to the Vittoria but they don't come in larger 700c size.

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Patrick Moore

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Apr 7, 2017, 10:43:56 AM4/7/17
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I've been very pleased with how well Compass extralights hold up off road, in firmish dirt (even light sand) and gravel. With modern sealants for thorns, I feel more confident with my Elk Passes on dirt than I used to with beefier road tires like Kojaks. I agree, I'm happy to spend top dollar for extralight tires, especially if they hold up as well as my Compasses seem to do.

Speaking of very light tires: I had to replace a Furious Fred on the Matthews recently due to a large cut*, and looked up the mileage on the original pair. 2,404 to date, and the rear still has at least 1/2 height little knoblets left! PDG for a 700C, 51 mm tire (33 mm outer width rims) that weighs an honest 360 grams and that sees at least 1/3 of its miles on pavement, often with a load!

* Perhaps a gravel cut, or cut by some similar large and sharp object, on the edge of the tread. A nubbin of Orange Seal and dirt held air in place for several months until I upped the pressure to 32 psi, and the higher pressure blew out a geyser of OS. Fenders are good!

EasyRider

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Apr 7, 2017, 11:19:54 AM4/7/17
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I have 700x38 Panaracer Paselas on my Rosco, in the non-tourguard version. A new pair go for about $50. I have the same tire in 32 on an RBT and had 1.75s on a Trek 950 before swapping out to Big Bens out of boredom. Most of my 14 mile daily roundtrip commute  is on bike paths and city streets, and I can't remember the last time I got a flat with plain old Paselas. If I were going to ride a lot on road shoulders I'd probably look to a Schwalbe Marathon or the like. Besides the Barlow Pass, I'm interested in the 700x40 Clement Xplors.

Patrick Moore

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Apr 7, 2017, 11:25:35 AM4/7/17
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I commuted across town for several years on 559 X 32 mm non-Tourguard Paselas. They ride well for the price, but FWIW, I found them rather delicate (sidewalls started to decay after a year or so in the sun; I once scraped an inch of tread off the rear casing with an unplanned skid), and very liable to goathead -- and other types of -- flats. I found Kojaks to roll as well and to be far less liable to punctures and damage.

Perhaps the 700C X 38s have a thicker tread? The 559 X 32 (1.25") models weighed only 240 grams on a mail scale.

EasyRider

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Apr 7, 2017, 3:38:12 PM4/7/17
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I think the Kojaks look have a really cool moto look, especially the fat ones. When I bore of the 26x2.15 Big Bens on my commuter, I'll either get Kojaks or some ThunderBurts in 26", if there are any left.

For the OP, I imagine the Little Big Ben 700x40s are as indestructible as the 26 inchers. I've put almost 2,000 miles on mine since August with no noticeable wear or flats, and they roll well.

Ed Carolipio

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Apr 7, 2017, 3:52:03 PM4/7/17
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I put a set of Panaracer Col de la Vie 650bx38mm on my sister's bike. Comfortable, not too heavy, easy on and off the rim, tan sidewalls for a retro look, and a set goes for less than $50 shipped. She did get a flat on one ride when a piece of glass got stuck between the treads then worked itself through the casing, but tough to blame the tire for that. I still consider it a good value tire in that size.

Broccoli Cog

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Apr 7, 2017, 5:55:47 PM4/7/17
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Easy, I am riding 40mm Clement X'plor USH MSO on my Sam now in the 120 Tpi version. They are a really good tire. The reason I was interested in the Compass is because I wanted a smooth or a herringbone style tread. In other words more road like since that is where I am mainly riding these days. I can recommend the Clement's without hesitation. 


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