Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

[Jack Barnes]

I've been riding on VO's Rando bars, but have decided that they have too much forward reach. Switched over to a Mark's Bar that I have in the parts bin, and I'm finding that I like the reduced reach but miss the upswept flats. Would the Noodle give me some of this effect? Hard to tell from the pics.

I don't need it to be as swoopy as the rando bars. Nitto's rando bar looks like a decent option, but too narrow — I'm looking for a 46 or 48cm width.

thanks,
Jack

[Keith Muller]

Jack,

Noodle are flat accross the top

Keith

[Jack B]

Bummer. Well thanks for the info Keith. 

I just now made an adjustment that might help: I tilted the Mark's bar up so that the flats (behind the hoods) are a better resting spot. Rode around the block and they feel good. 

The ramps are steep now, maybe too steep, but I don't ride there much. Kinda new to drop bars so still trying to get it dialed in. 

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[Lungimsam]

You can angle your bars so the ramps are flat, then rotate your brake levers up the ramps to get them closer reach.

[Tim Gavin]

Nitto B135 Randonneur bars have shorter reach (105 mm) than the B132 and/or Grand Cru Randonneur bars (120 mm).  

Not as short-reach as the Mark's bar, but the B135 does have nice upswept flats and a nice amount of flare through the drops.  I use the B135 on two bikes.

Tim

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

You can angle your bars so the ramps are flat, then rotate your brake levers up the ramps to get them closer reach.

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[Lungimsam]

By "on the flats", are you meaning "tops", "ramps", or "drops"?

[Patrick Moore]

+ 1 for the B 135 -- shortish reach and very comfortable upsweep. The Noodle sweeps back but not up; reach (I take it that Riv means effective reach) is 95 mm. So if you can stomach 1 more cm of reach, the B 135 may well be your boy. I see that Ben's Cycles has a 45 cm width model.

So, yes, the Noodle has a shorter reach but a deeper drop.

Me, I prefer the shallower 120 mm drop to the Noodle's (not Noodles'!) 140 mm -- IIRC, the Mark's is very like the Nitto 185 which has 135 mm drop.

BTW, you can indeed adjust the tilt of a bar to make your ramps longer or to bring the brake levers up and closer, but IMO that is cheating; choose a bar that fits and lets you get the levers where you like them. 

And, for another lister's question: per conventional terminology, flat or top: section of a drop bar from clamp to forward bend. Ramp: flat part from bend to hood -- some bars don't have much of a ramp, like the Mark's. Hook or "drop": inside portion of forward curve from hood to ends of bar. 

Patrick Moore, riding one bicycle handlebar (tm, singular) at a time in ABQ, NM

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[Jack B]

Yeah the B135 sounds like it would be a good fit, except for the limited width. 45cm in itself is almost wide enough, but that's measured c to c at the bar ends, right? That style of bar is going to be much narrower at the flats, I'd think. 

Sounds like I had my terminology wrong earlier when I was talking about the ramps. I meant the drops.  Right now I've tilted the Mark's bar up slightly (cheating, like Patrick says). This makes the drops really steep, like 35deg or more. Kinda funky. 

Thanks for all the replies. 

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[Patrick Moore]

http://www.benscycle.com/p-1264-nitto-b135-randonneur-touring-handlebar.aspx

I think they use the conventional measurement: c-c at the middle of the hooks. (Terminology quibble -- but it's all for clarity in communication, right? "Bar ends" usually refers to the clamp on additions on straight mountain bike bars. "Ends of bar" gets you what you want.)

You might consider a shorter stem. When I installed the Noodle on my erstwhile Ram, I used a 9 cm stem instead of the 8 cm I use with longer reach bars and got much of the same comfort. Me, I'd choose my bar for comfort, then choose the stem I need.

Bar ends, on ends of bar:

[Patrick Moore]

I may be wrong about Ben's measurement of the B 135's width; at least one other person thinks so. Below from an old post on another list:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/surlylht/erxgOPf3zME

But I'm pretty darn sure that the 42 mm b 135 I used on the Fargo was not very narrow at the hoods.

[Joe Bernard]

You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to them from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake hoods, but they felt MUCH narrower. I think Noodles are hard to beat for comfort in a drop bar (disclaimer: I don't use drops at all anymore).

[Jack B]

Okay Joe, then do you have a 46 Noodle you'd like to sell me? ;-)

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to them from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake hoods, but they felt MUCH narrower. I think Noodles are hard to beat for comfort in a drop bar (disclaimer: I don't use drops at all anymore).

[Joe Bernard]

Sorry, Jack, those Noodles left on a Bridgestone RB-1 many years ago. I don't ride far/hard enough to make road bikes with drops work for me. I'm not really a cyclist, I'm more of a "ride arounder" ;-)

[Ron Mc]

Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside

giving them a very natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross brakes)

[Paul G]

This is true. From the stem clamp to the beginning of the curve to the ramps, the Noodle bars actually slope downward slightly (like a Moustach bar, but not nearly as much) which results in the ramps being slightly lower for any given stem height. The amount is slight, but noticeable and I like how if feels when riding on the tops. It makes for a nice wrist angle there.


On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 5:11:17 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside giving them a very natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross brakes)

[Jack B]

Thanks for all the replies. I tried out some noodles at the LBS and realized that they sweep backward slightly, which is probably what I liked about the rando bars. Another list member is selling me a used noodle and ill give it a whirl. 

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