FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

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alan lavine

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Sep 19, 2016, 4:50:03 PM9/19/16
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Hi All,
After much soul searching and hesitation, I'm putting this up for sale.  It's serial # RB 038 that I bought used several years ago and just recently converted to 650b.  Less than 150 miles since conversion.  Here's the build:

HB-44 cm short reach short drop, off of Surly LHT.  Grand Cru perforated leather bar tape.  Tektro TRP levers + interupters.
Silver shifters on Shimano pods, friction.
Silver long reach brakes w. salmon kool-stop pads.
VO Grand Cru Diagonale 650 wheels, 36 H with leather hub shiners.
SKS fenders
Sugino PX cranks 175 mm w. TA rings, 42/30
VP 50/50 pedals
FD-ultegra, RD-deore
7 spd cassette 13-34T
ultegra headset
Nitto technomic stem 8 cm
Nitto Mark's rack w. Nigel Smythe trunk bag
Nigel Smythe Tweed saddle bag
VO Grand Cru long setback seat post
Ergon SR-3 L saddle
BB-I was told it was Phil Wood but have never pulled it.

Beausage status: a few minor marks/scratches, nothing major. No rust. Decal on left side of seat tube is completely gone and slight damage to the top of the right side seat tube decal.  Like this when I bought it.

Would prefer cash sale with local pick-up, if possible.  Will throw in a used Albatross bar if you can do this.  Please let me know if any questions, thanks.

Alan
NYC
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Daniel Jackson

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Sep 19, 2016, 9:09:40 PM9/19/16
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What tires are on there now?

Alan Lavine

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Sep 19, 2016, 9:13:47 PM9/19/16
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Sorry, forgot that! Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42.
Alan
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alan lavine

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Sep 20, 2016, 11:38:40 AM9/20/16
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Also,if you think the price is not right, let me know and we'll talk.


On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42.
Alan
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Calvin Rocchio

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Sep 21, 2016, 12:43:36 AM9/21/16
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How has the BB drop been on this? Have pedal strikes been an issue? 


On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 8:38:40 AM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
Also,if you think the price is not right, let me know and we'll talk.

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42.
Alan
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Daniel Jackson <daniel.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What tires are on there now?
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Alan LaVine

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Sep 21, 2016, 6:13:48 AM9/21/16
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Hi Calvin,
I have to admit I never pay attention to BB drop, as I don't pedal through turns. Never had a pedal strike.
Best,
Alan

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alan lavine

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Sep 21, 2016, 6:57:52 AM9/21/16
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Price bump: $1650-

Alan
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Lungimsam

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Sep 21, 2016, 8:54:05 AM9/21/16
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I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see if I can keep the same bb height at 650b.

Steve Palincsar

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Sep 21, 2016, 8:58:28 AM9/21/16
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On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote:
> I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see if I can keep the same bb height at 650b.
>

This is very unlikely. A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same
outside diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable
as to whether a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame.

Alan Lavine

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Sep 21, 2016, 9:10:09 AM9/21/16
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A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does. I can measure the BB height if it helps.
Alan

Steve Palincsar

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Sep 21, 2016, 9:26:19 AM9/21/16
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On 09/21/2016 09:10 AM, Alan Lavine wrote:
> A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does. I can measure the BB height if it helps.

What color is yours?

Alan Lavine

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Sep 21, 2016, 9:32:46 AM9/21/16
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Orange/white

allenmichael

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Sep 21, 2016, 11:59:06 AM9/21/16
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I have a 58 persimmon (orange)/white rambouillet with 650b, 42 red Hetres that fit well. I haven't tried a fender yet.

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Lungimsam

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Sep 21, 2016, 2:40:04 PM9/21/16
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Here is ttoshi's:
https://flic.kr/p/dsz6t7

Lungimsam

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Sep 21, 2016, 2:40:55 PM9/21/16
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I think itsa 54cm frame

Steve Palincsar

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Sep 21, 2016, 2:52:17 PM9/21/16
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I think the blue and subsequent had more clearance than the original
orange and cream ones. In any event, even switching to 42mm Hetres will
result in additional bottom bracket drop, because the Rambouillet was
originally designed with 28mm tires in mind, and 650Bx42 are ~ 5 mm
smaller in diameter.


On 09/21/2016 02:38 PM, Lungimsam wrote:
> ttoshi from the forum has a 52 blue that takes a hetre with fenders. I'll have to see if mine will one day.
>

alan lavine

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Sep 21, 2016, 3:31:40 PM9/21/16
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Just to be clear, y'all are talking about BB height.  BB drop is how far below a line connecting the 2 hubs the center of the BB is (syntax?)  This doesn't change with different tires.

Having said that, is there no interest at all in buying my Ram ?!?  Have to make room for my new Yuba Mundo grandkids limousine !

Thanks, Alan

Lungimsam

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Sep 21, 2016, 9:11:49 PM9/21/16
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Right,
Bb drop and bb height are two different things. I am talking about bb height as I measured from floor to bottom of bb shell, though it is traditionally measured from floor to bb center

Philip Williamson

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Sep 21, 2016, 9:24:25 PM9/21/16
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I'd call a 2.5mm difference in BB height functionally the same. Would you tell someone they shouldn't run 172.5mm cranks on a Rivendell?

Philip
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Alan Lavine

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Sep 22, 2016, 8:08:27 AM9/22/16
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BB height on the Ram with compass 42 tires = 26 cm.
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